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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17252 Posts
December 13 2011 11:44 GMT
#201
On December 13 2011 19:44 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
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On December 13 2011 19:39 JackDino wrote:
Tabis without dodge are utter trash for mitigation. yay 25armour just buy another cloth armour and get mercs instead, much better.

I think its 35 actually but ur still right.

25
twitch.tv/cratonz
napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
December 13 2011 11:44 GMT
#202
So how you guys think Ahri will play out? I never invested in a brand new champ, but Im thinking about buying her, though without no champ spotlight I have no clue how she'll be. Im pretty concerned about losing 6.3k IP. :-s
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
December 13 2011 11:47 GMT
#203
Popular streamers often try out the new champ, you can just watch them try her out.
No I'm never serious.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 13 2011 11:56 GMT
#204
On December 13 2011 20:44 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 19:44 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
On December 13 2011 19:39 JackDino wrote:
Tabis without dodge are utter trash for mitigation. yay 25armour just buy another cloth armour and get mercs instead, much better.

I think its 35 actually but ur still right.

25

It's 25 now. I think the changed version was expected to have 35.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17252 Posts
December 13 2011 11:59 GMT
#205
Store just opens a black screen and never loads since the patch -_-

On December 13 2011 18:34 UniversalSnip wrote:
chaox's eu loner account is 1000 elo, I've never seen 1000 elo before. Honestly it's hilarious, makes me wish I'd watched saints 0 elo games. Just like... amazing suicide flashes, janna and ashe ganking mid at level 1 instead of going bot and then bluepilling right in front of morgana, just the most mindblowing shit, it's so entertaining.

When I watched it it was kind of bugged because he still got teams matching his normal Elo, but with like hour queues.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 12:41:22
December 13 2011 12:28 GMT
#206
A "leak" of Victor. He already has the model in the client. =Viktor: The Machine Herald=

Skins: Full Machine Viktor and Prototype Viktor

Skill Assignments (Q,W,E,R) are all subject to change. Only listed for legibility.

Passive: Evolving Technology Viktor starts with a Hex Core that provides him with stats and can be upgraded in the store to augment one of his abilities. The Hex Core can only be upgraded once, and cannot be sold back to the store.

The Hex Core (Can Not Be Sold) +3 Ability Power per level This item can be upgraded into one of three augments that enhance Viktor's basic abilities. Click the item in the store to discover its upgrades.

Q: Power Transfer - Viktor blasts an enemy unit dealing magic damage, returning a portion of the damage dealt as a shield.

Augment: +3 Ability Power per level, +220 Health, +6 Health Regen per 5 seconds

Ability Augment: Increases Viktor's Movement Speed by 30% for 3 seconds

W: Gravity Field - Viktor conjures a heavy gravitational field, slowing all enemies and stacking a debuff every 0.5 seconds. At 3 stacks enemies inside are stunned for 1.5 seconds.

Augment: +3 Ability Power per level, +200 Mana, +10% Cooldown Reduction, +5 Mana Regen per 5 seconds

Ability Augment: Gravity Field has an additional 30% cast range.

E: Death Ray - Viktor uses his robotic arm to fire a chaos beam that cuts across the field in a line, dealing damage to any opponents struck in its path.

Augment: +3 Ability Power per level, +45 Ability Power

Ability Augment: Death Ray sets fire to enemies, dealing 30% additional magic damage over 4 seconds.

R: Chaos Storm - Viktor conjures a singularity on the field which deals magic damage and briefly silences enemies. The singularity then does magic damage to all nearby enemies every second. Viktor can redirect the singularity.

R (Chaos Storm Activated): Storm Control - Relocate the singularity to your cursor position.

Tips for Playing as Viktor: Death Ray is a powerful poke and a strong area of denial tool. Use it in combination with Graviton Field to control your enemy's position. Make sure you choose the right augment. Each augment serves to boost specific strengths in Viktor and can only be purchased once a game.

Tips for Opposing Viktor: Be careful about how close you let Viktor get to you. Viktor's control of the battle field increases with his proximity to his opponent. Be aware of what augment Viktor is using by looking at the color of the light on his staff.

Lore: Early in life, Viktor discovered his passion for science and invention, particularly in the field of mechanical automation. He attended Zaun's prestigious College of Techmaturgy and led the team that constructed Blitzcrank – a scientific breakthrough that he expected to vault him to the top of his profession. Unfortunately his triumph was usurped by Professor Stanwick, who stole credit for developing Blitzcrank's sentience and later used Viktor's research to revive Urgot. Viktor's appeals for justice fell on deaf ears, and he sank into a deep depression. He withdrew from the College and barricaded himself in his private laboratory, cutting all human ties. There, in secret, he conceived a project for which nobody else could claim credit. Desiring both to revolutionize his field and to eliminate the jealous human emotions which festered inside him, he engineered parts to replace and improve his own body. When Viktor re-emerged, almost no trace of the original man remained. Not only had he supplanted the majority of his anatomy, but his personality had changed. His previous hope to better society was replaced by an obsession with what he called ''the glorious evolution.'' He saw himself as the patron and pioneer of Valoran's future – a future in which man would renounce his flesh in favor of superior hextech augmentations. Though Viktor's initial appeals were met with heavy skepticism, scientists were confounded by the sophistication of his machinery. By integrating his mind with techmaturgical devices, he had been able to drastically accelerate the progress of his research. His transformation had stripped him of what he perceived as his emotional weaknesses, but there was some lingering residue of resentment against the Professor. Viktor joined the League of Legends to pit his inventions against the greatest opponents Valoran could offer, and to correct any weaknesses or inefficiencies that remained. ''In one's hand, techmaturgy is a tool. As one's hand, it is liberation.'' -Viktor
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
December 13 2011 12:37 GMT
#207
Spine, you're sort of my go to guy when I'm unsure about support discussions. Your argumentations have always striked me as very well thought out based on experience at the same time.

What's your take on GP5 yellows? I'm only playing Soraka and Sona as of now, and I run Armor red and yellows, AP/lvl blues (will change them for flat AP or MR I guess) and GP5 quints. I currently build Philo as my only GP5 and go for a relatively fast Shurelya's with it. I like playing aggressively on both of them and while some people argue that's not the way to go, I feel like it is because Soraka wins trades due to silence, Sona because of her raw early game DPS and HPS, making the trade worthwhile. Anyway, not the point of the post.

What I was trying to put across: I love both warding a whole freaking lot and aggression. Masteries, Avarice Quints AND Avarice yellows set me up with 7,5 additional GP5, which sounds pretty good. On the other hand, I trade 13 armor for just 2,5 GP5, which makes trading in lane a lot harder.

TL;DR:
Not sure if they are good for someone who just started support and likes warding a lot lot lot, but also tries to force engagements relatively early on.

currently rooting for myself.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 14:04:41
December 13 2011 13:30 GMT
#208
gp5 yellows are pretty awful in terms of rune slot value. They're 4x less effective than a quint and take ~15 minutes to break even with the ~200 gold you get from flat armor seals right away, which generally make laning a whole lot easier.

IMO new runes are pretty bad, the only ones worth considering are the lifesteal quints and even those have questionable value (you're trading 300 gold of AD for 225 gold of lifesteal)

Also I didn't see anyone mention it but ahri and skins don't come out till tomorrow.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
December 13 2011 13:45 GMT
#209
Are we STILL evaluating runes based on gold value?
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
December 13 2011 13:46 GMT
#210
Yup, I agree that the gp5 yellows look bad, plus without armour yellows you will just be so squishy.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17252 Posts
December 13 2011 13:48 GMT
#211
I don't use defensive yellows on my main supports as it is.
twitch.tv/cratonz
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
December 13 2011 14:18 GMT
#212
On December 13 2011 22:45 Unentschieden wrote:
Are we STILL evaluating runes based on gold value?

What else would we evaluate them on? You can turn gold into stats. Especially when it's a rune that gives you GOLD.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
December 13 2011 14:23 GMT
#213
but.. you can't turn armor seals into wards/oracles
And all is illuminated.
TwilightStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States649 Posts
December 13 2011 14:28 GMT
#214
Is this serious..? Why do they insist on nerfing kassadin again and again..? This is insane....
(5)Twilight Star.scx --------- AdmiralHoth: There was one week when I didn't shave for a month.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
December 13 2011 14:28 GMT
#215
Hey guys, do you think Rammus is more viable with the new boots now that it gives even more armor rather than dodge (I want to get hit) or should I remain with the tenacity?
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 13 2011 14:32 GMT
#216
Even on rammus dodge is good lol. In the jungle it's bad but you dont buy boots based on wether you jungle or not, otherwise zerkers all the way. You buy tabi when they have a heavy physical team and not too much cc, if they have lots of cc always get mercs. If they have a mixed team with no cc get whichever you feel like getting. Has nothing to do with wanting to get hit or not.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17252 Posts
December 13 2011 14:48 GMT
#217
On December 13 2011 23:28 TwilightStar wrote:
Is this serious..? Why do they insist on nerfing kassadin again and again..? This is insane....

Banned in like 95% of ranked games for a reason.
twitch.tv/cratonz
warscythes
Profile Joined December 2011
365 Posts
December 13 2011 14:51 GMT
#218
Hm, leaked champion looks interesting, damn that model looks cool.

Seem to have buttload of CC though and field control, might contest with Ori on that maybe?
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
December 13 2011 14:52 GMT
#219
On December 13 2011 23:48 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 23:28 TwilightStar wrote:
Is this serious..? Why do they insist on nerfing kassadin again and again..? This is insane....

Banned in like 95% of ranked games for a reason.


We should have a massive troll secret sceme vs riot, where we ban evelynn and shen 95% of the games, lets see how far they can get nerfed
KCCO!
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
December 13 2011 14:54 GMT
#220
On December 13 2011 23:52 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 23:48 Craton wrote:
On December 13 2011 23:28 TwilightStar wrote:
Is this serious..? Why do they insist on nerfing kassadin again and again..? This is insane....

Banned in like 95% of ranked games for a reason.


We should have a massive troll secret sceme vs riot, where we ban evelynn and shen 95% of the games, lets see how far they can get nerfed

Better nerf Irelia then.
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