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FlaShFTW
United States10347 Posts
On January 06 2021 13:32 IyMoon wrote: CNN just had someone from Chattam saying only 3k left to count, and will be counted tomorrow. I wonder where the difference is My guy do you trust CNN or the TL Decision Desk with FlaShFTW? cmon. You're on Teamliquid, not CNN forums. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10347 Posts
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StalkerTL
212 Posts
On January 06 2021 13:36 IyMoon wrote: So if dems pull off both, what does this say for Trump? Does he lose a lot of pull? He was in GA trying to get this win, and hes getting handed another L I think its clear that there's several things based on the last 4 years: - A lot of people in rural areas turn out like mad for Trump and Trump alone. They did so in 2016 and 2020, they didn't really do so in 2018. They are incredibly soft in rural areas in this election, despite Trump trying to juice up the vote. - This fucked up a lot of polling in 2016 and 2020 because the same people are non-responders. The only place where this wasn't wrong was in Iowa where Ann Selzer seems to be a respected enough pollster than they actually respond to her. - Since Biden has shown that Georgia isn't actually that red but disenfranchised to hell and back, there's been a surge of turnout in urban hubs for Ossoff and Warnock. It seems more and more that Trump is basically Jesus Christ to a lot of rural voters. He's less so an actual person but a set of ideas and a weapon to beat down on the left. If he isn't in a position of power to own the Republicans or Democrats, they don't seem to interested in what he wants. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
It looks like Ossoff win either way but if the 99% counted from DDHQ is correct it would stay within recount margin. | ||
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StalkerTL
212 Posts
On January 06 2021 13:43 Toadesstern wrote: i find it a bit odd than Decision Desk has it at 99% counted with the difference being at 1k votes while NYT has it at 95% countet with 400 votes difference. It looks like Ossoff win either way but if the 99% counted from DDHQ is correct it would stay within recount margin. Ossoff seems to be able to get a decent enough lead that a recount isn't going to do much. Recounting is a formality but doesn't really change results unless they're incredibly close like Florida 2000. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 06 2021 13:45 StalkerTL wrote: Ossoff seems to be able to get a decent enough lead that a recount isn't going to do much. Recounting is a formality but doesn't really change results unless they're incredibly close like Florida 2000. true, but being outside of recount margin would shut people up. If you guys have Ossoff vs Perdue within recount margin this whole thing is going to continue with shitty arguments that noone wants to hear about anymore. What I'm saying is "let us be done with it" more than anything else | ||
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StalkerTL
212 Posts
On January 06 2021 13:47 Toadesstern wrote: true, but being outside of recount margin would shut people up. If you guys have Ossoff vs Perdue within recount margin this whole thing is going to continue with shitty arguments that noone wants to hear about anymore. What I'm saying is "let us be done with it" more than anything else Let's be honest, if the result is anything but Perdue winning you're going to have Republicans in office spending the next few months wondering where Democrats are pulling these votes from. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
The Ossoff flip is only a matter of time at this point since almost all remaining votes are straight D votes. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
They're no New York, that's for sure. On January 06 2021 13:47 Toadesstern wrote: true, but being outside of recount margin would shut people up. If you guys have Ossoff vs Perdue within recount margin this whole thing is going to continue with shitty arguments that noone wants to hear about anymore. What I'm saying is "let us be done with it" more than anything else If November 2020 taught us anything it's that the margin is irrelevant to the people in the GOP currently making the most noise. They insist they won both Wisconsin and Michigan for pete's sake. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15742 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On January 06 2021 14:00 LegalLord wrote: I do want to give credit to Georgia for doing what appears to be a really solid job of counting votes in a timely fashion. Done a hell of a lot better than certain states on election day back in November. The Ossoff flip is only a matter of time at this point since almost all remaining votes are straight D votes. Look, we tried, but we had a massive amount of mail in votes the the Republican state congress wouldn't change the laws - all of them couldn't be counted until election day. -.- | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On January 06 2021 14:05 Mohdoo wrote: What do people think, would this be happening if Mitch allowed 2k checks? With the amount of early voting involved? I'm not sure how much it could have affected. Maybe if waaaaay back in November he'd put something through. But there is a lot of blame to go around the GOP deck on this one. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On January 06 2021 14:05 Mohdoo wrote: What do people think, would this be happening if Mitch allowed 2k checks? I don't think the free money checks flipped anywhere near as many votes as the overall waffling on stimulus and the tasteless voter fraud accusations. So yes, I'd expect things to be the same. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45382 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45382 Posts
On January 06 2021 13:09 Zambrah wrote: The question for Republicans is do they lean into MAGA and hope that Trumpless MAGA keeps MAGA voters and base Republicans, or go generic Republican and hope to pick candidates that may appeal to Latino voters more heavily imo. They have a litany of gross candidates like Ted Cruz to field though, I actually don't find them lacking in people to throw up for presidential elections compared to Democrats. I don't know if Cruz is likable enough, but I'm actually really worried about someone like Tucker Carlson. I don't know if Carlson wants to run, but he's backed by Fox, has done a great job of appealing to both Trump supporters and establishment conservatives, and he's actually a really good debater irl. | ||
KwarK
United States43750 Posts
On January 06 2021 15:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I had heard rumors that a lot of Trump supporters were talking about not voting and purposely sabotaging the Republican party in these special elections, as payback for the establishment not entirely supporting Trump's temper tantrums about election fraud and trying to stay as president. Thoughts? It seems that both of these special elections are really close. I doubt it had much impact. It’s the kind of amusing ironic clickbait story that leftists make up about rightists to laugh at them. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15742 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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