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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 05:32:50
December 15 2014 05:32 GMT
#101
Short clip of two of the dudes escaping. Not sure how to embed.

https://vine.co/v/O6lZHDMUlYj
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51593 Posts
December 15 2014 05:39 GMT
#102
okay, after watching that i'm sure that this guy is just a nutter with no affiliation to any group
how the guy lets people away lol
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23932 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 05:42:46
December 15 2014 05:41 GMT
#103
On December 15 2014 14:32 Belisarius wrote:
Short clip of two of the dudes escaping. Not sure how to embed.

https://vine.co/v/O6lZHDMUlYj


Glad I saw that, I was listening and they said they ran out the fire exit but they clearly ran out the front door.


Street view of the shop:

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.8677894,151.2112359,3a,90y,209.96h,78.93t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s5-9WHXfOUDgfNVjwKRV5Eg!2e0?hl=en


I'm surprised more people didn't just scatter when it first happened.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 05:55:21
December 15 2014 05:53 GMT
#104


Probably explains the confusion.

Photo of fire door guy (on left i think)
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yandere991
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia394 Posts
December 15 2014 05:56 GMT
#105
Hope what they said about having other devices around the city is false. Rush hour in the CBD is about to begin. I liked how they staggered the evacuations, we all left around 3ish today.
peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
December 15 2014 06:03 GMT
#106
On December 15 2014 12:28 LilClinkin wrote:
This event seems staged to me. A single armed man carrying a blue bag takes hostages in a chocolate shop in Sydney CBD nearby one of the biggest media offices in the country (channel 7 building) and the US consulate building. He has harmed no one as of yet. He ordered one of the hostages to hold up a flag with islamic writing to a window. He seems to walk around comfortably in plain view of the window, with a big scary beard and wearing a bandanna, without any fear of retaliation from sniper units.

4 hours after onset of this incident, the NSW police have evacuated the surrounding area of the sydney CBD. The comissioner was just on TV saying he hpoes for a peaceful resolution to this conflict, even though they have yet to make direct contact with the armed man. WTF? 4 hours on and you haven't contacted the single man responsible for a hostage situation?

His bag could easily contain explosives with a dead man's switch. Also, he has an armed accomplice. Even if he is exposed, you don't take a shot with those two factors in play.
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ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
December 15 2014 06:09 GMT
#107
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23932 Posts
December 15 2014 06:10 GMT
#108
On December 15 2014 15:03 peanuts wrote:
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On December 15 2014 12:28 LilClinkin wrote:
This event seems staged to me. A single armed man carrying a blue bag takes hostages in a chocolate shop in Sydney CBD nearby one of the biggest media offices in the country (channel 7 building) and the US consulate building. He has harmed no one as of yet. He ordered one of the hostages to hold up a flag with islamic writing to a window. He seems to walk around comfortably in plain view of the window, with a big scary beard and wearing a bandanna, without any fear of retaliation from sniper units.

4 hours after onset of this incident, the NSW police have evacuated the surrounding area of the sydney CBD. The comissioner was just on TV saying he hpoes for a peaceful resolution to this conflict, even though they have yet to make direct contact with the armed man. WTF? 4 hours on and you haven't contacted the single man responsible for a hostage situation?

His bag could easily contain explosives with a dead man's switch. Also, he has an armed accomplice. Even if he is exposed, you don't take a shot with those two factors in play.


Where are people getting the accomplice from? I've only heard/seen that there was only one suspect (without confirmations of whether or not there are more)? Not sure what kind of deadman's switch you are imagining, but 6 hours is a long ass time to hold a denator down.
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LilClinkin
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Australia667 Posts
December 15 2014 06:29 GMT
#109
On December 15 2014 15:03 peanuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 12:28 LilClinkin wrote:
This event seems staged to me. A single armed man carrying a blue bag takes hostages in a chocolate shop in Sydney CBD nearby one of the biggest media offices in the country (channel 7 building) and the US consulate building. He has harmed no one as of yet. He ordered one of the hostages to hold up a flag with islamic writing to a window. He seems to walk around comfortably in plain view of the window, with a big scary beard and wearing a bandanna, without any fear of retaliation from sniper units.

4 hours after onset of this incident, the NSW police have evacuated the surrounding area of the sydney CBD. The comissioner was just on TV saying he hpoes for a peaceful resolution to this conflict, even though they have yet to make direct contact with the armed man. WTF? 4 hours on and you haven't contacted the single man responsible for a hostage situation?

His bag could easily contain explosives with a dead man's switch. Also, he has an armed accomplice. Even if he is exposed, you don't take a shot with those two factors in play.


I agree, you don't take a shot at an armed individual under those circumstances. However, if you were an armed individual, would you walk around in plain view of windows when you know media and police are outside? I personally wouldn't.
LilClinkin
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Australia667 Posts
December 15 2014 06:32 GMT
#110
A lot of unanswered questions. I will say this is convenient for our currently unpopular government, who today are announcing mid-year budget deficit of $40 billion.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
December 15 2014 06:32 GMT
#111
im really curious if the SAS has been called in for this
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ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
December 15 2014 06:35 GMT
#112
On December 15 2014 15:32 icystorage wrote:
im really curious if the SAS has been called in for this


I'm absolutely no expert, but given that the NSW police Commissioner is the one giving all the media briefings, I'd say the siege is being handled by the NSW police force.
LilClinkin
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Australia667 Posts
December 15 2014 06:36 GMT
#113
On December 15 2014 15:32 icystorage wrote:
im really curious if the SAS has been called in for this


This is currently being handled by the NSW police force. I think (but not 100% certain) that federal and other state law-enforcement agencies are currently on stand-by.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
December 15 2014 06:38 GMT
#114
thanks! i hope the police doesnt fuck this one up tho
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BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
December 15 2014 06:39 GMT
#115
They seem to be doing ok so far.
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
December 15 2014 06:43 GMT
#116
did they block out the media?
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23932 Posts
December 15 2014 06:47 GMT
#117
Watching the video of the hostages getting away it does look like the police were not expecting them, making me think they might have escaped as opposed to being let go.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
December 15 2014 06:48 GMT
#118
On December 15 2014 15:32 LilClinkin wrote:
A lot of unanswered questions. I will say this is convenient for our currently unpopular government, who today are announcing mid-year budget deficit of $40 billion.

What do you think is going to make them more unpopular: being unpopular due to budget deficit or being unpopular due to engineering a conspiracy false flag operation that breaks a bunch of Australian laws, endangers Australians ?
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
December 15 2014 06:48 GMT
#119
On December 15 2014 15:47 GreenHorizons wrote:
Watching the video of the hostages getting away it does look like the police were not expecting them, making me think they might have escaped as opposed to being let go.

Also seems weird how the police werent covering the exits.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23932 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 06:56:18
December 15 2014 06:55 GMT
#120
On December 15 2014 15:48 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 15:47 GreenHorizons wrote:
Watching the video of the hostages getting away it does look like the police were not expecting them, making me think they might have escaped as opposed to being let go.

Also seems weird how the police werent covering the exits.




Channel 10 reporting they spoke with the guman and 2 hostages

2 demands being reported:

1)an ISIL flag in exchange for a hostage

2)A call to the PM

Gunman calling himself "The Brother"

Also claims there are multiple bombs in the building.

Reports of the gunman contacting channel 9 and a right wing radio station.

All that being said it could just be some troll trying to get their 15 minutes and media outlets rushing to report unconfirmed information.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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