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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24102 Posts
December 15 2014 15:37 GMT
#221
On December 16 2014 00:32 foxmeep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 00:28 GreenHorizons wrote:
On December 16 2014 00:24 foxmeep wrote:
It sounds like the gunman fired some rounds then the police reached him and blew him away.


If what looked like gunfire to me actually was, they must of shot a loooot of rounds. Don't think it could of been less than 50 in at least 2 separate bursts.



I think all those flashes are from the grenades actually. Sounds like they only shot a few rounds on initial entry.


That would be a crap ton of flash bangs? I could be wrong though.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
December 15 2014 15:42 GMT
#222
Bomb Disposal Team have gone in
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
December 15 2014 15:44 GMT
#223
On December 16 2014 00:37 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 00:32 foxmeep wrote:
On December 16 2014 00:28 GreenHorizons wrote:
On December 16 2014 00:24 foxmeep wrote:
It sounds like the gunman fired some rounds then the police reached him and blew him away.


If what looked like gunfire to me actually was, they must of shot a loooot of rounds. Don't think it could of been less than 50 in at least 2 separate bursts.



I think all those flashes are from the grenades actually. Sounds like they only shot a few rounds on initial entry.


That would be a crap ton of flash bangs? I could be wrong though.


They're not your traditional single flash type. They have multiple smaller rounds.

http://www.vastacademy.com.au/vast-special-products/5-vast-special-products/product-categories/108-distraction-devicesstun-grenades
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
December 15 2014 15:48 GMT
#224
i google mapped the area and noticed that opposite, there's a hairdresser called Blow Up Hairdresser. =X
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
December 15 2014 15:49 GMT
#225
hope none of the hostages were killed
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
December 15 2014 15:49 GMT
#226
NSW PoliceVerified account
‏@nswpolice Sydney siege is over. More details to follow.

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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 16:05:57
December 15 2014 15:49 GMT
#227
nvm
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 15 2014 15:51 GMT
#228
5 lost hostages is a terrible conclusion, i hope they had a good reason to storm like that
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24102 Posts
December 15 2014 15:53 GMT
#229
On December 16 2014 00:44 foxmeep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 00:37 GreenHorizons wrote:
On December 16 2014 00:32 foxmeep wrote:
On December 16 2014 00:28 GreenHorizons wrote:
On December 16 2014 00:24 foxmeep wrote:
It sounds like the gunman fired some rounds then the police reached him and blew him away.


If what looked like gunfire to me actually was, they must of shot a loooot of rounds. Don't think it could of been less than 50 in at least 2 separate bursts.



I think all those flashes are from the grenades actually. Sounds like they only shot a few rounds on initial entry.


That would be a crap ton of flash bangs? I could be wrong though.


They're not your traditional single flash type. They have multiple smaller rounds.

http://www.vastacademy.com.au/vast-special-products/5-vast-special-products/product-categories/108-distraction-devicesstun-grenades


Hmm Never seen those used in the US but seems legit.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
December 15 2014 15:53 GMT
#230
They probably had no choice to go in, considering a bunch of hostages just ran out.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
December 15 2014 15:54 GMT
#231
On December 16 2014 00:51 LaNague wrote:
5 lost hostages is a terrible conclusion, i hope they had a good reason to storm like that

it sounds like more hostages were running from the building, then shots were heard, and then the police stormed. it's likely that the police had their hand forced
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 15 2014 15:55 GMT
#232
=[
On December 16 2014 00:51 LaNague wrote:
5 lost hostages is a terrible conclusion, i hope they had a good reason to storm like that

Given that he got agitated when the last set of hostages was release (CNN article claims at least) its not unreasonable to suspect he started firing upon the remaining hostages that would be terrible news
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
December 15 2014 15:57 GMT
#233
Without any other information, I'd say that's what happened - hostages started running and he shot. The police seemed to chain the distraction/flash grenades I guess to take his focus off the hostages or impair his sight as they got away.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
December 15 2014 15:59 GMT
#234
looks like they used some form of "9-banger"
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24102 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 16:12:01
December 15 2014 16:08 GMT
#235
With the YouTube compilation they put together on this guy he reminds me of the westboro people except there was never anyone with him.

His criminal record is pretty ridiculous too.

They have an inordinate amount of footage of this guy already. I guess he's been on the news before? That's why they have a inordinate amount of stock footage of this guy.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
December 15 2014 16:11 GMT
#236
I wonder where CNN got their info from, none of Australia's media seems to know any details yet.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 15 2014 16:11 GMT
#237
On December 16 2014 01:11 foxmeep wrote:
I wonder where CNN got their info from, none of Australia's media seems to know any details yet.

There was some mention of CPR being used on abc just now.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24102 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 16:13:34
December 15 2014 16:12 GMT
#238
On December 16 2014 01:11 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 01:11 foxmeep wrote:
I wonder where CNN got their info from, none of Australia's media seems to know any details yet.

There was some mention of CPR being used on abc just now.



I saw it on the video. wasn't sure at first but I saw someone performing chest compressions just outside the front door. I think they realized what it was the same time I did because they cut to a random shot of nothing after.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9894 Posts
December 15 2014 16:14 GMT
#239
On December 16 2014 01:11 foxmeep wrote:
I wonder where CNN got their info from, none of Australia's media seems to know any details yet.

The Australian media are being humane and organized and not releasing info until they know it won't do harm.

The rest of the world appears not to care.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 16:15:50
December 15 2014 16:15 GMT
#240
On December 16 2014 01:08 GreenHorizons wrote:
With the YouTube compilation they put together on this guy he reminds me of the westboro people except there was never anyone with him.

His criminal record is pretty ridiculous too.

They have an inordinate amount of footage of this guy already. I guess he's been on the news before? That's why they have a inordinate amount of stock footage of this guy.


According to the news link - http://www.news.com.au/national/martin-place-cafe-siege-police-storm-cafe-where-sheik-man-haron-monis-held-several-people-hostage/story-fncynjr2-1227156241649

This guy is just waiting to blow up. It's pretty sad that the last few hostages decided to make a run for it since that would escalate the situation far quicker than the first few escapees, but I guess you couldn't blame them for not caring about the consequences. Maybe police snipers could have acted sooner once they realized that he was working alone.
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