US Secret Prisons - Page 3

On September 07 2006 19:41 {88}iNcontroL wrote:


Yes of course they were from years ago, but if you want I can give examples of countries doing this now..? All first world countries when faced with a ticking time bomb situation, or a situation in which organizations are amassing resources and personel with the distinct intent of killing citizens of that first world country, they ALWAYS HAVE and ALWAYS WILL use whatever tactic gets the job done, to get the information necessary to reduce the chances of success from their opponents.

On September 07 2006 19:43 hasuprotoss wrote:
History has, and always will, repeat itself.

However, I don't understand your point either. You are trying to compare Nazi death camps with current day US secret prisons. Here's a newsflash for you:

America hasn't rounded up all the Arabs/Muslims for genocide. America hasn't (to my knowledge) starved the people it has in its prisons. The only thing that Nazi death camps and US secret prisons have in common is that they hold prisoners that are seen as enemies to the state (rightfully so or not, that's up for you to decide).

Of course, I might have completely misread your argument, but I think I got it right.

On September 07 2006 19:38 {88}iNcontroL wrote:


Or im doing what i fucking said, now 3 times. I would like to ask Lemonwalrus and Hippopotomus to please read more carefully before engaging in further semi-intellectual discussion. I feel like im teaching a class of down-syndrome students.

And what, pray tell, was the most important lesson learned in the 20th century from Nazi Germany.. what THE FUCK was the single most important explosion of information that you have now deemed the greatest thing learned in over 100 years that came from my allusion to "German concentration camps"

I realize im steam boating towards a flurry of comments like "iNcontroL just let it go" or "relax" or "god you argue so much" But i have an alergic reaction to dumb, and these 2 guys are making my skin bleed.

On September 07 2006 19:53 Hippopotamus wrote:


Well you seem to dismiss opinions by trying to get at the idea that they were just thoughtless impulses evoked by your comment about concentration camps. As if being repulsed by nazi germany is unwarranted. But Nazi Germany has a lot to teach us. I don't feel like writing an essay about why it's important. Perhaps most relevant is that the consequence of failing to check government, of nationalism, of exagerrating threats was at one point in history, massive genocide.

Instead of picking out one thing you object to in our responses explain the point of your post if it isn't to justify what Bush does? Is it just an aimless rant?

On September 07 2006 19:48 ToT)Testie( wrote:
If Clinton had released this news, he'd probably have been impeached. Why?
Nearly impeached for infidelity.

On September 07 2006 19:52 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
You can go to bed sir.

I regret so deeply my referance to the Nazi summer camps. This will be my last attempt to explain this. Litterally, the two are completely seperate, in severity and mechanics, i understand this. The referance was purely to exemplify the existance of such tactics throughout history, and throughout the world. No, im not saying its good or legal or swell. What i am saying, and this gets discussed more adequatly in my later points (which seem to have been completely forgotten) is these tactics, have and will be used by EVERYONE in varying ways and degrees. The media coverage and the bitchiness everytime the US utilizes what EVERYONE is utilizing as some kind of "unique" or "omg cruel" way of getting information geared towards ending a fuckign war and ultimately saving lives is painstaking to the least.

On September 07 2006 19:55 Lemonwalrus wrote:

You are correct, when speaking in english, the 'an' would be replaced with 'a' in that sentence. But when writing in english, the 'an' would be used. English writing and speaking follow different rules for special circumstances. Although I do not claim to be a master of the english language, I am ALMOST 100% sure that this is correct.

On September 07 2006 19:57 hasuprotoss wrote:


Read my post about what would have happened if Clinton released the news. It's true, and you know it deep down inside.

Its about the complete and utter bias towards the US and how this site gets so fucking twisted when the US does something that everyone else does. Is it right? No. Do i care? fuck no. Im trying to convey an annoyance.

On September 07 2006 20:12 Hippopotamus wrote:


I offered this in a question as a possible reason for your post.

On September 07 2006 20:07 Lemonwalrus wrote:
{88}iNcontroL, I apologize for incorrectly challenging one of your posts, and have gone back and changed my response to that post after realising that I am a total jackass. Sorry for the inconvenience.

On September 07 2006 19:17 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
ZOMG They dont ask nicely for information? Fucking monsters! Not like those other institutions throughout history where national terrorists and conspirators are treated with dignity and respect, like in the glory days of Vietnamese prison camps, Russian holding cells, German concentration camps, South American executions, French dungeons or Middle Eastern mass graves. Shame on you USA, your the only ones who use forceful tactics to extract information. Fucking bastards, I bet pre-Bush these camps or anything of the sort never existed.. yeah, Bush solely set them up, it was all his idea that prick! He just hates non whites im sure of it. No President other than THIS American president have ever utilized such tactics, nobody.