Exorcism - devil possession or mental illness? - Page 4
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imRadu
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vGl-CoW
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sadly this is nowhere near the case | ||
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Chibi[OWNS]
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mitsy
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Chibi[OWNS]
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DaN[SES]
United States167 Posts
Does parapsychology possess any significant body of theory concerning what a nonmaterial being is like, a theory of what nonphysical elements compose it, and what nonphysical laws govern their interactions with each other and with the various aspects of the material world? Importantly, this question concerns only the EXISTENCE of of relevant theory, not its verification. Does parapsychology have any significant body of generally shared theory with which to even address the empirical phenomena? The sad fact of it is, it does not. This a fact that separates it from other 'theoretical underdogs' that become accepted theories. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 23 2005 08:13 Knosi wrote: Have you ever used an ouija-bord? It is used to summon ghosts/entities. You've probably heard of it. Anyway do some research about it. The reason it is so dangerous is because noone knows exactly what happens. Well basically u let the entity take possesion over your body so it will give you the answers you ask it. If a strong ghost/entity does NOT want to leave your body it will stay till driven out. And that is a fact my friend. And I suppose you know this because you've been possesed in this way yourself? | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 23 2005 10:32 Chibi[OWNS] wrote: mitsy this is a serious discussion about ghosts............ Rofl | ||
Chibi[OWNS]
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Aerox
Malaysia1213 Posts
One of the demons called himself Hitler, and spoke with a Frankish accent (Hitler was born in Austria). Not one of those present during the exorcism ever had a doubt about the authenticity of the presence of these demons. They nickname themselves. It doesn't have to mean it's the real Lucifer or Judas or Cain..etc(It's possible they may be the real ones but it's almost impossible to prove). Most likely like a codename specifically for their mission which that time is attacking Emily Rose (Annaliese Michel). One thing I've read about is that they ever named themselves according to specialties. For instance, Gluttony, Greed, Lust, Pride....etc. This possession is using names of big characters in the bible. I think they're naming themselves according to rank for this possession. Damn tricky evil demons. There have been an exorcism where they pretend to be cured where it's only one demon who left the possessed person. The priest knew that it is trick through what is known as the Holy Spirit which I won't further elaborate except that it's something or someone on the good side. (I'll tell that the Holy Spirit is real through experience but I can't properly prove it .....yet?). Anyways, before that Catholic priest was called, that possessed guy had been "exorcised" by Buddhist & Taoist priests but which the demons "returned" or more specifically reactivate. Hope we humans can vaporize them into non-existence or use them to power our "Matrix" for messing in our lives.... | ||
ObsoleteLogic
United States3676 Posts
Anyway... I think that the mere fact that humans can conceive of the notion of something empirically unverifiable, and even conceptualize (in a strictly non-physical sense) the actuality of such a thing, shows something to us. It's inconsistant with the rest of our nature; we can conceive of the notion of a different color than those we can perceive, but can we conceptualize it? It's a rather interesting thought, I think (: | ||
p0p
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Chraej
United States246 Posts
On November 22 2005 16:22 Terran)Timmay wrote: Well, I think that exorcisms are real because the people who are "possessed" beleive they are real. There is nothing to create reality other than human perception, thus, if one beleives they are truely possessed, and they beleive only an exorcism will expell the demon, then its real enough for them, and thats all the really matters. On November 23 2005 09:57 vGl-CoW wrote: of course, I consider everything bullshit till it has been soundly and irrefutably proven and I think that's how everyone should evaluate data sadly this is nowhere near the case i dont understand you people who have this strange view of reality that it only includes what you can touch see and hear personally. It is very ignorant to think the world is as simple as that...and if thats not the case, what defines normal/reality in your eyes? None of you have ever been to outter space or seen it with yoru own two eyes, how do you know it exists? other planets? Even other countries, how do you know there are other continents in the world if you've never been to them, or seen the entire planet as a whole, proving to you that its not just one big landmass that the evil government has seperated into regions and made them into "countries" in our eyes. you say give evidence to support/prove it? give me evidence to refute it! ...anyone up for a 1v1? | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 23 2005 18:18 Chraej wrote: i dont understand you people who have this strange view of reality that it only includes what you can touch see and hear personally. It is very ignorant to think the world is as simple as that...and if thats not the case, what defines normal/reality in your eyes? None of you have ever been to outter space or seen it with yoru own two eyes, how do you know it exists? other planets? Even other countries, how do you know there are other continents in the world if you've never been to them, or seen the entire planet as a whole, proving to you that its not just one big landmass that the evil government has seperated into regions and made them into "countries" in our eyes. you say give evidence to support/prove it? give me evidence to refute it! ...anyone up for a 1v1? Because people have been sailing for the past 123819028390 years, maybe THAT'S why we know it's not one gigantic pizz a -_-------------- MAYBE all the hundreds of photos from space are a million times better than the evidence you've got working for your side -_- Sure, if you want to argue for exocism etc, that's fine.. But comparing it to something so well documented as what you just compared it to is stupid! | ||
Chraej
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NewbSaibot
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Scientists do not require that they themselves have tangible proof of something, simply that someone does, and that person can show it if called upon. Then of course there is some faith in abstract theories like the big bang and so forth when it comes to things that have no direct proof in existence, yet have so many other backings to support them excluding you from hypocrisy. Exorcism has absolutely nothing backing it up other than another person's opinion. | ||
Fayth[pG]
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