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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45456 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-16 12:47:52
April 16 2016 12:47 GMT
#301
Tracer looks like a hero with a really high skill ceiling = should be really entertaining to watch/ play

For people who think that she can't be countered, I think 2 points are important:
1. Her recall cooldown is 24 seconds. That's not super fast, especially if she's trying to retreat.
2. All of the video's clips are basically 1v1 (there's no ganking or coming from different directions); she might be able to blink/ recall from one altercation, but I'm sure with smart positioning, she could get picked off by a second hero. She probably doesn't have much hp anyway.
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
April 16 2016 14:13 GMT
#302
Stimdrone Tracer meta pls
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Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
April 16 2016 15:58 GMT
#303
On April 16 2016 23:13 Larkin wrote:
Stimdrone Tracer meta pls

I don't think this will actually work very well, because I assume Stim Drone won't lower her reload time.
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
April 16 2016 21:15 GMT
#304
On April 17 2016 00:58 Valiver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 23:13 Larkin wrote:
Stimdrone Tracer meta pls

I don't think this will actually work very well, because I assume Stim Drone won't lower her reload time.


Her reload time seems unbelievably fast anyway? I figure if you spam through all ammo super quick... will be interesting to see what her talents are
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 16 2016 23:07 GMT
#305
Better aspd also benefits her ult build up. Gotta test that with the quad speed buff team !
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-17 01:02:52
April 17 2016 01:02 GMT
#306
Tracer Talents by Level
LEVEL 1
  • Pulse Strike: Increases Melee’s Pulse Bomb charges from 10% to 15% against Heroes.
  • Slipstream: Reduces Recall’s cooldown by 4 seconds and increases the amount of time Recalled by 1 second.
  • Tracer Rounds: Your Basic Attacks reveal enemies for 4 seconds.

LEVEL 4
  • Parting Gift: Recall leaves behind 3 bombs that deal 250 damage each to different targets.
  • Is That a Health Pack?!: Increases Regeneration Globe and Healing Fountain healing by 100%.
  • Untouchable: Takedowns increase your Basic Attack damage by 2% up to 30%. These bonuses are lost on death.

LEVEL 7
  • Jumper: Increases Blink’s charges by 1.
  • Bullet Time: Basic Attacks lower the cooldown of Blink by 0.1 seconds.
  • Spatial Echo: Using Recall grants 2 charges of Blink.

LEVEL 10 (Heroic Upgrades)
  • Sticky Bomb: Increases Pulse Bomb’s radius by 50% and enemies hit are slowed by 60% for 3 seconds.
  • Quantum Spike: Pulse Bomb deals an additional 10% of the primary target’s maximum Health.
  • Pulse Rounds: Increases Pulse Bomb’s range and charge rate from Basic Attacks against Heroes by 100%.

LEVEL 13
  • Bullet Spray: Increases Melee’s radius by 50%, and causes it to damage all enemies in range.
  • Ricochet: Your Basic Attacks have a 50% chance to hit another nearby enemy, prioritizing Heroes.
  • Leeching Rounds: Your Basic Attacks against Heroes heal you for 20% of their damage dealt.

LEVEL 16
  • Sleight of Hand: Reduces Reload time by 50%. This equals 20% more damage per second.
  • Focus Fire: If an entire ammo magazine is unloaded on an enemy, the last bullet will deal 90 bonus damage. This is equal to 30% of the total magazine.
  • Locked and Loaded: Reactivate Reload within the last 50% of its cast time to increase your Basic Attack damage by 35% for that magazine.

LEVEL 20
  • Get Stuffed!: Reduces Melee’s cooldown by 3 seconds. Hitting an enemy with Melee who is stuck with a Pulse Bomb causes the bomb to instantly explode and knocks the target away from you.
  • Total Recall: Recall also heals you equal to the amount of Health lost during that time.
  • Composition B: If you successfully stick a Pulse bomb to an enemy Hero, you also drop another one at their feet that deals 50% damage and explodes slightly earlier.

ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
April 17 2016 01:12 GMT
#307
Seems like she'll have a lot of talent diversity and ability to adapt to composition. Seems promising though I wish they didn't give her gathering power basically on 4. Seems lazy .
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
April 17 2016 02:06 GMT
#308
Christ, she looks good. That level 1 talent is a lol fuck you to Zera/Nova.
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
April 17 2016 02:08 GMT
#309
I get the feeling the range of her Blink is going to need a nerf, it seems crazy for having three charges with a 6 second CD
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-17 05:47:04
April 17 2016 05:46 GMT
#310
Tracer looks op... but also exactly my like my playstyle (ranged dmg and mobility) so i'm excited!
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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
April 17 2016 09:12 GMT
#311
On April 17 2016 11:06 Larkin wrote:
Christ, she looks good. That level 1 talent is a lol fuck you to Zera/Nova.


Cloak doesn't kick in until after 3s of not taking damage, so it's not that strong of a talent. The bigger part of it is not being able to hide in bushes to deter her poke AA.
On April 17 2016 14:46 sM.Zik wrote:
Tracer looks op... but also exactly my like my playstyle (ranged dmg and mobility) so i'm excited!

She probably has shit health though. It'll require a ton of skill to use her properly or she should be nerfed bigtime till she does. That much mobility and get out of jail free potential should not be as easy as Li Ming turned out to be.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 17 2016 15:25 GMT
#312
Wow she does have some Waveclear talents, not the best ones though heh . Malf should be her fave Healer.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
April 18 2016 11:53 GMT
#313
Tyrandes damage with the none-heal ult feels insane.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
April 18 2016 12:35 GMT
#314
On April 18 2016 20:53 Foxxan wrote:
Tyrandes damage with the none-heal ult feels insane.

With battle momentum gets to feeling like phoenix in the good old days too. It'll get tuned down some in a patch or two I think.

I actually had a tyrade build her q heal for everything except trueshot aura and out healed Uther while taking starfall. It was super interesting to see.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 18 2016 14:24 GMT
#315
I suspect the patch tomorrow with Tracer will have the warrior reworks for Artanis, Arthas and Anub'arak. Will be interesting to see what else gets added or changed. Butcher price drop is only thing confirmed so far.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
April 18 2016 15:04 GMT
#316
On April 18 2016 21:35 ThomasjServo wrote:

I actually had a tyrade build her q heal for everything except trueshot aura and out healed Uther while taking starfall. It was super interesting to see.


I think uther is the lowest healing number healer out there now.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-18 15:15:37
April 18 2016 15:05 GMT
#317
On April 19 2016 00:04 MotherFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 21:35 ThomasjServo wrote:

I actually had a tyrade build her q heal for everything except trueshot aura and out healed Uther while taking starfall. It was super interesting to see.


I think uther is the lowest healing number healer out there now.

True, probably the only one she could compete with realistically. They are both kind of swiss army knife healers. Maybe Lili, who knows
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
April 18 2016 15:10 GMT
#318
On April 16 2016 19:27 Harris1st wrote:
The flamestrike build with convection everybody claims is so bad:

[image loading]


Link

Ofc it helps that Leoric entombed al lot of ppl ^^
End it makes you play reeeeally careful, which is a good thing


EDIT: Does the image show? Or how does that work?


I can click through to it. My feeling on convection is it is mostly good if opponents don't dodge it or you have a team that can force them not to. So it's hard to claim it's good when for all we know rehgar and sonya decided to charge in as a group of 2 and never dodge convection strikes ever
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 18 2016 15:57 GMT
#319
If you can get the stacks to get Convection permanent then it's good, but very risky to assume that against good competition so I generally don't risk it. I think Fel Infusion is the most reliable choice. Gives good sustain heals for laning and a 5% dmg boost so it's always useful. Mana Addict is situational if it's a high globe map.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
April 18 2016 17:14 GMT
#320
On April 19 2016 00:57 karazax wrote:
If you can get the stacks to get Convection permanent then it's good, but very risky to assume that against good competition so I generally don't risk it. I think Fel Infusion is the most reliable choice. Gives good sustain heals for laning and a 5% dmg boost so it's always useful. Mana Addict is situational if it's a high globe map.


Yeah, I have noticed that an enemy KT going convection turns into a little game of "can we kill him once every 3-5 minutes?"
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