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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 06 2012 16:34 GMT
#1761
the first character I stuck to was amumu. I would lane until I got my philosopher's stone (level 4ish) and then jungle the rest of the game because people didn't jungle back then.
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Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 16:45:38
January 06 2012 16:41 GMT
#1762
I guess I'm the only one who started with Ashe (back when AD's were commonly mid). I like ranged chars, she was in the tutorial, and she was cheap (and ALWAYS free).

I played until level ~27 and then quit around this time last year. Came back in the summer and the game was SO different.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 06 2012 16:46 GMT
#1763
My very first LoL game was played on MF. She was on free rotation and I wanted to play a ranged character.

The first champ I stuck with a long time was Warwick. I think like 2/3 of my games from like lvl 10 - 30 was with Warwick. I learned how to jungle with him, but he progressively got phased out as I bought Nocturne and Udyr and I enjoyed playing them more (especially Nocturne).
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
January 06 2012 16:53 GMT
#1764
My first game was with Singed. I had nooo idea of how the builds are, the playstyle etc. It was a co-op though. Then I left the game because I was pissed and confused lol.
Then at lvl 6, I bought Ezreal and have stuck to him since now.
End my suffering
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 06 2012 17:13 GMT
#1765
On January 07 2012 01:41 Sandster wrote:
I guess I'm the only one who started with Ashe (back when AD's were commonly mid). I like ranged chars, she was in the tutorial, and she was cheap (and ALWAYS free).

I played until level ~27 and then quit around this time last year. Came back in the summer and the game was SO different.

Friend of mine is like lvl28 or so(he's too busy to play these days) and 98% of his games have been Ashe games.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 06 2012 17:18 GMT
#1766
You know, I find Shaco as annoying as anyone else, but I don't understand this new first pick/ban status he has. A lot of streamers hype him like he's carrying from the jungle, when I've never really had a problem with him aside from Deceive ganks when I'm out of position or face-checking bushes. Basically, he's just a champ that really punishes bad plays, and that makes him a pubstomper, and a good but not great jungler aside in my eyes.
It's your boy Guzma!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17262 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 17:21:56
January 06 2012 17:21 GMT
#1767
There's no question there; you already answered it: he completely rapes in solo queue.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 06 2012 17:23 GMT
#1768
On January 07 2012 02:21 Craton wrote:
There's no question there; you already answered it: he completely rapes in solo queue.

Except when he's on your team and is 0/5 and lvl3 @ the 10min mark~~
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 06 2012 17:23 GMT
#1769
On January 07 2012 02:18 Requizen wrote:
You know, I find Shaco as annoying as anyone else, but I don't understand this new first pick/ban status he has. A lot of streamers hype him like he's carrying from the jungle, when I've never really had a problem with him aside from Deceive ganks when I'm out of position or face-checking bushes. Basically, he's just a champ that really punishes bad plays, and that makes him a pubstomper, and a good but not great jungler aside in my eyes.

Shaco has the most options in the game as a jungle. His deceive makes him the strongest gank in the game, and boxes+deceive make him an outstanding counterjungle threat. Hell, you can even grab a warmogs and a ghostblade and play as though you were nocturne, trundle, or skarner.

But the biggest thing is the fact that he forces you to change the way you play the game. You cant extend in lane against shaco. You just cant. Both teams know this, so they play around that advantage and use that to control the map.

Basically, at low elo shaco is a pubstomper, at high elo he is a tactical force.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 17:29:38
January 06 2012 17:28 GMT
#1770
On January 07 2012 02:23 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 02:18 Requizen wrote:
You know, I find Shaco as annoying as anyone else, but I don't understand this new first pick/ban status he has. A lot of streamers hype him like he's carrying from the jungle, when I've never really had a problem with him aside from Deceive ganks when I'm out of position or face-checking bushes. Basically, he's just a champ that really punishes bad plays, and that makes him a pubstomper, and a good but not great jungler aside in my eyes.

Shaco has the most options in the game as a jungle. His deceive makes him the strongest gank in the game, and boxes+deceive make him an outstanding counterjungle threat. Hell, you can even grab a warmogs and a ghostblade and play as though you were nocturne, trundle, or skarner.

But the biggest thing is the fact that he forces you to change the way you play the game. You cant extend in lane against shaco. You just cant. Both teams know this, so they play around that advantage and use that to control the map.

Basically, at low elo shaco is a pubstomper, at high elo he is a tactical force.

Twitch has stronger ganks, deceive can be seen, twitch can come from literally everywhere. Unless you're mid and opening boots pink ward, which already puts you behind in lane compared to the other laner. Effective gank while sitting at the fucking fountain.
Shaco is also one of the best splitpushers in the game.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
January 06 2012 17:31 GMT
#1771
On January 07 2012 02:23 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 02:21 Craton wrote:
There's no question there; you already answered it: he completely rapes in solo queue.

Except when he's on your team and is 0/5 and lvl3 @ the 10min mark~~


Honestly I perma ban him for this reason. As much as I hate to play against him, I cannot stand the bad Shacos that I'm blessed with in games.

That being said I find Twitch just as scary, if not more so in solo queue.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
January 06 2012 17:36 GMT
#1772
First champ I really stuck on was probably Kog for funsies(he was awful at release, but AP kog 2fun), and Kayle because right after her remake she was probably the closest thing this game has had(since I've been playing it that is) to a DotA rice rice hypercarry; then they had to go and nerf her like 6 times and remake her again =[
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 06 2012 17:37 GMT
#1773
On January 07 2012 02:28 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 02:23 Two_DoWn wrote:
On January 07 2012 02:18 Requizen wrote:
You know, I find Shaco as annoying as anyone else, but I don't understand this new first pick/ban status he has. A lot of streamers hype him like he's carrying from the jungle, when I've never really had a problem with him aside from Deceive ganks when I'm out of position or face-checking bushes. Basically, he's just a champ that really punishes bad plays, and that makes him a pubstomper, and a good but not great jungler aside in my eyes.

Shaco has the most options in the game as a jungle. His deceive makes him the strongest gank in the game, and boxes+deceive make him an outstanding counterjungle threat. Hell, you can even grab a warmogs and a ghostblade and play as though you were nocturne, trundle, or skarner.

But the biggest thing is the fact that he forces you to change the way you play the game. You cant extend in lane against shaco. You just cant. Both teams know this, so they play around that advantage and use that to control the map.

Basically, at low elo shaco is a pubstomper, at high elo he is a tactical force.

Twitch has stronger ganks, deceive can be seen, twitch can come from literally everywhere. Unless you're mid and opening boots pink ward, which already puts you behind in lane compared to the other laner. Effective gank while sitting at the fucking fountain.
Shaco is also one of the best splitpushers in the game.

I'd agree. Twitch is way scarier for me, he's absurd to get away from and can carry way harder later into the game if your team is too derp to spread out.
It's your boy Guzma!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 06 2012 17:39 GMT
#1774
Shaco's a lot faster and I really disagree about Twitch ganks being stronger, Shaco deals like a billion damage and you'll never run away from him, he also can gank you even if you are almost hugging your tower, just leaving its range partially makes you need to burn a flash: I really don't think that twitch can compete with that, and Shaco also has far better counterjungling(one of the best in the game)

Though I still think jungle twitch and jungle evelynn are underplayed.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 17:44:50
January 06 2012 17:41 GMT
#1775
On January 06 2012 21:44 RogerX wrote:
So guys im quite interested in the good ol' days kind of question for the community.

Who was your first main champion you stuck onto (Pretty much saying; your first champion your playing a lot) You could still be playing that character idk, doesn't matter, any why?

Mine was Ryze.
Lightning balls of death, always tank never die.
Now I don't play him anymore.


Corki. I used to start out playing Cho, WW and Trist, but Corki was the champ I stuck with, first. All those skillshots, strong throughout the game and his animations/sounds are cool as fuck.

What made me stick to him was a replay of Locodoco where he played him like a boss. Like, the whole I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHATS GOING ON ILL CARRY THESE FUCKERS - attitude. Basicly ignoring all the whining and suddenly showing up with 20 minutes of full items and being like "sup?" just to rape teamfights with uber-positioning.

<3 Corki.


Also <3 guys like Loco or Smash who have that certain "fuck off, I'm good enough to do this"-attitude with the skill to back it up. TL fanboyism ftw.


Edit: I completely stopped playing Corki after the Q nerf. Did anyone keep playing him and how does he do nowadays compared to others? I kinda started picking Trist over him all day.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 06 2012 17:43 GMT
#1776
On January 07 2012 02:39 Shikyo wrote:
Shaco's a lot faster and I really disagree about Twitch ganks being stronger, Shaco deals like a billion damage and you'll never run away from him, he also can gank you even if you are almost hugging your tower, just leaving its range partially makes you need to burn a flash: I really don't think that twitch can compete with that, and Shaco also has far better counterjungling(one of the best in the game)

Though I still think jungle twitch and jungle evelynn are underplayed.

Jungle eve is underplayed because she clears like shit.
Shaco can't just walk into your lane and sit right on top of you, many times you can even see him deceive and you just run back. Twitch can herpaderp from behind you and you die, or you waste flash and the second you leave your turret you die.
Or if you flash and you're low enough, expunge and you die.
Playing against a jungletwitch who starts red and being mid or top/bot(depends on what side you are, the lane closest to his red) is the most frustrating thing in the game.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 06 2012 17:44 GMT
#1777
shaco has always been exactly like that, its just another popularity wave, happens quite often in this game.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
January 06 2012 17:44 GMT
#1778
Shaco is bs because he can gank you just outside turret and he camps lanes better than anyone. Real pain in the ass to play top lane when theres a shaco on the other team, you just get camped 24/7
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
January 06 2012 17:48 GMT
#1779
all the korean play shaco and koreans #1 that is why shaco so good
:)
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
January 06 2012 17:49 GMT
#1780
On January 07 2012 02:39 Shikyo wrote:
Shaco's a lot faster and I really disagree about Twitch ganks being stronger, Shaco deals like a billion damage and you'll never run away from him, he also can gank you even if you are almost hugging your tower, just leaving its range partially makes you need to burn a flash: I really don't think that twitch can compete with that, and Shaco also has far better counterjungling(one of the best in the game)

Though I still think jungle twitch and jungle evelynn are underplayed.


I think twitch relatively hard to jungle, especially compared to more conventional picks and most people won't put in the time in custom games to learn how to kite the monsters properly. Although, a Twitch with smite and no lane to keep an eye on has got to be the most terrifying thing in the game.

Shaco is scary. But most Shaco's are awful.

As for the first champ I stuck with, for me it was Rammus. This whole game completely changed for me when I got the Moose. There was a period while I was leveling up that I went on like a 25 game win streak with Rammus. Still my favorite champ to play.
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