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phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
May 19 2012 03:41 GMT
#3861
It's his first debut on the PBE. They have time to nerf him, and if they don't nerf him enough there's always the next two patches to nerf him (see: Lulu last patch and current Lulu pbe changes).

I mean really, he's on PBE and you're already talking about a hotfix. It's not like he's going to faceroll teams as tanky DPS while at the same time being sleeper OP and never getting nerfed.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
May 19 2012 03:52 GMT
#3862
well yeah, but I think this design is probably one of the strongest they've done. Almost reminds me of trnydamere with a true damage nuke instead of a cant kill me never die
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
May 19 2012 04:00 GMT
#3863
having no sustain or escape whatsoever are pretty big negatives for a top laner aren't they?
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
May 19 2012 04:10 GMT
#3864
I dunno, if you have big enough damage numbers, it can work. Why run when you can get a double kill when someone ganks.

Honestly the passive numbers atm are ridiculous considering that it stacks 5 times.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 04:24:13
May 19 2012 04:12 GMT
#3865
Few more notes on Darius:

His ult has a .75 bonus AD scaling. The damage bonus does consider this scaling, which means his Ult's nuke is 680+1.5 Bonus AD scaling.

His passive is roughly (10+ 1.25/level + .4/AD) damage over 5 seconds. This stacks up to five times.

His W applies only one stack and does NOT multiply with crit (like Sheen).

Abilities and such do not consume stacks. That bleed effect really picks up those kills.


If anyone wants to hop on the PBE, give me a leash and test his clear speed (I have a full set of all pertinent runes) that'd be nice.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 19 2012 04:15 GMT
#3866
^ Garen

Watching CLG scrim is hilarious because of how little they listen to each other compared to how much they talk.
Hotshot: I'm going to level W so that we do the most dmg in this exchange, ok?
10 seconds later
Doublelift: *gives fb* Ugh I didn't know you leveled W.
Jiji: Of course he's going to level W if you're doing that.
Hotshot: Didn't I say that? I don't know if I had my PTT on.

I lol'd.


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anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 04:18:24
May 19 2012 04:17 GMT
#3867
On May 19 2012 13:15 HazMat wrote:
^ Garen

Watching CLG scrim is hilarious because of how little they listen to each other compared to how much they talk.
Hotshot: I'm going to level W so that we do the most dmg in this exchange, ok?
10 seconds later
Doublelift: *gives fb* Ugh I didn't know you leveled W.
Jiji: Of course he's going to level W if you're doing that.
Hotshot: Didn't I say that? I don't know if I had my PTT on.

I lol'd.



I just wonder how well they could do if they had the teamwork of clg.eu or smthing.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
May 19 2012 04:20 GMT
#3868
Running a weird thing where they have hotshot on janna and chauster doing solo karth bot lol.
Never Knows Best.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 19 2012 04:27 GMT
#3869
On May 19 2012 13:15 HazMat wrote:
^ Garen

Watching CLG scrim is hilarious because of how little they listen to each other compared to how much they talk.
Hotshot: I'm going to level W so that we do the most dmg in this exchange, ok?
10 seconds later
Doublelift: *gives fb* Ugh I didn't know you leveled W.
Jiji: Of course he's going to level W if you're doing that.
Hotshot: Didn't I say that? I don't know if I had my PTT on.

I lol'd.




Why listen when you can not, amiright?
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
May 19 2012 04:28 GMT
#3870
LOL Chauster on Karthus vs that Corki
Never Knows Best.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 19 2012 04:30 GMT
#3871
Did TSM beat CLG ? How did it go?
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
May 19 2012 04:35 GMT
#3872
On May 19 2012 13:28 Slaughter wrote:
LOL Chauster on Karthus vs that Corki

This game is hilarious
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 19 2012 04:46 GMT
#3873
Patch Preview up:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/darius-patch-preview-gameplay-changes?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 04:54:37
May 19 2012 04:50 GMT
#3874
What on earth was CLG doing that game? >.>

The fun thing about Darius's Ult is that you can get the full damage potential (which is higher than Garen's) at higher healths, which means you can actually see half their health bar dissapear. And if you don't get to see that, then you get another chance on the next person on the chopping block.


EDIT: Above, I loved the Ezreal clips they used during their discussion of free-week champion change.
deskscaress
Profile Joined May 2011
United States399 Posts
May 19 2012 05:04 GMT
#3875
On May 19 2012 13:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Patch Preview up:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/darius-patch-preview-gameplay-changes?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


These are all excellent changes and I approve
would you ever miss it?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 19 2012 05:09 GMT
#3876
On May 19 2012 14:04 deskscaress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 13:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Patch Preview up:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/darius-patch-preview-gameplay-changes?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


These are all visual changes and I feel somewhat disinterested



Athene's looks cool though, but I don't really play any champs where Chalice is even a good item.

Anyway, been playing Hecarim in jungle a lot lately. He actually feels pretty good to me, maybe not ban/FP status jungler, but he's pretty fast in there (will be faster if the 50% -> 66% damage to minions on Q goes through), has good ganks if you do them smart, and can have pretty sick burst, disruption, and survivability if you build Trinity->Tanky. I was really upset with my purchase at first, but he's really not all that bad once you get used to him.
It's your boy Guzma!
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 19 2012 05:12 GMT
#3877
Update on ALL KENNEN:
Level 7. Finally figured out how to play him. Only 1 negative K/D in my match history, which was a 13/15/15 game with 2 Ragequits on my team . There are so many leavers this low, holy shit. But not all is despair! Check it out, some people down here are actually manner! I've won 4 of my last five. Its easy to win lanes once I realized to just use w to trade through minions (proc W, attack enemy mid, W). Energy lets me just spam it like a dick. I'm considering leveling R>W>Q>E instead of R>Q>W>E. Thoughts?
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 19 2012 05:12 GMT
#3878
Everyone mid is going to build chalice now XD
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 05:36:20
May 19 2012 05:30 GMT
#3879
On May 19 2012 14:12 iGrok wrote:
Update on ALL KENNEN:
Level 7. Finally figured out how to play him. Only 1 negative K/D in my match history, which was a 13/15/15 game with 2 Ragequits on my team . There are so many leavers this low, holy shit. But not all is despair! Check it out, some people down here are actually manner! I've won 4 of my last five. Its easy to win lanes once I realized to just use w to trade through minions (proc W, attack enemy mid, W). Energy lets me just spam it like a dick. I'm considering leveling R>W>Q>E instead of R>Q>W>E. Thoughts?

w max crushes melees and a lot of short ranged heroes. if you play him toplane you should be maxing w almost every time, which is why it hurts me to watch dyrus and hotshot playing kennen and maxing q every fucking game. im like wtf you doinggggg zzz. i only see wings maxing w and crushing his lane every time. probably because he played with ego ignaxio so much.

edit: this should go in the kennen thread imo... im just gonna move it there
GANDHISAUCE
Mystogun
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States392 Posts
May 19 2012 06:03 GMT
#3880
On May 19 2012 14:09 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 14:04 deskscaress wrote:
On May 19 2012 13:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Patch Preview up:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/darius-patch-preview-gameplay-changes?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


These are all visual changes and I feel somewhat disinterested



Athene's looks cool though, but I don't really play any champs where Chalice is even a good item.

Anyway, been playing Hecarim in jungle a lot lately. He actually feels pretty good to me, maybe not ban/FP status jungler, but he's pretty fast in there (will be faster if the 50% -> 66% damage to minions on Q goes through), has good ganks if you do them smart, and can have pretty sick burst, disruption, and survivability if you build Trinity->Tanky. I was really upset with my purchase at first, but he's really not all that bad once you get used to him.


I've been playing Hecarim a lot too, and I find I only ever build any part of Triforce if I've got a substantial lead. I'm really content with double gp10 into tanking, the resists from hex/chain vest make you really tough to kill in team fights with a couple levels into W.
"What I'm sayin' is that there are known knowns and there are known unknowns, but there's also unknown unknowns, things that we don't know we don't know." | SC2: NoiSe.730 | LoL: Galladiator
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