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NeXiLe
Canada262 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12128 Posts
On June 19 2012 17:21 NeXiLe wrote: Anyone seen any reviews/comparisons of the NA version (1.5 dual core, 2gb ram?) I actually just found out that this version is different when I had been planning to get it for a while now >< Don't know how it compares to the quad core. You should get it anyway. :D I've heard that the 2 GB RAM is like a flagrant 2: both excessive and unnecessary. However, it's still a nice thing to have because it helps future-proof the phone as apps grow larger take up more memory (potentially). The processor you shouldn't worry about being "worse". Yes, it benchmarks worse and generally does not perform as well as the exynos (quad-core) processor, but quad core phones are essentially a marketing gimmick because there is no way you'll be using 100% of every core--and even if you somehow are, you're going to rape your phone's battery. Unfortunately I don't have numbers on that, but more than 2 cores is truly excessive and unnecessary (more so than the RAM), though the exynos does perform better than krait (the dual core in the NA variant). It really shouldn't matter, and krait is also very efficient. The exynos has a really good gpu (mali-400) but honestly you shouldn't be playing hardcore 3D games etc, so the s4 krait should be more than enough. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On June 19 2012 17:21 NeXiLe wrote: Anyone seen any reviews/comparisons of the NA version (1.5 dual core, 2gb ram?) I actually just found out that this version is different when I had been planning to get it for a while now >< Don't know how it compares to the quad core. From what I hear, the dual core is just as fast if not faster than the quad core. Which kind of makes sense to me considering how poorly threaded most applications are on phones. | ||
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VenomBRA
Netherlands168 Posts
Anyone here tried both? I have some friends who own Galaxy Nexuses and are very happy with it. Yesterday I played with an S3 for half an hour and it seemed nice, but I found the interface strange (from being used to HTC Sense and "native" ICS from using emulators and such). The hardware improvements do not seem to matter much, except for the camera which appear to perform considerably better on low light conditions. Larger battery and quad core processor do not seem to really matter as much as I first though, after reading some reviews yesterday. Price difference also does not really matter. | ||
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Mzh
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On June 19 2012 18:09 VenomBRA wrote: I'm ordering a new phone this week and can't decide for either the Galaxy Nexus or S3. My previous phone was a HTC Sensation, which got ICS eventually (with weeks of delay), so I'm afraid of getting the S3 and regretting all the bloatware from TouchWiz and lateness of future Android upgrades in the future. Anyone here tried both? I have some friends who own Galaxy Nexuses and are very happy with it. Yesterday I played with an S3 for half an hour and it seemed nice, but I found the interface strange (from being used to HTC Sense and "native" ICS from using emulators and such). The hardware improvements do not seem to matter much, except for the camera which appear to perform considerably better on low light conditions. Larger battery and quad core processor do not seem to really matter as much as I first though, after reading some reviews yesterday. Price difference also does not really matter. I wouldn't worry too much about TouchWiz, worst case scenario, you simply root it and install another ROM. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On June 19 2012 19:50 Mzh wrote: What is this ICS you speak of? Ice Cream Sandwich, the "cute name" for Android 4.0. | ||
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delchuu
Germany166 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On June 19 2012 18:09 VenomBRA wrote: I'm ordering a new phone this week and can't decide for either the Galaxy Nexus or S3. My previous phone was a HTC Sensation, which got ICS eventually (with weeks of delay), so I'm afraid of getting the S3 and regretting all the bloatware from TouchWiz and lateness of future Android upgrades in the future. Anyone here tried both? I have some friends who own Galaxy Nexuses and are very happy with it. Yesterday I played with an S3 for half an hour and it seemed nice, but I found the interface strange (from being used to HTC Sense and "native" ICS from using emulators and such). The hardware improvements do not seem to matter much, except for the camera which appear to perform considerably better on low light conditions. Larger battery and quad core processor do not seem to really matter as much as I first though, after reading some reviews yesterday. Price difference also does not really matter. i would.. get the S3. if you really need the latest version of android and all that stuff theres always custom ROMs  cyanogenmod ftw.if you can wait though, i'm sure there';ll be a new Nexus coming out in a few more months. the rumour is that there might be several Nexuses in fact, made by different manufacturers instead of just samsung | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On June 19 2012 18:09 VenomBRA wrote: I'm ordering a new phone this week and can't decide for either the Galaxy Nexus or S3. My previous phone was a HTC Sensation, which got ICS eventually (with weeks of delay), so I'm afraid of getting the S3 and regretting all the bloatware from TouchWiz and lateness of future Android upgrades in the future. Anyone here tried both? I have some friends who own Galaxy Nexuses and are very happy with it. Yesterday I played with an S3 for half an hour and it seemed nice, but I found the interface strange (from being used to HTC Sense and "native" ICS from using emulators and such). The hardware improvements do not seem to matter much, except for the camera which appear to perform considerably better on low light conditions. Larger battery and quad core processor do not seem to really matter as much as I first though, after reading some reviews yesterday. Price difference also does not really matter. There are some problems with the Verizon's version of the Galaxy Nexus ranging from a difference in how the LED flash operates, which is a problem for some flashlight apps, and the fact its running like half a dozen generations of cellular radios, which is obviously problematic. LTE is kind of pointless anyway since you don't really need mega download speeds and LTE is still a huge battery drain for just about everything but the Razr Maxx. As far as I know, the GSM version is perfectly fine so try and get that model. The benefit of the Galaxy Nexus is official software support from Google and the fact you'll nearly certainly get software updates first. People can say what they want but nothing can take that away. Not even Cyanogenmod and the developer community. There is also a huge price difference (or at least there is in Australia). The Galaxy Nexus is around half the price of the Galaxy S3. If you want to play a lot of games, the answer is obvious. That is the only real reason for spec increases these days let's be honest. For a phone-phone, specs are meaningless these days. Google has pulled their finger out of their asses so ICS is not a sluggish piece of shit like Gingerbread was. ICS updates tends to turn really shitty phones into quite competent machines. Even the ancient single core machines, like the Xperia Mini Pro (this is actually a really cool phone), run very smooth with proper ICS updates. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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NeXiLe
Canada262 Posts
On June 19 2012 17:30 Aerisky wrote: You should get it anyway. :D I've heard that the 2 GB RAM is like a flagrant 2: both excessive and unnecessary. However, it's still a nice thing to have because it helps future-proof the phone as apps grow larger take up more memory (potentially). The processor you shouldn't worry about being "worse". Yes, it benchmarks worse and generally does not perform as well as the exynos (quad-core) processor, but quad core phones are essentially a marketing gimmick because there is no way you'll be using 100% of every core--and even if you somehow are, you're going to rape your phone's battery. Unfortunately I don't have numbers on that, but more than 2 cores is truly excessive and unnecessary (more so than the RAM), though the exynos does perform better than krait (the dual core in the NA variant). It really shouldn't matter, and krait is also very efficient. The exynos has a really good gpu (mali-400) but honestly you shouldn't be playing hardcore 3D games etc, so the s4 krait should be more than enough. Thanks for the detailed reply, the reason I asked is because the only thing I've seen comparing them is this and the quad core seems way way wayyyyyyy smoother than the dual core but it's also not really a professional comparison, you can even see the dual core has a lot more stuff running on it as there's like 10 notifications up top. I guess I'll wait 'til release and play with one myself or look at reviews then ^^ So far though, I kind of still want it. The only part that I'm not a huge fan of is the shape and look of it. I prefer the looks of my nexus but my gf needs a phone so she can have this and I'll have the latest xD | ||
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Aerisky
United States12128 Posts
@Womwomwom: listen up all y'all that's a huge point about hardware he just made. Hardware has moved so ridiculously fast in terms of improvements etc. The only reason you really need a top-of-the-line SoC nowadays is for gaming.otherwise there is pretty much no reason to go spec hunting and drooling over good specs, ESPECIALLY with the ICS update. With regard to gnex vs sgs3 though, sgs3 will have the latest ICS anyway so it doesn't really matter. Yes gnex should be getting updates first and yes it will be stock (which most people consider better than touchwiz and other such OEM custom versions of Android...though for sgs3 you get a lot of special features such as PiP, the eye scanning thing, S-beam, etc), but the point of CM and stuff is that you can get essentially the same version not long after gnex....though ok you'll have to do some work yourself. Honestly I think the sgs3 OS will be better because of said features, but CM 9 says they will combine the best features of different OEMs' versions and that could be greater incentive to value rooting and modification over just quick vanilla OS updates. Kind of slogged through with my language and worded that rather poorly, sorry if that didn't make sense. @NeXiLe: yeah that's the spirit, you should always go try out phones in person. It seems like a no-brainer, but you'd be surprised by the number of people who make impulse buys or whatever especially with how good of a deal you can get online and whatnot. Though you might have intended to buy it from a brick-and-mortar store in the first place, in which case nvm but yeah be sure to try it out in person  | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
Android isn't like iOS where you basically get updates for your phone for its usable life. LG has basically abandoned their year old devices, Samsung has basically abandoned the Galaxy S, which isn't even really that old, and god knows what HTC and Motorola are doing. The quality of software support from non-Google phones is so bad that Sony is actually the most honest since they've just completed updating their whole 2011 lineup (minus Xperia Play, which they gave a reason for) to ICS. Yes CM can fix it (no not really but at least you get the next Android version in some capacity) but why should you support a hardware manufacturer that pretty much treats you like shit and says "if you want updates or even half decent software, buy our new phone"? Doesn't make sense to me at all. Edit: Shit like this is just embarrassing. No where near as bad as HTC's multitasking fuck up but its still pretty stupid. Seriously, why would you even do this? I have no idea, its like Samsung didn't get the memo that ICS eliminated this bullshit. As for storage, Sprint's offering 16- and 32-gigabyte versions. We've got the 32GB version here, and Samsung has split the storage at 12GB as internal "phone storage" (for installing apps and whatever else you want), and another 12GB that's recognized as an internal SD card. My math sucks but 12+12 = 24. That least 8GB in limbo...it definitely can't be all reserved for the OS can it? | ||
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VenomBRA
Netherlands168 Posts
On June 20 2012 13:09 Aerisky wrote: @alffla: I dunno, I think you'll have to wait at least half a year for the next Nexus phone. The Nexus tablet is going to be announced at IO 2012 soon, but for a new Nexus phone to come out, it'll take a while regardless of what the next manufacturer will be. Interestingly enough the Galaxy Nexus is the least "google phone"-like Nexus to come out. It's samsung branded and I forget what exactly the issue with it was, but a lot of people were very unsatisfied with the degree of Samsung influence on it, but again I forget exactly what was so bad about it. There are some rumorsthat the next flagship Nexus phone will not be one but several devices, from different manufacturers. http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/05/nexus-smartphones-who-wins-and-loses-if-google-launches-android-5/ According to it, the wait should not be THAT long, they'll be out this fall. | ||
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darkponcho
United States262 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12128 Posts
On June 20 2012 18:13 Womwomwom wrote: But it won't get Jelly Bean as quickly as a Nexus device or whatever Google is calling Android 5. That's the thing. You actually get prompt updates from Google for further operating systems and Google generally has a vested interest in making the software as good as possible. And you can be fairly certain the updates will be relatively bug free and won't kill battery life, etc. Android isn't like iOS where you basically get updates for your phone for its usable life. LG has basically abandoned their year old devices, Samsung has basically abandoned the Galaxy S, which isn't even really that old, and god knows what HTC and Motorola are doing. The quality of software support from non-Google phones is so bad that Sony is actually the most honest since they've just completed updating their whole 2011 lineup (minus Xperia Play, which they gave a reason for) to ICS. Yes CM can fix it (no not really but at least you get the next Android version in some capacity) but why should you support a hardware manufacturer that pretty much treats you like shit and says "if you want updates or even half decent software, buy our new phone"? Doesn't make sense to me at all. Edit: Shit like this is just embarrassing. No where near as bad as HTC's multitasking fuck up but its still pretty stupid. Seriously, why would you even do this? I have no idea, its like Samsung didn't get the memo that ICS eliminated this bullshit. My math sucks but 12+12 = 24. That least 8GB in limbo...it definitely can't be all reserved for the OS can it? Yeah, fair enough I guess. I'm aware of how Android updates are lol. You don't necessarily have to go the CM route (though again, CM 9 potentially will offer the best of all of the worlds, i.e. much more customized experience, and you also can have the SGS3 features without bloat and whatnot. You also won't be limited to stock ICS (which is still great ofc), but obviously does not include the several--and they are there--features that OEM versions of Android have that will actually be useful. Also you can usually just get stock ICS or Jelly Bean etc on your device if you want it, because the dev community is so active anyway. But all in all, yes of course Nexus phones will have the most efficient updates, goes without saying. But lot of people on gnex (for instance) go to AOKP and related anyway, so stock Android is by no means the most desirable iteration of Android for everybody, even though it may well be the way to go for the average user assuming he values getting regular updates/support more than whatever features OEM versions of Android can offer (and also assuming that average implies he or she doesn't want/know how to root). @VenomBRA: your article is weird though. The WSJ article it cites uses a ton of weasel words. "Google plans to give multiple mobile-device makers early access to new releases of Android and to sell those devices directly to consumers, said people familiar with the matter." The plan also aims to assuage concerns of smartphone and tablet makers that build devices using Android, many of whom are wary of Google because of its pending acquisition of device-maker Motorola Mobility Holdings Inc., these people said. A Google spokeswoman declined to comment. There's almost nothing concrete about this, and while you're supposed to protect your sources or whatnot, the WSJ article and the wired article citing it were literally the only two I could find about the matter. I dunno though, you could be right. @darkponcho: yeah it'll probably drop after a while like all phones do. Don't expect more than a $50-100 drop though lol. Usually it'll be cheaper to buy online (you can still get a contract on VZ etc). | ||
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VenomBRA
Netherlands168 Posts
@VenomBRA: your article is weird though. The WSJ article it cites uses a ton of weasel words. There's almost nothing concrete about this, and while you're supposed to protect your sources or whatnot, the WSJ article and the wired article citing it were literally the only two I could find about the matter. I dunno though, you could be right. Yeah, it's just a rumor now. But I thought it made a lot of sense, after Google's Motorola acquisition and how they're working quite closely with HTC and Samsung lately. | ||
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
Then again, that's coming from this. From the speed its shown so far, i'm rather reluctant to actually install anything interesting on it. Might beat my desktop, lol. | ||
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Namenlos
Germany96 Posts
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