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DrunkenJedi
Germany175 Posts
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
On August 30 2015 18:00 DrunkenJedi wrote: Is there by now a standard build for Leoric or is it still anticipated? Leoric has been updated now. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
Seems like I dont need to look any further.  | ||
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Wuster
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
On September 09 2015 09:33 Wuster wrote: Does Zeratul really still go Gathering Power? That seems a bit underwhelming after the nerf. Well I should really remove the cleave build, it sucks tbh. The Auto Attack build has been the go-to build for a while now and doesn't get Gathering Power, but in the Double Bombs build it might not be the best anymore. It's hard to say since the other talents don't really mesh well with the build and not too many people play it anymore since AA is superior by far. | ||
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mortales
174 Posts
I noticed that more common Arthas build includes regeneration and stoneskin, I might be mistaken though | ||
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
On September 16 2015 01:13 mortales wrote: Cool to see it is being updated. I noticed that more common Arthas build includes regeneration and stoneskin, I might be mistaken though Regeneration Master and Block are definitely the best 2 options at level one, but which you choose is really dependent on the opponents and the map. Maps like Blackheart's and Garden of Terror offer a lot of Regen Globes to pick up and give Regen Master more value, but on a map like Battlefield of Eternity where you fight over the objective more, you won't get as much benefit from it. Block mainly depends on the opponents. High attack speed opponents (like Sylvanas, Illidan, Zagara) will shred through your charges and it won't mean much, but against heroes like Zeratul or Nova who have high damage autos, it will mitigate a lot. I'm more of a fan of Regeneration Master now, but both are viable. Stoneskin vs Frostmourne Feeds is a bit different since one is damage and one is defense. My perception is that Stoneskin is needed for solo-tank Arthas, while Frostmourne Feeds is better for off-tank Arthas. I think it's preference though. If you are dying get Stoneskin, if not pick more damage. | ||
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mortales
174 Posts
On September 16 2015 02:24 Valiver wrote: Stoneskin vs Frostmourne Feeds is a bit different since one is damage and one is defense. My perception is that Stoneskin is needed for solo-tank Arthas, while Frostmourne Feeds is better for off-tank Arthas. I think it's preference though. If you are dying get Stoneskin, if not pick more damage. but on the other hand, the longer you can be in battle, the more damage you can deal. I tried both the talents and from my experience I'd say that stoneskin is more preferable in any situation. I agree with your point on Regeneration Master and Block. | ||
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
On September 16 2015 20:58 Kotreb wrote: Kael build still the go to one? heard there's been some changes the patch before last but i wasn't bothered since i didn't own him :D Arcane Barrier is more widely used than Backdraft at level 16 now, but everything else is pretty standard. Chain Bomb is just so good. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On September 16 2015 20:58 Kotreb wrote: Kael build still the go to one? heard there's been some changes the patch before last but i wasn't bothered since i didn't own him :D Yeah, he still does a ton of AoE damage, just doesn't 1-shot anyone near the minion wave anymore. | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
Almost every hero I pick there is at least 1 talent choice that is questionable. | ||
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
On September 18 2015 20:47 Markwerf wrote: Too many builds outdated or incorrect in these guides at the moment. Almost every hero I pick there is at least 1 talent choice that is questionable. This doesn't help fix anything. You gotta give feedback not just complain. | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
On September 18 2015 20:47 Markwerf wrote: Too many builds outdated or incorrect in these guides at the moment. Almost every hero I pick there is at least 1 talent choice that is questionable. We are always open to make changes, but you've got to be a little more specific | ||
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Superbanana
2369 Posts
While i don't think variations are necessary for quick talent builds, for most heroes variations in the same build are pretty important. The block/regeneration master on Arthas is an example. Another is tier 7 Tyrande, you can go range on E, battle momentum or mule in any build. All of them are viable regardless of what you got in other tiers, since some circustances take priority over talent synergy. | ||
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
On September 19 2015 02:44 Superbanana wrote: Many talents are questionable because they are circunstantial. While i don't think variations are necessary for quick talent builds, for most heroes variations in the same build are pretty important. The block/regeneration master on Arthas is an example. Another is tier 7 Tyrande, you can go range on E, battle momentum or mule in any build. All of them are viable regardless of what you got in other tiers, since some circustances take priority over talent synergy. Yeah that's what the text box under each hero is for - common variations. In Tyrande's case you bring up a good point about her level 7, I'll try to squeeze that in. | ||
EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
Regeneration Master Focused Attacks First Aid Void Prison Wormhole Rending Cleave Rewind The Koreans have been going Follow Through at level 7 and Stoneskin at level 16 to somewhat even things out, but it might just be an adjustment based on the team compositions and how things are going in the game. Either way, I think you should take a look at these builds and consider finally taking down the Cleave Build (since it's arcane now). | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On October 07 2015 02:17 Larkin wrote: Yess I've been using that sustain build with Zera for a while and now the pros are following my example, right? Obviously ^^. Sidenote: with Stim Drone now in the game, I think this build is going to be even more common since Zeratul can dish out so much auto attack damage. I've been playing around with full auto build with Shadow Assault, which is a lot of fun, but you can just never give up Void Prison against good teams. | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
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