EPTTyrael plays more like a support warrior with the speed buffs, slows, shields and sanctuary, along with skillful holy ground placement zoning. Some good general tips for Tyrael play here.
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karazax
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Tyrael plays more like a support warrior with the speed buffs, slows, shields and sanctuary, along with skillful holy ground placement zoning. Some good general tips for Tyrael play here. | ||
Valiver
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Ej_
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On April 16 2016 02:10 Valiver wrote: She looks crazy strong (and annoying). Also in the spotlights don't they usually point out weaknesses too? Cause they didn't do that this time lol. "Tracer's weakness is the first ban, use it wisely in ranked games to negate her advantages!" | ||
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ThomasjServo
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Off the cuff I'd guess that the slow buff on 10 will be the preferred choice on a lot of maps as well. | ||
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karazax
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ThomasjServo
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On April 16 2016 02:34 karazax wrote: Health is supposed to be exceptionally low as the weakness. Murky as a counter inc. | ||
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karazax
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FeyFey
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And she is a farming hero like Dehaka, so she has to prepare her Ult for a team fight, or she is basically just autoattacks. Curious how her ult build up works. And if Blizzard is Blizzard and gave her an instant waveclear talent x3. Will be fun to learn her recall position and then just blow her up. It should be way easier then in Overwatch. | ||
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Hier
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karazax
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(Trait) (D) Reload
(Q) Blink
(W) Melee
(E) Recall
(R) Pulse Bomb – Tracer’s only Heroic!
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Thezzy
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On April 16 2016 03:05 Hier wrote: This whole direction is so stupid... her mobility negates all skill shots and any abilities with a timed activation. No longer do you have to expect certain abilities from opponents and play around them, you can just fix whatever mistake you made instantly... several times, it appears, in succession. Her health needs to be like 1000 and damage 10-20 at level 20 for her to be remotely balanced. She provides zero crowd control however. Her blink is short range so you'll need to use multiple charges to get out of trouble, I doubt she'll have much sustain and the Recall is going to be wonky at times depending on where you were. Not to mention the fact she can't do anything whilst stunned (dunno if she Recall whilst stunned). Add to that a low health bar and likely zero sustain, she won't be able to duel AA heroes like Raynor or Valla since her AA damage seems to be lower than that of other assassins. She'll be annoying as hell for sure, but I still think she can get blown up very easily. Sure she can dodge a skillshot. Given her fragility she has to. Repeatedly. Too early to really tell either way. Will have to wait until she's released and played properly for a week or two. | ||
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Valiver
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ThomasjServo
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On April 16 2016 03:54 Valiver wrote: She can use recall while stunned I'm pretty sure. So when they say cleanse they mean cleanse cleanse. | ||
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ETisME
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Pretty much a direct hard counter for the team. | ||
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Ej_
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On April 16 2016 14:28 ETisME wrote: Someone else mentioned a really good counter to Tracer on reddit : brightwing Pretty much a direct hard counter for the team. reddit assumes BW is a counter to everything they can't deal with because of polymorph then it turns out BW can't do anything outside of poly and Z and she sucks | ||
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Harris1st
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![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/0KSDbBq) Link Ofc it helps that Leoric entombed al lot of ppl ^^ End it makes you play reeeeally careful, which is a good thing  EDIT: Does the image show? Or how does that work? | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
BW is pretty strong if you have a self sustain tank and one burst melee assassin as your frontline. Can't blind pick her, otherwise you end up with a Thrall BW pairing or something silly or Illidan, these two negate their abilities perfectly. Kerrigan is rawr with BW though. But BW might be bad against Tracre, since Tracer can poke around you and deal damage over time you can't outheal with your passive. Depending on how fast her skill cooldown is. Then again Tracer has no Mana, so she is probably a good support mana drain, so rotating around and having BW in the middle might be the answer lol. Can even help against Pulsebomb later on. And is immune to getting hit by it, since she has the same blink as tracer as long as a friendly is there.  But Tracer seems more of an independent pick, nothing you build your team around. So you just draft against the other 4, who are rather restricted in their picks because of Tracer. So you can ban out waveclear heroes and pick em yourself and go either for a bursty comp with BW. Or you go Johanna and blind Tracer everytime she tries to empty her clip and go for a poke comp. All just theories though. | ||
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