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TwilightStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States649 Posts
December 13 2011 15:02 GMT
#221
On December 13 2011 23:48 Craton wrote:
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On December 13 2011 23:28 TwilightStar wrote:
Is this serious..? Why do they insist on nerfing kassadin again and again..? This is insane....

Banned in like 95% of ranked games for a reason.

It vexes me that people have trouble with Kassadin, It really does. However, if these small nerfs continue, maybe people will magically believe he's less viable and stop banning my favorite champ =(

(5)Twilight Star.scx --------- AdmiralHoth: There was one week when I didn't shave for a month.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
December 13 2011 15:04 GMT
#222
On December 13 2011 18:03 JackDino wrote:
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On December 13 2011 17:39 Cloud9157 wrote:
On December 13 2011 17:34 JackDino wrote:
Kass going to sidelanes to gank vs an ad=lol, Oh kassa went to gank? byebye 2 turrets.


So I hear theres a 5th player on your team called a Jungler that can hold turret while hes gone.

Yo I hear there's a 5th player on your team called a Jungler who can countergank a weak kass.


At pre-6 maybe.

Otherwise have fun trying to get near him.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
December 13 2011 15:05 GMT
#223
On December 13 2011 23:23 freelander wrote:
but.. you can't turn armor seals into wards/oracles

That's only relevant if you plan on turning ZERO runes/gold into surivability and open 6 wards and build all wards all game.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
December 13 2011 15:25 GMT
#224
Is it just me, or is Ryze nearly un-gankable?
I have never seen a successful gank on him (although I don't watch a lot of streams, so it is mostly games at 1200 elo that I don't see it)
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
warscythes
Profile Joined December 2011
365 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 15:28:17
December 13 2011 15:27 GMT
#225
On December 14 2011 00:25 57 Corvette wrote:
Is it just me, or is Ryze nearly un-gankable?
I have never seen a successful gank on him (although I don't watch a lot of streams, so it is mostly games at 1200 elo that I don't see it)


Definitely doable, Ryze doesn't get tanky until he gets his items and his lane can be beaten. Harass a bit and let your jungle do his work.

I mean if you really want to screw with Ryze play jungle Jarvan, you can EQ out of his root.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
December 13 2011 15:29 GMT
#226
On December 14 2011 00:27 warscythes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 00:25 57 Corvette wrote:
Is it just me, or is Ryze nearly un-gankable?
I have never seen a successful gank on him (although I don't watch a lot of streams, so it is mostly games at 1200 elo that I don't see it)


Definitely doable, Ryze doesn't get tanky until he gets his items and his lane can be beaten. Harass a bit and let your jungle do his work.

I mean if you really want to screw with Ryze play jungle Jarvan, you can EQ out of his root.


Hm, It just seemed that he Ws the jungler and runs away, didn't know about the Jarvan thing though.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
December 13 2011 15:31 GMT
#227
I find it pretty funny they keep screwing around the with mr and armour numbers on xins ult back and forth and hoping it'll fix something.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 15:34:05
December 13 2011 15:33 GMT
#228
On December 14 2011 00:29 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 00:27 warscythes wrote:
On December 14 2011 00:25 57 Corvette wrote:
Is it just me, or is Ryze nearly un-gankable?
I have never seen a successful gank on him (although I don't watch a lot of streams, so it is mostly games at 1200 elo that I don't see it)


Definitely doable, Ryze doesn't get tanky until he gets his items and his lane can be beaten. Harass a bit and let your jungle do his work.

I mean if you really want to screw with Ryze play jungle Jarvan, you can EQ out of his root.


Hm, It just seemed that he Ws the jungler and runs away, didn't know about the Jarvan thing though.

When you're setting up a gank for your jungler, it's usually good to go in for a trade and then have your jungler come in once he's used his spells. It's a lot better than waiting for your jungler to initiate especially if they're not really strong gankers.

edit: this applies to all champions not just Ryze
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 15:35:35
December 13 2011 15:34 GMT
#229
Veigar feels really good now. He seems to have a hoppy walking animation now too. Also, has anyone noticed since red hp nerf, that it really, really freaking sucks to lane against Zilean mid? What the heck are you supposed to do? >_< I had to buy like 25 pots to just be able to farm... I guess be Morgana? >_>
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
December 13 2011 15:37 GMT
#230
On December 14 2011 00:31 Slayer91 wrote:
I find it pretty funny they keep screwing around the with mr and armour numbers on xins ult back and forth and hoping it'll fix something.


Give his ultimate a Cleanse or CC protection for 2 seconds.
FADC
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17242 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 15:45:05
December 13 2011 15:44 GMT
#231
That's exactly what they shouldn't do. His 1v1 and sticking ability are the reasons he keeps getting nerfed.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
December 13 2011 15:45 GMT
#232
On December 14 2011 00:29 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 00:27 warscythes wrote:
On December 14 2011 00:25 57 Corvette wrote:
Is it just me, or is Ryze nearly un-gankable?
I have never seen a successful gank on him (although I don't watch a lot of streams, so it is mostly games at 1200 elo that I don't see it)


Definitely doable, Ryze doesn't get tanky until he gets his items and his lane can be beaten. Harass a bit and let your jungle do his work.

I mean if you really want to screw with Ryze play jungle Jarvan, you can EQ out of his root.


Hm, It just seemed that he Ws the jungler and runs away, didn't know about the Jarvan thing though.


The day I got EQ'd by Jarvan after rooting him was the day I stopped playing Ryze. It was a J4 Leona lane in a normal, and I root Jarvan at level 2, and the next thing I remember was respawning while stratching my head asking wtf just happend.
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
December 13 2011 15:45 GMT
#233
new skins aren't the most exciting...

Would have been nice if that LeBlanc skin was actually Lux
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 15:54:05
December 13 2011 15:51 GMT
#234
On December 14 2011 00:37 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 00:31 Slayer91 wrote:
I find it pretty funny they keep screwing around the with mr and armour numbers on xins ult back and forth and hoping it'll fix something.


Give his ultimate a Cleanse or CC protection for 2 seconds.


Had a game where my team fed the enemy Xin up the wahzoo, and at the very end when I suppressed him as Malz, his attack speed was so fast, he popped me up before the suppression had even taken effect and then killed me on top of my team/turrets. Giving him a cleanse or CC immunity is how to completely and utterly break his kit even more. -_-

Buy a frakking QSS like (almost) everyone else has to. Or, I don't know... run cleanse!?!?
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
December 13 2011 15:54 GMT
#235
How about a Ninetails Karma duo lane? Karma maxes shield and the wire for some crazy dashing and taunting action at level 6.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 13 2011 15:54 GMT
#236
On December 14 2011 00:31 Slayer91 wrote:
I find it pretty funny they keep screwing around the with mr and armour numbers on xins ult back and forth and hoping it'll fix something.

yea, I do too. blows my fucking mind that this is somehow what they think is wrong with Xin...
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
December 13 2011 16:01 GMT
#237
But hey, if he hits the entire enemy team with his ult, he'll have 10 more armor and MR than before!! That totally fixes him, right?
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 13 2011 16:03 GMT
#238
Hahaha did anyone watch the champion spotlight?

"My 4% critical chance from masteries triggers on both, and I get a completely free kill"
I am the Town Medic.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 13 2011 16:03 GMT
#239
Veigar buffs yeah.
OP now.
Enjoy him while you can, I certainly will.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 13 2011 16:03 GMT
#240
On December 14 2011 01:01 Haemonculus wrote:
But hey, if he hits the entire enemy team with his ult, he'll have 10 more armor and MR than before!! That totally fixes him, right?

yea! that will totally fix his whole, "Irelia does everything you do, only better" problem.

I mean fuck, the jungle changes were already a monstrous nerf to him, and he was fucking bad before them -_-.

*sigh*
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
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