The Blizzard and Frostbolt builds are just for QM fun occasionally, but the Standard Build makes her one of the, if not the, best hero in the game, so I'm not sure what you mean.

Duval

Belgium144 Posts

July 24 2015 22:12 GMT

#29

Just a heads up, the icon for Diablo's Soul Steal talent on lvl 7 seems to be incorrect (it's the the overpower icon right now).

Valiver

Caldeum1977 Posts

July 25 2015 02:33 GMT

#30

On July 25 2015 07:12 Duval wrote:
Just a heads up, the icon for Diablo's Soul Steal talent on lvl 7 seems to be incorrect (it's the the overpower icon right now).

Thanks for pointing that out, apparently there are several sites that have the wrong icon for that one. What I get for trusting them

Superbanana

2369 Posts

July 25 2015 21:19 GMT

#31

First of all, great job!

I think its a step up to what HotsLogs can offer, and a lot of people use it.
But i recommend a guide for those willling to spend some time, many examples of talent choices that are not part of the build. Even if they have some synergy, they are still optional.

Jaina is an example, the frostbolt build is circunstantial, and altough i won't pick Jaina to use this build, sometimes i already picked her and i feel forced into safety.
Its a safe build so even if icy veins has some great synergy, with cooldown reduction for the frostbolt, i always get ice block with this build.
The snowstorm build is also useful, some match ups end with both teams zoned, since none of the teams can safely move in. Rare in pro games and even in HL, but it happens. Against Gazlowe Hammer something and you got nothing to jump in (except the tank). Playing Jaina i would get snowstorm.

I am not good and Jaina is not my main, but thats how i see it.

Its simplistic, but it must be since its supposed to be quick. Just saying there is a lack of information if you wonder if there is something else you should know.

Big-t

Austria1351 Posts

July 26 2015 08:13 GMT

#32

Awesome work! Thank you very much!!

RiZu

Singapore5715 Posts

July 26 2015 09:38 GMT

#33

Damn this is something else. Great work!

YouGotNothin

United States907 Posts

July 26 2015 18:43 GMT

#34

Very nice job, this one post replaces heroesfire and hotslogs and is much easier to use!

Ramiz1989

12124 Posts

July 26 2015 19:57 GMT

#35

On July 27 2015 03:43 YouGotNothin wrote:
Very nice job, this one post replaces heroesfire and hotslogs and is much easier to use!

It doesn't really replaces those sites as you don't know how many people actually uses these builds and some of them are not that good. It lacks any kind of statistics.

Nizaris

Belgium2230 Posts

July 26 2015 21:57 GMT

#36

hopefully he improves them upon feedback

butcher really needs crave flesh at 13 so you can actually hit things and not savage charge. 49% ppl pick it and its the right choice i think.

DarkPlasmaBall

United States46540 Posts

July 26 2015 22:40 GMT

#37

Wow these are awesome *-* Thanks for compiling them!

Ramiz1989

12124 Posts

July 27 2015 01:28 GMT

#38

On July 27 2015 06:57 Nizaris wrote:
hopefully he improves them upon feedback

butcher really needs crave flesh at 13 so you can actually hit things and not savage charge. 49% ppl pick it and its the right choice i think.

I think that Spell Shield is very important for Butcher, at least me and a lot of pros pick it quite often. With the heroes like Kael'Thas and Jaina being top assassins, he feels really squishy against them and Crave Flesh won't help you that much if you are stunned immediately after your charge which happens very often.

I also think that at level 20 Bolt of the Storm is a must, simply because you don't have escape mechanic and you don't have another gap closer since on level 20 a lot of other heroes pick Bolt and can just blink away from you. Unless I am getting Lamb to the Slaughter occasionally, Bolt of the Storm is too valuable to not pick it.

[Phantom]

Mexico2170 Posts

July 27 2015 03:34 GMT

#39

I feel a lot of people are missing the point of this piece.

This guide is meant as a quick guide. Basically, you get a new hero and or aren't sure about a talent, you come check it in a second and you're good to go with a good build. Most of the "standard builds" you see on most heroes were discussed internally and taken from different sources. From the Staff experiences with the heroes, to popular builds on different sites and builds pros have used in their games. Different build from different regions were also taken into account, that's why some of the builds may be slightly different from the builds you're going with. It's important to remember that different doesn't mean wrong though.

Also, there will always be times when taking one talent over the "standard" can be good, and we encourage you to do it if you think it's a better choice, as it very well may be. There is no one build that can cover every situation. On those cases, we are looking to expand and update our dedicated heroes guides. For example, if you guys want to read an awesome and in depth Jaina guide explaining when to take some talents over the others you can read one here.

We appreciate your feedback and we'll be discussing the butcher's guide specifically as our intention is to have this updated and the builds as good as possible, and we’ll update it if necessary

. If you have more feedback don't be afraid to tell us about it.