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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24384 Posts
December 15 2014 10:48 GMT
#161
Interesting to see the #IWillRideWithYou trending. I think that is actually a big blow to the propaganda war of radicals.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 15 2014 10:48 GMT
#162
Oh i see, so it is just out of the major cities there might be a racial problem. Probably like most countries.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 15 2014 10:51 GMT
#163
On December 15 2014 19:48 Pandemona wrote:
Oh i see, so it is just out of the major cities there might be a racial problem. Probably like most countries.

I think in general the more homogeneous the community the greater the problem of racism
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ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
December 15 2014 10:52 GMT
#164
Yeah, it'll be hard to get a job in Sydney if you have a problem with Asians.

But rural areas are more racially homogeneous, so there's a bit more prejudice.
sths
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Australia192 Posts
December 15 2014 10:53 GMT
#165
lol aussie racists are nothing compared to asian racists.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 15 2014 10:54 GMT
#166
Yeah ok thats good, it is not as bad as i thought i read/heard.
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
December 15 2014 10:56 GMT
#167
On December 15 2014 19:54 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah ok thats good, it is not as bad as i thought i read/heard.

You've got to stop reading English tabloids pande
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 15 2014 10:57 GMT
#168
Haha yeah >.<
Beginning to think England is the new Russia/North Korea in terms of what is portrayed by our press!
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SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
December 15 2014 11:04 GMT
#169
Italian news report that 4 armed men are holding a hostage in Belgium :O
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24384 Posts
December 15 2014 11:07 GMT
#170
On December 15 2014 20:04 SoSexy wrote:
Italian news report that 4 armed men are holding a hostage in Belgium :O


The only similarity is that they both have at least 1 hostage and a weapon, otherwise I don't see any sort of connection.

Local prosecutors said there was no indication of any link to terrorism or jihadist group Islamic State.

"This isn't the same sort of incident as the events in Sydney," spokeswoman Annemie Serlippens said.

Ghent resident Ruben Denys, who was within the police cordon, told the BBC: "There are police officers around the building, at the back and on people's terraces. A truck has arrived with ladders. They have guns."

Belgian TV said that another siege had taken place in Ghent in October, involving a man implicated in an earlier hostage-taking. That incident involved an unpaid debt, it reported.


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"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
LilClinkin
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Australia667 Posts
December 15 2014 11:08 GMT
#171
Regarding racism in Australia, it depends on where you are and who you're talking with. White (when I say white, I generally mean Anglosaxon, loves cricket and/or footy as a stereotype) Australians from all economic classes can still be fairly racist in their spoken attitudes towards anyone who isn't white. This is more prevalent in the rural areas where the populations are still at least 90% white. In the CBD areas there is a massive diversity of ethnic backgrounds, with significant representations from Anglo, Greek, Italian, Chinese, Vietnamese, Malaysian, Indian and Sri-Lankan peoples.

Racist attitudes are seen in virtually every society though, to varying degrees. I wouldn't say Australia is particularly racist. Certainly, acts of violence and overt discrimination aren't common.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
December 15 2014 11:09 GMT
#172
On December 15 2014 20:04 SoSexy wrote:
Italian news report that 4 armed men are holding a hostage in Belgium :O

Doesn't sound like it's related to islamists tho

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30478231
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SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 11:16:08
December 15 2014 11:12 GMT
#173
Stop implying that he is a nut job, he's just being a good Muslim.

You can't act like a liberal, tolerant person and then condemn the action of someone who just adheres to the religion you defend. It's literally in the job description to use subversion and violence against infidels, women and gays, so you're being really unfair here.

User was temp banned for this post.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
December 15 2014 11:20 GMT
#174
On December 15 2014 20:12 SixStrings wrote:
Stop implying that he is a nut job, he's just being a good Muslim.

You can't act like a liberal, tolerant person and then condemn the action of someone who just adheres to the religion you defend. It's literally in the job description to use subversion and violence against infidels, women and gays, so you're being really unfair here.

Wait, are you saying that being a muslim implies hating infidels, women and gays? I try to not read your post in that context and I think I might've missed something. Would you elaborate?
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
December 15 2014 11:21 GMT
#175
stay strong aussies!

also a great gesture with the #Illridewithyou, not letting society be torn apart by a few loons should help stifle the recruitment efforts by ISIS significantly.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24384 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 11:43:27
December 15 2014 11:23 GMT
#176
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On December 15 2014 20:12 SixStrings wrote:
Stop implying that he is a nut job, he's just being a good Muslim.

You can't act like a liberal, tolerant person and then condemn the action of someone who just adheres to the religion you defend. It's literally in the job description to use subversion and violence against infidels, women and gays, so you're being really unfair here.

User was temp banned for this post.


I can't help but feel every time someone smears all of Islam because of attacks like these they are helping the terrorists get what they want.

Think about it... Which would upset/help a terrorist more...

1) Denying at every opportunity and from every related authority figure that their goals have any real justification from the religion of hundreds of millions of relatively peaceful people who practice it, and constantly undermining the underpinnings from which they draw their justifications...?

Or....

2) Willingly entering the narrative they have created to describe the minds of their enemies, claiming that the problem isn't (just) their tactics but more importantly their religion, recognizing and giving credibility to their notion that their holy book tells them to do what they are doing, and using language they want you to like "Jihad" or accepting their corruption of the phrase "Allahu Akbar"?


They randomly reported people wondering if they should take their children out of daycare... Where's that coming from?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
December 15 2014 11:26 GMT
#177
On December 15 2014 20:12 SixStrings wrote:
Stop implying that he is a nut job, he's just being a good Muslim.

You can't act like a liberal, tolerant person and then condemn the action of someone who just adheres to the religion you defend. It's literally in the job description to use subversion and violence against infidels, women and gays, so you're being really unfair here.

Just like Christianity and Judaism, there are many different kinds of Islam. A majority of all religious people are people like you and me, people who wake up in the morning, drive to work and want to get home in time to spend some time with their kids.

Also: https://www.opendemocracy.net/can-europe-make-it/jaafar-alloul/belgian-jihadists-in-syria-alienation-consumption-power


SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
December 15 2014 11:36 GMT
#178
Let's not derail this thread into a religious debate (which would be cool, but ot)
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Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
December 15 2014 11:39 GMT
#179
The perception of Western New Left Terror vs Islamic Terror
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We have to remember that radical political Islam does not represent all of Islam because not all Muslims do not use Islam as a means of identifying themselves politically and the ones that do are the typical parliamentary conservatives that can be found in many other nations. The overwhelming majority of people leading the fight against Islamism in the Middle East are secular nationalists which should speak for itself about the idea of a universal Islam.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24384 Posts
December 15 2014 12:40 GMT
#180
CNN Reporting that the "Hostages escaped" they didn't specify which or how many.

They also reported that "the gunman was agitated" afterwords.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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