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On April 20 2016 03:23 Ctesias wrote:Based on one entire game against Tracer while playing Butcher, I can conclude that she literally impossible to kill and extremely frustrating to play against as melee. + Show Spoiler +Yes, I am very butthurt even though we won the game. Hope hots, where you hope tracer can't count how many blinks she has left.
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Caldeum1977 Posts
Can you interrupt Tracer's reload with stuns/knockbacks to effectively lower her AA damage? I won't be able to play hots for possibly a few days so am curious. If you can that'll be an extra level of finesse to playing against her.
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Arteezy my neezy in the heezy fo sheezy!
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Lots of people streaming her on twitch, watching McInyre play some. She dies really easy, but crazy chase, and easy to body block while constantly auto attacking. But she takes one poke damage spell from most heroes and is close to half life.
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Also there is an undocumented Tychus change to his grenade ability. They do now damage over time additionally after the initial explosion damage. This damage seems to be 50% of the initial explosion damage over 5 damage ticks (10% / tick).
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Tracer is easier to control then I thought, still really hard to play and her blink can't go through walls just as i hoped.
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On April 20 2016 04:00 FeyFey wrote: Tracer is easier to control then I thought, still really hard to play and her blink can't go through walls just as i hoped. The spotlight seemed to indicate as much when she dodged force wall, but good to know.
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in the spotlight she blinked around it using 3 blinks heh, also blinked arounds roots instead through them. Just got 3 bombs in a single fight though lol.
LOL I accidently hit E on my mount I was like 3 years away from the team fight.
Kay Uther blocked my Pulse bomb with divine shield, grays out your pulse bomb, but you just gotta charge it new. Also Rip Murky. Puffer Fish just vanishes against Tracer.
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Just finished the obligatory "first game no one knows how to play against the new hero so she is totally broken definitely" game. Danced around enemy team all game, got 2x li-ming's hero damage O_O Locked & Loaded on 16 is really silly, since it's super easy to proc it every time once you are used to it. It's almost like playing gall, where you just need to acclimate yourself to randomly hitting a button during fights b/c cho threw a bomb.
edit-> Just checked the MMR of everyone in the game. Jesus, the tracers were each 2500-2700 MMR, everyone else in the game was below 1800. No wonder it was so easy.
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Found the ultimate conter to Tracer. Malf just Moonfires her to death, nothing she can do.
Patchnotes said, hero level will be taken into account. So low level heroes of you will get easier opponents. So yeah. I hate that change btw.
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On April 20 2016 04:55 FeyFey wrote: Found the ultimate conter to Tracer. Malf just Moonfires her to death, nothing she can do.
Run away?
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On April 20 2016 04:43 MotherFox wrote: edit-> Just checked the MMR of everyone in the game. Jesus, the tracers were each 2500-2700 MMR, everyone else in the game was below 1800. No wonder it was so easy.
that's because new quick match change places you against lower MMR if you are playing a hero you never played before. But it's supposed to be placing you against "slightly" lower mmr.
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The why is obvious, but c'mon. a flat minimum level would suffice for QM if they really want to make adjustments or w/e based on your level with the hero.
Just ensure you've played an AI game with the toon and that is it or something. You could do it in try mode even.
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the Tracer did run away all the time, that why their team lost. Really love Malf with and against her *-* .
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Actually if you are higher level with a hero you play against stronger opponents. So my level 16 heroes I play when I want to have fun are now matched against really really good players. So I have to actually take serious talents.
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On April 20 2016 04:57 karazax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2016 04:43 MotherFox wrote: edit-> Just checked the MMR of everyone in the game. Jesus, the tracers were each 2500-2700 MMR, everyone else in the game was below 1800. No wonder it was so easy. that's because new quick match change places you against lower MMR if you are playing a hero you never played before. But it's supposed to be placing you against "slightly" lower mmr.
losing team had lower character levels overall, and their hotslogs mmr average was like 400 under ours. I suspect this is just "new character day matchmaking"
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I had some abysmal teammates today and the compositions sucked balls as well. Three times no stun or CC of any real kind on my team vs double/triple stun & CC on the enemy team. You can guess how that went.
Tracer is fun to play. Blinking around and kiting all day is so much fun and when you combine Blink with Recall you can escape almost any situation. Her damage isn't very high but it is constant so I was usually topping the damage charts though most of it would have been poke damage. Li-Ming and a few other heroes with high burst damage are a good counter since they can just force Tracer to fall back or risk dying to the next burst. Squishy as all hell. Really squishy.
Things to learn is how to use Recall properly when you get engaged at a bad angle and landing the Pulse Bomb consistently. Such a short range. I always get Pulse Rounds at 10 for the faster recharge and additional range.
Also, I heard her attack speed is locked and cannot be boosted. Is this true?
Now if I could only get a team where we actually have some CC on OUR side for once, I might actually win a game today.
Also, to all solo queue Gazlowe players out there. I hate you with a passion. Stop ruining games for four other people by only joining every other teamfight, if you even join them at all. Sigh. He can work with a team built around him. Not in solo queue.
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Yeah Tracer is nice and alot to learn with and against her. Still think she is a situational pick though. OOMG you can disable pings from people now Awesome
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On April 20 2016 05:36 Thezzy wrote: Also, to all solo queue Gazlowe players out there. I hate you with a passion. Yeah, well, I hate you too.
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So tychus is buffed this patch then? Undocumentary change.
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