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MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-14 18:19:22
October 14 2015 18:17 GMT
#421
the medic's grenade disrupts ETC's mosh pit. (Or when I do this, I'm simply knocking him away from the stunned characters?

edit-> shock and awe? do you mean hinterlands blast?
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
October 14 2015 18:44 GMT
#422
Mosh Pit is a stationary channel, any displacement will cancel it. This is true even if you take Party Bus (can powerslide during Mosh Pit).

Shock and Awe was the old name for Hinterlands Blast. Blizzard changed it during Falstad's rework (ie - nerf), which caused him to disappear for a long time so no one bothered to learn the new name =p.
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
October 14 2015 18:47 GMT
#423
On October 15 2015 03:17 MotherFox wrote:
the medic's grenade disrupts ETC's mosh pit. (Or when I do this, I'm simply knocking him away from the stunned characters?

edit-> shock and awe? do you mean hinterlands blast?


Myb, yeah that's the old name. Hinterland Blast used to be the name of the level 20 talent -_-.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 00:54:59
October 15 2015 00:07 GMT
#424
I was doing some grinding in AI games for daily quests, anyone notice more reasonable compositions being put together? Not necessarily the best but I've not had a single game (knock on wood) with multiple healers and there has been a reasonable amount of warriors (1/2) in each game.

I'm hoping it isn't me seeing what I want to see and I haven't played any QM tonight, so I'm hoping to increase my sample size.

EDIT, I jinxed myself
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 15 2015 01:53 GMT
#425
If you powerslide with ETC into an ETC that is using Mosh Pit, do you cancel the Mosh Pit... or get stunned? Can powerslide be interrupted?

These are the questions that decide games
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MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
October 15 2015 02:13 GMT
#426
On October 15 2015 10:53 Larkin wrote:
If you powerslide with ETC into an ETC that is using Mosh Pit, do you cancel the Mosh Pit... or get stunned? Can powerslide be interrupted?

These are the questions that decide games


I know that if two butchers charge each other only one of them gets stunned. #mindblown
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
October 15 2015 02:24 GMT
#427
Like two patches ago they changed powerslide so it didn't made ETC unstopable, so you would get stunned.

One of the most annoying things about that is in ETC mirror matchups where you both powerslide to one another and both end up being stunned.
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Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
October 15 2015 02:38 GMT
#428
Well Mosh Pit applies it's stun repeatedly about every half second, so I think if you time it right you could Powerslide into it to interrupt it, but it would be tough (nearly impossible imo).
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Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
October 15 2015 10:10 GMT
#429
On October 15 2015 09:07 ThomasjServo wrote:
I was doing some grinding in AI games for daily quests, anyone notice more reasonable compositions being put together? Not necessarily the best but I've not had a single game (knock on wood) with multiple healers and there has been a reasonable amount of warriors (1/2) in each game.

I'm hoping it isn't me seeing what I want to see and I haven't played any QM tonight, so I'm hoping to increase my sample size.

EDIT, I jinxed myself


Nope, didn't notice at all. I still have many healers sometime, or no healer and 3 warriors ... Not that it matters vs beginner AI. My only goal is to end it ASAP (5 to 8 mins).
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7301 Posts
October 15 2015 12:53 GMT
#430
On October 15 2015 19:10 Leolio wrote:

Nope, didn't notice at all. I still have many healers sometime, or no healer and 3 warriors ... Not that it matters vs beginner AI. My only goal is to end it ASAP (5 to 8 mins).


A question that i meant to ask a long time ago: Why play AI games? Is this really fun? Or is it just to grind quest gold, but then to what end? Grinding isn't fun, is it? Why even play then?

No judgement, just curiousity
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 15 2015 13:02 GMT
#431
On October 15 2015 21:53 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 19:10 Leolio wrote:

Nope, didn't notice at all. I still have many healers sometime, or no healer and 3 warriors ... Not that it matters vs beginner AI. My only goal is to end it ASAP (5 to 8 mins).


A question that i meant to ask a long time ago: Why play AI games? Is this really fun? Or is it just to grind quest gold, but then to what end? Grinding isn't fun, is it? Why even play then?

No judgement, just curiousity

I don't always have the mental energy or wherewithal to put up with QM or HL BS after I leave the office. AI games are a stress free way to get through my daily quests if I can't put my best foot forward in a regular game.

So for me it is low stress, and low energy stuff. I'll do them while I'm gaining my footing with a hero I just bought as well just to get a better feel for how certain skills work.
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
October 15 2015 13:12 GMT
#432
I do it only to grind. I wait for quests to pile up in my smurf account and then I play 2 or 3 games in a row, wishing I have quests that can be done 2 or 3 at once.
On my main account I almost never do it, but if I see I'm about to waste a quest (3 active quests, end of the day already) I go vs AI and do it quickly. I only want to pay money on skins for my favorite heroes, I won't pay anything else.

Most times I do it while checking emails at work windowed mode in case someone comes to my computer. But if I see I'm with good players I try to be more active and we end the game in 5 or 6 minutes.
I hate playing vs AI but beginner helps me farm quickly and don't hurt my productivity too much.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
October 15 2015 14:58 GMT
#433
The real question is why play AI games when Diablo 3 exists
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
October 15 2015 15:27 GMT
#434
On October 15 2015 21:53 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 19:10 Leolio wrote:

Nope, didn't notice at all. I still have many healers sometime, or no healer and 3 warriors ... Not that it matters vs beginner AI. My only goal is to end it ASAP (5 to 8 mins).


A question that i meant to ask a long time ago: Why play AI games? Is this really fun? Or is it just to grind quest gold, but then to what end? Grinding isn't fun, is it? Why even play then?

No judgement, just curiousity



I often do dailies on my brother's account in addition to my own because he doesn't get to play regularly. It's a good way to get them done fast if I am short on time. Also if I want to try out a hero I have never played before in a more relaxed environment where I can experiment without potentially costing my team the game I will do an AI game.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
October 15 2015 16:14 GMT
#435
So, let's talk HL placement.

I finally finished my ranking matches, and since this was after the patch I could see that I was regularly put with high teens, low 20's players. Cool, I was barely rank 25 pre-wipe.

Finish placement, end up r28. Ok, conservative system, I read their blog post, I get it.

But then I keep playing and I'm still matched with r18-r20 and getting 300 points / win. So what's the point of being conservative for placement if my match making and awarded points are all calculated based on a higher rank? Shouldn't they be putting me against mid 20's players to be on the conservative side? I mean we're talking about a 10 rank difference in my first game, I'm sure the other team was salivating over that (plus my team was probably going "here we go, gg wp match maker" the first time I messed up lol).

Not that I'm complaining, 2 games put me at r23 so it looks like I'll stabilize really quickly.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
October 15 2015 17:31 GMT
#436
On October 16 2015 01:14 Wuster wrote:
So, let's talk HL placement.

I finally finished my ranking matches, and since this was after the patch I could see that I was regularly put with high teens, low 20's players. Cool, I was barely rank 25 pre-wipe.

Finish placement, end up r28. Ok, conservative system, I read their blog post, I get it.

But then I keep playing and I'm still matched with r18-r20 and getting 300 points / win. So what's the point of being conservative for placement if my match making and awarded points are all calculated based on a higher rank? Shouldn't they be putting me against mid 20's players to be on the conservative side? I mean we're talking about a 10 rank difference in my first game, I'm sure the other team was salivating over that (plus my team was probably going "here we go, gg wp match maker" the first time I messed up lol).

Not that I'm complaining, 2 games put me at r23 so it looks like I'll stabilize really quickly.

I think blizzard just has the system place you lower than your true rank just to have people continue to play HL after placements, knowing they can get higher. Also they probably want people to rank up more for a sense of accomplishment.
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Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
October 15 2015 18:41 GMT
#437
All lanes are being soaked. No objectives are up. You are Sonya. When do you start soloing merc camps?
Wat
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
October 15 2015 23:04 GMT
#438
On October 16 2015 03:41 Tenks wrote:
All lanes are being soaked. No objectives are up. You are Sonya. When do you start soloing merc camps?

Level 10, you can do Sieges earlier than that but you will lose quite a bit of health and probably will need to get back to base. Get one other hero and do it since level 3-4, you will have 1 hero per lane for soaking anyway. You can also help clear the wave on one lane and then gank together the other lanes.

If you are getting Mercenary Lord + War Paint you can clear the camps at any time and you can solo the boss at level 10 easily.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 16 2015 00:48 GMT
#439
On October 16 2015 03:41 Tenks wrote:
All lanes are being soaked. No objectives are up. You are Sonya. When do you start soloing merc camps?


Bear in mind when you do them, though. There isn't much point getting a camp onto a lane that has enemy heroes on it - they'll just clear them out. If you can get a camp right as a map objective comes up, it will be far more effectiive - your knights on Sky Temple, for example, around the 4 minute - 4 30 mark, just before the bottom temple pops.
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MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-16 20:02:42
October 16 2015 19:58 GMT
#440
I currently have above a 50% winrate on all maps for the last 30 days of heroleague EXCEPT in dragon shire and tomb of the spiderqueen. On tomb I have a 100% winrate with zeratul, so I think I'm going to start preferring him.

My problem is that on dragonshire I currently have no single hero with over a 50% winrate. I watched a single replay of a game last night and it felt like it was very symbolic of my frustration with the map: there was a pitched fight for dragon for a very long time. Around level 13/14 there was a chain of events: I died, a teammate died, and my friend on voicechat had to back for health all within a 30-40 second window. This resulted in the enemy team getting a dragon knight. We eventually recovered and came back and won the game--- but it made me think that maybe I need to focus more on heroes with sustain on this map?

Is there a good guide to dragonshire from a solo/duo-queue perspective? This used to be my highest winrate map when we could queue with 3/4 people teams on voicechat. Our go-to strategy was to fight for shrines until 10, and at 10 to shift to bottom and push really hard before the enemy could react. This always had good results, but I can't get uncoordinated teams to behave like this.

Without coordination the map feels like herding cats. Cats that are dying slowly over time until a dragon can come eat them.
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