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On March 30 2021 04:51 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2021 04:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 30 2021 04:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
Seems like a bad time for the CDC to say kids only need half the social distancing (3ft) in the classroom that everyone else needs everywhere else (6ft) and for there to be continued pressure for schools to open.
It's a bad time for the teachers too x.x Indeed. Schools were already in desperate conditions pre-covid. 10's of thousands of schools had inadequate/broken HVAC and unsafe/untested water. 10's of thousands of schools weren't safe for the people in them before covid 19, they certainly aren't safe for them amid what looks to be another wave sending states like Michigan back toward their peak numbers of infection. _______________________________________________________________________ On the Chauvin trial I can't help but think it will end poorly.
Chauvin being acquitted could make the Rodney King police brutality trial backlash look quaint. On some level I hope people are bracing for that to happen, which doesn't exactly feel good to write out. Depending on when the trial is finished finished, there's the possibility of electoral consequences as well. There's nothing Republicans would love more to campaign on during the midterms or leading to 2024 than images of cities and neighbourhoods burning down from riots because Chauvin was acquitted.
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On March 30 2021 05:56 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2021 04:51 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 30 2021 04:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 30 2021 04:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
Seems like a bad time for the CDC to say kids only need half the social distancing (3ft) in the classroom that everyone else needs everywhere else (6ft) and for there to be continued pressure for schools to open.
It's a bad time for the teachers too x.x Indeed. Schools were already in desperate conditions pre-covid. 10's of thousands of schools had inadequate/broken HVAC and unsafe/untested water. 10's of thousands of schools weren't safe for the people in them before covid 19, they certainly aren't safe for them amid what looks to be another wave sending states like Michigan back toward their peak numbers of infection. _______________________________________________________________________ On the Chauvin trial I can't help but think it will end poorly. Chauvin being acquitted could make the Rodney King police brutality trial backlash look quaint. On some level I hope people are bracing for that to happen, which doesn't exactly feel good to write out. Depending on when the trial is finished finished, there's the possibility of electoral consequences as well. There's nothing Republicans would love more to campaign on during the midterms or leading to 2024 than images of cities and neighbourhoods burning down from riots because Chauvin was acquitted.
There's certainly a decent chance of an acquittal. I would bet on (at least one) mistrial here.
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On March 30 2021 05:56 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2021 04:51 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 30 2021 04:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 30 2021 04:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
Seems like a bad time for the CDC to say kids only need half the social distancing (3ft) in the classroom that everyone else needs everywhere else (6ft) and for there to be continued pressure for schools to open.
It's a bad time for the teachers too x.x Indeed. Schools were already in desperate conditions pre-covid. 10's of thousands of schools had inadequate/broken HVAC and unsafe/untested water. 10's of thousands of schools weren't safe for the people in them before covid 19, they certainly aren't safe for them amid what looks to be another wave sending states like Michigan back toward their peak numbers of infection. _______________________________________________________________________ On the Chauvin trial I can't help but think it will end poorly. Chauvin being acquitted could make the Rodney King police brutality trial backlash look quaint. On some level I hope people are bracing for that to happen, which doesn't exactly feel good to write out. Depending on when the trial is finished finished, there's the possibility of electoral consequences as well. There's nothing Republicans would love more to campaign on during the midterms or leading to 2024 than images of cities and neighbourhoods burning down from riots because Chauvin was acquitted.
What makes you think they're not going to use the blm protests footage for years to come already ?
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CDC claiming “impending doom” is a bit odd. Don’t we already have 100 million vaccines in arms? Let alone the argument could be made the most vulnerable population has been hit. There’s no way we are getting a spike
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On March 30 2021 07:17 Husyelt wrote:
CDC claiming “impending doom” is a bit odd. Don’t we already have 100 million vaccines in arms? Let alone the argument could be made the most vulnerable population has been hit. There’s no way we are getting a spike
We do but people are pretending they are already vaccinated. Look at Michigan, for example. Bunch of morons.
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Saw a tweet that said that the USA beat COVID the same way they dealt with the Vietnam war. Decided it was too expensive and pretended it was over.
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On March 30 2021 09:09 Gahlo wrote:
Saw a tweet that said that the USA beat COVID the same way they dealt with the Vietnam war. Decided it was too expensive and pretended it was over.
We're not doing too bad now honestly. There's nearly a dozen countries ahead of us death wise per capita, and we are close to a bunch below us. And I don't trust a good chunk of countries under-reporting.
We are lucky to have the fantastic vaccine development and decent rollout. Biden's administration still making Covid a top priority even at the press and outreach level is much better now.
I will concede that Americans are pretty piss poor at giving up "muh freedoms." Funny to think but those things would have been worse under a Clinton administration. Just imagine the conspiracies and fear mongering with both the State and Federal levels clamping down on peoples lives. I believe we would have had rogue small towns not obeying any of the orders and mandates. Then you can start talking about some actual insurrection crap, or even heightened antifa/patriot prayer nonsense.
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I just got back from a trip to Alabama and I must say I was impressed by the number of people wearing masks. I was expecting the majority to not be wearing any but I would estimate a solid 80-90% in the areas I visited. To be fair they werent rural, but even stopping for gas in a small town off the highway they had masks.
It seems like at least in the interest of self preservation most are complying.
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On March 30 2021 09:09 Gahlo wrote:
Saw a tweet that said that the USA beat COVID the same way they dealt with the Vietnam war. Decided it was too expensive and pretended it was over.
Remarkable how much better Vietnam did than the US in both that war and dealing with COVID despite having only a fraction of the resources.
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Remarkable how much help North Vietnam got with China aiding them to defeat South Vietnam. But I won't quibble on the details.
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I guess it's sort of implied in the analogy that we even had to get involved in the first place, unless they think the US should have taken zero approach to combating COVID. But hey it's a tweet about half measures that only half fits, so it seems fitting overall.
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On March 30 2021 09:45 Sadist wrote:
I just got back from a trip to Alabama and I must say I was impressed by the number of people wearing masks. I was expecting the majority to not be wearing any but I would estimate a solid 80-90% in the areas I visited. To be fair they werent rural, but even stopping for gas in a small town off the highway they had masks.
It seems like at least in the interest of self preservation most are complying.
I live in Texas and most everyone wears masks in the area I live in. Sometimes it's hard to remember, but most people don't make up the people we see on the news or in videos on the internet, right or left. Most people just kind of go with the flow. They hear we need to wear masks for a while and they do it.
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Oregon is very good with mask wearing for the most part. Some of the business's don't give a rat's ass, but in general most put on a mask if there is an interaction to be had.
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On March 30 2021 11:40 Husyelt wrote:
Oregon is very good with mask wearing for the most part. Some of the business's don't give a rat's ass, but in general most put on a mask if there is an interaction to be had.
I'm also from Oregon and this is my experience as well. Some of the rural towns are like total dogshit but as long as you stay in the good areas, very good mask adherence.
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On March 30 2021 05:41 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2021 04:45 Artisreal wrote:
He's also said the Chauvin only did what he was trained for during the 19 years of service.
Harrowing statement. This is definitely true, but if he gets off on THAT then I feel like the department itself is super liable and ripe for a lawsuit, right? It also wouldn't be an excuse that would work for anyone else (imagine a mob enforcer/hitman claiming his culture made him do it). If the other statement is true (that onlookers made them incapable of not killing people) then they're so incompetent that we need to fine whatever the middle school is that clearly passed them negligently.
Well there is also this little precedent "The Nuremberg trials" (and similiar) that established that "just doing what You are told" doesnt protect You from punishment. And yeah, I know, that it was international law and military tribunal but i think since then most countries included this principle into their penel code/justice system.
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On March 30 2021 12:08 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2021 11:40 Husyelt wrote:
Oregon is very good with mask wearing for the most part. Some of the business's don't give a rat's ass, but in general most put on a mask if there is an interaction to be had. I'm also from Oregon and this is my experience as well. Some of the rural towns are like total dogshit but as long as you stay in the good areas, very good mask adherence.
It makes total sense too, it is much easier to control the virus in smaller towns.
Unfortunately, the virus almost exclusively spreads behind closed doors, so the mask-wearing you see is generally irrelevant.
The combination of vaccines and previous cases might be enough to control the virus from now on, almost no matter what is done and not. I am actually hoping for the best for the US.
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On March 30 2021 19:53 Slydie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2021 12:08 Mohdoo wrote:On March 30 2021 11:40 Husyelt wrote:
Oregon is very good with mask wearing for the most part. Some of the business's don't give a rat's ass, but in general most put on a mask if there is an interaction to be had. I'm also from Oregon and this is my experience as well. Some of the rural towns are like total dogshit but as long as you stay in the good areas, very good mask adherence. It makes total sense too, it is much easier to control the virus in smaller towns. Unfortunately, the virus almost exclusively spreads behind closed doors, so the mask-wearing you see is generally irrelevant. The combination of vaccines and previous cases might be enough to control the virus from now on, almost no matter what is done and not. I am actually hoping for the best for the US.
It’s much easier to control but when the people are notably worse, it doesn’t matter. Oregon had its biggest outbreaks in rural communities.
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On March 30 2021 23:26 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2021 09:49 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 30 2021 09:09 Gahlo wrote:
Saw a tweet that said that the USA beat COVID the same way they dealt with the Vietnam war. Decided it was too expensive and pretended it was over. Remarkable how much better Vietnam did than the US in both that war and dealing with COVID despite having only a fraction of the resources. Dictatorships have all been doing "great" with Covid. The question is whether they are doing "great" because they actually are, or because they control the message with a iron first? And if they are doing great if the cost of their methods are worth it. In Vietnam where you can get 20 years in prison and or a vicious beat down for singing a song that has not been approved or being a environmental activist can lead to 20 years in prison, which means they have different "tools" to get people to follow the "rules". https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/11/15/digital-dictatorship-in-vietnam-seeks-to-silence-dissidentsAlso, comparing the US and Vietnam on Covid is super strange, not only because they are such wildly different countries but doing better then the US is not exactly the bar I would look to meet. As for the, did remarkably better in the war comment.... just classless. That was a war, like most where everyone lost, especially the Vietnamese people (estimates at 1.5-3.5 million Vietnamese and 282 thousand US and allies). And they have been losing since as well since the promise of a communist dream ended up in a totalitarian nightmare. https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2019/country-chapters/vietnam#
I'm also having a hard time finding how much vaccine doses they have been manufacturing compared to the US
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