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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 27 2019 20:22 GMT
#10061
Odds for next PM if anyone is interested.

Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-27 21:15:54
March 27 2019 21:03 GMT
#10062
The DUP won't support the deal. If they stick to it, and by their fanaticly unionistic conviction they probably will, May is in deep deep trouble. Foster just released a statement.

The DUP and the government have had good discussions in recent days and some progress on domestic legislation has been made. All concerned recognise the need to ensure that as we leave the European Union the economic and constitutional integrity of the United Kingdom is maintained.
However, given the fact that the necessary changes we seek to the backstop have not been secured between the government and the European Union, and the remaining and ongoing strategic risk that Northern Ireland would be trapped in backstop arrangements at the end of the implementation period, we will not be supporting the government if they table a fresh meaningful vote.
The backstop if operational has the potential to create an internal trade border within the United Kingdom and would cut us off from our main internal market, being Great Britain.
We want to secure the United Kingdom’s departure from, and our future relationship with, the European Union on terms that accord with our key objectives to ensure the integrity of the United Kingdom.
In our view the current withdrawal agreement does not do so and the backstop, which we warned this government against from its first inception, poses an unacceptable threat to the integrity of the United Kingdom and will inevitably limit the United Kingdom’s ability to negotiate on the type of future relationship with the EU.


Edit: Ironically, the only thing that looks to be able to save May is Corbyn's whipping for a second referendum. Question is if that will push enough Labour leave MPs to support her deal. Probably not.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
March 27 2019 21:43 GMT
#10063
MP's have voted for nothing lol
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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 27 2019 21:44 GMT
#10064
On March 28 2019 06:43 Pandemona wrote:
MP's have voted for nothing lol


What a suprise
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21754 Posts
March 27 2019 21:46 GMT
#10065
On March 26 2019 07:44 Gorsameth wrote:
So Parliament has taken some measure of control of Brexit.
I eagerly await for none of their options to get a majority vote and everyone to have a big old facepalm.
Long live the predictable Britains...

No-deal, 2 weeks and counting.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1974 Posts
March 27 2019 21:46 GMT
#10066
brexit in an emoji



even with the power struggling going on, still no majority for *anything*
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9672 Posts
March 27 2019 21:48 GMT
#10067
Absolute bunch of fucking goons.
Some of those MPs that were laughing as it happened should be ashamed of themselves.
They're an embarrassment.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 27 2019 21:49 GMT
#10068
On March 28 2019 06:48 Jockmcplop wrote:
Absolute bunch of fucking goons.
Some of those MPs that were laughing as it happened should be ashamed of themselves.
They're an embarrassment.


They are probably people who want to leave on no deal and think this supports their position.
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1974 Posts
March 27 2019 21:52 GMT
#10069
god these fucking elected children in parliament, what a joke this country is
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21754 Posts
March 27 2019 21:53 GMT
#10070
On March 28 2019 06:48 Jockmcplop wrote:
Absolute bunch of fucking goons.
Some of those MPs that were laughing as it happened should be ashamed of themselves.
They're an embarrassment.
its a horrible look towards the public for sure, but I find myself sitting here laughing aswell because this is the shitshow I, and likely they aswell, suspected would happen.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 27 2019 21:53 GMT
#10071
On March 28 2019 06:52 Garrl wrote:
god these fucking elected children in parliament, what a joke this country is


The Speaker is out of order though, completely biased and constantly insulting conservatives.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
March 27 2019 21:55 GMT
#10072
I do hate it when they don't let eachother speak its very childish, i mean there is never anything aggressive in our parliaments compared to others around the world but its very very childish.

So now the question is, will anyone who voted today for something now want to switch to back May's deal. She needs around 12-15 votes as im sure all the ERG are voting for it.
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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 27 2019 21:57 GMT
#10073
On March 28 2019 06:55 Pandemona wrote:
I do hate it when they don't let eachother speak its very childish, i mean there is never anything aggressive in our parliaments compared to others around the world but its very very childish.

So now the question is, will anyone who voted today for something now want to switch to back May's deal. She needs around 12-15 votes as im sure all the ERG are voting for it.


Not all ERG are voting for it, still 20+ against and DUP are against which is another 10.

Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
March 27 2019 22:01 GMT
#10074
Has been no confirmation on those ERG members not backing it has there? I just assumed that they all listen to Boris now as they know they have no chance etc etc. Guess not?
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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 27 2019 22:03 GMT
#10075
On March 28 2019 07:01 Pandemona wrote:
Has been no confirmation on those ERG members not backing it has there? I just assumed that they all listen to Boris now as they know they have no chance etc etc. Guess not?


There was one ERG member on bbc saying still against, Steve Baker (Deputy of the ERG and in some ways more influential than Boris) is against and gave this speech.

Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
March 27 2019 22:05 GMT
#10076
Wow that's a bit aggressive isn't it! I see i guess he is a no then!
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pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1352 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-27 22:21:58
March 27 2019 22:18 GMT
#10077
Well that didn't solve all that much.
Now whats next.

The odds are interesting. Its tempting to bet against Johnson but you only get 20%.
I doubt it will be labour either,everything in Europe is moving towards the right of the spectrum and I don't think Britain will be much different.

@below:a ty.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 27 2019 22:18 GMT
#10078
On March 28 2019 07:18 pmh wrote:
Well that didn't solve all that much.
Now whats next.


MV3 vote possibly on friday, or a general election/coup followed by general election.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9127 Posts
March 27 2019 22:19 GMT
#10079
40 Labour MPs voted against or abstained on the confirmatory referendum option
12 Labour MPs voted against the customs union option

Those two lost by 27 and 8 votes, respectively
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 27 2019 22:20 GMT
#10080
Remember Cabinet abstained on every vote so some of these in a "proper" vote would lose more heavily.
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