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sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
March 17 2011 23:02 GMT
#9821
noooooooooooo i missed it, what happened?
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
March 17 2011 23:02 GMT
#9822
Only watched a bit of it don't really know what's going on other than Hotshot going on an ego trip which is pretty normal.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 23:10:59
March 17 2011 23:06 GMT
#9823
Phunk:

As far as I know is that it basically just works off of average Elo. For an average match the average difference from the mean for players is something like 20 or 50 points. However, the system weighs the contributions of higher elo players much higher than low elo players because Riot considers the "feeder" effect to be much less than the "carry" effect, which is why when you duo queue with someone of a much higher rank than you you just end up getting not just stupider teammates, but REALLY stupider teammates. As a result duo queuing to raise your elo isn't really in as much favor as it used to be.

That's all I know, Riot doesn't make a habit of releasing matchmaking specifics very often, they've never released the actual formulas or anything so this is about as much as anyone outside the company knows.

addendum: It also does some very basic practical stuff that you would expect, like starting out looking for close matches and then expanding the search as the queue timer gets higher.

Also, if you really want to go rooting around you could try the red tracker which may or may not be useful as you wade through months and months of random red posts.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
March 18 2011 00:09 GMT
#9824
Poor Loci =(
So many trolls in this game.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
March 18 2011 00:40 GMT
#9825
Well, I just started up. Did the first tutorial with ashe on a one-lane map, and then did a training game with Garen where I went 4-0. I am not really a fan of melee characters (Preferring Cyprus while playing SOTIS), but I think i did pretty well for my first game, even if it was only vs bots.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
March 18 2011 01:04 GMT
#9826
I can't logon to my main because I am apparently in a game on my smurf that I can't connect to.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
March 18 2011 01:22 GMT
#9827
On March 18 2011 10:04 HazMat wrote:
I can't logon to my main because I am apparently in a game on my smurf that I can't connect to.

love when that happens
You can't milk those!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 18 2011 01:23 GMT
#9828
Hotshot with the go 0-5-0 -> everything is team's fault manouvre. Rainman destroyed him pretty horribly. =P Rainman teemo's so good, my new fav player.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
March 18 2011 01:24 GMT
#9829
On March 18 2011 09:40 57 Corvette wrote:
Well, I just started up. Did the first tutorial with ashe on a one-lane map, and then did a training game with Garen where I went 4-0. I am not really a fan of melee characters (Preferring Cyprus while playing SOTIS), but I think i did pretty well for my first game, even if it was only vs bots.



keep it up man!
the amount of stupidity you will meet will astound you!
And all is illuminated.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 01:28:15
March 18 2011 01:27 GMT
#9830
This game is so extremely random its really stressful, one day you're owning it up with decent teammates, the next game you till own but your team are playing like bots going 0/10 and being generally awful.

REAL consistant skill in ELO brackets..
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 18 2011 01:37 GMT
#9831
On March 18 2011 10:27 Senx wrote:
This game is so extremely random its really stressful, one day you're owning it up with decent teammates, the next game you till own but your team are playing like bots going 0/10 and being generally awful.

REAL consistant skill in ELO brackets..

Well although people do end up going 0-10, it might not be as bad as you think... like I've had some games where the other person survives first blood with like 20 hp and I die, and after that the lane's totally lost and I die like 4-5 more times just because of the early close situation. Of course it's happened the other way around as well.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
March 18 2011 01:58 GMT
#9832
No this is like other lanes dying 5 times first 10 mins, mordekaiser acting like rambo vs enemy team kassa +backup, gets caught and dies, cho gath finally reaching 3 stacks at the 30 min mark etc.
Olaf standing at tower with 30% hp for 2 mins while amumu is visible to dive him with fiddle


Its really bad
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
March 18 2011 01:58 GMT
#9833
any1 else having problems with livestream?
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
March 18 2011 02:38 GMT
#9834
OP shit to abuse in solo q for easy elo: Sion, kass, nocturne. Just kill stuff early and snowball out of control. Fun times.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
March 18 2011 02:41 GMT
#9835
Add corki to that list.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
March 18 2011 03:07 GMT
#9836
Phunk:

The main reason why so many people cry about matchmaking is basically how their expectations don't align with the goal of the MM system, which is to produce fair matches and strive for a 1:1 WL ratio for 'every' individual. If you're a pro and you start a new account you'll go up real fast since you're not where you should be as far as Elo goes. What this means for a 'just-above-average' player is that he ''truly'' should have a 60% win-rate, but does not achieve it due to a combination of luck and lack of tryharding. Manning up and picking carries is almost mandatory if you expect to win more than 50% of your games. Or at least play something you're good at. If you randomly pick champs every game with no regard for team comp, you can't reasonably expect to win more than 50% of your games unless you're really lucky.
cool beans
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
March 18 2011 03:59 GMT
#9837
carrys no longer carry
thier now just range dps's
they dont scale the best with items(bruisers and tanks do)
they dont bring the most burst(mages do)
they dont bring the most sustained damage(bruisers and tanks do due to carrys not being able to attack 100% of the time in teamfights)

what they do bring
decent damage from afar and escape mechanisms
so they only work if ur team has the cc to get the other team on lockdown

im probably gonna switch to ap and junglers if their isnt a big upset in the foodchain~
i wish riot would give me better ping
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 18 2011 04:11 GMT
#9838
On March 18 2011 12:59 locodoco wrote:
carrys no longer carry
thier now just range dps's
they dont scale the best with items(bruisers and tanks do)
they dont bring the most burst(mages do)
they dont bring the most sustained damage(bruisers and tanks do due to carrys not being able to attack 100% of the time in teamfights)

what they do bring
decent damage from afar and escape mechanisms
so they only work if ur team has the cc to get the other team on lockdown

im probably gonna switch to ap and junglers if their isnt a big upset in the foodchain~


naw, it's not that drastic. It's just it feels like the "viable" carry pool has shrunk.
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mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
March 18 2011 04:20 GMT
#9839
they still scale the best damage wise (melee have to tank for the most part)
oh em gee casters burst
when you attack from range you can hit better targets and more shots seems more sustained to me
you mean a team with good amounts of cc makes a carry job easier... mind blown

Sounds like you had some bad games and just took it out on the forums but i responded anyway~
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
March 18 2011 04:22 GMT
#9840
On March 18 2011 12:59 locodoco wrote:
carrys no longer carry
thier now just range dps's
they dont scale the best with items(bruisers and tanks do)
they dont bring the most burst(mages do)
they dont bring the most sustained damage(bruisers and tanks do due to carrys not being able to attack 100% of the time in teamfights)

what they do bring
decent damage from afar and escape mechanisms
so they only work if ur team has the cc to get the other team on lockdown

im probably gonna switch to ap and junglers if their isnt a big upset in the foodchain~


fu couldnt u have lied
cool beans
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