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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On March 17 2011 17:48 Kaneh wrote: mmmm, It always seems to be better to go minigolems>wraith>wolves>blue, if you're not a relatively mana intensive skillspam jungler. It just seems that you spend a lot less time beating on blue with lvl 1 stats, less time waiting for it to spawn, and get to lvl 2 and 3 much more quickly. each part is small, but it snowballs together into putting you a good ways ahead of traditional blue starts. Plus lets you do lvl 4 ganks with a fresh red and a relatively recent blue. oh, and less jungle jacking. only one you're really vulnerable to is straight off wraith jacks, but you can generally get mid to cover that if you start at minigolems. On one of my jungle Nocturne runs I found smite big wraith -> wolves -> blue -> finish clear to be just as fast as starting at blue. The only problem was that I ended with the same HP that you'd get without a blue pull and so couldn't gank right away. On March 17 2011 19:18 dnastyx wrote: I love doing this path now: smite big wraith, have someone pull double golem. Sounds like genius. Will have to try it. | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On March 17 2011 14:18 Two_DoWn wrote: Caller slapped with the racism ban. rolf, real??? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=201864 | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On March 17 2011 21:33 Shikyo wrote: Yeah http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=201864 Yeah, i knew that thread, didnt know he can get banned of trolling...with a little of racism maybe so, no more Brazilian jokes?? = = League of Legends Subforum is still held to Team Liquid Moderating Standards. And a trash thread like this is not acceptable. fuuuuu | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
 Best part was changing locodoco to rocodoco. LOL | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
The problem is that I'm a white guy so I can't see the stereotypes very well outside of being unable to dance. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On March 17 2011 23:34 phyvo wrote: I wonder if you could get banned for a white guy tier list. The problem is that I'm a white guy so I can't see the stereotypes very well outside of being unable to dance. Coporate Mundo is a rich redneck | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
Corporate Mundo hunts where he pleases! (you might be Mundo if...?) | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
Summoners! The League of Legends forums are down for scheduled maintenance. They will be back online on Wednesday, Thursday March 17th at 8:30 A.M. Pacific Standard Time (PST). Our apologies for any inconveniences this has caused. Your friends, Riot Games Rebecca Black wat? | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On March 17 2011 19:23 Kaniol wrote: Seriously hearing Many Reason on CLG stream makes one's ears bleed lol i love it. brings some silliness back into CLG. needs more NFGL moments also lol @ caller testing mod's ban limits with major troll thread. i enjoyed his guide to LP regulars thread. hope he comes back to troll some more. btw seuss worst meme ever. sure its funny because its so troll but its also really depressing if you think about it. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 17 2011 17:48 Kaneh wrote: mmmm, It always seems to be better to go minigolems>wraith>wolves>blue, if you're not a relatively mana intensive skillspam jungler. It just seems that you spend a lot less time beating on blue with lvl 1 stats, less time waiting for it to spawn, and get to lvl 2 and 3 much more quickly. each part is small, but it snowballs together into putting you a good ways ahead of traditional blue starts. Plus lets you do lvl 4 ganks with a fresh red and a relatively recent blue. oh, and less jungle jacking. only one you're really vulnerable to is straight off wraith jacks, but you can generally get mid to cover that if you start at minigolems. The thing I don't like about this is that you lose the option to steal THEIR jungle (which is a relevant option because most of the junglers that can afford to start minigols are powerful enough to do so), because your minigols are too far from their red side jungle. It basically commits you to staying in your jungle longer--something I'd only really want to do on Warwick, Amumu, and maybe Olaf, because most other common junglers benefit from the threat of pre-4 gank/counterjungle options. And of those, Amumu still really wants his blue. On March 17 2011 19:18 dnastyx wrote: I love doing this path now: smite big wraith, have someone pull double golem. Does this really speed you up? The big wraith only has 350 HP, so it seems like overkilling the big wraith doesn't speed you up compared to just using it on one of the minigols. And I don't think it helps you with any XP breakpoints (e.g. smite big wraith->lizard lets you hit level 2 off lizard). I guess it depends on the jungler--as physical damage junglers clear minigol HP more easily, while magic damage junglers go through wraiths faster. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On March 17 2011 23:44 Tooplark wrote: Corporate Mundo hunts where he pleases! (you might be Mundo if...?) you might be mundo if you go where you please | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On March 18 2011 00:46 Phrost wrote: you might be mundo if you go where you please i wonder if the developer that made that was trying to make a meme. if so he must be real happy. same with the rammus okay thing(which i think is significantly funnier) | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On March 18 2011 00:18 TheYango wrote: The thing I don't like about this is that you lose the option to steal THEIR jungle (which is a relevant option because most of the junglers that can afford to start minigols are powerful enough to do so), because your minigols are too far from their red side jungle. It basically commits you to staying in your jungle longer--something I'd only really want to do on Warwick, Amumu, and maybe Olaf, because most other common junglers benefit from the threat of pre-4 gank/counterjungle options. And of those, Amumu still really wants his blue. Does this really speed you up? The big wraith only has 350 HP, so it seems like overkilling the big wraith doesn't speed you up compared to just using it on one of the minigols. And I don't think it helps you with any XP breakpoints (e.g. smite big wraith->lizard lets you hit level 2 off lizard). I guess it depends on the jungler--as physical damage junglers clear minigol HP more easily, while magic damage junglers go through wraiths faster. It can't possibly speed you up because you waste time running from wraith -> twins only to have to come back down again later. However, certain champs are basically a free kill while they do wraiths because of how much HP they lose, so doing it this route probably keeps you safer and prevents wraithjacking as well. | ||
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Phunkapotamus
United States496 Posts
On March 17 2011 17:28 HeavOnEarth wrote: ur enemies will be as horrible. barely positive K:D ratio means nothing. if u die u lose the game in these kind of games. carry harder. ur not as good as u think u are. etcetc That's not very constructive. I'm not saying I'm good. However, it's not unreasonable to assume some correlation between getting creep kills + buying the proper items and performing better at the game. Such a correlation would surprise me if it wasn't statistically significant enough to place me far apart from such idiots in matchmaking. But I guess, and as others have pointed out, that matchmaking favors speed over fairness? So I really shouldn't be offended when the mouth breathers come out of the woodwork? I seem to notice a severe decrease in the quality of players (on both sides) if I happen to queue with bad friends and we lose a game. After that point, I get a string of terrible players until I man-up and pick carries to raise my hidden normal elo. Anyone else notice this trend? It's really compelling to make a Smurf so this crap doesn't happen, and I don't need to be a commanding & carrying dick when I play with friends lest we lose the match. I'm just looking for some insight into their matchmaking heuristics. | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
and most importantly dont use teamliquid as your personal bitching forum. that gets boring really fast. /rant | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
On March 18 2011 00:18 TheYango wrote: Does this really speed you up? The big wraith only has 350 HP, so it seems like overkilling the big wraith doesn't speed you up compared to just using it on one of the minigols. And I don't think it helps you with any XP breakpoints (e.g. smite big wraith->lizard lets you hit level 2 off lizard). The wraiths have lifesteal though as well, so depending how fast you can kill it the big wraith may have more EHP in a fight without using smite(im not sure of exact numbers) | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On March 18 2011 03:03 Phunkapotamus wrote: That's not very constructive. I'm not saying I'm good. However, it's not unreasonable to assume some correlation between getting creep kills + buying the proper items and performing better at the game. Such a correlation would surprise me if it wasn't statistically significant enough to place me far apart from such idiots in matchmaking. But I guess, and as others have pointed out, that matchmaking favors speed over fairness? So I really shouldn't be offended when the mouth breathers come out of the woodwork? I seem to notice a severe decrease in the quality of players (on both sides) if I happen to queue with bad friends and we lose a game. After that point, I get a string of terrible players until I man-up and pick carries to raise my hidden normal elo. Anyone else notice this trend? It's really compelling to make a Smurf so this crap doesn't happen, and I don't need to be a commanding & carrying dick when I play with friends lest we lose the match. I'm just looking for some insight into their matchmaking heuristics. my post was a satire of your bitchfest which made me cringe when i was forced to read it. regardless, it's the advice every "good" player will give you, aside from taking you under their wing and spoon feeding you knowledge. maybe you just didn't understand, since your allies are idiots, your enemies will be equally retarded. and lemme get this straight- ur complaining about losing the game when you don't take a solo lane? also you're complaining about playing with bad teammates that you QUEUE with? | ||
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