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whatever
Profile Joined July 2005
Mexico693 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-07 12:32:27
September 07 2006 12:28 GMT
#61
On September 07 2006 20:24 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2006 19:17 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
ZOMG They dont ask nicely for information? Fucking monsters! Not like those other institutions throughout history where national terrorists and conspirators are treated with dignity and respect, like in the glory days of Vietnamese prison camps, Russian holding cells, German concentration camps, South American executions, French dungeons or Middle Eastern mass graves. Shame on you USA, your the only ones who use forceful tactics to extract information. Fucking bastards, I bet pre-Bush these camps or anything of the sort never existed.. yeah, Bush solely set them up, it was all his idea that prick! He just hates non whites im sure of it. No President other than THIS American president have ever utilized such tactics, nobody.

NO.
The second USA decided to become the world's sheriff and God's right hand it lost its right to be like everybody else.

Well the USA is not the first entity to claim their actions are God´s right, and "world sheriff" have also existed before (british empire?spanish?) just not at the same level because of obvious technological reasons
Time is always on my side
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 07 2006 12:30 GMT
#62
French? Roman? Hungarian? Indian?

USA didnt "chose" to become "God's right hand" we decided to back up democracy and sometimes enforce it in places we think it should exist. Sure thats fucked up, but that is far from us proclaiming to be the rage of God.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
September 07 2006 23:20 GMT
#63
Grammar Question #2

Could you please stfu.

Can you Please stfu.

What's the difference?
Rillanon.au
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28712 Posts
September 07 2006 23:37 GMT
#64
I seriously cannot comprehend how anyone are not disgusted as hell by this. it's wrong on so incredibly many levels. seriously.
you do not have the right to remain silent
anything we make you say can and will be used against you
you do not have the right for a lawyer

those are the basic three principles of law used by your government. pretty fucking different from how it's supposed to be.

if not for the fear of my own safety, if I were american I would be demonstrating night and day against this. and well, everything else regarded to the war against terror actually. if you reelect a republican representative after everything that has been discovered about this republican government then jesus christ there is no hope.
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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
September 07 2006 23:39 GMT
#65
On September 08 2006 08:20 haduken wrote:
Grammar Question #2

Could you please stfu.

Can you Please stfu.

What's the difference?

First one is requesting that someone stfu, second one is asking if someone has the ability to stfu.
I will now stfu.
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
September 07 2006 23:50 GMT
#66
Incontrol, how you can make this into being a topic of liberal bias is amazing. Any country and anyone caught doing this would receive heavy criticism, and rightfully so. It would be funny to see the contrast between your first post in the thread and whatever you would say if you were the victim of some other country doing this.

wtf was that signature
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
September 07 2006 23:51 GMT
#67
On September 08 2006 08:37 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I seriously cannot comprehend how anyone are not disgusted as hell by this. it's wrong on so incredibly many levels. seriously.
you do not have the right to remain silent
anything we make you say can and will be used against you
you do not have the right for a lawyer

those are the basic three principles of law used by your government. pretty fucking different from how it's supposed to be.

if not for the fear of my own safety, if I were american I would be demonstrating night and day against this. and well, everything else regarded to the war against terror actually. if you reelect a republican representative after everything that has been discovered about this republican government then jesus christ there is no hope.

Honestly i seriously can not see how the american people can re-elect a republican. Unless one is "re-elected" for us -_-
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
ToT)Testie(
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada723 Posts
September 07 2006 23:53 GMT
#68
Eri, the Republicans are unified, and much better at slandering their opponents. Much, much, much better.
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
September 07 2006 23:56 GMT
#69
On September 08 2006 08:37 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I seriously cannot comprehend how anyone are not disgusted as hell by this. it's wrong on so incredibly many levels. seriously.
you do not have the right to remain silent
anything we make you say can and will be used against you
you do not have the right for a lawyer

those are the basic three principles of law used by your government. pretty fucking different from how it's supposed to be.

if not for the fear of my own safety, if I were american I would be demonstrating night and day against this. and well, everything else regarded to the war against terror actually. if you reelect a republican representative after everything that has been discovered about this republican government then jesus christ there is no hope.


Demonstrating day and night? This isn't like some countries, such as France, where demonstrations have any power. The US citizen only has the power to vote for the lesser among evils (assuming we are not screwed out of it by crummy ballots, e-voting machines, gerrymandering, and other travesties in our officially sub-UN standard operated elections).
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
September 07 2006 23:58 GMT
#70
On September 08 2006 08:37 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I seriously cannot comprehend how anyone are not disgusted as hell by this. it's wrong on so incredibly many levels. seriously.
you do not have the right to remain silent
anything we make you say can and will be used against you
you do not have the right for a lawyer

those are the basic three principles of law used by your government. pretty fucking different from how it's supposed to be.

if not for the fear of my own safety, if I were american I would be demonstrating night and day against this. and well, everything else regarded to the war against terror actually. if you reelect a republican representative after everything that has been discovered about this republican government then jesus christ there is no hope.


Do people in Norway all think similarly? Would I get away with being an english only speaker?
I wanna move to Norway. I hear the women are pretty, the sex is good, and marijuana is EZ breezy beautiful cover girl...
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
ToT)Testie(
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada723 Posts
September 07 2006 23:58 GMT
#71
Again, true.

Eri, the entire WORLD demonstrated in ... the biggest global public protest the world has ever seen?

It didn't cause even the slightest dent.
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
September 08 2006 00:00 GMT
#72
What demonstration was that?
wtf was that signature
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
September 08 2006 00:02 GMT
#73
Ah the weekly anti usa thread.
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ToT)Testie(
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada723 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 00:07:20
September 08 2006 00:06 GMT
#74

Longinus
Profile Joined August 2006
Oman32 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 00:20:17
September 08 2006 00:12 GMT
#75
On September 07 2006 18:52 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Just a grammar question;
"In this new war, the most important source of information on where the terrorists are hiding and what they are planning is the terrorists themselves,"

Is the terrorists? Shouldn't it be are the terrorists themselves, or is it is because source is singular? But that doesn't sound right when I say it..


It's because they used the word source.

If they had said "sources" the word are would be correct.

I just read what lemonwalrus said.

ROFL

He is completely incorrect about the usage of "an".

The word an is used as opposed to "a" anytime the next word starts with the sound of a vowel.

For instance, if you pronounce "history" as ih-store-EE then saying "an history" is perfectly acceptable.

If you pronounce it "hist-or-EE" then say "a history" is also perfectly acceptable.

This bullshit about an large apple is retarded. I have no idea where you heard that, but it is false.
Oman like the country dawg.
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
September 08 2006 00:12 GMT
#76
I'm a little disturbed I managed to never hear about that. I think the day of the demonstration is done. Simply going into legal demonstration areas these days isn't going to do anything. Need to do things like strikes, boycotts in areas that would hurt. Of course, I won't, because I don't want to be shipped to some other country in a secret prison without a trial, since this would qualify me as a terrorist, wouldn't it?

BTW, I don't call this anti-USA... That is buying into the Bush propaganda that people against him are not patriotic, when the reverse is true.
wtf was that signature
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
September 08 2006 00:14 GMT
#77
Since this has sort of drifted to the powerless of the US citizen it's a good time to bring up, again, http://www.truemajority.org
wtf was that signature
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 08 2006 00:17 GMT
#78
On September 08 2006 08:50 Servolisk wrote:
Incontrol, how you can make this into being a topic of liberal bias is amazing. Any country and anyone caught doing this would receive heavy criticism, and rightfully so. It would be funny to see the contrast between your first post in the thread and whatever you would say if you were the victim of some other country doing this.



Fucking moron. Experience ALWAYS changes perspective. Perhaps if i was mobbed by a flock pf penguins and had my eyes pecked out by them i wouldnt be so in love with penguins either right? As it is, im fine with saying this because i know A. it is in noway unique or new. B. it gets results C. its a part of war.

Yeah it fucking sucks. Yeah its against the law. Yeah its inhumane. But name me a war where shit like this DIDNT happen?
ToT)Testie(
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada723 Posts
September 08 2006 00:22 GMT
#79
The war on poverty
ZING!
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
September 08 2006 00:25 GMT
#80
On September 08 2006 09:17 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2006 08:50 Servolisk wrote:
Incontrol, how you can make this into being a topic of liberal bias is amazing. Any country and anyone caught doing this would receive heavy criticism, and rightfully so. It would be funny to see the contrast between your first post in the thread and whatever you would say if you were the victim of some other country doing this.



Fucking moron. Experience ALWAYS changes perspective. Perhaps if i was mobbed by a flock pf penguins and had my eyes pecked out by them i wouldnt be so in love with penguins either right? As it is, im fine with saying this because i know A. it is in noway unique or new. B. it gets results C. its a part of war.


So... you're saying you would change your mind if it happened to you, but you won't because it has not? As in... you won't be against something unless you are one of the victims? hmmm.

Yeah it fucking sucks. Yeah its against the law. Yeah its inhumane. But name me a war where shit like this DIDNT happen?


What would the point of establishing that this is as widespread as you believe be? What does it change.

Anyway, it would be so easy to find a war where it didn't happen I suggest you refine you're criteria. And it would be even easier if we refine this to cases where it happened out of government endorsement, since it happens all the time where law enforcement and military go against the rules to abuse a prisoner. Those are distinctly separate scenarios.
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