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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
May 23 2019 20:39 GMT
#10481
On May 24 2019 05:09 Zaros wrote:
Just voted for the Brexit Party, hoping they hit 40%.


Nobody here's surprised, you fit the target audience.
On track to MA1950A.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
May 23 2019 20:57 GMT
#10482
On May 24 2019 05:09 Zaros wrote:
Just voted for the Brexit Party, hoping they hit 40%.

That's not really a suprise.

Here's a suprise though, I went to look at the voting card and there was an Animal Welfare party. I wonder what their political stances are? And I was reminded of my nick here.
Rasalased
Profile Joined May 2019
89 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-23 21:01:21
May 23 2019 20:58 GMT
#10483
Go ahead and send those Brexit Party MEPs to Brussels. They will only ever be there if there are camera's running. If not, they don't even show up for their job.

BTW, it turns out that the UK EU election, after the Brexit referendum, was also compromised. Many EU citizens living in the UK were blocked from voting today.

The UK should redo the election, but now allow everyone to vote.
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
May 23 2019 21:07 GMT
#10484
On May 24 2019 05:57 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 05:09 Zaros wrote:
Just voted for the Brexit Party, hoping they hit 40%.

That's not really a suprise.

Here's a suprise though, I went to look at the voting card and there was an Animal Welfare party. I wonder what their political stances are? And I was reminded of my nick here.


I think that's a bit sad. It's like going to the grocery store never looking at anything but milk, bread and ham. You could've checked which parties are taking part!

Don't take this as an attack, just a friendly reminder for the next elections

That some European voters were blocked from voting is not just sad, it's unacceptable. I read about brexit and British politics since around November and have obviously seen some blunders. But this isn't pissing away money with a bad ferry deal, this is neglecting the basis of democracy. Even hardcore brexit people should look at this and see it.
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
May 23 2019 21:12 GMT
#10485
On May 24 2019 06:07 schaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 05:57 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On May 24 2019 05:09 Zaros wrote:
Just voted for the Brexit Party, hoping they hit 40%.

That's not really a suprise.

Here's a suprise though, I went to look at the voting card and there was an Animal Welfare party. I wonder what their political stances are? And I was reminded of my nick here.


I think that's a bit sad. It's like going to the grocery store never looking at anything but milk, bread and ham. You could've checked which parties are taking part!

Don't take this as an attack, just a friendly reminder for the next elections

That some European voters were blocked from voting is not just sad, it's unacceptable. I read about brexit and British politics since around November and have obviously seen some blunders. But this isn't pissing away money with a bad ferry deal, this is neglecting the basis of democracy. Even hardcore brexit people should look at this and see it.


I agree and its typical of the May government.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25527 Posts
May 23 2019 21:13 GMT
#10486
As an aside fair play to the Brexit party I wouldn’t look down my nose at them.

Somehow Remain haven’t managed to channel anything even close to as cohesive, despite plenty of people myself included being extremely pissed off at the possibility of leaving.


'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-23 22:28:37
May 23 2019 21:14 GMT
#10487
I already know which party I was going to vote for, schaf. I just wanted to set up a joke. But I agree, this business of European voters not being able to vote is simply unacceptable. It should not had been allowed to occur.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
May 23 2019 22:48 GMT
#10488
Dan Hannan thinks Cons will get 0 MEPs

iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4335 Posts
May 24 2019 03:48 GMT
#10489
On May 23 2019 18:17 Acrofales wrote:
Remember when Bush had a shoe thrown at him and the internet thought that was hilarious?

It was hilarious.Because Bush (and Blair) are war criminals.Responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands.Whereas Farage is trying to run a campaign based around delivering the democratic outcome of a referendum 17.4 million voted in favour of.

Anyway the radicalised remainers milkshaked an 82 year old military veteran yesterday who was wearing a brexit party rosette.Was in the papers, was retweeted by Farage and Piers Morgan.Only helps Brexit Party guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4335 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-24 03:51:44
May 24 2019 03:50 GMT
#10490
On May 24 2019 07:48 Zaros wrote:
Dan Hannan thinks Cons will get 0 MEPs

https://twitter.com/DanielJHannan/status/1131669660385062912

His youtube video a couple days back (on his danhannanmp channel) reeked of desperation, begging people to vote conservative.I still like the guy though, wish him best for the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
May 24 2019 05:27 GMT
#10491
On May 24 2019 12:48 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 18:17 Acrofales wrote:
Remember when Bush had a shoe thrown at him and the internet thought that was hilarious?

It was hilarious.Because Bush (and Blair) are war criminals.Responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands.Whereas Farage is trying to run a campaign based around delivering the democratic outcome of a referendum 17.4 million voted in favour of.

Anyway the radicalised remainers milkshaked an 82 year old military veteran yesterday who was wearing a brexit party rosette.Was in the papers, was retweeted by Farage and Piers Morgan.Only helps Brexit Party guys.

I don't believe it to be less hilarious that farage got a sugary drink thrown at him. The power dynamic between Bush and the shoe thrower was different as the former just invaded the latter's country (I suppose), which is why it can be interpreted as a desperate act of defiance.

Whereas farage needs to be grounded to stop his delusions that the country backs his stupid decisions.

Regarding the old guy, I find it rather overboard. Though he took it with a good humour and more dignity than farage could muster up all his life. If you read his statements in the telegraph you could say he's the antidote to outrage politics.
passive quaranstream fan
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25527 Posts
May 24 2019 05:44 GMT
#10492
On May 24 2019 14:27 Artisreal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 12:48 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On May 23 2019 18:17 Acrofales wrote:
Remember when Bush had a shoe thrown at him and the internet thought that was hilarious?

It was hilarious.Because Bush (and Blair) are war criminals.Responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands.Whereas Farage is trying to run a campaign based around delivering the democratic outcome of a referendum 17.4 million voted in favour of.

Anyway the radicalised remainers milkshaked an 82 year old military veteran yesterday who was wearing a brexit party rosette.Was in the papers, was retweeted by Farage and Piers Morgan.Only helps Brexit Party guys.

I don't believe it to be less hilarious that farage got a sugary drink thrown at him. The power dynamic between Bush and the shoe thrower was different as the former just invaded the latter's country (I suppose), which is why it can be interpreted as a desperate act of defiance.

Whereas farage needs to be grounded to stop his delusions that the country backs his stupid decisions.

Regarding the old guy, I find it rather overboard. Though he took it with a good humour and more dignity than farage could muster up all his life. If you read his statements in the telegraph you could say he's the antidote to outrage politics.

What delusions though? I don’t think it’s the majority of the country today if there’s a second referendum, it’s still a really sizeable amount of folks.

The antidote to outrage politics isn’t the victims of it taking it in good grace, it’s idiotic twats taking a look at themselves and their ridiculous worldviews.

It’s the EU, a flawed institution even if you like it on balance, some people act like voting to leave it is like telling them you voted for the right to kick puppies in the face.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
May 24 2019 05:50 GMT
#10493
A antidote to outrage politics is to stop blowing anecdotal evidence out of proportion
passive quaranstream fan
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25527 Posts
May 24 2019 06:11 GMT
#10494
What like the day after Brexit when all these images appeared of people with ‘foreigners out’ notes stuck on their cars and stuff?

Mr veteran milkshake victim could have completely made the thing up, it still rings true as part of a wider trend, least to me anyway.

I don’t like the view that some people propagate that around 50% of the adult population of the UK are stupid, bad people or both anyway just because I don’t agree with it, secondly pragmatically because it gives victim fuel to them to accomplish goals I don’t want them to accomplish, such as Brexit.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
May 24 2019 06:37 GMT
#10495
Latest Westminster Poll is interesting



Would lead to a Labour Coalition with Lib Dems and SNP (If they were interested) but Brexit Party would get 100 seats from what I can tell.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9662 Posts
May 24 2019 09:20 GMT
#10496
Theresa May is resigning.

No surprise.

Its been a nightmare Theresa, I appreciate probably nearly as much for her as it has for the entire rest of the country.

I'm glad she's gone.

RIP Meatloaf <3
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
May 24 2019 09:20 GMT
#10497


the end of her speech was a bit hard to watch. i don't know how she lasted that long in the job, given the impossible situation she was in.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21734 Posts
May 24 2019 09:24 GMT
#10498
I look forward to her replacement failing to resolve the Brexit situation in any way whatsoever aswell
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25527 Posts
May 24 2019 09:25 GMT
#10499
On May 24 2019 18:20 ahswtini wrote:


the end of her speech was a bit hard to watch. i don't know how she lasted that long in the job, given the impossible situation she was in.

Would have been nice if she tore strips out of people, extremely unlikely but still.

Think she had a borderline impossible job that she somehow managed to make harder, but would not have begrudged her that at all.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11540 Posts
May 24 2019 09:27 GMT
#10500
Yeah. British internal bickering continues, still nothing on how and if to brexit. And now there will be a new PM, who will once again spout lots and lots of unicorn tales about a brexit deal, and then want to start negotiations with the EU completely anew.
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