On November 23 2005 18:57 Fayth[pG] wrote:
ok so everyone that think it's all bullshit and really stupid, try to get a ouija board, use it seriously, then u'll know. And i can guarantee you won't like it.

I did. I moved it around myself to fuck with everyone. You do know the secret underground rule dont you?

Chraej

United States246 Posts

November 23 2005 11:43 GMT

#82

yeah i've head that ouija boards are freaky, i've never used one though, everyone that uses them gets freaked though.

smfd

United States423 Posts

November 23 2005 12:22 GMT

#83

Exorcism is real but people look at the word as some crazy demonic thing which it is not. possesion and demons are fake. The storys however are true, but people have changed them and put there own words into them over time. There is a spirtual side, and a reality side to exorcism, the spiritual side is the side where people believe demons have walked into an individuals body, and took control over them. I don't believe that is real, people can however lose control of thereself. The exorcists put evil upon thereselves because they either hate themselves for doing something wrong in the past, then they go insane, or they have been traumatized. People like Emily Rose for example create these images and demons in there head, kind of like they have 2 personalitys, then they become so upset, and so much is going throw there mind that they force themselves to do things like drink there own piss. Exorcism is not natural or spirtual, anybody can be an exorcist if they want to. exorcism is a mental illness.

Chraej

United States246 Posts

November 23 2005 12:35 GMT

#84

Why fight with all your might to not believe something so simple, and apparently, evident as this footage and the existance of demons? alot of posters cant stand the thought and believe that they have somehow dividned the answer to life and its mysteries in a snap.

NewbSaibot

3849 Posts

November 23 2005 14:45 GMT

#85

and some people cannot stand the thought of not knowing so bad that they must make up shit in order to sleep at night. The unknown is a scary thought sometimes, some of us can handle it, some cant.

And please man, that "video evidence" did nothing but further solidify my disbelief in exorcism. All i saw were bored attention starved house wives.

Knosi

13 Posts

November 23 2005 15:11 GMT

#86

"The Bible never says that human soul life exists inside the womb(physical body)."

Meaning there is no soul in our bodies as of now. We need to evolve as HUMANS to earn it. We are soulless, however we do have something divine namely our pineal gland located in the middle of the brain. We need to train it again because it hasn't been used for who knows how long.

"people who live a certain way or achieve certain things are described sometimes as being divine (see the bhudda boi who meditates for ages THEN starts to exhibit divine properties). is this because spirits (whatever) are attracted to them/their way of life/purity/strength of soul/whatever?"

Noone exhibits divine properties, you earn them. And not by just meditating like the most people do. But by meditating how your supposed to. That is leaving your body mindless so you can reach a higher dimension than then just the fifth(dreamworld). In this dimension you can eliminate your ego's. The more ego's you free, the more Christ you become. So in the end if you have eliminated all your ego's, you are a god and you can walk on water etc.

There are so many more details but I don't have the time to explain it, nor do I have the energy because I'm writing this for maybe a few interested. The rest will flame me.

http://www.gnosis-usa.com is where you will find the information if you are intestered in this, the practices you will need to do to evolve.

vGl-CoW

Belgium8305 Posts

November 23 2005 19:26 GMT

#87

oh Knosi is with the gnostici, that explains a lot haha

and as for Chraej, Newbsaibot pretty much nailed it right there. First of all, I don't need to see with my own eyes that the world is round or whatever, that's not at all what I said, there just needs to be proof that can be put forth.
Second of all, yeah, proof of burden is on you, of course. If you make up something crazy, it's up to you to prove it, not to the rest to disprove it. If you disagree, go prove that the flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist.

The footage doesn't prove ANYTHING. Go take a look in your average mental institution, you'll see plenty of people that look like they're regular demon-motels by the way they're behaving. Does this mean they're possessed? No, they're just insane.

Believing in stuff is basically nothing more than accepting easy answers to the unknown. I don't know how the universe was created, but I'd rather wait till science figures it out (and they're doing a fine job on it, too) than to just assume some almighty entity created it.

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

November 23 2005 20:19 GMT

#88

http://skepdic.com/ouija.html
Yawn
;p

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

November 23 2005 20:20 GMT

#89

On November 23 2005 18:53 Chraej wrote:
and that movie is evidence of possession...so...if you research it, its well documented indeed. If all that is false, why couldnt your view of the earth be false...saying someone sailed the world and took photos doesnt prove anything if saying someone recorded, witnessed, and confessed to being possessed doesnt prove anything...logic?

Didn't even watch the movie, but from the description, no.
The evidence put forth by your side is not in the least bit scientific or unbiased.. It's testimonials by people who have something to gain, or don't know any better -_-

MrCrowley

Zaire67 Posts

November 23 2005 20:43 GMT

#90

Omfg she's insane...but let's say she has demons so that we can publicize the existence of demons so that the gullible people will follow God!

lebowskiguy

Greece201 Posts

November 23 2005 23:41 GMT

#91

On November 24 2005 05:19 FrozenArbiter wrote:

Show nested quote +

http://skepdic.com/ouija.html
Yawn
;p

lol
http://skepdic.com/exorcism.html
for those who are too bored reading all these posts to reach to a conclusion,here's what these guys say about exorcism.