EPTGeneral Discussion Dehaka Patch - Page 12
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karazax
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Foxxan
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ThomasjServo
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On April 12 2016 22:36 Harris1st wrote: I have to disagree to the generalisation here: Tychus Lazer is pretty good and almost always underrated as a target priority Abathurs (now buffed) monstrosity can be a real pain in the ass i believe (like 1 has to go back and deal with it, meanwhile the others can engage 4,hat v 4 or something along those lines) I forgot about abathur and about the laser for Tychus. I would argue though that monstrosity is different in that adds value in XP, the laser has potential but I guess I don't really see it as the same thing though it is in the same category. My broader point I suppose is that in any case where one of the two ults is/was a summon you seldom if ever see that as the preferred ultimate though it can go either way for Arthas. I think that is indication that they could use some attention from Blizzard. I think that Frostmourne Hungers needs some attention too. | ||
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Foxxan
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She has a summon and a damage heroic. She is forced to take the damaged heroic because its her best survival she has and her kit's survival is really low. So in this case, its not that the ultralisk is bad per se. | ||
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Ej_
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On April 12 2016 23:55 Foxxan wrote: If we look at kerrigan. She has a summon and a damage heroic. She is forced to take the damaged heroic because its her best survival she has and her kit's survival is really low. So in this case, its not that the ultralisk is bad per se. ultralisk actually is awful | ||
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ThomasjServo
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FeyFey
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
"Suppression pulse now effects the entire battlefield instead of a large circle." <---still not better than purifier beam somehow. | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
On April 13 2016 00:23 ThomasjServo wrote: I mean is there a situation where Ultralisk would be the better choice? I'm honestly asking. I take it in beginner ai games if I have to play a SC assassin. Not right now, no. But not because the ultralisk cant work, evne tho we never see it we cant know for sure if it would be useful or not.. Point is, kerrigan needs survival 100% or else she just dies. Could see ultralisk being used if kerrigan didnt have these huge survival issues. 1. Can hunt a squishy while kerrigan targets another hero, making it so the squishy needs to move away. 2. Can split soak at lvl 20(with the talent upgrade) 3. Deal extra damage to primary target(?) 4. Body block. And also "body block" versus spells. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On April 13 2016 00:52 Foxxan wrote: Not right now, no. But not because the ultralisk cant work, evne tho we never see it we cant know for sure if it would be useful or not.. Point is, kerrigan needs survival 100% or else she just dies. Could see ultralisk being used if kerrigan didnt have these huge survival issues. 1. Can hunt a squishy while kerrigan targets another hero, making it so the squishy needs to move away. 2. Can split soak at lvl 20(with the talent upgrade) 3. Deal extra damage to primary target(?) 4. Body block. And also "body block" versus spells. Kinda like Misha without a handicapped main hero  ? | ||
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ThomasjServo
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
On April 13 2016 05:56 SC2Toastie wrote: Kinda like Misha without a handicapped main hero ?Yes | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On April 13 2016 07:32 ThomasjServo wrote: What is with the uptick in nazeebo play on hotslogs? He has the highest win rate right now, what did I miss? My interpretation is that with bans it is possible to draft some heroes much more safely than before. | ||
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SChlafmann
France725 Posts
On April 13 2016 07:32 ThomasjServo wrote: What is with the uptick in nazeebo play on hotslogs? He has the highest win rate right now, what did I miss? Imho he has always been good. I haven't been playing him a lot lately cause everybody used to cry when they see a Naz pick, but as long as I remember, I was always top damage dealer or close with him. Also, the longer the game, the OPier he is, ending up with close HP amount to a Muradin or alike, with infinite mana... The one think he really lacks is decent AI for Gargantuan, cause as of now I find it impossible to kite while Gargantuan is there. Maybe add control like Raynor's banshees... (maybe it is already the case and I'm just stupid/blind?). | ||
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Foxxan
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ThomasjServo
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On April 13 2016 17:32 SChlafmann wrote: Imho he has always been good. I haven't been playing him a lot lately cause everybody used to cry when they see a Naz pick, but as long as I remember, I was always top damage dealer or close with him. Also, the longer the game, the OPier he is, ending up with close HP amount to a Muradin or alike, with infinite mana... The one think he really lacks is decent AI for Gargantuan, cause as of now I find it impossible to kite while Gargantuan is there. Maybe add control like Raynor's banshees... (maybe it is already the case and I'm just stupid/blind?). Fair enough, I suppose he could do well against a xul too considering their kits are similar ish, but he benefits from Xuls trait too. On April 13 2016 11:03 MotherFox wrote: My interpretation is that with bans it is possible to draft some heroes much more safely than before. I can see that too. I just popped onto HotsLogs and was surprised to see him at the top. Two nights ago we played against a Naz every game too, it was strangeness. | ||
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Leolio
France633 Posts
edit: ingame description says "enemy", so yes, he actually feeds on Xul's trait. That's great. But for Dehaka, it's enemy minion or hero, so it doesn't work. Not Illidan's unending hatred either. Are there others ? | ||
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Foxxan
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FeyFey
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karazax
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