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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 15 2014 03:59 GMT
#81
So did Lindit refuse to become Halal certified or w/e? Seeing that going around on Twitter.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2117 Posts
December 15 2014 04:13 GMT
#82
I hope these two Islamists have a sense of sanity/humanity remaining in them, or else I fear for the lives of these people, and I especially fear for the women
John 15:13
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
December 15 2014 04:21 GMT
#83
On December 15 2014 12:28 LilClinkin wrote:
This event seems staged to me. A single armed man carrying a blue bag takes hostages in a chocolate shop in Sydney CBD nearby one of the biggest media offices in the country (channel 7 building) and the US consulate building. He has harmed no one as of yet. He ordered one of the hostages to hold up a flag with islamic writing to a window. He seems to walk around comfortably in plain view of the window, with a big scary beard and wearing a bandanna, without any fear of retaliation from sniper units.

4 hours after onset of this incident, the NSW police have evacuated the surrounding area of the sydney CBD. The comissioner was just on TV saying he hpoes for a peaceful resolution to this conflict, even though they have yet to make direct contact with the armed man. WTF? 4 hours on and you haven't contacted the single man responsible for a hostage situation?

There are plenty of plausible explanations for the issues you've raised. Bit early to be going all-in on the tin-foil-hat position.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
December 15 2014 04:23 GMT
#84
On December 15 2014 12:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So did Lindit refuse to become Halal certified or w/e? Seeing that going around on Twitter.

i don't have any information here that anyone else doesn't, but based solely on common sense i really doubt that's true. it sounds more like a rumor from people looking to make islam/islamism seem foolish and barbaric by portraying them as losing their shit over chocolate, the kind of thing you would see debunked on snopes. if you ask me the agenda is probably the same as it ever is: a mixture of religious fanaticism and outrage at western involvement in middle eastern affairs

but again, i have no more information than anyone! in fact i have much less! but the halal theory doesn't pass the sniff test for me...
TL+ Member
sths
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Australia192 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 06:10:21
December 15 2014 04:24 GMT
#85
I can just see another 24 series based off today's events.

*cue dramatic dun dun music*

The following events happened between the hour of 9:00am and 10:00am.



They had barricaded themselves inside the mens toilets at St. James station. This was to be the last meeting before their sacred mission.

Derka stood on top of a toilet which he used as a makeshift podium. He took a deep breath and eyed each of his fellow martyrs standing below him.

"Brothers! God's will brought us together today. For today is the day we teach these godless infidels the what true fear is. Today we strike at the heart of western capitalism. Today we will demolish their so called Reserve Bank. Today we will demonstrate to the whole world that no place is safe from the wrath of our god. Today we-...... "

Derka suddenly stopped and did a quick headcount around the room.

"Where the hell is Jamal?"

The other martyrs all stared at their feet awkwardly.

"Well?" Derka snapped.

Slowly a hand crept up from the back of the room.

"Yes brother Habibi, speak."

"Brother Derka, Jamal got here a bit late and he didn't have any breakfast so....."

"So what?"

"So.... he went across the street to get coffee and a danish."

Derka closed his eyes and used every bit of restraint he had to control himself. He jumped off his podium and walked towards brother Haibibi and when he stood infront of him, he slowly shirtfronted him and said

"You're telling me today, of all days, right before our glories triumpth, that idiot Jamal was not only late, but he jeapordizes our holy mission because he wanted to get coffee?"

"..... an...and a danish."

Murmurs and chatter started around the room. Apparently the comment about the danish greatly disturbed his fellow brothers. Why a danish? Why not a croissant? Was it a race thing?

"What shall we do now brother Derka?" somebody asked.

Derka stared off into distance. This was a test. God was testing him and his followers. It had to be. Obstacles are just another chance to prove his faith. When god gives you lemons, or in this case, a coffee shop, you brew it with your terror plans and concoct a delicious qahwa. This is not the time to give up. This is time for Plan B.
Ultimo Hombre
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia1436 Posts
December 15 2014 04:26 GMT
#86
Hopefully the situation is resolved without any loss of life, but sadly, irregardless of what happens there will no doubt be a large increase in the already massive levels of racism in this country against those who look middle eastern or "muslim"
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
December 15 2014 04:34 GMT
#87
On December 15 2014 12:54 AssyrianKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 11:31 ROOTiaguz wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:27 AssyrianKing wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:25 BallinWitStalin wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:21 AssyrianKing wrote:
Why are we letting them in... They won't let my auntie in from Iran who is CHRISTIAN but instead they are letting in these retards -.-


Nice that didn't take long.

Let the bigotism begin!

You dont know how much shit my people got from them in the middle east, your sitting there with your seat comfortable talking shit when my people actually have endured and are still enduring their shit!


I'm on my way to Lakemba right now with a cricket bat and some VB, let's start wrecking cunts.

EDIT- holy shit your signature reads "love and forgive", this is hilarious.

My signature is not related to anything that I am saying

Hence the hilarity
Yhamm is the god of predictions
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 06:03:36
December 15 2014 04:37 GMT
#88
On December 15 2014 12:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So did Lindit refuse to become Halal certified or w/e? Seeing that going around on Twitter.


There has been a lot of stuff on social media recently about halal certification and the money going to fund terrorists, so this is probably an extension of that stupidity.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 15 2014 04:37 GMT
#89
i'll say two things.

moderate, integrated muslims is the best resource we have against radicalism.
simple categorical demonization of muslims is the worst thing we can do against radicalism.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
December 15 2014 04:46 GMT
#90
We've got people leaving the building now.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 15 2014 04:47 GMT
#91
2 people from front, one form the side.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2117 Posts
December 15 2014 04:47 GMT
#92
On December 15 2014 13:34 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 12:54 AssyrianKing wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:31 ROOTiaguz wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:27 AssyrianKing wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:25 BallinWitStalin wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:21 AssyrianKing wrote:
Why are we letting them in... They won't let my auntie in from Iran who is CHRISTIAN but instead they are letting in these retards -.-


Nice that didn't take long.

Let the bigotism begin!

You dont know how much shit my people got from them in the middle east, your sitting there with your seat comfortable talking shit when my people actually have endured and are still enduring their shit!


I'm on my way to Lakemba right now with a cricket bat and some VB, let's start wrecking cunts.

EDIT- holy shit your signature reads "love and forgive", this is hilarious.

My signature is not related to anything that I am saying

Hence the hilarity

Keep laughing, but I am not going to let what happened to my people's home and to my people themselves happen here, your people aren't the ones being persecuted for the past 1400 years and forcefully converted, used as sex slaves, raped and murdered
John 15:13
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24104 Posts
December 15 2014 04:51 GMT
#93
Okay a few people escaping now at least makes sense. No idea how 1 person is keeping so many people under control. 30 5th graders would be hard enough ~30 adults seems unbelievable. This guy doesn't seem nearly sophisticated enough to have rigged a deadman switch or some sort of pressure sensitive trigger.

Anyone find some statistics or images or have personal experience of the layout of the shop or it's size?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
December 15 2014 04:52 GMT
#94
On December 15 2014 13:47 AssyrianKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 13:34 Scarecrow wrote:
On December 15 2014 12:54 AssyrianKing wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:31 ROOTiaguz wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:27 AssyrianKing wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:25 BallinWitStalin wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:21 AssyrianKing wrote:
Why are we letting them in... They won't let my auntie in from Iran who is CHRISTIAN but instead they are letting in these retards -.-


Nice that didn't take long.

Let the bigotism begin!

You dont know how much shit my people got from them in the middle east, your sitting there with your seat comfortable talking shit when my people actually have endured and are still enduring their shit!


I'm on my way to Lakemba right now with a cricket bat and some VB, let's start wrecking cunts.

EDIT- holy shit your signature reads "love and forgive", this is hilarious.

My signature is not related to anything that I am saying

Hence the hilarity

Keep laughing, but I am not going to let what happened to my people's home and to my people themselves happen here, your people aren't the ones being persecuted for the past 1400 years and forcefully converted, used as sex slaves, raped and murdered



Well if I see any of that happening in this country I'll be sure to let someone know.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
December 15 2014 04:58 GMT
#95
On December 15 2014 13:47 AssyrianKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 13:34 Scarecrow wrote:
On December 15 2014 12:54 AssyrianKing wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:31 ROOTiaguz wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:27 AssyrianKing wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:25 BallinWitStalin wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:21 AssyrianKing wrote:
Why are we letting them in... They won't let my auntie in from Iran who is CHRISTIAN but instead they are letting in these retards -.-


Nice that didn't take long.

Let the bigotism begin!

You dont know how much shit my people got from them in the middle east, your sitting there with your seat comfortable talking shit when my people actually have endured and are still enduring their shit!


I'm on my way to Lakemba right now with a cricket bat and some VB, let's start wrecking cunts.

EDIT- holy shit your signature reads "love and forgive", this is hilarious.

My signature is not related to anything that I am saying

Hence the hilarity

Keep laughing, but I am not going to let what happened to my people's home and to my people themselves happen here, your people aren't the ones being persecuted for the past 1400 years and forcefully converted, used as sex slaves, raped and murdered

Hey whats wrong with you? Huge parts of society share your opinion but you are supposed to self-censor yourself.
Those opinions are only allowed after a couple of beers with your friends. Then the public and media can act all surprised when "suddenly" 10000 people show up for anti-muslim demonstrations like in germany right now.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
December 15 2014 05:03 GMT
#96
On December 15 2014 13:37 oneofthem wrote:
i'll say two things.

moderate, integrated muslims is the best resource we have against radicalism.
simple categorical demonization of muslims is the worst thing we can do against radicalism.

please. there are plenty of worse things that can happen if emotionally unhinged people were in charge: rounding up all muslims and putting them into camps would be worse.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24104 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 05:17:22
December 15 2014 05:14 GMT
#97
Damn... that is one fancy chocolate shop. EDIT: I guess it's near Tiffany's so this is kind of like Sydney's 'Rodeo' or 5th ave?

+ Show Spoiler +
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Source
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 05:27:34
December 15 2014 05:26 GMT
#98
Looks like it. I've never been in that one but there's another a few blocks over which is much less fancy, so it's not standard.

Also, more images of the shop's internal layout from... some random architecture website. Cheers google. I was wondering how you'd fit 40 people in there.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
December 15 2014 05:28 GMT
#99
Actions like this, regardless of the cause or the message trying to be delivered wont bring sympathy from the world. It's totally counter productive.

Let's just hope for no casualties.
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 05:30:33
December 15 2014 05:30 GMT
#100
On December 15 2014 13:47 AssyrianKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 13:34 Scarecrow wrote:
On December 15 2014 12:54 AssyrianKing wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:31 ROOTiaguz wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:27 AssyrianKing wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:25 BallinWitStalin wrote:
On December 15 2014 11:21 AssyrianKing wrote:
Why are we letting them in... They won't let my auntie in from Iran who is CHRISTIAN but instead they are letting in these retards -.-


Nice that didn't take long.

Let the bigotism begin!

You dont know how much shit my people got from them in the middle east, your sitting there with your seat comfortable talking shit when my people actually have endured and are still enduring their shit!


I'm on my way to Lakemba right now with a cricket bat and some VB, let's start wrecking cunts.

EDIT- holy shit your signature reads "love and forgive", this is hilarious.

My signature is not related to anything that I am saying

Hence the hilarity

Keep laughing, but I am not going to let what happened to my people's home and to my people themselves happen here, your people aren't the ones being persecuted for the past 1400 years and forcefully converted, used as sex slaves, raped and murdered

How's that even close to happening? It's one chocolate cafe held up by an idiot with a gun. There's plenty of moderate muslim people and countries and saying we shouldn't let them in based on religion is plain ignorant.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
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