EPTI am pretty new to LoL (like 2 months). I always wondered why do ADs + supports always go bottom and not top? What is the logic behind this?
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CreationSoul
Romania231 Posts
I am pretty new to LoL (like 2 months). I always wondered why do ADs + supports always go bottom and not top? What is the logic behind this? | ||
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mcimba42
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dooraven
Australia2820 Posts
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eagle
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AsnSensation
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Shiv.
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On May 19 2012 03:40 Cloud9157 wrote: Yes, because being honest about the quality of a game definitely relates to being mad. If I'm top and smash my lane all game, only to see that bot is 0/10 combined with no CS, jungle has been AFK farming and causing mid+bot to bitch at him, and then we get destroyed in team fights, there is no point in saying "gg" because it simply wasn't. Saying nothing at all is the best thing to do in that situation. But in certain scenarios, a "gg wp" is definitely called for, because it was just that. I know I'm late to the party, but: this guy is the bane of my LoL existence. Get your facts straight before commenting on shit you have no clue about. I'm mad. On May 19 2012 17:01 CreationSoul wrote: Hello there, I am pretty new to LoL (like 2 months). I always wondered why do ADs + supports always go bottom and not top? What is the logic behind this? People want an AD in their team because they need them to siege towers mid game. People want their AD paired with a support because unless they get snowballed, these kind of lanes usually win against Bruiser/support lanes. People want this specific combination bottom because in case of a dragon fight, you want as many people as possible down there helping to contest/secure it. That being said, I wonder why CLG, who don't value dragon as much, don't experiment more with AD+Support top. | ||
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Roffles
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On May 19 2012 17:12 dooraven wrote: Someone needs to update the TL calendar. OGN LOL finals are happenning now, not in 2 hours. own3d.tv/ognlol twitch.tv/ognlol Thanks sir. Toggled it live. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On May 19 2012 17:51 Shiv. wrote: I know I'm late to the party, but: this guy is the bane of my LoL existence. Get your facts straight before commenting on shit you have no clue about. I'm mad. People want an AD in their team because they need them to siege towers mid game. People want their AD paired with a support because unless they get snowballed, these kind of lanes usually win against Bruiser/support lanes. People want this specific combination bottom because in case of a dragon fight, you want as many people as possible down there helping to contest/secure it. That being said, I wonder why CLG, who don't value dragon as much, don't experiment more with AD+Support top. You must not be watching them. Just a few (im on d3 schedule, might be 5-6) hours ago they went with ad support top and karthus bottom | ||
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Alaric
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Shiv.
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On May 19 2012 18:48 OutlaW- wrote: You must not be watching them. Just a few (im on d3 schedule, might be 5-6) hours ago they went with ad support top and karthus bottom Haven't been able to follow the scene as actively as I would like since IPL4 due to university obligations and since finding a place for two in this city is a bitch. Thanks for mentioning it, though. | ||
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
On May 19 2012 17:01 CreationSoul wrote: Hello there, I am pretty new to LoL (like 2 months). I always wondered why do ADs + supports always go bottom and not top? What is the logic behind this? Mages need blue buff so they go mid with easy access to it. Mages also tend to be better at roaming. Your double lane goes near dragon to help control it. AD Carry gets the double lane because he doesn't need exp as much as other roles (just gold). Also safer against ganks thanks to the support. Although it always annoys me when the AD still believes bottom lane belongs to him at like 30 mins. You need to keep up the baron pressure, let a less essential person clear bot and give the AD mid farm. | ||
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Abenson
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NoobieOne
United States1183 Posts
On May 19 2012 17:51 Shiv. wrote: People want an AD in their team because they need them to siege towers mid game. People want their AD paired with a support because unless they get snowballed, these kind of lanes usually win against Bruiser/support lanes. People want this specific combination bottom because in case of a dragon fight, you want as many people as possible down there helping to contest/secure it. That being said, I wonder why CLG, who don't value dragon as much, don't experiment more with AD+Support top. Don't know why people assume they don't care about dragon. Their theory is if the other team is stronger don't contest dragon. That is a big if and I have been seeing in scrims them going for dragon as soon as 6 mins in and then contesting it again when the other team went for it at 13 mins because they believed they could win the fight (and did). | ||
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Shiv.
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On May 19 2012 23:19 NoobieOne wrote: Don't know why people assume they don't care about dragon. Their theory is if the other team is stronger don't contest dragon. That is a big if and I have been seeing in scrims them going for dragon as soon as 6 mins in and then contesting it again when the other team went for it at 13 mins because they believed they could win the fight (and did). Where did I say they did not care for dragon? They don't value it as highly as other teams do, that's all I was saying. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On May 19 2012 17:51 Shiv. wrote: I know I'm late to the party, but: this guy is the bane of my LoL existence. Get your facts straight before commenting on shit you have no clue about. I'm mad. People want an AD in their team because they need them to siege towers mid game. People want their AD paired with a support because unless they get snowballed, these kind of lanes usually win against Bruiser/support lanes. People want this specific combination bottom because in case of a dragon fight, you want as many people as possible down there helping to contest/secure it. That being said, I wonder why CLG, who don't value dragon as much, don't experiment more with AD+Support top. So when did the gaming community come to a consensus on what the term "gg" means? Don't act like your interpretation of it is law. Oh and dat meme. So cute. | ||
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United States3216 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On May 20 2012 00:17 Shiv. wrote: Where did I say they did not care for dragon? They don't value it as highly as other teams do, that's all I was saying. They do value it but if they're not in the proper position they're not going to be in a poor position just to contest dragon. A lost dragon fight + a lost dragon is just throwing away the game. A lost dragon while you're pushing 2 or so lanes + getting a tower isn't as huge of a loss, and actually makes the gold not that far off from one another. On May 20 2012 02:31 0123456789 wrote: Watch me on rainmans stream. I'm going to carry him, and kobe24's sry little buttockses. "This graves is like 'I'm going to carry your ass bro, carry your ass bro....l0l0l yeah right"  | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
I managed to win the lane and help win the game in the end because I got two ganks from our Naut (and warwick is really good with ganks  ), and then going to gank mid and stuff. I just wanted to know, what the hell do you have to do against kennen top? Last hitting was insanely difficult, trading was almost impossible, and without ganks, I would have completely lost top. What am I supposed to do? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On May 20 2012 02:59 Dark_Chill wrote: I was playing warwick in low elo vs a kennen top, and I had no idea what to do. I gave up first blood in a slightly close match (I could have escaped if I was a bit faster with a flash), and then I was forced to play really passive, where ken could still manage to kill me with his ult+harrassment. I couldn't really do anything because he could AA me and be out of range of my Q. I started with boots+3pots btw. I managed to win the lane and help win the game in the end because I got two ganks from our Naut (and warwick is really good with ganks ), and then going to gank mid and stuff. I just wanted to know, what the hell do you have to do against kennen top? Last hitting was insanely difficult, trading was almost impossible, and without ganks, I would have completely lost top. What am I supposed to do?Sounds like what you did is what you're supposed to do in that matchup, minus giving up FB. You can't really get aggressive against ken since you'll never actually do damage unless he's bad. You facilitate ganks w/ your ult and you rely on your ability in the late game to be tanky. While I wouldn't advocate it because I haven't played the matchup enough (as ww), I know some people who go chalice against AP champs top so you can spam Q to mitigate some harass and the MR doesn't hurt either. Kennen, in general, simply lanes extremely well. Whether they max Q or W, they can do solid harass and e provides an easy escape. As long as you don't feed him it's unlikely he should be able to burst you down, so you just sustain in lane after your first or second back. | ||
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