EPT[Patch 1.0.0.128: Shyvana] General Discussion - Page 132
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
I think its a shit item if you are going full tank or glass cannon. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Imo the real deterrent for those items is that the big items are still extremely efficient and delaying those big items just hurts you too much. However, smaller items like Wriggle's and Wit's End are efficient enough that they are sometimes worth the delay on your big items. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On November 10 2011 07:11 Two_DoWn wrote: I think hexdrinker is good if you are going for one of those ad from a lot of spots builds- wriggles, hex, phage, bruta. I think its a shit item if you are going full tank or glass cannon. lol, well, sure. Infinity Edge sucks when you're building AP too. Hexdrinker is just a nice way to get at good AD ratios and spec vs. casters at the same time. The only people who need this are certain bruisers, so it's a niche item for them, but it's a good one. Better than Wit's End if you have good incentives to build AD. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On November 10 2011 07:14 Mogwai wrote: lol, well, sure. Infinity Edge sucks when you're building AP too. Hexdrinker is just a nice way to get at good AD ratios and spec vs. casters at the same time. The only people who need this are certain bruisers, so it's a niche item for them, but it's a good one. Better than Wit's End if you have good incentives to build AD. :S, Thats not my argument. If you go full ad ratios IMO its just better to get a bruta and thirsters, then just grab something like a GA if you want MR and a lifesaving passive. If you want full tank you have much better options for mr. I only get a drinker if I am staying on mid tier items. | ||
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Ayush_SCtoss
India3051 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On November 10 2011 07:15 Juicyfruit wrote: A lot of it has to do with people building mid-tier items and not committing to it. If you're going for that kind of an advantage, like for instance a haunting guise + sorc boot cheese, then you should probably extend that advantage further with a blue elixir. The efficiency of big-items goes straight out the window if the mid-tier items are getting you kill or towers, but being half-assed about getting advantage through mid-tier item advantage can really cost you. To be honest going for mid tier items on a AP hero is usually simply buying 3 d-rings. Nearly no one has 50 MR anyways and haunting guise tends to leave you really hurting for mana in lane while 3 drings give you almost as much damage, more health, *and* mana sustain to push around your opponent more. I suppose you could buy 3 drings and *then* HG but IMO that feels a lot like going all-in after your early push doesn't work. | ||
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On November 10 2011 08:13 phyvo wrote: To be honest going for mid tier items on a AP hero is usually simply buying 3 d-rings. Nearly no one has 50 MR anyways and haunting guise tends to leave you really hurting for mana in lane while 3 drings give you almost as much damage, more health, *and* mana sustain to push around your opponent more. I suppose you could buy 3 drings and *then* HG but IMO that feels a lot like going all-in after your early push doesn't work. That's why I've always assumed Haunting Guise was to give non-mana casters (vlad, rumble, kennen) more mid-game item options. I still never buy it, though. | ||
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rigwarl
United States540 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
jesus christ, these boots would have been ridiculously op lol | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 10 2011 08:41 Kenpachi wrote: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Yordle_Stompers jesus christ, these boots would have been ridiculously op lol Would have been more OP if they made it into an ability so you could use different boots and have Flash as well. wait.... | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 10 2011 09:15 Phrost wrote: I originally was sad that Skarner doesn't say "GET OVER HERE" when he ults. But as of late I'm feeling the "FEEL MY STING" because 90% of the time it hurts Apparently it was supposed to, but alas, got changed, | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 10 2011 07:15 Juicyfruit wrote: A lot of it has to do with people building mid-tier items and not committing to it. If you're going for that kind of an advantage, like for instance a haunting guise + sorc boot cheese, then you should probably extend that advantage further with a blue elixir. The efficiency of big-items goes straight out the window if the mid-tier items are getting you kill or towers, but being half-assed about getting advantage through mid-tier item advantage can really cost you. The other issue is that Riot seems to dislike champion designs that complement these midgame items. Midgame-centric items are good on midgame-centric champions, but every time there's a champion that Riot feels is too strong early-midgame and drops off lategame, they always screw with the power curve of the champion to make them fit that same semi-carry power curve that 90% of champions in this game have. | ||
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Craton
United States17291 Posts
On November 10 2011 09:17 Mr. Wiggles wrote: In your opinion, who are the hardest champions to play effectively and in general? Pick a champ with no mobility that has to stay close to do damage (aka not a champ that mashes their keyboard and does 90% of their damage in 1 second), while still avoiding getting raped. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
And my team wouldn't ward for me to tele, so oh well. We lost dragon twice? Try warding next time. Coulda tele'd to minions/tower, but Irelia should be in the middle of a fight from the time it starts. People so dumb. =\ | ||
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