Hostage Situation in Sydney, AUS - Page 7

1)an ISIL flag in exchange for a hostage


Gunman calling himself "The Brother"

On December 15 2014 15:59 Sub40APM wrote:
Why would they want an ISIL flag? Didnt they already bring one?

On December 15 2014 16:18 GreenHorizons wrote:



Considering the calls started at a right wing radio station and requesting an on air conversation with the PM it's probably just a bababooey waiting for an outlet gullible/greedy enough to give them a platform. Just going to have to wait to know for sure... Damn hostage taker, no consideration for the instant gratification complex we've collectively developed...

I was going to say some more effective ways that this guy could of gotten his message out rather than calling media (if he actually did) or holding up a flag but I don't want to put any ideas out there for stupid people who might try something like this in the future. Needless to say the guy is a moron when it comes to actually getting a specific message across.

It also dawned on me (thanks one) how generating generic hate against Muslims is as effective or more so than generating the terror itself. The terrorist don't want to get westerners on their side, and they know they can't win a conventional war on their own, they want Muslims to join them. Every time an innocent muslim is harassed, assaulted, abused, mocked or berated on a religious or racial level, etc... It's a win for the terrorist. It pushes moderate Muslims further from the west and makes more of the radical's rhetoric ring true in moderate Muslim lives.

Only about 2 hours until sunset in Sydney no? Anyone have some insight as to how night would change the strategic situation?

Only about 2 hours until sunset in Sydney no? Anyone have some insight as to how night would change the strategic situation?

On December 15 2014 16:22 ROOTiaguz wrote:


Well eventually all the crowds of people will go home and make things easier for the police to move around.

On December 15 2014 16:35 peanuts wrote:

I heard the accomplice bit on ABC24. Also, a dead man's switch is basically a mechanism that has to be triggered every so often in order to prevent an action. Basically, inputting the numbers in the Hatch in Lost, to cite a pop culture instance.

On December 15 2014 18:17 paralleluniverse wrote:
This is a despicable and outrageous act of terror. I've noticed that the cowardly Australian press is trying so hard to play down the role of Islam despite the hostage taker flying a Islamic flag, is demanding an ISIS flag in exchange for 1 hostage (it's likely that the Islamic flag was used as a substitute because it's hard to acquire an ISIS flag), and according to a Facebook post from a hostage, the gunman says that he's associated with the "Islamic State of Australia". As far as I know, there's no such thing as the "Islamic State of Australia", so it is likely that this is the work of a lone religious lunatic. While the actions of the gunman doesn't represent all Muslims, to suggest that there's no connection with Islam at all, as the press and many others on social media are trying so hard to do, is delusional. When a gunman specifically makes a statement with a flag that reads "There is no God but Allah" and religiously-motivated demands, clearly he's not motivated by his religion at all. We saw exactly the same sort of deranged denial from "progressives" when Lee Rigby was killed on the streets of London while his murderer was yelling "Allahu Akbar" and people also had their heads in the sand on the role of Islam.

It is quite surreal hearing about this sort of terrible event in your own country. Another unfortunate side effect is that it has distracted from MYEFO, which has revealed that the budget deficit has blown out by a further $67B over 2014-2017 by a government which lied about a "budget emergency" under Labor, is obsessed with fixing the deficit that they've blown up, is spending even more money on school chaplaincies, while doing absolutely nothing to address the unemployment rate that is at a 12 year high

On December 15 2014 18:17 paralleluniverse wrote:
This is a despicable and outrageous act of terror. I've noticed that the cowardly Australian press is trying so hard to play down the role of Islam despite the hostage taker flying a Islamic flag, is demanding an ISIS flag in exchange for 1 hostage (it's likely that the Islamic flag was used as a substitute because it's hard to acquire an ISIS flag), and according to a Facebook post from a hostage, the gunman says that he's associated with the "Islamic State of Australia". As far as I know, there's no such thing as the "Islamic State of Australia", so it is likely that this is the work of a lone religious lunatic. While the actions of the gunman doesn't represent all Muslims, to suggest that there's no connection with Islam at all, as the press and many others on social media are trying so hard to do, is delusional. When a gunman specifically makes a statement with a flag that reads "There is no God but Allah" and religiously-motivated demands, clearly he's not motivated by his religion at all. We saw exactly the same sort of deranged denial from "progressives" when Lee Rigby was killed on the streets of London while his murderer was yelling "Allahu Akbar" and people also had their heads in the sand on the role of Islam.

It is quite surreal hearing about this sort of terrible event in your own country. Another unfortunate side effect is that it has distracted from MYEFO, which has revealed that the budget deficit has blown out by a further $67B over 2014-2017 by a government which lied about a "budget emergency" under Labor, is obsessed with fixing the deficit that they've blown up, is spending even more money on school chaplaincies, while doing absolutely nothing to address the unemployment rate that is at a 12 year high