it sounds like more hostages were running from the building, then shots were heard, and then the police stormed. it's likely that the police had their hand forced

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

December 15 2014 15:55 GMT

#232

On December 16 2014 00:51 LaNague wrote:
5 lost hostages is a terrible conclusion, i hope they had a good reason to storm like that

Given that he got agitated when the last set of hostages was release (CNN article claims at least) its not unreasonable to suspect he started firing upon the remaining hostages

that would be terrible news

deL

Australia5540 Posts

December 15 2014 15:57 GMT

#233

Without any other information, I'd say that's what happened - hostages started running and he shot. The police seemed to chain the distraction/flash grenades I guess to take his focus off the hostages or impair his sight as they got away.

ahswtini

Northern Ireland22212 Posts

December 15 2014 15:59 GMT

#234

looks like they used some form of "9-banger"

GreenHorizons

United States23932 Posts

December 15 2014 16:08 GMT

#235

With the YouTube compilation they put together on this guy he reminds me of the westboro people except there was never anyone with him.

His criminal record is pretty ridiculous too.

They have an inordinate amount of footage of this guy already. I guess he's been on the news before? That's why they have a inordinate amount of stock footage of this guy.

foxmeep

Australia2337 Posts

December 15 2014 16:11 GMT

#236

I wonder where CNN got their info from, none of Australia's media seems to know any details yet.

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

December 15 2014 16:11 GMT

#237

On December 16 2014 01:11 foxmeep wrote:
I wonder where CNN got their info from, none of Australia's media seems to know any details yet.

There was some mention of CPR being used on abc just now.

GreenHorizons

United States23932 Posts

December 15 2014 16:12 GMT

#238

On December 16 2014 01:11 Plexa wrote:

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There was some mention of CPR being used on abc just now.

I saw it on the video. wasn't sure at first but I saw someone performing chest compressions just outside the front door. I think they realized what it was the same time I did because they cut to a random shot of nothing after.

Jockmcplop

United Kingdom9845 Posts

December 15 2014 16:14 GMT

#239

On December 16 2014 01:11 foxmeep wrote:
I wonder where CNN got their info from, none of Australia's media seems to know any details yet.

The Australian media are being humane and organized and not releasing info until they know it won't do harm.

The rest of the world appears not to care.

Oktyabr

Singapore2234 Posts

December 15 2014 16:15 GMT

#240

On December 16 2014 01:08 GreenHorizons wrote:
With the YouTube compilation they put together on this guy he reminds me of the westboro people except there was never anyone with him.

His criminal record is pretty ridiculous too.

They have an inordinate amount of footage of this guy already. I guess he's been on the news before? That's why they have a inordinate amount of stock footage of this guy.

According to the news link - http://www.news.com.au/national/martin-place-cafe-siege-police-storm-cafe-where-sheik-man-haron-monis-held-several-people-hostage/story-fncynjr2-1227156241649

This guy is just waiting to blow up. It's pretty sad that the last few hostages decided to make a run for it since that would escalate the situation far quicker than the first few escapees, but I guess you couldn't blame them for not caring about the consequences. Maybe police snipers could have acted sooner once they realized that he was working alone.