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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On January 03 2012 07:28 JackDino wrote: I dunno if malz counters her really, he can push but Ahri should never get ulted in pool. trust me. Ahri cant even touch you | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
I actually laughed at this lol | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 03 2012 07:23 JackDino wrote: Not really wanting to bring in elo into this because mine is pretty meh aswell but swains @ 1400 are exactly there because they can't hit their skillshots. I know plenty of high elo swain players who have no problem landing their W, and you can always Q first for an easy W. Veigar dark matter has a much longer delay. Brand's W is smaller so it should be harder to land than swain W. Then its very strange that Brands have no problems landing Ws and brands are all bad, I guess it just must be so that Brands are just better players | ||
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
On January 03 2012 06:46 Shikyo wrote: dotdotdot There's different kinds of delayed AoE skillshots. There's Veigars W that I don't get hit by. There's Brands W that I do get hit by. Swain is one of the easy-to-avoid ones. They're not all the same. Also, I think it IS a great argument if it indeed is possible to reaction-dodge instead of having to mindgame dodge. For instance, you don't base your Veigar laning around landing Dark Matters without a stun, now do you? Why? Because it can be reaction-dodged. So it all goes back to the same conclusion - when it comes to skillshots in a matchup it's all about player skill. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On January 03 2012 07:41 Shikyo wrote: Then its very strange that Brands have no problems landing Ws and brands are all bad, I guess it just must be so that Brands are just better players Brand's W is deceptively large. It's easy to land it on innocent targets because of this weird perspective... | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On January 03 2012 07:46 mr_tolkien wrote: Brand's W is deceptively large. It's easy to land it on innocent targets because of this weird perspective... Brand W is smaller than swain W, this is a fact. | ||
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Blyf
Denmark408 Posts
On January 03 2012 03:41 JackDino wrote: You are basically saying that supports autolose lane if they go for HoG over kindlegem(the reason you take flat over scaling runes is to help your laning). If you go armour/lvl instead of flat armour against someone like pant you're going to get raped so incredibly hard. Think about what you say before you criticize others about posting stupid logic when you don't even know the logic behind gp10 on supports, it's surely not end game gold efficiency. If you're going HoG and the enemy support has kindlegem they have to be incredibly good to win the lane with 10% more cdr and 50 less health. People don't go GP10 so they have more gold lategame, supports go GP10 because the items provide usefull stats and give them some gold at the same time, they don't get any other gold. The thing is however, going kindlegem over HoG gets you a faster reverie which is incredible for teamfights. Going for a ruby crystal over HoG is great because it gets you a way faster aegis which is awesome for teamfights. HoG is a decent item depending on if you need it in lane and when you get it. Kage's pick is a terrible item for support since they barely use the AP, it's just as bad as avarice for supports imo. Compaing doran's to gp10 is just dumb because that support with a doran isn't going to crush the support with the philo or the HoG, while the latter gets gold. If you plan to build one of the items gp10 builds into and you can get away with it, always get it asap. Ah JackDino, the logical reasoning you fail to apply never ceases to amaze me. I almost want to dissect your post and point you to your flawed attempts at reasoning, but in the words of dear OutLaw, a reasonable guy who got trashed back into lurkerdom: Why do I even try? Maybe you could fight the urge to utter an opinion on just about every topic without actually considering the arguments at hand. Try to understand the argument, instead of just trying to win the argument for the sake of being right. User was warned for this post | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On January 03 2012 07:54 Blyf wrote: Ah JackDino, the logical reasoning you fail to apply never ceases to amaze me. I almost want to dissect your post and point you to your flawed attempts at reasoning, but in the words of dear OutLaw, a reasonable guy who got trashed back into lurkerdom: Why do I even try? Maybe you could fight the urge to utter an opinion on just about every topic without actually considering the arguments at hand. Try to understand the argument, instead of just trying to win the argument for the sake of being right. I'm really considering reporting you because if there's one thing that I hate, it's people who use ad hominem then saying some stupid shit like "why do I even try" or other cop-out. I'm glad Outlaw is gone. He barely ever posted and half of his posts were trash that fell back on "why do I try" whenever people try to debate with him. If it's too hard for you to put your thoughts into words or to accept that you may be wrong then stay the fuck away. If someone's logic is bad, then explain why it's bad. Don't just make a pointless post and cop out while insulting people. If you really think it's an argument you can't win because of w/e reason then just don't fuckin post. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
eh ryuu ur obviously full of shit.. ? I said why do i even try once, and i only post here when i want to.. why even say that half of my posts were trash when i made like 6? i remember joining one discussion with someone who just didnt understand what i was telling him get your facts straight before insulting someone User was warned for this post | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On January 03 2012 08:01 OutlaW- wrote: ''lurkerdom'' lol eh ryuu ur obviously full of shit.. ? I said why do i even try once, and i only post here when i want to.. why even say that half of my posts were trash when i made like 6? i remember joining one discussion with someone who just didnt understand what i was telling him get your facts straight before insulting someone Exactly my point. You made like 6 and 3 of those were you insulting people. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On January 03 2012 08:03 Ryuu314 wrote: Exactly my point. You made like 6 and 3 of those were you insulting people. no? i was trying to dicuss something at first, then i gave up i dont think i ever insulted someone, just you because you base what you say on something that didnt happen | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On January 03 2012 08:08 koreasilver wrote: You're all retards. Last few posts are so sad, i don't want this thread to be like this. I miss the times when most of the talk was done by smash, utah, ezpz, shake and all the rest  I just played a 5man where we decided to counterpick kassadin after 4. pick so we all switched roles (i was supposed to jarv top but went to jungle since our: ahri went top and vayne went bot and 1 of us wanted to grab cait for mid) Iit was all k, graves/sona lane lost tower after my first gank, kass was behind 30-80 in cs but then it turned out that their kennen was farmed as hell and he rolled us midgame :/ What did we just learn the hard way: When counterpicking don't tunnel vision - always think about all the picks, not just 1. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + i like him, has damage heal stun buff debuff You obviously dont watch enough streams.. Regi realizes his mistakes. Most people just watch a streamer once or twice for maybe 15 minutes and stereotype him, I guess some people get bad streaks or dont find what they are looking for and never watch again, then say things like this on forums. I started out by loving Chaox and Xpecial and hating Reginald and TOO, now I can say it's completely the opposite for me. Chaox and Xpecial seemed nice and chillax at first, but after a while you realized that deeper down they are not nice and their manner is just them keeping a cool head. Reginald and TOO,on the other hand, dont keep their calm, which is why they rage. But deep down I feel that they are nicer than Chaox and Xpecial. This may seem a bit vague but I just prefer r and too now, and when I want to watch a truly nice, cool headed guy I watch bob. and TOO, now I can say it's completely the opposite for me. Chaox and Xpecial seemed nice and chillax at first, but after a while you realized that deeper down they are not nice and their manner is just them keeping a cool head. Reginald and TOO,on the other hand, dont keep their calm, which is why they rage. But deep down I feel that they are nicer than Chaox and Xpecial. This may seem a bit vague but I just prefer r and too now, and when I want to watch a truly nice, cool headed guy I watch bob. you are taking words out of my mouth. I never said those things must be tied together, I just said that in this case they are. Please refrain from using bad arguments if you wish to lead an intelligent discussion with me. why do i even try dont let people tell you a hero is bad, if the champ is fun for you to play then stick with it and improve your game instead, just like ud improve your macro before doing advanced strategies in sc2 anyway, i actually think taric is really strong Would people be interested in watch me try to climb out of my elo hell on eune? (1600 and rising) That's one of her strengths. She has low range, but when she gets in and is not CCd, she is hard to stop. Just pick cait and dominate her with range, and when she jumps you, run (or E). Graves vs Vayne might be a bit graves favored, I still believe it comes down more to your skill and the skill of your support. I've won countless vayne vs graves lanes but i also remember losing some Though whenever i see they have graves I just pick caitlyn and win anyway Now, I've been considering buying viktor... Is he viable enough to be played? It feels to me(mostly from videos) that he's more of a control character who just doesn't deal enough burst tt | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On January 03 2012 08:27 mr_tolkien wrote: This has to be the worst page in the whole LoL subforum. Sometimes I'm ashamed of playing this game when I see some of the players. What do you expect when a bunch of 1200-1400 players argue about game concepts and the 1800 players are rarely seen. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On January 03 2012 08:24 UniversalSnip wrote: well outlaw, "dont let people tell you a hero is bad" sigh.. im asking if its worthwile buying and playing him.. alaric, do you feel that hes good even with that? what is he good at, is his laning good? maybe hes just a utility ap? | ||
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