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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
May 19 2012 18:10 GMT
#3901
On May 20 2012 02:59 Dark_Chill wrote:
I was playing warwick in low elo vs a kennen top, and I had no idea what to do. I gave up first blood in a slightly close match (I could have escaped if I was a bit faster with a flash), and then I was forced to play really passive, where ken could still manage to kill me with his ult+harrassment. I couldn't really do anything because he could AA me and be out of range of my Q. I started with boots+3pots btw.
I managed to win the lane and help win the game in the end because I got two ganks from our Naut (and warwick is really good with ganks ), and then going to gank mid and stuff. I just wanted to know, what the hell do you have to do against kennen top? Last hitting was insanely difficult, trading was almost impossible, and without ganks, I would have completely lost top. What am I supposed to do?


you don't do anything except try to farm as best you can and call for ganks. There are a few champs that go top that ppl with practically melee-only kits simply cannot deal with (assuming the other guy plays even remotely closely to correctly). If you're lucky, and with some early jungle pressure, you can kinda force a farm-lane, but that's typically the extent of what you can do. Kennen is one of those kinds of champs.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 18:13:15
May 19 2012 18:12 GMT
#3902
On May 20 2012 02:43 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 00:17 Shiv. wrote:
On May 19 2012 23:19 NoobieOne wrote:
On May 19 2012 17:51 Shiv. wrote:
People want an AD in their team because they need them to siege towers mid game.
People want their AD paired with a support because unless they get snowballed, these kind of lanes usually win against Bruiser/support lanes.
People want this specific combination bottom because in case of a dragon fight, you want as many people as possible down there helping to contest/secure it.

That being said, I wonder why CLG, who don't value dragon as much, don't experiment more with AD+Support top.


Don't know why people assume they don't care about dragon. Their theory is if the other team is stronger don't contest dragon. That is a big if and I have been seeing in scrims them going for dragon as soon as 6 mins in and then contesting it again when the other team went for it at 13 mins because they believed they could win the fight (and did).

Where did I say they did not care for dragon?
They don't value it as highly as other teams do, that's all I was saying.


They do value it but if they're not in the proper position they're not going to be in a poor position just to contest dragon. A lost dragon fight + a lost dragon is just throwing away the game. A lost dragon while you're pushing 2 or so lanes + getting a tower isn't as huge of a loss, and actually makes the gold not that far off from one another.

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 02:31 0123456789 wrote:
Watch me on rainmans stream. I'm going to carry him, and kobe24's sry little buttockses.


"This graves is like 'I'm going to carry your ass bro, carry your ass bro....l0l0l yeah right"



QQQQQ I got carried. FML!!!! How will I ever show my face again.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 19 2012 18:35 GMT
#3903
ww gets rolled by kennen top. The kennen has to play pretty aggressively to get anything out of his advantage though and then... Well, you see what happened.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
May 19 2012 18:50 GMT
#3904
I am #9 Cass.
that is all.
washed
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 19 2012 19:05 GMT
#3905
On May 20 2012 03:12 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 02:43 BlackPaladin wrote:
On May 20 2012 00:17 Shiv. wrote:
On May 19 2012 23:19 NoobieOne wrote:
On May 19 2012 17:51 Shiv. wrote:
People want an AD in their team because they need them to siege towers mid game.
People want their AD paired with a support because unless they get snowballed, these kind of lanes usually win against Bruiser/support lanes.
People want this specific combination bottom because in case of a dragon fight, you want as many people as possible down there helping to contest/secure it.

That being said, I wonder why CLG, who don't value dragon as much, don't experiment more with AD+Support top.


Don't know why people assume they don't care about dragon. Their theory is if the other team is stronger don't contest dragon. That is a big if and I have been seeing in scrims them going for dragon as soon as 6 mins in and then contesting it again when the other team went for it at 13 mins because they believed they could win the fight (and did).

Where did I say they did not care for dragon?
They don't value it as highly as other teams do, that's all I was saying.


They do value it but if they're not in the proper position they're not going to be in a poor position just to contest dragon. A lost dragon fight + a lost dragon is just throwing away the game. A lost dragon while you're pushing 2 or so lanes + getting a tower isn't as huge of a loss, and actually makes the gold not that far off from one another.

On May 20 2012 02:31 0123456789 wrote:
Watch me on rainmans stream. I'm going to carry him, and kobe24's sry little buttockses.


"This graves is like 'I'm going to carry your ass bro, carry your ass bro....l0l0l yeah right"



QQQQQ I got carried. FML!!!! How will I ever show my face again.


Looks like it's time to post a giant retiring post saying how we're all fucking loser nerds that are wasting our lives and how you're better than us and are going off to Harvard to be a god.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 19 2012 19:08 GMT
#3906
basically since he entered harvard numbers is a super saiyan.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 19 2012 19:12 GMT
#3907
Oh god, Soniv now taking away Smash's elo! D:
Going to lose another TLer soon maybe from such a mortifying experience.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 19:20:37
May 19 2012 19:14 GMT
#3908
I'll still go to Harvard. Just a little bit later. I had to get some stuff sorted out.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 19 2012 19:19 GMT
#3909
Why do people keep mentioning that Harvard thingy? Link to post?
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 19 2012 19:23 GMT
#3910
On May 20 2012 04:19 MooMooMugi wrote:
Why do people keep mentioning that Harvard thingy? Link to post?

I'd guess it's been edited out. If not then he'll probably edit it right now. Someone go find it though, im lazy.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
May 19 2012 19:24 GMT
#3911
How can it be edited out. There were like 20 quotes on it to make sure it stayed.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
May 19 2012 19:24 GMT
#3912
On May 20 2012 04:19 MooMooMugi wrote:
Why do people keep mentioning that Harvard thingy? Link to post?


Just in case we get a Numbers edit, here it is reproduced.

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 24 2011 12:21 0123456789 wrote:
Yes, I quit this game. Takes too much time writing something serious about my life during my time when I played games and after I stopped playing games, so I'll just summarize it. Basically, playing this game was a waste of time, and I'm glad I got out of playing games. Unless you try really hard to succeed at this game, give it 100%, and are willing to die to be successful and have the mentality to give it 100% every single day, it's pointless.

LoL is not fun. It's really stressful. I don' get why anybody would play this game for fun. Fun is going out with your friends and girls. Tits are fun. Socializing is fun. LoL is not fun. LoL is just a huge ball of QQers, ragers, and feeders 90% of the time. Being stressed is not fun. Only thing good about LoL is that it helps you deal with fags in real life and stress because you're under constant crappy situations with people online, and you learn to become chill and not let it bother you.

LoL is a waste of time. Spending even one hour every day playing LoL is stupid. Every week you could spend 7 hours learning golf. You get success 100%, it's actually a useful skill in life to have, and you spend time with good people. Playing LoL gets you stressed out, and does not get you good at anything. The reason a lot of people who play a lot of games, I will explain later.

LoL destroys your life. When you play a lot of games and don't talk to people, you become worse at socializing. When you become worse at socializing, you don't want to socialize because you kind of become this loser who sucks at socializing, so you go back to games. Then games become your pleasure because it occupies a lot of your time and thoughts and deceives you into thinking you are doing something with your life. It's like an addiction, and soon you can't stop. Your online reputation, your elo, and your online friends are worth more than tits or friends.

Some people might say LoL is fun, or online friends are better than real life friends, or stuff like that, or LoL is my hobby, I like putting my time into LoL. zzzzz, this is taking too long to write. I'll just say whatever, LoL played moderately for fun is cool if it's not an addiction. High 5.

Good things about games aka scII not LoL yet. If you're good, you get to live in a fucking baller house like EG and get paid. If you give up your life to play and give it 100%, you will get good, like at least top 10 good and live your dream of being a star and playing games for a living. This is legit gaming, you are accomplishing something in your life, and posting results. Casual LoL does none of these things.

Anyways, zzzz taking too long, in conclusion I like not playing games. If you don't play games for one day, then try to play, it gets really boring. Quitting games is good. Tits(or dicks, for you uni) and friends are more fun than games. Real life is less stressful, and takes less effort to get good at life, which is like socializing and studying. Take the lessons you learn from LoL, like learning how to try hard and be successful or just 2K elo successful, and use them in real life. You will get many boobies and friends. The end. I'm going to go to Harvard next year. Studying is easier than games so 100 every class. Socializing easier than trying to get #1 ladder, tits>games. The end. I only regret not giving it my 100% playing LoL before quitting.


(Source)

Follow up here

It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 19:40:00
May 19 2012 19:39 GMT
#3913
I'm pretty excited for Dig going to Korea. I know L0CUST has a lot of things he wants his team to practice but they haven't had the time. A gaming house will help them become the best team ever :D
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
May 19 2012 19:43 GMT
#3914
On May 20 2012 04:39 HazMat wrote:
I'm pretty excited for Dig going to Korea. I know L0CUST has a lot of things he wants his team to practice but they haven't had the time. A gaming house will help them become the best team ever :D


Dominate needs to improve the most of all of them imo.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 19:53:22
May 19 2012 19:50 GMT
#3915
did saint quit clg?
https://twitter.com/#!/CLGSaintvicious

crumbzz is leaving curse as well
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2133081
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 19 2012 20:00 GMT
#3916
On May 20 2012 04:50 Frolossus wrote:
did saint quit clg?
https://twitter.com/#!/CLGSaintvicious

crumbzz is leaving curse as well
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2133081


Crumbzz leaving curse seems to be confirmed, not sure if Saintvicious leaving CLG for Curse is true though.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
May 19 2012 20:04 GMT
#3917
On May 20 2012 05:00 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 04:50 Frolossus wrote:
did saint quit clg?
https://twitter.com/#!/CLGSaintvicious

crumbzz is leaving curse as well
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2133081


Crumbzz leaving curse seems to be confirmed, not sure if Saintvicious leaving CLG for Curse is true though.

its official
http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/tuck-esports-inquirer/20427-saintvicious-joining-curse-crumbzz-to-dignitas
saint joins crs
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 19 2012 20:05 GMT
#3918
Got new respect for Numbers, he laid it down on the line the blunt truth about LoL, but can I ask you what made you get back into this game if you decided to quit during September?
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 19 2012 20:05 GMT
#3919
On May 20 2012 04:43 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 04:39 HazMat wrote:
I'm pretty excited for Dig going to Korea. I know L0CUST has a lot of things he wants his team to practice but they haven't had the time. A gaming house will help them become the best team ever :D


Dominate needs to improve the most of all of them imo.

Why do people make statements like this.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
May 19 2012 20:06 GMT
#3920
On May 20 2012 05:04 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:00 Nos- wrote:
On May 20 2012 04:50 Frolossus wrote:
did saint quit clg?
https://twitter.com/#!/CLGSaintvicious

crumbzz is leaving curse as well
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2133081


Crumbzz leaving curse seems to be confirmed, not sure if Saintvicious leaving CLG for Curse is true though.

its official
http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/tuck-esports-inquirer/20427-saintvicious-joining-curse-crumbzz-to-dignitas
saint joins crs

Voyboy to CLG o_O
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
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