Not sure i completely agree with his logic on it though, and personally i like several of the above ones.
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Foxxan
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Not sure i completely agree with his logic on it though, and personally i like several of the above ones. | ||
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karazax
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Hier
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Foxxan
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I respond "stfu". Iam worthy of a silence now if i get reported. Truly, the system feels like shit. Its pretty sweet beeing silent though, i dont like writing anyway. Anyway, i write it in this thread to see what other people feel about it. | ||
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SChlafmann
France725 Posts
On April 15 2016 17:42 Foxxan wrote: Just remember once, a guy says in draft "game is lost" I respond "stfu". Iam worthy of a silence now if i get reported. Truly, the system feels like shit. Its pretty sweet beeing silent though, i dont like writing anyway. Anyway, i write it in this thread to see what other people feel about it. Usually when I face someone like that, i reply : 1 - Game is never lost, we are not pro and there's no draft lose at this level. (I'm low rank 1) 2 - If you don't have the mindset to put a fight and do your best, don't play, or play AI. | ||
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Deleted User 101379
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On April 15 2016 18:14 SChlafmann wrote: Usually when I face someone like that, i reply : 1 - Game is never lost, we are not pro and there's no draft lose at this level. (I'm low rank 1) 2 - If you don't have the mindset to put a fight and do your best, don't play, or play AI. Very true. Yesterdays draft is a good example for draft gone wrong, match gone right: http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/MatchSummaryAjax?ReplayID=71449510 First two picks take Lunara & Illidan. I suggest we use Tassadar plus second support to boost the Illidan, so I pick Tassadar and other pick takes Li Li, though we don't lock in and ask whether the last pick can take tank. Last pick doesn't respond, so time runs out and we lock in. Last pick stays AFK, time runs out and he locks in Kerrigan. 7-8 minutes in the enemies tend to stand still, most likely typing some angry stuff at their teammates, run into us and spin in circles without doing anything and their Zeratul suicides trying to solo a keep. That was a rank 1-3 match, not rank 40 yolo bronze. No game is lost at the draft. You can always hope that your opponents screw it up and more often than not it will actually happen. | ||
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Foxxan
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You two above, you feel i was worthy of a silence in this case? | ||
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Deleted User 101379
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On April 15 2016 19:34 Foxxan wrote: What i wanted to know was what people feel about beeing worthy of a silence for writing "stfu" to someone. You two above, you feel i was worthy of a silence in this case? Depends on the context. It's certainly not the best way to defuse a situation and tends to increase arguing instead of reducing it, so it's most certainly negative and annoying. Personally, I wouldn't report for just that, but if a person is constantly negative then it might be the one thing that tips the balance in favor of reporting. Since you don't get silenced from just one game, it can't be the only reason why you got silenced. | ||
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ThomasjServo
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On April 15 2016 19:34 Foxxan wrote: What i wanted to know was what people feel about beeing worthy of a silence for writing "stfu" to someone. You two above, you feel i was worthy of a silence in this case? I would hazard to guess that it wasn't your first run in with the reporting system but that is pure speculation. Personally I've come to find people that expect or act like they expect the team to build around them more annoying. I had a guy in HL last night that was 4th pick and shows Murky and said legitimately, "I shouldn't have to heal I showed first." That was more obnoxious to me personally | ||
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Foxxan
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And the words that came up was "stfu" "shut the fuck up" "bitch" Bitch is a ugly word so yes, i agree with that. I think ive said it once only this forth time. But other than that i have responded with "stfu" or "shut the fuck up" to people that say something negative. And i havent written it alot either. Seriously, maybe total 4times if i remember correctly, maybe even less actually. I know for a fact people have reported me when they got mad at me, and not for beeing toxic or rude in chat. Such as "you ruined this game" or very early "gg" calls, "its lost" etc. The respond i have had is "stfu". Trying to think that i might have forgotten how i have behaved. The response i got from blizzard was only those words, and it didnt say how many times either so i guess it said those words once each time maybe(?) The biggest negative part about this is that silenced people is kindalooked down upon. | ||
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karazax
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SChlafmann
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So, what is the reason for this pick as of now? Is it the fact that Muradin has some basics but always useful spells whatever the situation? On April 15 2016 20:13 Foxxan wrote: Its my fourth silence, this forth time i decided to mail blizzard about it to investigate it cuz i have really behaved nicely this time i had thought. And the words that came up was "stfu" "shut the fuck up" "bitch" Bitch is a ugly word so yes, i agree with that. I think ive said it once only this forth time. But other than that i have responded with "stfu" or "shut the fuck up" to people that say something negative. And i havent written it alot either. Seriously, maybe total 4times if i remember correctly, maybe even less actually. I know for a fact people have reported me when they got mad at me, and not for beeing toxic or rude in chat. Such as "you ruined this game" or very early "gg" calls, "its lost" etc. The respond i have had is "stfu". Trying to think that i might have forgotten how i have behaved. The response i got from blizzard was only those words, and it didnt say how many times either so i guess it said those words once each time maybe(?) The biggest negative part about this is that silenced people is kindalooked down upon. Try to avoid words from your list, or add a "please" before or after. Worked well for me so far. Obviously we all get more or less mad sometimes when playing, but try to remain as nice as possible, it actually helps a lot. Just adding the word "please" changes totally -imho- the ton of the sentence. Regarding the early "gg" or "it's lost", i just reply "No, it is not", or my previous point 2. I seriously don't get how people can say that a game is lost while there is so much space for comeback in this game. Did they never had any comeback at all? | ||
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Ej_
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He isn't broken, but he's simply a very safe comfort pick that fits most drafts. | ||
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ThomasjServo
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Hook? Cleanse. Mosh? Stun ETC. Johanna can't jump away and has to give up talents to get self heal. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7142 Posts
On April 15 2016 21:08 karazax wrote: I'd recommend replying "just play" instead when someone says gg, or you ruined the game, or whatever, or just don't reply at all. We all get in situations where you want to say stfu, and will say it to ourselves, but it's not likely to help your current situation, and not likely to get the person you are addressing to actually shut up. I don't think stfu is report worthy on it's own, but if you are finding that Blizzard thinks it is worth silencing, then the benefit of self venting can't be worth the penalty. Less typing and more playing, and mute people who are getting on your nerves. I can't count how many times i yelled at my screen but i'd never write something like that. Basically my only response to toxicity is : "Shut up and start playing pls" or "Typing is losing" And yes, muted ppl are looked down upon and i feel rightfully so. IMO 95% of ppl that are muted are retards and shouldn't be allowed to play HL. Fact ^^ | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On April 15 2016 21:35 SChlafmann wrote: I don't get this 100% Muradin. Is he anyhow OP? I believe that last HotS event showed a winrate below 50% for Muradin while being picked a lot. So, what is the reason for this pick as of now? Is it the fact that Muradin has some basics but always useful spells whatever the situation? Overall Muradin just fits in most every comp with stun, good engage or escape, and sustain and most warrior players really comfortable on him. Certainly not OP though, but most NA warriors not great on Tyrael. Dehaka saw lots of success as solo tank though. Muradin is a comfort pick for many of the NA warriors, but NA tends to over value him, which was a problem for them at worlds when China and Korea could wait to pick warriors last and be quite happy with Tyrael if Muradin and ETC are banned out. BUTCHER PRICE REDUCTION NEXT WEEK: Weekly Sale Items for April 19 - 26, 2016
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ThomasjServo
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On April 15 2016 22:12 karazax wrote: Overall Muradin just fits in most every comp with stun, good engage or escape, and sustain and most warrior players really comfortable on him. Certainly not OP though, but most NA warriors not great on Tyrael. Dehaka saw lots of success as solo tank though. Muradin is a comfort pick for many of the NA warriors, but NA tends to over value him, which was a problem for them at worlds when China and Korea could wait to pick warriors last and be quite happy with Tyrael if Muradin and ETC are banned out. BUTCHER PRICE REDUCTION NEXT WEEK: Weekly Sale Items for April 19 - 26, 2016
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Do you think that playing solo tyrael or other off tanks in KR is more a reflection of a lower risk, lower reward style of play on the server? | ||
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Ej_
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On April 15 2016 22:41 ThomasjServo wrote: Do you think that playing solo tyrael or other off tanks in KR is more a reflection of a lower risk, lower reward style of play on the server? they don't play low risk, low reward, most of them just don't engage like shit (or get picked off randomly walking on the map) like many western teams do. Tyrael is popular in KR and CN because they have much better teamfighting | ||
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