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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-19 15:46:04
April 19 2016 15:45 GMT
#341
pretty huge buff on Artanis
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
April 19 2016 15:49 GMT
#342
On April 20 2016 00:02 ThomasjServo wrote:
This is a great example of an unnecessary quest talent.


What? The cocktail? I'm kind of glad they changed it. It felt like you basically didn't have a cocktail unless you took that talent. With the necessity of the talent removed, if greymane's winrate goes down they can make other adjustments while keeping the flavor of his kit there.

Basically, when taking incendiary elixer at 7 before he turned a little too much into a generic area damage caster. This change preserves what is supposed to be special about his kit in terms of raw game mechanics, and if it doesn't work out bliz can change later.

In other news, can't wait to play with tracer every game tonight! [after playing over the weekend I am also super pumped about overwatch, but i'm not really sure where to express this excitement on the TL forums.]
Don't Panic
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
April 19 2016 15:58 GMT
#343
On April 20 2016 00:49 MotherFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 00:02 ThomasjServo wrote:
This is a great example of an unnecessary quest talent.


What? The cocktail? I'm kind of glad they changed it. It felt like you basically didn't have a cocktail unless you took that talent. With the necessity of the talent removed, if greymane's winrate goes down they can make other adjustments while keeping the flavor of his kit there.

Basically, when taking incendiary elixer at 7 before he turned a little too much into a generic area damage caster. This change preserves what is supposed to be special about his kit in terms of raw game mechanics, and if it doesn't work out bliz can change later.

In other news, can't wait to play with tracer every game tonight! [after playing over the weekend I am also super pumped about overwatch, but i'm not really sure where to express this excitement on the TL forums.]

Fair points, I just don't want every character to have a quest talent.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
April 19 2016 16:02 GMT
#344
Just tried tracer, i dont know, first feeling is she feels boring.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
April 19 2016 16:03 GMT
#345
On April 20 2016 01:02 Foxxan wrote:
Just tried tracer, i dont know, first feeling is she feels boring.

She looked less imbalanced than I previously thought. Not a Li Ming off the cuff.
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
April 19 2016 16:54 GMT
#346
Artanis's talent should have been over 100% (perhaps 125%). Nobody will pick it now.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
April 19 2016 16:55 GMT
#347
On April 20 2016 01:03 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 01:02 Foxxan wrote:
Just tried tracer, i dont know, first feeling is she feels boring.

She looked less imbalanced than I previously thought. Not a Li Ming off the cuff.


Unless her damage is off the charts, I doubt she'd ever be in release li-ming territory. Li-ming had disruption, insane burst, and could do it all from a screen away. The range also let her burn down early game buildings in no time flat, so she was kind of a threat on many levels.
Don't Panic
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 19 2016 16:59 GMT
#348
omg they really made charge baseline, insanity.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
April 19 2016 17:10 GMT
#349
On April 20 2016 01:55 MotherFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 01:03 ThomasjServo wrote:
On April 20 2016 01:02 Foxxan wrote:
Just tried tracer, i dont know, first feeling is she feels boring.

She looked less imbalanced than I previously thought. Not a Li Ming off the cuff.


Unless her damage is off the charts, I doubt she'd ever be in release li-ming territory. Li-ming had disruption, insane burst, and could do it all from a screen away. The range also let her burn down early game buildings in no time flat, so she was kind of a threat on many levels.

The streams of her in try mode with Arthas at least made it seem like she was pretty combo dependent, there is some cool stuff with a reload talent, but kit wise nothing seems obviously Ess of Johan.

I do want to see her with stim drone on though.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
April 19 2016 17:14 GMT
#350
On April 20 2016 02:10 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 01:55 MotherFox wrote:
On April 20 2016 01:03 ThomasjServo wrote:
On April 20 2016 01:02 Foxxan wrote:
Just tried tracer, i dont know, first feeling is she feels boring.

She looked less imbalanced than I previously thought. Not a Li Ming off the cuff.


Unless her damage is off the charts, I doubt she'd ever be in release li-ming territory. Li-ming had disruption, insane burst, and could do it all from a screen away. The range also let her burn down early game buildings in no time flat, so she was kind of a threat on many levels.

The streams of her in try mode with Arthas at least made it seem like she was pretty combo dependent, there is some cool stuff with a reload talent, but kit wise nothing seems obviously Ess of Johan.

I do want to see her with stim drone on though.


Try mode is tricky. In try mode full-damage monk at release seemed like it could 100-0 an arthas in no time flat, but for some reason in-game it didn't work out that way very often.
Don't Panic
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
April 19 2016 17:20 GMT
#351
On April 20 2016 02:14 MotherFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 02:10 ThomasjServo wrote:
On April 20 2016 01:55 MotherFox wrote:
On April 20 2016 01:03 ThomasjServo wrote:
On April 20 2016 01:02 Foxxan wrote:
Just tried tracer, i dont know, first feeling is she feels boring.

She looked less imbalanced than I previously thought. Not a Li Ming off the cuff.


Unless her damage is off the charts, I doubt she'd ever be in release li-ming territory. Li-ming had disruption, insane burst, and could do it all from a screen away. The range also let her burn down early game buildings in no time flat, so she was kind of a threat on many levels.

The streams of her in try mode with Arthas at least made it seem like she was pretty combo dependent, there is some cool stuff with a reload talent, but kit wise nothing seems obviously Ess of Johan.

I do want to see her with stim drone on though.


Try mode is tricky. In try mode full-damage monk at release seemed like it could 100-0 an arthas in no time flat, but for some reason in-game it didn't work out that way very often.

Agree, context is needed. I think she'll be not be lunara though.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
April 19 2016 17:24 GMT
#352
Woo we got a trailer this time
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Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
April 19 2016 17:25 GMT
#353
Whenever Blizzard mentions "abysmally low health pool" it always ends up higher than Valla's. This time, "Tracer has no hp" means that she has 5 less than Valla at lvl20. Hooray!

MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
April 19 2016 17:39 GMT
#354
"there are so many friendly people here! I just want to shoot them all in the face"
Don't Panic
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-19 17:44:03
April 19 2016 17:43 GMT
#355
"Love the hair!"
Imagine someone saying that to her in the SC2 universe.

Does this mean Widowmaker is going to be a Nova skin? xD
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-19 18:17:37
April 19 2016 17:43 GMT
#356
oh lame, I prepurchased overwatch but tracer isn't activated for me.

edit> fixed now? that was fast!
Don't Panic
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
April 19 2016 17:44 GMT
#357
Something's wrong in Try Mode, Arthas is dealing 1000dmg per autoattack at lvl20. :D

MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
April 19 2016 18:10 GMT
#358
On April 20 2016 02:44 Big G wrote:
Something's wrong in Try Mode, Arthas is dealing 1000dmg per autoattack at lvl20. :D



I am not seeing this issue on my side.
Don't Panic
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
April 19 2016 18:19 GMT
#359
On April 20 2016 03:10 MotherFox wrote:
I am not seeing this issue on my side.

It doesn't happen always and I don't know how to replicate it. Last time I tried it went from 217 (standard) to 495 for no apparent reason in the same session.

[image loading]

That was for 4 consecutive attacks, so no Frostmourne Hungers.

i had one session where he was dealing almost 1000 aa and 900ish with Mortal Coil (untalented)

Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
April 19 2016 18:23 GMT
#360
Based on one entire game against Tracer while playing Butcher, I can conclude that she literally impossible to kill and extremely frustrating to play against as melee.

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Yes, I am very butthurt even though we won the game.
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