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Remember guys, this is the general discussion thread. Keep whine/QQ posts in the appropriate QQ memorial thread! Thanks!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 16 2012 13:19 GMT
#6321
On April 16 2012 22:13 miicah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 21:42 Two_DoWn wrote:
On April 16 2012 20:46 justiceknight wrote:
is there a way to know when will the buff pop out again after its being taken? I mean specific timing not just by looking at minimap

blue buff
red buff
dragon
baron
and neutral creeps

Wherever the enemy starts: 7:15 ish for the buff camp respawn, with the second buff being ~ a minute after.


I think you mean 7:55 (actually they could never kill it in 0 seconds, so 2nd blue/red is usually at around 8:00)


As a mid player, I always look at 7:10 to make moves for blue (either enemy or our own). This is, obviously, barring any strange lvl 1 situations or my jungler starting red.
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jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
April 16 2012 13:21 GMT
#6322
as a jungler nothing pisses me off more then mid being supper slow to come get blue.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 16 2012 13:25 GMT
#6323
Well, there are times when my jungler needs to wait a few seconds. It is really important to deal with the current minion wave. It depends on who the mid opponent is. If it's someone who can push very fast, it is important to clear the wave or counter push. This not only alleviates pressure on the tower, but it makes the other mid have to do something so that you can safely get your blue.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
April 16 2012 13:29 GMT
#6324
The timing of when the second blue goes down has to do with how tight the jungler is playing. In my games it will spawn around 7:10 and die around 7:30.
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SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
April 16 2012 13:35 GMT
#6325
It depends on how good the pull is, if they smite, and the damage the champion does, it has nothing to do with how well the jungler is playing.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 16 2012 13:40 GMT
#6326
On April 16 2012 22:35 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
It depends on how good the pull is, if they smite, and the damage the champion does, it has nothing to do with how well the jungler is playing.


Bad jungler smite little lizard, die to blue.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 16 2012 13:55 GMT
#6327
On April 16 2012 22:40 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 22:35 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
It depends on how good the pull is, if they smite, and the damage the champion does, it has nothing to do with how well the jungler is playing.


Bad jungler smite little lizard, die to blue.

Better jungle gets hard pull at blue, smites red.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
April 16 2012 14:06 GMT
#6328
I dont allways jungle, but when I do I disconnect while killing blue and die at lvl1
KCCO!
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
April 16 2012 14:07 GMT
#6329
On April 16 2012 22:21 jadoth wrote:
as a jungler nothing pisses me off more then mid being supper slow to come get blue.


A lot of times it's probably unnecessary for the mid to be slow in grabbing the buff, but as a mid player I can tell you that sometimes those extra few seconds it takes us are worth it. Losing an entire wave to a tower can be devastating in an even lane.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 16 2012 14:07 GMT
#6330
On April 16 2012 23:06 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I dont allways jungle, but when I do I disconnect while killing blue and die at lvl1

Pffff. Thats the secret. I died to red twice last weekend. Won both games.

Hell, the first game the only death I had was to red. Red>entire enemy team.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 16 2012 14:44 GMT
#6331
On April 16 2012 23:06 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I dont allways jungle, but when I do I disconnect while killing blue and die at lvl1


On a related note I had a game last week where I DCed twice at the very last second giving blue to mid, resulting in my champ AAing and taking the buff. Twice. Mid was Swain and mad.

In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
April 16 2012 14:47 GMT
#6332
lol. if i'm playing as jungler and they don't come and take it when i ping it and there is nothing in their lane i just say fuck them and take it lol
BW -> League -> CSGO
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 16 2012 14:59 GMT
#6333
I don't want to start up that whole debate on where blue buff "should" go, but I hate when jungles aren't patient enough to wait 3 seconds.

*COUGHCOUGH* ^ <3
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Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
April 16 2012 15:01 GMT
#6334
On April 16 2012 23:07 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 23:06 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I dont allways jungle, but when I do I disconnect while killing blue and die at lvl1

Pffff. Thats the secret. I died to red twice last weekend. Won both games.

Hell, the first game the only death I had was to red. Red>entire enemy team.


Thats nothing. I saw a turret get a Triple kill last night.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
April 16 2012 15:04 GMT
#6335
I usually do it to make a point though to say I'm not going to wait around all day lol. I mean I'll wait around for a bit but some people don't respond at all to it when you type it, ping it and wait till it gets low. Besides, I only have like two junglers (naut, ali) who aren't the worst people to have it on ^_^
BW -> League -> CSGO
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 16 2012 15:05 GMT
#6336
On April 16 2012 23:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I don't want to start up that whole debate on where blue buff "should" go, but I hate when jungles aren't patient enough to wait 3 seconds.

*COUGHCOUGH* ^ <3

and I hate when mages use all their burst up front and then sit there for the next 5 seconds autoattacking for the last 500 HP that I can't attack during for fear of procing wriggle's.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 16 2012 15:07 GMT
#6337
On April 17 2012 00:05 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 23:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I don't want to start up that whole debate on where blue buff "should" go, but I hate when jungles aren't patient enough to wait 3 seconds.

*COUGHCOUGH* ^ <3

and I hate when mages use all their burst up front and then sit there for the next 5 seconds autoattacking for the last 500 HP that I can't attack during for fear of procing wriggle's.


After being yelled at by Monte several times for this, I've gotten out of the habit.
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anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
April 16 2012 15:13 GMT
#6338
On April 16 2012 23:06 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I dont allways jungle, but when I do I disconnect while killing blue and die at lvl1

This always happen to me whenever I play a jungler for the first time T_T
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
April 16 2012 15:13 GMT
#6339
I've stopped caring about my elo and ranked, and just started playing a bunch of new champions in normals. So far I've found a few champions I like (Tryndamere, Olaf, Vayne, MF) and a few champions I don't (Nautilus, Pantheon).
Starting now I am going to try to play at least 1 game with every champion in normals (I would do it in ranked, but people there are too pissy, don't feel like dealing with 12 year old rage).

Should I do this in normals blind or normals draft?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 15:29:37
April 16 2012 15:27 GMT
#6340
Epik Gamer is still the only team to have all their full-time junglers die to minions. (Dan Dihn, Dyurs, and now they picked up Unstoppable from v8 lol)

On April 17 2012 00:05 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 23:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I don't want to start up that whole debate on where blue buff "should" go, but I hate when jungles aren't patient enough to wait 3 seconds.

*COUGHCOUGH* ^ <3

and I hate when mages use all their burst up front and then sit there for the next 5 seconds autoattacking for the last 500 HP that I can't attack during for fear of procing wriggle's.

It's also a good habit to save the burst until the very end to prevent the enemy from getting in a random long-range steal.

On April 17 2012 00:13 57 Corvette wrote:
I've stopped caring about my elo and ranked, and just started playing a bunch of new champions in normals. So far I've found a few champions I like (Tryndamere, Olaf, Vayne, MF) and a few champions I don't (Nautilus, Pantheon).
Starting now I am going to try to play at least 1 game with every champion in normals (I would do it in ranked, but people there are too pissy, don't feel like dealing with 12 year old rage).

Should I do this in normals blind or normals draft?

Since it's not for serious, it shouldn't matter although in normals draft you might end up with more premades who might force you to do something else. And things might get banned. If it's just for testing, just go blind mode and instalock or something.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
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