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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
April 19 2016 18:33 GMT
#361
On April 20 2016 03:23 Ctesias wrote:
Based on one entire game against Tracer while playing Butcher, I can conclude that she literally impossible to kill and extremely frustrating to play against as melee.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yes, I am very butthurt even though we won the game.

Hope hots, where you hope tracer can't count how many blinks she has left.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
April 19 2016 18:36 GMT
#362
Can you interrupt Tracer's reload with stuns/knockbacks to effectively lower her AA damage? I won't be able to play hots for possibly a few days so am curious. If you can that'll be an extra level of finesse to playing against her.
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
April 19 2016 18:49 GMT
#363
Arteezy my neezy in the heezy fo sheezy!
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-19 19:00:02
April 19 2016 18:55 GMT
#364
Lots of people streaming her on twitch, watching McInyre play some. She dies really easy, but crazy chase, and easy to body block while constantly auto attacking. But she takes one poke damage spell from most heroes and is close to half life.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 19 2016 18:57 GMT
#365
Also there is an undocumented Tychus change to his grenade ability. They do now damage over time additionally after the initial explosion damage. This damage seems to be 50% of the initial explosion damage over 5 damage ticks (10% / tick).
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 19 2016 19:00 GMT
#366
Tracer is easier to control then I thought, still really hard to play and her blink can't go through walls just as i hoped.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
April 19 2016 19:08 GMT
#367
On April 20 2016 04:00 FeyFey wrote:
Tracer is easier to control then I thought, still really hard to play and her blink can't go through walls just as i hoped.

The spotlight seemed to indicate as much when she dodged force wall, but good to know.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-19 19:30:36
April 19 2016 19:16 GMT
#368
in the spotlight she blinked around it using 3 blinks heh, also blinked arounds roots instead through them. Just got 3 bombs in a single fight though lol.

LOL I accidently hit E on my mount I was like 3 years away from the team fight.

Kay Uther blocked my Pulse bomb with divine shield, grays out your pulse bomb, but you just gotta charge it new. Also Rip Murky. Puffer Fish just vanishes against Tracer.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-19 19:53:10
April 19 2016 19:43 GMT
#369
Just finished the obligatory "first game no one knows how to play against the new hero so she is totally broken definitely" game. Danced around enemy team all game, got 2x li-ming's hero damage O_O Locked & Loaded on 16 is really silly, since it's super easy to proc it every time once you are used to it. It's almost like playing gall, where you just need to acclimate yourself to randomly hitting a button during fights b/c cho threw a bomb.

edit-> Just checked the MMR of everyone in the game. Jesus, the tracers were each 2500-2700 MMR, everyone else in the game was below 1800. No wonder it was so easy.
Don't Panic
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-19 19:57:02
April 19 2016 19:55 GMT
#370
Found the ultimate conter to Tracer. Malf just Moonfires her to death, nothing she can do.

Patchnotes said, hero level will be taken into account. So low level heroes of you will get easier opponents. So yeah. I hate that change btw.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
April 19 2016 19:56 GMT
#371
On April 20 2016 04:55 FeyFey wrote:
Found the ultimate conter to Tracer. Malf just Moonfires her to death, nothing she can do.


Run away?
Don't Panic
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-19 19:59:48
April 19 2016 19:57 GMT
#372
On April 20 2016 04:43 MotherFox wrote:
edit-> Just checked the MMR of everyone in the game. Jesus, the tracers were each 2500-2700 MMR, everyone else in the game was below 1800. No wonder it was so easy.


that's because new quick match change places you against lower MMR if you are playing a hero you never played before. But it's supposed to be placing you against "slightly" lower mmr.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-19 20:02:02
April 19 2016 20:01 GMT
#373
The why is obvious, but c'mon. a flat minimum level would suffice for QM if they really want to make adjustments or w/e based on your level with the hero.

Just ensure you've played an AI game with the toon and that is it or something. You could do it in try mode even.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 19 2016 20:08 GMT
#374
the Tracer did run away all the time, that why their team lost. Really love Malf with and against her *-* .
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 19 2016 20:10 GMT
#375
Actually if you are higher level with a hero you play against stronger opponents. So my level 16 heroes I play when I want to have fun are now matched against really really good players. So I have to actually take serious talents.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
April 19 2016 20:13 GMT
#376
On April 20 2016 04:57 karazax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 04:43 MotherFox wrote:
edit-> Just checked the MMR of everyone in the game. Jesus, the tracers were each 2500-2700 MMR, everyone else in the game was below 1800. No wonder it was so easy.


that's because new quick match change places you against lower MMR if you are playing a hero you never played before. But it's supposed to be placing you against "slightly" lower mmr.


losing team had lower character levels overall, and their hotslogs mmr average was like 400 under ours. I suspect this is just "new character day matchmaking"
Don't Panic
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-19 20:41:38
April 19 2016 20:36 GMT
#377
I had some abysmal teammates today and the compositions sucked balls as well.
Three times no stun or CC of any real kind on my team vs double/triple stun & CC on the enemy team.
You can guess how that went.

Tracer is fun to play. Blinking around and kiting all day is so much fun and when you combine Blink with Recall you can escape almost any situation. Her damage isn't very high but it is constant so I was usually topping the damage charts though most of it would have been poke damage. Li-Ming and a few other heroes with high burst damage are a good counter since they can just force Tracer to fall back or risk dying to the next burst. Squishy as all hell. Really squishy.

Things to learn is how to use Recall properly when you get engaged at a bad angle and landing the Pulse Bomb consistently. Such a short range. I always get Pulse Rounds at 10 for the faster recharge and additional range.

Also, I heard her attack speed is locked and cannot be boosted. Is this true?

Now if I could only get a team where we actually have some CC on OUR side for once, I might actually win a game today.

Also, to all solo queue Gazlowe players out there. I hate you with a passion. Stop ruining games for four other people by only joining every other teamfight, if you even join them at all. Sigh. He can work with a team built around him. Not in solo queue.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-19 20:49:04
April 19 2016 20:48 GMT
#378
Yeah Tracer is nice and alot to learn with and against her. Still think she is a situational pick though. OOMG you can disable pings from people now Awesome
wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
April 19 2016 21:04 GMT
#379
On April 20 2016 05:36 Thezzy wrote:
Also, to all solo queue Gazlowe players out there. I hate you with a passion.

Yeah, well, I hate you too.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
April 19 2016 21:36 GMT
#380
So tychus is buffed this patch then? Undocumentary change.
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