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On December 15 2014 23:43 Jockmcplop wrote:
Watching ABC news right now i'm seeing interviews with your average muslims condemning this. I have never really seen that in England.
It's probably what every nation has said before it happens but 95% of Australians get along with Muslims just fine. I mean we have those idiots who caused the riots at Cronulla a few years back but we generally don't have a problem at all. Hell check out twitter, even with this a lot of us are using the hashtag #IllRideWithYou for those muslims worried of reprisals
More Hostages just came out
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5 more hostages seen running out.
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On December 15 2014 23:13 ahswtini wrote:
sounds more and more like the actions of a lone nutjob taken without much preparation or thought, with a sprinkling of islamism to draw more attention to himself.
I wouldn't go that far as to discount his religious motivations just because thus far he has shown himself to be a less than effective terrorist.
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On December 15 2014 23:38 GreenHorizons wrote:
This guy is seeming less and less like some radical terrorist and more and more like some random tweaked out vagrant type.
I was skeptical of a bomb from the get go, but at this point I don't even think he has a real gun. Who keeps their gun in their backpack and opens it to 'scare away' people... The guy couldn't get the right flag I sincerely doubt he got a real functioning gun (might be a single shot/double barrel shotgun, that would be class A right Aussies?)
This seems like a pretty easygoing situation as far as hostage negotiations go but it's disconcerting to see the media fumble over what to release and what not to release. I imagine the arguments raging between the marketing people and the news people.
Marketing:"Everyone wants to know his name. We could be the ones to tell millions of people first!"...
News:You sick F***! He wants the fame and you want to give it to him so you can sell a fu**ing banner AD!?!..."
Marketing:No you prehistoric pencil pusher! I want to make sure we blah blah The Newsroom"
News: Just because I don't tweet pictures of my dumps doesn't mean I don't know quality news. What good is a news outlet if all we do is appeal to the lowest common denominator
Marketing: Too late, those jerks at _____ beat us to it.
News: Well we might as well report it too now...
News: **turns to an intern** WTF is a banner ad anyway?!?"
The news outlets appear to have been really good. They have been contacted by hostages with a list of demands that they have published. They know the names of several of the hostages but have not published them. They have also only released the name of the gunman after the police have given them the go ahead.
By the sound of it, they know a fair bit more than is being said but are playing it by the book.
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Bomb Squad guy is dressed and near the fire escape that many of the hostages have been coming from. Think this is just about over.
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On December 16 2014 00:12 GreenAndOrangeTurtle wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 23:38 GreenHorizons wrote:
This guy is seeming less and less like some radical terrorist and more and more like some random tweaked out vagrant type.
I was skeptical of a bomb from the get go, but at this point I don't even think he has a real gun. Who keeps their gun in their backpack and opens it to 'scare away' people... The guy couldn't get the right flag I sincerely doubt he got a real functioning gun (might be a single shot/double barrel shotgun, that would be class A right Aussies?)
This seems like a pretty easygoing situation as far as hostage negotiations go but it's disconcerting to see the media fumble over what to release and what not to release. I imagine the arguments raging between the marketing people and the news people.
Marketing:"Everyone wants to know his name. We could be the ones to tell millions of people first!"...
News:You sick F***! He wants the fame and you want to give it to him so you can sell a fu**ing banner AD!?!..."
Marketing:No you prehistoric pencil pusher! I want to make sure we blah blah The Newsroom"
News: Just because I don't tweet pictures of my dumps doesn't mean I don't know quality news. What good is a news outlet if all we do is appeal to the lowest common denominator
Marketing: Too late, those jerks at _____ beat us to it.
News: Well we might as well report it too now...
News: **turns to an intern** WTF is a banner ad anyway?!?" The news outlets appear to have been really good. They have been contacted by hostages with a list of demands that they have published. They know the names of several of the hostages but have not published them. They have also only released the name of the gunman after the police have given them the go ahead. By the sound of it, they know a fair bit more than is being said but are playing it by the book.
Oh I guess I wasn't clear I wasn't talking about Australian media (I am only seeing one channel and have no idea which online sites are reputable). I was talking about media outside of Australia. CNN had a guest 'accidentally' revealed the name about a half hour before they officially reported it.
This is just about over.
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damn i just turned on the TV and it was still going on. I went to bed when it started.
And then... Call of duty
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Paramedics inside and at the rear exit.
Hoping for minimal collateral and a dead or captured theocrat.
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On December 16 2014 00:16 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 00:12 GreenAndOrangeTurtle wrote:On December 15 2014 23:38 GreenHorizons wrote:
This guy is seeming less and less like some radical terrorist and more and more like some random tweaked out vagrant type.
I was skeptical of a bomb from the get go, but at this point I don't even think he has a real gun. Who keeps their gun in their backpack and opens it to 'scare away' people... The guy couldn't get the right flag I sincerely doubt he got a real functioning gun (might be a single shot/double barrel shotgun, that would be class A right Aussies?)
This seems like a pretty easygoing situation as far as hostage negotiations go but it's disconcerting to see the media fumble over what to release and what not to release. I imagine the arguments raging between the marketing people and the news people.
Marketing:"Everyone wants to know his name. We could be the ones to tell millions of people first!"...
News:You sick F***! He wants the fame and you want to give it to him so you can sell a fu**ing banner AD!?!..."
Marketing:No you prehistoric pencil pusher! I want to make sure we blah blah The Newsroom"
News: Just because I don't tweet pictures of my dumps doesn't mean I don't know quality news. What good is a news outlet if all we do is appeal to the lowest common denominator
Marketing: Too late, those jerks at _____ beat us to it.
News: Well we might as well report it too now...
News: **turns to an intern** WTF is a banner ad anyway?!?" The news outlets appear to have been really good. They have been contacted by hostages with a list of demands that they have published. They know the names of several of the hostages but have not published them. They have also only released the name of the gunman after the police have given them the go ahead. By the sound of it, they know a fair bit more than is being said but are playing it by the book. Oh I guess I wasn't clear I wasn't talking about Australian media (I am only seeing one channel and have no idea which online sites are reputable). I was talking about media outside of Australia. CNN had a guest 'accidentally' revealed the name about a half hour before they officially reported it. This is just about over.
Fair enough. On the ABC they were talking to a guy in the US that mentioned that several international news outlets were irresponsibly speculating about things. He didn't mention exactly what they were saying but he wasn't too impressed.
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It sounds like the gunman fired some rounds then the police reached him and blew him away.
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2 stretchers coming out, they didn't look like the gunman
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On December 16 2014 00:12 GreenAndOrangeTurtle wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 23:38 GreenHorizons wrote:
This guy is seeming less and less like some radical terrorist and more and more like some random tweaked out vagrant type.
I was skeptical of a bomb from the get go, but at this point I don't even think he has a real gun. Who keeps their gun in their backpack and opens it to 'scare away' people... The guy couldn't get the right flag I sincerely doubt he got a real functioning gun (might be a single shot/double barrel shotgun, that would be class A right Aussies?)
This seems like a pretty easygoing situation as far as hostage negotiations go but it's disconcerting to see the media fumble over what to release and what not to release. I imagine the arguments raging between the marketing people and the news people.
Marketing:"Everyone wants to know his name. We could be the ones to tell millions of people first!"...
News:You sick F***! He wants the fame and you want to give it to him so you can sell a fu**ing banner AD!?!..."
Marketing:No you prehistoric pencil pusher! I want to make sure we blah blah The Newsroom"
News: Just because I don't tweet pictures of my dumps doesn't mean I don't know quality news. What good is a news outlet if all we do is appeal to the lowest common denominator
Marketing: Too late, those jerks at _____ beat us to it.
News: Well we might as well report it too now...
News: **turns to an intern** WTF is a banner ad anyway?!?" The news outlets appear to have been really good. They have been contacted by hostages with a list of demands that they have published. They know the names of several of the hostages but have not published them. They have also only released the name of the gunman after the police have given them the go ahead. By the sound of it, they know a fair bit more than is being said but are playing it by the book. Non-australian news outlets have been pretty depressing honestly
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Damn that footage inside the building from the windows
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On December 16 2014 00:24 foxmeep wrote:
It sounds like the gunman fired some rounds then the police reached him and blew him away.
If what looked like gunfire to me actually was, they must of shot a loooot of rounds. Don't think it could of been less than 50 in at least 2 separate bursts.
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On December 16 2014 00:28 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 00:24 foxmeep wrote:
It sounds like the gunman fired some rounds then the police reached him and blew him away. If what looked like gunfire to me actually was, they must of shot a loooot of rounds. Don't think it could of been less than 50 in at least 2 separate bursts.
I think all those flashes are from the grenades actually. Sounds like they only shot a few rounds on initial entry.
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