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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51593 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 12:56:36
December 15 2014 12:56 GMT
#181
Video of Hostage Demands (1)

not sure where it came from
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SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
December 15 2014 13:05 GMT
#182
Are the bombs confirmed? Because otherwise if there are 50 people vs 1 man, even if he has a full mag they could overwhelm him. Of course it is not that simple, because noone wants to be the one who gets shot :S
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
December 15 2014 13:13 GMT
#183
On December 15 2014 22:05 SoSexy wrote:
Are the bombs confirmed? Because otherwise if there are 50 people vs 1 man, even if he has a full mag they could overwhelm him. Of course it is not that simple, because noone wants to be the one who gets shot :S


They won't say, probably because even if they're 99.9999999 percent sure there isn't they can't come out in the media and say "you're full of shit" or he might get pissed and start turning hostages into dead bodies, same reason they don't go in, because that full clip might be turned on them if he decides "Fuck it. At least I'll take these people with me"
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
December 15 2014 13:14 GMT
#184
I have strong doubts about explosives. This tard is such a shitty terrorist.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51593 Posts
December 15 2014 13:16 GMT
#185
Not even a terrorist at this point, just an idiot with a shotgun.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
December 15 2014 13:25 GMT
#186
On December 15 2014 22:05 SoSexy wrote:
Are the bombs confirmed? Because otherwise if there are 50 people vs 1 man, even if he has a full mag they could overwhelm him. Of course it is not that simple, because noone wants to be the one who gets shot :S

easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are (unless you currently happen to be held hostage by a person with a gun)
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
December 15 2014 13:42 GMT
#187
well, the government's priority is to make sure none of the hostages come to harm. so even if they outnumber him 1000 to 1. They wouldn't take the risk of storming the building.
GreenAndOrangeTurtle
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia193 Posts
December 15 2014 13:44 GMT
#188
On December 15 2014 21:40 GreenHorizons wrote:
CNN Reporting that the "Hostages escaped" they didn't specify which or how many.

They also reported that "the gunman was agitated" afterwords.


5 has escaped so far.
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
December 15 2014 13:48 GMT
#189
On December 15 2014 22:44 GreenAndOrangeTurtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 21:40 GreenHorizons wrote:
CNN Reporting that the "Hostages escaped" they didn't specify which or how many.

They also reported that "the gunman was agitated" afterwords.


5 has escaped so far.


Did they confirm the two females escaped? I know the first 3 did
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GreenAndOrangeTurtle
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia193 Posts
December 15 2014 13:50 GMT
#190
On December 15 2014 21:56 GTR wrote:
Video of Hostage Demands (1)

not sure where it came from


The Guardian are reporting that the gunman is attempting to bypass traditional media because they aren't posting his demands.

The video has been taken down from Youtube but is being reposted.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein
GreenAndOrangeTurtle
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia193 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 14:12:38
December 15 2014 13:53 GMT
#191
On December 15 2014 22:48 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 22:44 GreenAndOrangeTurtle wrote:
On December 15 2014 21:40 GreenHorizons wrote:
CNN Reporting that the "Hostages escaped" they didn't specify which or how many.

They also reported that "the gunman was agitated" afterwords.


5 has escaped so far.


Did they confirm the two females escaped? I know the first 3 did


They haven't confirmed whether they have escaped or been let go as far as I am aware. It seems that they escaped but iI don't think there has been an official confirmation.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein
GreenAndOrangeTurtle
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia193 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 14:07:07
December 15 2014 14:03 GMT
#192
ABC have just named the gunman as Man Haron Monis. Apparently he is an Iranian cleric and is on bail for being an accessory to the murder of his ex wife amongst other charges.

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Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
December 15 2014 14:13 GMT
#193
This religion is just god awful.

User was temp banned for this post.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
December 15 2014 14:13 GMT
#194
sounds more and more like the actions of a lone nutjob taken without much preparation or thought, with a sprinkling of islamism to draw more attention to himself.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
December 15 2014 14:20 GMT
#195
On December 15 2014 23:13 Tien wrote:
This religion is just god awful.

Same can be said for your logic.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9845 Posts
December 15 2014 14:25 GMT
#196
Yeah the worst thing about this is that people are going to look at all the chaos it has caused, and see how its a great way to get attention.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23932 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 14:42:54
December 15 2014 14:38 GMT
#197
This guy is seeming less and less like some radical terrorist and more and more like some random tweaked out vagrant type.

I was skeptical of a bomb from the get go, but at this point I don't even think he has a real gun. Who keeps their gun in their backpack and opens it to 'scare away' people... The guy couldn't get the right flag I sincerely doubt he got a real functioning gun (might be a single shot/double barrel shotgun, that would be class A right Aussies?)

This seems like a pretty easygoing situation as far as hostage negotiations go but it's disconcerting to see the media fumble over what to release and what not to release. I imagine the arguments raging between the marketing people and the news people.

Marketing:"Everyone wants to know his name. We could be the ones to tell millions of people first!"...

News:You sick F***! He wants the fame and you want to give it to him so you can sell a fu**ing banner AD!?!..."

Marketing:No you prehistoric pencil pusher! I want to make sure we blah blah The Newsroom"

News:
Just because I don't tweet pictures of my dumps doesn't mean I don't know quality news. What good is a news outlet if all we do is appeal to the lowest common denominator

Marketing: Too late, those jerks at _____ beat us to it.

News: Well we might as well report it too now...

News: **turns to an intern** WTF is a banner ad anyway?!?"
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9845 Posts
December 15 2014 14:43 GMT
#198
Watching ABC news right now i'm seeing interviews with your average muslims condemning this. I have never really seen that in England.
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
December 15 2014 15:02 GMT
#199
On December 15 2014 23:43 Jockmcplop wrote:
Watching ABC news right now i'm seeing interviews with your average muslims condemning this. I have never really seen that in England.


yeah. about time that happens. and more importantly, we need to support and nurture these voices in the west. the smart way to beat those IS fucks and reduce them to the faction of fundamentalist losers they are.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 15 2014 15:03 GMT
#200
On December 15 2014 23:38 GreenHorizons wrote:
This guy is seeming less and less like some radical terrorist and more and more like some random tweaked out vagrant type.

I was skeptical of a bomb from the get go, but at this point I don't even think he has a real gun. Who keeps their gun in their backpack and opens it to 'scare away' people... The guy couldn't get the right flag I sincerely doubt he got a real functioning gun (might be a single shot/double barrel shotgun, that would be class A right Aussies?)

This seems like a pretty easygoing situation as far as hostage negotiations go but it's disconcerting to see the media fumble over what to release and what not to release. I imagine the arguments raging between the marketing people and the news people.

Marketing:"Everyone wants to know his name. We could be the ones to tell millions of people first!"...

News:You sick F***! He wants the fame and you want to give it to him so you can sell a fu**ing banner AD!?!..."

Marketing:No you prehistoric pencil pusher! I want to make sure we blah blah The Newsroom"

News:
Just because I don't tweet pictures of my dumps doesn't mean I don't know quality news. What good is a news outlet if all we do is appeal to the lowest common denominator

Marketing: Too late, those jerks at _____ beat us to it.

News: Well we might as well report it too now...

News: **turns to an intern** WTF is a banner ad anyway?!?"


Yeah I mean if you assume they all have the knowledge and maturity of very small children. I'm pretty sure that's not realistic, but it really is a tricky scenario with how much spotlight they'd like to shine on this. It's pretty much free advertising for ISIS who'd love to be linked to every act of terrorism in the world to give them more apparent power. It's hard to not get into politics in this day and age, everything has some agenda it seems.
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