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Any and all updates regarding the COVID-19 will need a source provided. Please do your part in helping us to keep this thread maintainable and under control.

It is YOUR responsibility to fully read through the sources that you link, and you MUST provide a brief summary explaining what the source is about. Do not expect other people to do the work for you.

Conspiracy theories and fear mongering will absolutely not be tolerated in this thread. Expect harsh mod actions if you try to incite fear needlessly.

This is not a politics thread! You are allowed to post information regarding politics if it's related to the coronavirus, but do NOT discuss politics in here.

Added a disclaimer on page 662. Many need to post better.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18631 Posts
July 01 2021 11:57 GMT
#7901
I think its very important to differentiate between being infected or being ill.

We will never get rid of the virus, we just have to live with it and as long as the death rate is low enough its not so bad (which it is with vaccinations and later on some medicine).
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18277 Posts
July 01 2021 12:16 GMT
#7902
On July 01 2021 16:37 Slydie wrote:
The delta way is coming to Europe, mostly among people ages 12-30.

I have 2 questions. Are the vaccines are enough to avoid a dramatic situation?

Secondly, is the priority of vaccines was the correct one, and if it makes sense to give it to the 18-30 group before the 30-40 group and maybe even 40-50? Also, the benefit of going after more likely spreaders instead of the very oldest would have really kicked in now.

At least in Catalonia, vaccinations opened a few days ago for ages 30-34 and today for 16-29, all of this only 1 week after 35-39 was called up. So 16-39 are effectively all being vaccinated at approximately the same time. Obviously on a voluntary basis and for now people are complaining about the signup system not giving them any availability. I got my first jab on Monday, btw. No negative effects.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 01 2021 14:00 GMT
#7903
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
July 01 2021 17:39 GMT
#7904
Source on delta variant being more deadly for younger people?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 01 2021 17:52 GMT
#7905
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22290 Posts
July 01 2021 17:57 GMT
#7906
Its concentrated in young people because all the old people have had their vaccinations. That doesn't say anything about a comparison to other variations or the situation half a year ago.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-01 18:10:25
July 01 2021 18:09 GMT
#7907
I'm pretty sure I heard that as well, that is that the delta variant is more likely to hit children than other variants. But I got no source either.

But anyway there have been several studies about possible long term issues, just recently I read one saying that it's quite possible some people will be more likely to get dementia due to corona. Of course, no need to believe those studies but I wouldn't want to get Covid even if it's likely not going to be bad. Anyway, there have been younger people having more severe cases and even dying, so I don't like people underestimating it.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 01 2021 18:14 GMT
#7908
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-01 18:52:20
July 01 2021 18:43 GMT
#7909
On July 02 2021 03:09 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm pretty sure I heard that as well, that is that the delta variant is more likely to hit children than other variants. But I got no source either.

But anyway there have been several studies about possible long term issues, just recently I read one saying that it's quite possible some people will be more likely to get dementia due to corona. Of course, no need to believe those studies but I wouldn't want to get Covid even if it's likely not going to be bad. Anyway, there have been younger people having more severe cases and even dying, so I don't like people underestimating it.


Children are "more likely to get infected" with the Delta variant when compared to the Alpha variant because it's more transmissible, according to Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

"So it isn't that they (children) are more susceptible, but this virus is a more transmissible virus," Dr. Fauci told CBS This Morning. "Therefore, children will more likely get infected with this than they would with the Alpha variant."


Not sure of his reason for singling out children there if he immediately says they are not more susceptible and Delta is more likely to hit everyone than other variants just because it's more transmissible.

Edit: Of course my contribution to this thread has always been to try to put things in perspective so I will once again post CDC data

Deaths among people age 0 - 29 years old

Deaths from COVID-19: 2,734
Deaths from all causes: 140,047

So children and young adults are still 50 times more likely to die from other causes from COVID-19. If you look at just children under 18 they are over 100 times more likely to die of other causes than from COVID-19.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 01 2021 19:10 GMT
#7910
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-01 19:34:04
July 01 2021 19:20 GMT
#7911
As long as you keep equating arresting people and closing down their businesses with booster seats or seat belts I will continue to put things in perspective.

Also as to "what I am doing" - all I offered was some hard statistics from the CDC that people may not have been aware of. I could come to this thread and post things like "Delta is more deadly than Original COVID for young adults" and then post some shoddy evidence that you quickly googled when I asked for a source.

Polls shows that people are wildly misinformed about COVID-19. A gallup poll showed over 50% of people thought your chance of being hospitalized if you contracted COVID was 25% or higher. The correct answer was 1-5%. How many people do you think can correctly identify that children are 100x more likely to die from other causes than from COVID-19? The fact that people are so misinformed about COVID-19 just shows we need more people like me posting facts and less people like you posting all the "the sky is falling" news.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-01 19:57:57
July 01 2021 19:55 GMT
#7912
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
July 01 2021 20:56 GMT
#7913
Are you asking why it is relevant that people are wildly misinformed about COVID-19?

Also you literally defended the arrest of a man for holding an outdoor public gathering, going as far as to call it a "non-story" because he was being a "pain for the attention." Your words exactly:

It was a pretty non story here for most since he was just being a pain for the attention


You've nonchalantly condoned arresting people that violate COVID orders. Condemn this man's arrest if you're not okay with jailing people over violating COVID health orders.

So to answer your question why is it relevant that people are scared of COVID and think it is 10x more dangerous than it actually is - because if that society wants to jail people for COVID violations they should know exactly how dangerous COVID is.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18277 Posts
July 01 2021 21:16 GMT
#7914
On July 02 2021 03:43 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2021 03:09 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm pretty sure I heard that as well, that is that the delta variant is more likely to hit children than other variants. But I got no source either.

But anyway there have been several studies about possible long term issues, just recently I read one saying that it's quite possible some people will be more likely to get dementia due to corona. Of course, no need to believe those studies but I wouldn't want to get Covid even if it's likely not going to be bad. Anyway, there have been younger people having more severe cases and even dying, so I don't like people underestimating it.


Show nested quote +
Children are "more likely to get infected" with the Delta variant when compared to the Alpha variant because it's more transmissible, according to Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

"So it isn't that they (children) are more susceptible, but this virus is a more transmissible virus," Dr. Fauci told CBS This Morning. "Therefore, children will more likely get infected with this than they would with the Alpha variant."


Not sure of his reason for singling out children there if he immediately says they are not more susceptible and Delta is more likely to hit everyone than other variants just because it's more transmissible.

Edit: Of course my contribution to this thread has always been to try to put things in perspective so I will once again post CDC data

Deaths among people age 0 - 29 years old

Deaths from COVID-19: 2,734
Deaths from all causes: 140,047

So children and young adults are still 50 times more likely to die from other causes from COVID-19. If you look at just children under 18 they are over 100 times more likely to die of other causes than from COVID-19.

Reducing child deaths by 2% sounds like a pretty major fucking deal to me...
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
July 01 2021 21:59 GMT
#7915
On July 02 2021 06:16 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2021 03:43 BlackJack wrote:
On July 02 2021 03:09 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm pretty sure I heard that as well, that is that the delta variant is more likely to hit children than other variants. But I got no source either.

But anyway there have been several studies about possible long term issues, just recently I read one saying that it's quite possible some people will be more likely to get dementia due to corona. Of course, no need to believe those studies but I wouldn't want to get Covid even if it's likely not going to be bad. Anyway, there have been younger people having more severe cases and even dying, so I don't like people underestimating it.


Children are "more likely to get infected" with the Delta variant when compared to the Alpha variant because it's more transmissible, according to Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

"So it isn't that they (children) are more susceptible, but this virus is a more transmissible virus," Dr. Fauci told CBS This Morning. "Therefore, children will more likely get infected with this than they would with the Alpha variant."


Not sure of his reason for singling out children there if he immediately says they are not more susceptible and Delta is more likely to hit everyone than other variants just because it's more transmissible.

Edit: Of course my contribution to this thread has always been to try to put things in perspective so I will once again post CDC data

Deaths among people age 0 - 29 years old

Deaths from COVID-19: 2,734
Deaths from all causes: 140,047

So children and young adults are still 50 times more likely to die from other causes from COVID-19. If you look at just children under 18 they are over 100 times more likely to die of other causes than from COVID-19.

Reducing child deaths by 2% sounds like a pretty major fucking deal to me...


That's for 0-29 year olds. For just children the number is COVID deaths in the US is 326. About the same amount of deaths as a typical flu season. I'm asking people to question why they think a few hundred pediatric deaths from COVID is a "Major fucking deal" when they've gone their entire lives tolerating a few hundred pediatric deaths from the flu every single year without giving it a second thought. COVID is a major fucking deal because of how deadly it is for adults, particularly the elderly. But if it affected adults the same way it affects children I doubt we would even be talking about it.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 01 2021 22:06 GMT
#7916
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 01 2021 22:09 GMT
#7917
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18631 Posts
July 01 2021 23:55 GMT
#7918
Most people including the experts totally ignore the psychological effects of being shut in though which is especially harmful for younger people...
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-02 03:08:49
July 02 2021 03:07 GMT
#7919
On July 02 2021 03:14 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2021 02:57 Gorsameth wrote:
Its concentrated in young people because all the old people have had their vaccinations. That doesn't say anything about a comparison to other variations or the situation half a year ago.

Other than the quote of the study from Scotland saying that it caused 85% more hospitalizations and if I spent more time on google I'd likely find more. . Regardless all the data and doctors agree that vaccination is the key to stopping the spread and keeping those who get it safe.

One person was saying England has given the US now 3 warnings, will they react to the third or again claim not them and end up in the same situation months later. Time will tell but sadly I'm guessing the latter since hospitalizations are back on the rise in the American south and yet vaccinations are not going up and behavior is not changing.

That’s not what I’m seeing, but with the following article it’s hardly surprising that there are far fewer respiratory hospitalisations in Northern summer than in winter.The latest delta outbreak in summer would have brought the fatality rate as percent of cases down substantially.


The Delta variant is not driving a surge in hospitalization rates in England, health data shows.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/01/health/delta-variant-covid-england.html

The Delta variant, which is now responsible for most coronavirus infections in England, is not driving a surge in the rate of hospitalizations there, according to data released by Public Health England on Thursday.

Although the number of coronavirus infections has risen sharply in recent weeks, hospitalization rates remain low. Between June 21 and June 27, the weekly hospitalization rate was 1.9 per 100,000 people, the same as it was the previous week.

The hospitalization rate has increased slightly over the past month, rising from 1.1 admissions per 100,000 people in early June, according to the agency’s data. But it remains considerably lower than during England’s surge last winter, when the hospitalization rate peaked at more than 35 admissions per 100,000 people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-02 06:20:44
July 02 2021 06:17 GMT
#7920
Hospitalization is usually taking a few weeks to kick in, but anyway the vaccination numbers in the UK are pretty great and as such it would be a disaster if the data said otherwise.


I think Russia will have more trouble than the UK because of that, and the numbers are already showing that as well.
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