The most anticipated android phone of the year. After the massive success of the S2, the S3 has alot of weight to carry and many see it as the true competitor to the iPhone 5.
Hardware: - 1.4 Ghz Quad Core Exynos 4 - 4.8" 720p Super AMOLED - 8MP zero shutter lag rear camera (2MP front) - 16/32GB storage (micro SD expandable)
Software: - TouchWiz (running Android 4.0.4) - S-Voice: advanced voice recognition (siri) - Best Photo: takes burst shots, automatically recommends the best one - Smart stay: keeps the screen awake while you're looking at the display (without touching the screen) - Popup play: resize and float videos on top of any other window (eg. can watch a video clip and sms at the same time).
iPhone 5 hasn't even been announced yet, how would it even be a competitor? What if the iPhone 5 has whole new capabilities in a phone that no one can dream of?
On April 23 2012 14:40 ShoCkeyy wrote: iPhone 5 hasn't even been announced yet, how would it even be a competitor? What if the iPhone 5 has whole new capabilities in a phone that no one can dream of?
I remember drooling over the S2 when it was first announced. Strapped for cash right now after spending it on a nice new PC. So I guess I'll have to pass on this one lol.
But I am guessing it's going to look awesome and I'll be jealous of people who'll be having it. xD
I'm not really seeing how this device is going to be better than the HTC One X. Specs at this point don't really matter outside of playing video games so...
Touchwiz and Sense are not any good when it comes to skins, neither company has a great track record when it comes to software support, and I've never really seen the benefit of OLEDs in a mobile phone (presumably this is what Samsung is going to use). Amazing black depth is always cool but if you're going to mess with the colour temperature/RGB levels to preserve the weak blue subpixels, what's the point? Most Galaxy S II screens seem to have an heavy green bias to me and it itches my OCD side because I know what a calibrated screen looks like.
4.8" is a ridiculous size if its true though its probably the right size if you're going to go full bezel-less. How are you going to hold a smaller bezel-less phone without touching the screen?
screen from edge to edge? that seems very cumbersome. it'll mean i have to hold my phone by the edge without any of the fingertips going over and accidentally press something on the touchscreen.
On April 23 2012 14:40 ShoCkeyy wrote: iPhone 5 hasn't even been announced yet, how would it even be a competitor? What if the iPhone 5 has whole new capabilities in a phone that no one can dream of?
iphone having a groundbreaking new feature? I lold.
How likely is the s2 to drop in price when s3 is released? I somewhat regret having bought the Splus this month now
On April 23 2012 15:39 jinorazi wrote: screen from edge to edge? that seems very cumbersome. it'll mean i have to hold my phone by the edge without any of the fingertips going over and accidentally press something on the touchscreen.
How is it any different if its touch all over than almost all over? Its not like you ever hold on the side with the screen on anyways..
I'm looking to finally delve into the smartphone market after using old shitty phones for years and years, and am pretty much set on the Galaxy S2, but with the apparent soon-release of the S3 I'm not sure if I should wait. How much more will the S3 likely cost on release, and will it actually be available on May 3rd through retailers or sometime later?
Ahh finally, i been due an upgrade since start of the month! Told the person i wanted the S3. I hope its out soon! Will keep an eye on that hype website. 3hours until its released in GMT, wonder if its locked per timezone?
On April 23 2012 16:52 Soulfire wrote: I'm looking to finally delve into the smartphone market after using old shitty phones for years and years, and am pretty much set on the Galaxy S2, but with the apparent soon-release of the S3 I'm not sure if I should wait. How much more will the S3 likely cost on release, and will it actually be available on May 3rd through retailers or sometime later?
You can pre order it with various websites if you want it as pay as you go, but if you want contract you have to organise it with whoever you want to get the phone conracted too. For me and my Vodafone contract they said they will contact me when they know when it is coming out, so as soon as Samsung set a date im sure i will get a phone call. Cost on contract for me will likely be £30-35 a month for 18months.
On April 23 2012 15:48 Caryc wrote: phone noob : does quad core do anything for a mobile phone? =o
don't know about this quad core but the nvidia quad core has better battery performance and also processing videos and overall performance improvement
My mate was learning about this in his uni course and was lol'n when i said that the Samsung S3 has quad core, he said he was taught that a phone can ever only possibly use 1core at a time to process due to it being a phone and the capabilities.
im really rather sceptical. im owner of the s2 and I love the thing to death but Im so disappointed by samsung by the way they handled the ics update. I know s2 is the heaven for more advanced users who flash their own roms and whatnot but I cant see that as an upside, imo the high end android device should have a proper and time support and be as user friendly as possible. I doubt I will upgrade to s3 regardless of any hardware improvements cause Im sure s2 is the most phone I need atm. I dont think I will buy android phone with a custom UI ever again, will gladly get the new Nexus when it comes out by the end of this year.
On April 23 2012 17:14 sharky246 wrote: isn't s3 the galaxy nexus? since its the sucessor to s2
No. Galaxy Nexus is the actual flagship Android phone that is intended to give you the pure Android experience. The Galaxy S3 is Samsung's spin on Android.
Is it sad that I am almost 25 and never owned a decent phone.ㄴ I had my first pre paid phone in college and never actually had a real decent phone or phone plan. I always use my wifes Galaxy S2. I am the one who told her to pick Galaxy S2. Haha. I plan on getting the S3 for myself because I need a decent phone for my job. I am always on the move during work.
Does watching Starcraft streams take up a lot of bandwidth on phones? I tried on my wifes phone but streams were prety laggy.
Please don't be too big, otherwise this will be the next greatest phone (slight hyperbole), I love how my SGS2 is so light and thin and still powerful with a brilliant screen.
Will have difficulties trying to justify buying it after only having bought SGS2 for like 6 months though, but I'm pretty sure I'll find a way eventually.
On April 23 2012 17:14 sharky246 wrote: isn't s3 the galaxy nexus? since its the sucessor to s2
No. Galaxy Nexus is the actual flagship Android phone that is intended to give you the pure Android experience. The Galaxy S3 is Samsung's spin on Android.
what do you mean by actual flagship android phone? And what do you mean by pure experience?spin on android?
On April 23 2012 17:14 sharky246 wrote: isn't s3 the galaxy nexus? since its the sucessor to s2
No. Galaxy Nexus is the actual flagship Android phone that is intended to give you the pure Android experience. The Galaxy S3 is Samsung's spin on Android.
what do you mean by actual flagship android phone? And what do you mean by pure experience?spin on android?
Every software generation or so Google chooses a primary Android handset manufacturer to make a "nexus" phone, that is meant to be the flagship phone (much as Halo is a flagship franchise for the xbox and Metal Gear is a flagship franchise for the Playstation). Unlike most other Android phones, it runs the "stock" android experience- no custom UI or widgets or anything (Touchwiz by Samsung, HTC sense by HTC, etc.)- it just runs stock Android- Ice Cream Sandwich, what have you. Google may have some hand in the hardware (specifying screen size, processor speed, what have you) to indicate what they believe is the best/standard experience for that generation of hardware, not sure. Google will also make sure that it gets the latest software updates when they release it. Google rotates between the primary Android phone manufacturers so as not to play favorites- or so they say. HTC did the first one, the Nexus 1, but Samsung did both the 2nd gen Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus.
The Galaxy S3 is Samsung's spin on Android in the sense that it uses Android as an OS but also has Touchwiz as a user interface on top of it. When a new software update comes out (Ice Cream Sandwich over Gingerbread or whatever), it may not come out on release because Samsung needs to make sure the latest version of TouchWiz jives with it and all that.
On April 23 2012 15:48 Caryc wrote: phone noob : does quad core do anything for a mobile phone? =o
don't know about this quad core but the nvidia quad core has better battery performance and also processing videos and overall performance improvement
My mate was learning about this in his uni course and was lol'n when i said that the Samsung S3 has quad core, he said he was taught that a phone can ever only possibly use 1core at a time to process due to it being a phone and the capabilities.
Ok, if you don't know what you're talking about, then don't. Core utilization has nothing to do with being a phone, a tablet or a desktop. It has all to do with programming, if the OS or an app is programmed to utilize more than 1 core then it will, phone or no.
On April 23 2012 15:48 Caryc wrote: phone noob : does quad core do anything for a mobile phone? =o
don't know about this quad core but the nvidia quad core has better battery performance and also processing videos and overall performance improvement
My mate was learning about this in his uni course and was lol'n when i said that the Samsung S3 has quad core, he said he was taught that a phone can ever only possibly use 1core at a time to process due to it being a phone and the capabilities.
Galaxy Nexus is developed with Google. It has the stock Android GUI without any of the bullshit software manufacturers put ontop. The Nexus phones are generally not perfect, with most of the flaws this time being a result of Samsung (linear input loss AGAIN, initial volume bug, two different software versions in the market) but the software is generally rock solid. You should also actually get updates for the phone since Google has a vested interest in making the Nexus lineup look good.
The Galaxy S3 will be Samsung's twist on Android. They take Android, design a phone around it, and put a skin ontop of the Android GUI (TouchWiz). Because Samsung only makes money from hardware, don't expect to get any timely software updates.
On April 23 2012 17:37 DystopiaX wrote: Google rotates between the primary Android phone manufacturers so as not to play favorites- or so they say. HTC did the first one, the Nexus 1, but Samsung did both the 2nd gen Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus.
Google makes the manufacturers bid over the job. Then they can essentially do whatever they want while designing the phone...or at least Google's input is seems to be relatively minimal. They didn't seem to mind HTC shoving a HTC Desire into a Nexus One casing. Samsung decided to do some pretty neat design work with the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus but both times Google didn't pick up on the same annoying flaw that is input loss.
On April 23 2012 17:40 Womwomwom wrote: Galaxy Nexus is developed with Google. It has the stock Android GUI without any of the bullshit software manufacturers put ontop. The Nexus phones are generally not perfect, with most of the flaws this time being a result of Samsung (linear input loss AGAIN, initial volume bug, two different software versions in the market) but the software is generally rock solid. You should also actually get updates for the phone since Google has a vested interest in making the Nexus lineup look good.
The Galaxy S3 will be Samsung's twist on Android. They take Android, design a phone around it, and put a skin ontop of the Android GUI (TouchWiz). Because Samsung only makes money from hardware, don't expect to get any timely software updates.
But if you are able and willing to get your hands dirty, so to speak, you can put custom ROMs on it and it will be so much better than whatever else. The SGS2 has a very good community around it because it is such an accomplished phone, which in turn gives it better community-sourced Android variants out there, hopefully the SGS3 will be as successful and spawn a lively following of developers.
This shouldn't be a requirement to make TouchWiz, Sense, or Motoblur not be the sluggish piece of shit it is. The serious lack of balls Google has with controlling Android manufacturers and developers is the one thing that really bothers me. You can point at the great open source community but most of these problems shouldn't be problems in the first place.
On April 23 2012 17:40 Womwomwom wrote: Galaxy Nexus is developed with Google. It has the stock Android GUI without any of the bullshit software manufacturers put ontop. The Nexus phones are generally not perfect, with most of the flaws this time being a result of Samsung (linear input loss AGAIN, initial volume bug, two different software versions in the market) but the software is generally rock solid. You should also actually get updates for the phone since Google has a vested interest in making the Nexus lineup look good.
The Galaxy S3 will be Samsung's twist on Android. They take Android, design a phone around it, and put a skin ontop of the Android GUI (TouchWiz). Because Samsung only makes money from hardware, don't expect to get any timely software updates.
But if you are able and willing to get your hands dirty, so to speak, you can put custom ROMs on it and it will be so much better than whatever else. The SGS2 has a very good community around it because it is such an accomplished phone, which in turn gives it better community-sourced Android variants out there, hopefully the SGS3 will be as successful and spawn a lively following of developers.
Regardless of whether this is out or not here when I upgrade in August, I will be getting a Galaxy Nexus. I'm not dealing with manufacturers screwing up updates more than they already have and cramming phones full of garbage and custom skins that are worse than stock Android. You shouldn't have to root your phone and use custom ROMs to get an experience that's actually good. Manufacturers need to step it up.
On April 23 2012 17:14 sharky246 wrote: isn't s3 the galaxy nexus? since its the sucessor to s2
No. Galaxy Nexus is the actual flagship Android phone that is intended to give you the pure Android experience. The Galaxy S3 is Samsung's spin on Android.
what do you mean by actual flagship android phone? And what do you mean by pure experience?spin on android?
The Galaxy Nexus is a "Nexus" branded phone, that means (for the most part) it has no manufacturer specific additions like skins or applications, just plain Android. For example, Samsung phones like the Galaxy S and Galaxy S2 have Samsung specific applications that cannot be removed without root access to the phone, and some of these apps are worse than their stock Android alternatives. Phones also can have tie-ins like Beats music and garbage like that. The Galaxy Nexus has none of that. The Nexus phones receive the fastest OS updates of any Android phone because it is what Google tests Android on. By pure experience he means your experience with Android will not be changed (usually for the worse) by manufacturer or carrier added stuff to the phone. Some people don't mind all the carrier/manufacturer added stuff, I personally hate all of that stuff and will now only buy Nexus devices, even if it has to be at a premium.
On April 23 2012 15:48 Caryc wrote: phone noob : does quad core do anything for a mobile phone? =o
don't know about this quad core but the nvidia quad core has better battery performance and also processing videos and overall performance improvement
My mate was learning about this in his uni course and was lol'n when i said that the Samsung S3 has quad core, he said he was taught that a phone can ever only possibly use 1core at a time to process due to it being a phone and the capabilities.
Ok, if you don't know what you're talking about, then don't. Core utilization has nothing to do with being a phone, a tablet or a desktop. It has all to do with programming, if the OS or an app is programmed to utilize more than 1 core then it will, phone or no.
Guess i miss interperated what he said, but what is right is that Quad-Core and Dual-Core are pretty wasteful in mobile phones. Mr Nokia man backs up the thesis.
Of course Nokia is going to say that since all Windows 7 phones aren't massive, spec-wise. However, he's not wrong that there isn't any point cramming a quad core inside a phone if you can make yourself and developers to make software that doesn't suck - Windows Phone 7 and Sony Ericsson's Android phones are probably some of the least sluggish on the market despite the rather pathetic specs on them.
Its also why Apple didn't bother with a quad core for the iPad 3. Its already buttery smooth doing mundane stuff so why not cram the largest GPU into your SOC design so its good at playing games. Christ alive, Windows doesn't even need a quad core to run smoothly so why does a smartphone need one? I thought we'd finally get away from these numeric spec pissing games in the desktop sector but it seems its just moved to the mobile phone sector.
On April 23 2012 15:48 Caryc wrote: phone noob : does quad core do anything for a mobile phone? =o
don't know about this quad core but the nvidia quad core has better battery performance and also processing videos and overall performance improvement
My mate was learning about this in his uni course and was lol'n when i said that the Samsung S3 has quad core, he said he was taught that a phone can ever only possibly use 1core at a time to process due to it being a phone and the capabilities.
Ok, if you don't know what you're talking about, then don't. Core utilization has nothing to do with being a phone, a tablet or a desktop. It has all to do with programming, if the OS or an app is programmed to utilize more than 1 core then it will, phone or no.
Guess i miss interperated what he said, but what is right is that Quad-Core and Dual-Core are pretty wasteful in mobile phones. Mr Nokia man backs up the thesis.
This just seems like Nokia is butthurt, cause it's not a leading producer anymore. With good design (cpu throttling, shutting down cores while not under load/idle) battery life isn't even a question, it could get slightly worse, but the performance gains are immense. It all comes down to what you want to use your phone for.
Someone mentioned Quad Core improving battery performance? For some reason I thought it would eat up more battery power; that in combination with LTE (if it has it).. and a larger screen.. and maybe better display..
I just don't see how this phone is gonna have a good battery life. Like I'm not hating on Samsung; I mean for ANY company to provide those kinda features..
The current phones out on the market already have pretty lame battery life. That goes for iPhone, S2 and Nexus.. so many complaints about battery with just a couple of google searches.
Unless they tripled the size of the battery; I am predicting a lot of battery draining issues.. (That is if these new phones do have the features that they are rumoured to have)
On April 23 2012 15:48 Caryc wrote: phone noob : does quad core do anything for a mobile phone? =o
don't know about this quad core but the nvidia quad core has better battery performance and also processing videos and overall performance improvement
My mate was learning about this in his uni course and was lol'n when i said that the Samsung S3 has quad core, he said he was taught that a phone can ever only possibly use 1core at a time to process due to it being a phone and the capabilities.
Ok, if you don't know what you're talking about, then don't. Core utilization has nothing to do with being a phone, a tablet or a desktop. It has all to do with programming, if the OS or an app is programmed to utilize more than 1 core then it will, phone or no.
Guess i miss interperated what he said, but what is right is that Quad-Core and Dual-Core are pretty wasteful in mobile phones. Mr Nokia man backs up the thesis.
Lots of people say Android phones are better because of hardware specs (and the OS) but when I played with my friends Galaxy S2 for awhile that shit felt laggy and nasty at times compared to iOS. I can't wait to see what the S3 is about, but I'm way more excited for an iphone5 reveal.
I have an s2 myself, proud owner and custom.ROM flashholic. really excited to see what the s3 will look like, even though I'm not going to change phones anytime soon, and I know that the phone will be getting raped by touchwiz.
On April 23 2012 18:02 jjun212 wrote: Someone mentioned Quad Core improving battery performance? For some reason I thought it would eat up more battery power; that in combination with LTE (if it has it).. and a larger screen.. and maybe better display..
I just don't see how this phone is gonna have a good battery life. Like I'm not hating on Samsung; I mean for ANY company to provide those kinda features..
The current phones out on the market already have pretty lame battery life. That goes for iPhone, S2 and Nexus.. so many complaints about battery with just a couple of google searches.
Unless they tripled the size of the battery; I am predicting a lot of battery draining issues.. (That is if these new phones do have the features that they are rumoured to have)
think of it as a different cpu level will turn on the different cores. But LTE, larger screen will certain eat up more battery, doesn't make quad core not improving the battery performance though.
But yea, most phones nowadays have really poor battery performance, which is why I bought a separate portable battery charger
On April 23 2012 18:25 alffla wrote: I have an s2 myself, proud owner and custom.ROM flashholic. really excited to see what the s3 will look like, even though I'm not going to change phones anytime soon, and I know that the phone will be getting raped by touchwiz.
It getting raped by touchwiz is not gonna stop flashers like you
On April 23 2012 18:34 Pandemona wrote: Haha @ The apple hate link, wtf is Instagram anyway? :| im so out of touch.
The website samsung launched, has crashed or being taken down according to rumours, and it is not loading for me either.
hahah its just this mobile-based photo sharing app, which also provides hipster fancy schmancy 'retro' filters and stuff like that. basically Twitter on mobile and only for sharing photos. started off on iOS, then recently ported over to Android, then lots of iRage commenced . i'm sure those hateful tweets were only from immature users anyway, lol
LOL that has to be sarcasm, no? Just like the "my parents didnt buy me a car for christmas" twitters posts? I just cant believe people could be so spoiled.
I'm pretty sure they will show more than one phone on this event. All rumors on the SIII were related to a model dubbed GT-I9300 but recently Samsung got a WiFi certficate for a device with serial GT-I9800. Imo they will show smth like S II + or SII Advanced or whatever and then another new halo model which I think wont be called SIII at all.
On April 23 2012 14:40 ShoCkeyy wrote: iPhone 5 hasn't even been announced yet, how would it even be a competitor? What if the iPhone 5 has whole new capabilities in a phone that no one can dream of?
It's an iPhone so I assume you're being ironic. It will have a tiny interative change and a few features it should have had since day one. And will cost £600.
I've been looking into buying the S2 for quite a while but I can't justify spending ~4000 SEK on a phone. With the release of this, I hope the price of the S2 will drop quite a bit eventually. The reason for me not wanting the S3 is that it'll probably have lousy battery life.
On April 23 2012 22:45 Jongl0 wrote: I've been looking into buying the S2 for quite a while but I can't justify spending ~4000 SEK on a phone. With the release of this, I hope the price of the S2 will drop quite a bit eventually. The reason for me not wanting the S3 is that it'll probably have lousy battery life.
Galaxy Nexus is cheaper than the SGS2 and is certainly the better long term solution cause it will be always the first to get any updates. I think the only reason S2 is still so expensive is the huge demand for it. Only area SGS2 is better than the Nexus is the camera.
On April 23 2012 14:40 ShoCkeyy wrote: iPhone 5 hasn't even been announced yet, how would it even be a competitor? What if the iPhone 5 has whole new capabilities in a phone that no one can dream of?
It's an iPhone so I assume you're being ironic. It will have a tiny interative change and a few features it should have had since day one. And will cost £600.
I'm pretty sure they're going to do some major overhaul on the phone. People are realizing that the iphone is the same garbage every year and just prefer to stick with the current ones they have. I still have an iPhone 4. And this is my first iPhone ever. They hyped up the five so much and came out with a 4s? Trust me, plenty of people were upset and they're going to win back their customer base some how. I'm sure there will be system/hardware upgrades and design change for a fact. What they will add to the phone to make it revolutionary, nobody will know.
On April 23 2012 14:40 ShoCkeyy wrote: iPhone 5 hasn't even been announced yet, how would it even be a competitor? What if the iPhone 5 has whole new capabilities in a phone that no one can dream of?
It's an iPhone so I assume you're being ironic. It will have a tiny interative change and a few features it should have had since day one. And will cost £600.
I'm pretty sure they're going to do some major overhaul on the phone. People are realizing that the iphone is the same garbage every year and just prefer to stick with the current ones they have. I still have an iPhone 4. And this is my first iPhone ever. They hyped up the five so much and came out with a 4s? Trust me, plenty of people were upset and they're going to win back their customer base some how. I'm sure there will be system/hardware upgrades and design change for a fact. What they will add to the phone to make it revolutionary, nobody will know.
They haven't said shit about the iphone 5 in typical apple fashion, they let the fanboys run the rumor mill.
On April 23 2012 22:45 Jongl0 wrote: I've been looking into buying the S2 for quite a while but I can't justify spending ~4000 SEK on a phone. With the release of this, I hope the price of the S2 will drop quite a bit eventually. The reason for me not wanting the S3 is that it'll probably have lousy battery life.
Galaxy Nexus is cheaper than the SGS2 and is certainly the better long term solution cause it will be always the first to get any updates. I think the only reason S2 is still so expensive is the huge demand for it. Only area SGS2 is better than the Nexus is the camera.
It may grab updates first, but that is really the only benefit that the Galaxy Nexus has over the S2. I had to make a similar decision back in February and chose the S2 in the end because it's just better than the Nexus in every other way. The Nexus doesn't even have an external SD card slot.
Although I will be watching the S3 closely I don't think it will make me dissatisfied at all with my S2 if it is simply slightly faster/shinier. The S2 is still incredibly amazing and by no means out-of-date, and unless the S3 incorporates some sort of brand new never-seen-before technology, the S2 will stay relevant for quite a while longer.
Does anyone know how this upcoming "announcement" date relates to when I can order a phone? Like, as soon as they announce it does it go on sale or do I have to wait a few weeks for an official release date?
On April 24 2012 04:53 opsayo wrote: Does anyone know how this upcoming "announcement" date relates to when I can order a phone? Like, as soon as they announce it does it go on sale or do I have to wait a few weeks for an official release date?
It's going to be a few weeks / months before you can order the phone, like with most Android phones. A carrier will usually have exclusivity on the original variant and than dozens of other variants will appear when exclusivity expires.
I was hoping for a Christmas follow-up to the Galaxy Nexus, but I guess this is now the phone in my sights. Also didn't expect the Mass Effect music in the ad, lol.
I got My galaxy 1 just as it was rolling out if not before. And ive been outdated since hahah. Love the phone specially for a free one. I get my upgrade at the start of May Ill have to figure out what I want to do.
On April 24 2012 05:07 ManTrain wrote: F**k, so now my Galaxy Nexus is already outdated ?
it was already out dated when it first came out, hardware wise anyways.
True that. Simple example (as opposed to just comparing CPU stats, etc), 5 MP camera as opposed to S2, Note, iPhone 4s, and various other phone's 8 MP cameras. There really is no reason why it shouldn't have had an 8 MP camera.
The Galaxy Note is currently better in almost every way besides Ice Cream Sandwich. Which it's reportedly getting later anyway.
The thing is, though, if you're a Verizon user, Galaxy Nexus is the only Galaxy they offer a discount with a 2-year contract anyway. If you wanted "Advanced" should have gone with one of the Motorolla DROIDs.
I'm still annoyed Verizon doesn't offer the S2 or the Note. I would have so gone with the Note instead of the Galaxy Nexus if I had the chance.
On April 24 2012 05:07 ManTrain wrote: F**k, so now my Galaxy Nexus is already outdated ?
it was already out dated when it first came out, hardware wise anyways.
True that. Simple example (as opposed to just comparing CPU stats, etc), 5 MP camera as opposed to S2, Note, iPhone 4s, and various other phone's 8 MP cameras. There really is no reason why it shouldn't have had an 8 MP camera.
The Galaxy Note is currently better in almost every way besides Ice Cream Sandwich. Which it's reportedly getting later anyway.
The thing is, though, if you're a Verizon user, Galaxy Nexus is the only Galaxy they offer a discount with a 2-year contract anyway. If you wanted "Advanced" should have gone with one of the Motorolla DROIDs.
I'm still annoyed Verizon doesn't offer the S2 or the Note. I would have so gone with the Note instead of the Galaxy Nexus if I had the chance.
Exynos doesn't/didn't work with LTE. That's the number two/three reason the Verzion GN was superior.
Also, the camera surely is inferior but it's not because of the MP. It needed a better sensor, but 5MP is fine (aside from the marketing fluff angle of it.)
I would still get an iPhone because of the better display, fluidity of apps, and more premium apps. Every app I've seen that was on both Android and iOS, the iOS version has better usability and iOS also wins in app selection.
On April 23 2012 22:45 Jongl0 wrote: I've been looking into buying the S2 for quite a while but I can't justify spending ~4000 SEK on a phone. With the release of this, I hope the price of the S2 will drop quite a bit eventually. The reason for me not wanting the S3 is that it'll probably have lousy battery life.
Galaxy Nexus is cheaper than the SGS2 and is certainly the better long term solution cause it will be always the first to get any updates. I think the only reason S2 is still so expensive is the huge demand for it. Only area SGS2 is better than the Nexus is the camera.
I'm a bit confused by this; I'm trying to decide between the Galaxy S2, Galaxy S3, and Galaxy Nexus, and the only thing keeping me from getting the Nexus over the S2 currently is the $300 pricetag for a 2 year contract over the $200 for a 2 year contract for the S2. Where is the Nexus cheaper than the S2?
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu I just got my Galaxy Note two days ago and now they're coming out with a quad core. Honestly, what could you be doing on your phone that requires quad core though?
S2 owner, excited for S3 but I don't think I'll be too eager to get it right away. Once I see user reviews and stuff I'll consider it. S2 is still amazing and I don't see the need to replace it at the moment, or the near future.
On April 24 2012 07:50 Hyde wrote: Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu I just got my Galaxy Note two days ago and now they're coming out with a quad core. Honestly, what could you be doing on your phone that requires quad core though?
maybe you will play starcraft at the same time rendering some complex 3d drawing with your PHONE
On April 24 2012 10:40 darkcloud8282 wrote: I hope this means my Samsung Galaxy S2 will be getting ICS soon..
The ICS TouchWiz has already rolled out in some regions, according to the various tech blogs I've read. However I get that it's not as easy as just pushing out the update to everyone in the world with a 9100 but still, Android OEMs are disappointing like that.
On April 24 2012 10:40 darkcloud8282 wrote: I hope this means my Samsung Galaxy S2 will be getting ICS soon..
The ICS TouchWiz has already rolled out in some regions, according to the various tech blogs I've read. However I get that it's not as easy as just pushing out the update to everyone in the world with a 9100 but still, Android OEMs are disappointing like that.
S2 has had ICS for a while now, just depends on your individual carrier.
On April 23 2012 14:52 Mawi wrote: still thinking what kind of smartphone i should buy,(never had one) hopefully this will catch my intrests
get ready to change in that 10-20 bucks a month for 70-90 when you do manage to finally pick one up.
lol at those subsidized phone. so you pay what? 300 to get the phone then 70 /month for 2 years, what a ripoff.
i still pay 15 euros a months and i have 3 gigs of data and unlimited voice, and i don't even come close to breaking that limit.
You realize Europe and other parts of the world have much better telecoms than North America right?
For non-subsidized phones in Canada, you're going to end up paying like $600 for a phone such as the Galaxy S3 and than pay $25 a month if you live in a major city (because these telecoms that offer $25 plans don't have enough towers so coverage is poor, reception is dodgy, and speed is poor). For a subsidized phone, you pay $0-$200 depending on the phone and pay $50+ a month for three years.
On April 23 2012 14:52 Mawi wrote: still thinking what kind of smartphone i should buy,(never had one) hopefully this will catch my intrests
get ready to change in that 10-20 bucks a month for 70-90 when you do manage to finally pick one up.
lol at those subsidized phone. so you pay what? 300 to get the phone then 70 /month for 2 years, what a ripoff.
i still pay 15 euros a months and i have 3 gigs of data and unlimited voice, and i don't even come close to breaking that limit.
You realize Europe and other parts of the world have much better telecoms than North America right?
For non-subsidized phones in Canada, you're going to end up paying like $600 for a phone such as the Galaxy S3 and than pay $25 a month if you live in a major city (because these telecoms that offer $25 plans don't have enough towers so coverage is poor, reception is dodgy, and speed is poor). For a subsidized phone, you pay $0-$200 depending on the phone and pay $50+ a month for three years.
600? Closer to 700 plus tax lol. Also $25/month plan likely doesn't even get you a reasonable data plan. Many providers add an extra $10-15 for even 500mb of data per month. Oh Canada...
If it's out before the end of September this year, then I'll get it over the S2. I'm just waiting for my current contract to end with Virgin before making the switch over to Orange - Got a Sony Ericsson Xperia mini atm, somehow ended up with a 24 month contract even though I asked for an 18 month one. wcyd.
here's a pic of a leaked supposed S3 screen protector placed over a galaxy S2! 4.8" screen doesn't look too big then? phone seems same width but just a lil longer.
well, i only can tell you, that if the screen is bigger then 4,3" then its useless i own a samsung galaxy s which is great phone and if it only had a little bit more ram (512mb is not enough for android), i would not care about a new phone
but it seems that android producer for some fucking reason over do it with screen size, so i might go with the new iphone even though it has worser OS
On May 03 2012 18:19 Art_of_Kill wrote: well, i only can tell you, that if the screen is bigger then 4,3" then its useless i own a samsung galaxy s which is great phone and if it only had a little bit more ram (512mb is not enough for android), i would not care about a new phone
but it seems that android producer for some fucking reason over do it with screen size, so i might go with the new iphone even though it has worser OS
to each his own, but i enjoy seeing bright vibrant graphics on larger screens, :D
i like the size of the galaxy s2, but the galaxy nexus bigger screen without being much bigger also appeals to me. galaxy note also has had many reviewers say they thought that it was wayyy too huge at first but got used to it, and never looked back !
I hope Samsung have made the touch screen better, writing messanges or typing at all is just horrible compared to both iPhone 3 and 4, I wright perfectly on iPhones, but on the Samsung Galasy S2 i make typos on every other letter, and I dont got huge fingers or something.
On May 03 2012 19:40 Atoissen wrote: I hope Samsung have made the touch screen better, writing messanges or typing at all is just horrible compared to both iPhone 3 and 4, I wright perfectly on iPhones, but on the Samsung Galasy S2 i make typos on every other letter, and I dont got huge fingers or something.
On May 03 2012 19:40 Atoissen wrote: I hope Samsung have made the touch screen better, writing messanges or typing at all is just horrible compared to both iPhone 3 and 4, I wright perfectly on iPhones, but on the Samsung Galasy S2 i make typos on every other letter, and I dont got huge fingers or something.
Anyone els struggle with this?
Sounds more like a keyboard problem than a phone problem tbh. I have no problems with this whatsoever.
On April 23 2012 14:54 zatic wrote: I just hope it won't really be 4.8" wide. That is too freaking huge for a phone.
I would love a phone that huge! think about it; if the have that much space, it must be filled with sick as hardware!
and where do you keep it? Not in your jeans pocket? Wanna buy a men bag? Hell no!
I have a Galaxy Note (5.3") which I like a lot. I do keep it in my jeans and even my dress pants on a daily basis. No problems. And no, my pants are not baggy by any means, and I am a size 31.
On April 23 2012 17:15 Doraemon wrote: tossing up between this and the one x. hmmph. going to be hard
One X is unfortunately terrible... they hide small missings behind big core frequencies that you wont be able to fully utilize anyways... Like no slot for sd card where the fuck are we ? I wanted to buy it but then i just fall back to my one V and i have no problems... Even though im HTC fanboi i strongly recommend buying S3 and run away from one X cause its just not worth it
On May 04 2012 03:17 aksfjh wrote: But screen doesn't go from edge to edge. That thing is huge.
I never said it goes from edge to edge. It's a perfect size for me, especially so when I already have a note.
...Wait, I'm confused with your point. You say it doesn't go from edge to edge (which the phone would be even bigger if it does), then you say "that thing" is huge. Huh?
Cool features, but as already stated they will become an industry standard in the following months. Nothing spectacular, just another BIG smartphone. iPhone 5 will probably be just as disappointing, innovation-wise. They can put as many face and language recognition programs into these phones, I will remain unimpressed. I guess I won't be changing my crappy 3Gs anytime soon.
WTF, they spend the beginning of the conference talking about stupid useless social media shit and then just by the way during 10 seconds mention wireless charging?!
anyone that has used nexus galaxy, loves the screen size (4.65?), 4.8" will be ok. there no need to worry about fitting in your pants...unless you want to put it inside your shortshorts.
i dunno.. doesn't look as awesome as i expected, but there's still a quad core cpu in there looking forward to try it out some though (with more skepticism than enthusiasm, contrary to pre-seeing official pictures)
On May 04 2012 04:03 biomech wrote: i dunno.. doesn't look as awesome as i expected, but there's still a quad core cpu in there looking forward to try it out some though (with more skepticism than enthusiasm, contrary to pre-seeing official pictures)
A dual-core CPU lets me watch twitch TV streams at 720p. I really don't see how a quad-core CPU could help.
On May 04 2012 04:03 biomech wrote: i dunno.. doesn't look as awesome as i expected, but there's still a quad core cpu in there looking forward to try it out some though (with more skepticism than enthusiasm, contrary to pre-seeing official pictures)
A dual-core CPU lets me watch twitch TV streams at 720p. I really don't see how a quad-core CPU could help.
considering my galaxy nexus drains my battery fucking fast (good thing for chargers throughout everywhere) plus is fast enough for anything I do I don't think i will get it just based on the quad core processor and the bigger screen. When my nexus cannot load webpages moderatly fast, then ill upgrade. But 2 year contracts aren't that big of a burden, unless angry birds goes 3d with like some crazy shit going on....
The fact that this wasn't quite as revolutionary as rumours were making it out to be makes me happy, my S2 will not be out-dated for a little longer ~ :D
On May 04 2012 03:52 ilikeredheads wrote: There are already 3rd party wireless charging pads on the market, aren't there? I've never used them so I don't know if they are efficient.
LOL @ "designed for humans" Are they begging to be made fun of????
I think they are playing on the "everyone who doesn't use this are sheep" thing they have going on...
On May 04 2012 04:03 biomech wrote: i dunno.. doesn't look as awesome as i expected, but there's still a quad core cpu in there looking forward to try it out some though (with more skepticism than enthusiasm, contrary to pre-seeing official pictures)
A dual-core CPU lets me watch twitch TV streams at 720p. I really don't see how a quad-core CPU could help.
What kind of phone u using?
Galaxy Nexus. I turn off 4G for daily use and only use it when needed. If I wanna watch streams, I turn on 4G. Been able to watch 720P on both wifi and 4G with no hickups at all so I mean...quad-core? Just seems excessive. I understand it from a marketing perspective, but I really feel like dual-core is extremely future proof right now. Especially since phones also have GPU...
I'm pretty happy, by the time this comes to SA it will hopefully push the price of a GS2 down so that I can afford it for the upgrade. GS3 looks awesome but not revolutionary, which I think is to be expected at this point in smartphone evolution. It will be very difficult for a new phone to still be revolutionary (although the One X came pretty damn close, so sexy).
i think its pretty great. had prefered it a cm smaller, but galaxy nexus size is still fine. kinda impressed they got creative at some points, like the display not turning dark when you look at it, i guess kinda works through the front camera.
Its kind of funny how maybe even 6 months to a year ago cpu/gpu specs were incredibly important and now people are like 1.4 ghz quad? w/e. Seems like we're pretty much past the point where hardware is the limiting factor for 90% of people and now its going to be about features and battery life.
i'm a little disappointed too, but maybe they just built up too much hype. also the home button looks a little thin. but probably just have to see and hold this in person.
i actually kinda like the galaxy nexus design more than this..
On May 04 2012 04:48 alffla wrote: i'm a little disappointed too, but maybe they just built up too much hype. also the home button looks a little thin. but probably just have to see and hold this in person.
i actually kinda like the galaxy nexus design more than this..
same, I'm sure the package will be great and the phone will smash one-x in all benchmarks, but I think I expected something more from the features. I think my next phone after the S2 will be nexus.
On May 04 2012 04:44 ZeaL. wrote: Its kind of funny how maybe even 6 months to a year ago cpu/gpu specs were incredibly important and now people are like 1.4 ghz quad? w/e. Seems like we're pretty much past the point where hardware is the limiting factor for 90% of people and now its going to be about features and battery life.
Yeah, its basically what happened to laptops, what, 4 years ago? My 4 year old laptop gets 4+ hours of battery life and can stream 1080p. Until resolutions start going past 1080p, the idea of a new laptop is only really valid in terms of gaming.
On April 23 2012 15:48 Caryc wrote: phone noob : does quad core do anything for a mobile phone? =o
don't know about this quad core but the nvidia quad core has better battery performance and also processing videos and overall performance improvement
My mate was learning about this in his uni course and was lol'n when i said that the Samsung S3 has quad core, he said he was taught that a phone can ever only possibly use 1core at a time to process due to it being a phone and the capabilities.
Ok, if you don't know what you're talking about, then don't. Core utilization has nothing to do with being a phone, a tablet or a desktop. It has all to do with programming, if the OS or an app is programmed to utilize more than 1 core then it will, phone or no.
Guess i miss interperated what he said, but what is right is that Quad-Core and Dual-Core are pretty wasteful in mobile phones. Mr Nokia man backs up the thesis.
I bought the Nokia Lumia 900 yesterday and they told me about the new S3 since i was also looking at the S2. This does have some cool stuff in it, and I'm quite a tech geek, but I would never use the phone to it's capability. I'm not one of those "use my phone to do everything" people tho, so you may think it's worth having a 12mp camera for example.
On May 04 2012 04:48 alffla wrote: i'm a little disappointed too, but maybe they just built up too much hype. also the home button looks a little thin. but probably just have to see and hold this in person.
i actually kinda like the galaxy nexus design more than this..
same, I'm sure the package will be great and the phone will smash one-x in all benchmarks, but I think I expected something more from the features. I think my next phone after the S2 will be nexus.
My next phone will for sure be a Nexus unless this thing blows me away when I try it (It is slated to come out in NA right when I am set to get an upgrade). This phone is almost too big. The Galaxy Nexus was noticeably bigger than my old Galaxy S when I tried it, so this thing has to be huge, Not to mention the specs aren't even that much better.
On May 04 2012 04:48 alffla wrote: i'm a little disappointed too, but maybe they just built up too much hype. also the home button looks a little thin. but probably just have to see and hold this in person.
i actually kinda like the galaxy nexus design more than this..
same, I'm sure the package will be great and the phone will smash one-x in all benchmarks, but I think I expected something more from the features. I think my next phone after the S2 will be nexus.
My next phone will for sure be a Nexus unless this thing blows me away when I try it (It is slated to come out in NA right when I am set to get an upgrade). This phone is almost too big. The Galaxy Nexus was noticeably bigger than my old Galaxy S when I tried it, so this thing has to be huge, Not to mention the specs aren't even that much better.
Pretty sure the S3 is about the same size as the nexus or smaller. The galaxy note is only slightly bigger (about 1/8th or so?) than the nexus and it's definitely bigger than the upcoming S3.
btw you can compare phone sizes very neatly on phone-size.com. (I'm not, in any way, affiliated with the site)
Also having a quadcore is a huge plus that some people don't seem to understand. 4 cores are better for battery life than 2. Has something to do with one of the cores being pretty much solely used for standby mode (and being very efficient at that). Oh yeah and you never know how hardware-hungry future applications will be. 2 cores might be good now, it might become a pain in the ass in the future. Nobody knows.
I'll probably skip the S3, because I'm happy with my note, but if I were to upgrade this summer, I would definitely get the S3.
Looks like i'll just buy the now lowered price S2 since this S3 doesn't look that much better and the design is weaker than S2 imo. Screen quality is about the same and i wouldnt really want a bigger screen than S2's
I think the iPhone has okay hardware, but its iOS that really makes it such a popular product. Though S3 may be better than any iPhone, until Android>iOS, I will stick with apple.
Does anyone else not like the trend of every android phone have gigantic screens. I got my galaxys2 a few months ago and coming from a blackberry it feels gigantic just to have in my pocket. Having high end specs are great but I feel like android vendors are neglecting the simple things like the size of the phone and battery life.
On April 23 2012 15:48 Caryc wrote: phone noob : does quad core do anything for a mobile phone? =o
don't know about this quad core but the nvidia quad core has better battery performance and also processing videos and overall performance improvement
My mate was learning about this in his uni course and was lol'n when i said that the Samsung S3 has quad core, he said he was taught that a phone can ever only possibly use 1core at a time to process due to it being a phone and the capabilities.
Ok, if you don't know what you're talking about, then don't. Core utilization has nothing to do with being a phone, a tablet or a desktop. It has all to do with programming, if the OS or an app is programmed to utilize more than 1 core then it will, phone or no.
Guess i miss interperated what he said, but what is right is that Quad-Core and Dual-Core are pretty wasteful in mobile phones. Mr Nokia man backs up the thesis.
On May 04 2012 06:38 pewpew415 wrote: Does anyone else not like the trend of every android phone have gigantic screens. I got my galaxys2 a few months ago and coming from a blackberry it feels gigantic just to have in my pocket. Having high end specs are great but I feel like android vendors are neglecting the simple things like the size of the phone and battery life.
Not all phones are doing this. The superphones are, but it's the nature of a superphone to be big on everything possible. There are many androids that have smaller screens, and they continue to come out.
The hardware button is horrible. Its like a massive shift backwards in term of usability. Though as I predicted, there's no way the phone is going to be bezel-less, it'd be close to impossible to use.
Specs are nice but who cares, every half decent phone is pretty fast these days unless Android still needs spec brute forcing to run smoothly (doubt it, HTC One X is pretty smooth). Does it really matter what score in get in X, Y, and Z benchmark if it can do X, Y, and Z quickly and smoothly? I'm kind of glad we've beaten the spec wanking out of most of the PC enthusiast market and I hope the same happens here.
On May 04 2012 09:23 Womwomwom wrote: The hardware button is horrible. Its like a massive shift backwards in term of usability. Though as I predicted, there's no way the phone is going to be bezel-less, it'd be close to impossible to use.
Excuse me? How is having a hardware button a shift backwards? If you mean you prefer to have a bunch of soft capacity keys, then no thanks. I really like having one physical button that I always know is there.
On May 04 2012 09:23 Womwomwom wrote: The hardware button is horrible. Its like a massive shift backwards in term of usability. Though as I predicted, there's no way the phone is going to be bezel-less, it'd be close to impossible to use.
Excuse me? How is having a hardware button a shift backwards? If you mean you prefer to have a bunch of soft capacity keys, then no thanks. I really like having one physical button that I always know is there.
There's nothing wrong with having a physical home button but the problem with the S3 button is that it's so small it doesn't make sense.
I'm talking about the size and form factor of the button. Its looks really horrible to use compared to the previous Galaxy Phones.
Edit: I'm still rather confused over the OLED choice besides the fact Samsung needs people to test it out before it ends up in larger displays...it offers literally nothing besides really nice blacks, which is not too useful in a mobile phone to be honest. I actually think the smartest thing HTC has done is not jump on the OLED hype/spec train and kept with a really damned good LCD panel.
On May 04 2012 09:23 Womwomwom wrote: The hardware button is horrible. Its like a massive shift backwards in term of usability. Though as I predicted, there's no way the phone is going to be bezel-less, it'd be close to impossible to use.
Excuse me? How is having a hardware button a shift backwards? If you mean you prefer to have a bunch of soft capacity keys, then no thanks. I really like having one physical button that I always know is there.
There's nothing wrong with having a physical home button but the problem with the S3 button is that it's so small it doesn't make sense.
Ah fair enough, can't comment on that since I haven't actually had it in my hand.
On May 04 2012 09:23 Womwomwom wrote: The hardware button is horrible. Its like a massive shift backwards in term of usability. Though as I predicted, there's no way the phone is going to be bezel-less, it'd be close to impossible to use.
Excuse me? How is having a hardware button a shift backwards? If you mean you prefer to have a bunch of soft capacity keys, then no thanks. I really like having one physical button that I always know is there.
There's nothing wrong with having a physical home button but the problem with the S3 button is that it's so small it doesn't make sense.
Ah fair enough, can't comment on that since I haven't actually had it in my hand.
Just look at the pictures where the hand is, or even compare it to the S2 beside it. There are also a lot of hands-on videos on theverge.com and engadget.com. The button is certainly big enough for me, and I actually prefer it this way. It all boils down to personal preference.
After going from the iPhone 3GS to a Galaxy Note, the 3GS just feels like a cheap toy to me. I'd personally say anything larger than the Note would be too big, but anything under 4" is just too small for my taste.
I will be picking up either the S3 or the iPhone 5. Let's see what Apple has to offer.
On May 04 2012 09:32 Womwomwom wrote: I'm talking about the size and form factor of the button. Its looks really horrible to use compared to the previous Galaxy Phones.
Edit: I'm still rather confused over the OLED choice besides the fact Samsung needs people to test it out before it ends up in larger displays...it offers literally nothing besides really nice blacks, which is not too useful in a mobile phone to be honest. I actually think the smartest thing HTC has done is not jump on the OLED hype/spec train and kept with a really damned good LCD panel.
I thought the whole point of OLEDs is that they are way more energy efficient than LCDs, which is highly important on a mobile device.
A very good update IMHO. Of course it wasn't going to be "revolutionary", because, spec-wise, where are we supposed to go from the SGS2 that's reasonable?
If I get a decent-paying job (offer) after graduation I'll definitely get this.
Also, I saw on Engadget it has a 2100mAh battery? vs 1500mAh on the S2, wow!
On May 04 2012 09:32 Womwomwom wrote: I'm talking about the size and form factor of the button. Its looks really horrible to use compared to the previous Galaxy Phones.
Edit: I'm still rather confused over the OLED choice besides the fact Samsung needs people to test it out before it ends up in larger displays...it offers literally nothing besides really nice blacks, which is not too useful in a mobile phone to be honest. I actually think the smartest thing HTC has done is not jump on the OLED hype/spec train and kept with a really damned good LCD panel.
I thought the whole point of OLEDs is that they are way more energy efficient than LCDs, which is highly important on a mobile device.
Its power efficient because it turns on/off pixels depending on what's on the screen. So its really good when the whole screen is basically black...which is not a common occurrence I would think. Besides that, I don't think the power draw between a LED backlit LCD screen and a OLED screen is all that different.
Even if it was far more power efficient, you get issues of low brightness, wider colour spaces, much less resistance to burn in, and weaker subpixels which leads to tinting.
Its fine for something like a Playstation Vita since all it does is play games. The fast response and infinite contrast is important for those things. This is a smartphone though with lots of persistent elements on screen (the dock for one example).
On May 04 2012 10:04 Ktk wrote: It's Samsung + OLED no need to worry about it?
Phone looks awesome as hell. I'm getting one. Currently epic4g.
Well you could say that about PLS and I'd probably laugh at you because quality control there is practically non-existent.
I've had my Motorola Droid X (great phone for its generation) for a while and I am overdue for an upgrade. This one looks frickin' amazing! Definitely going to set my eye on one of these. (Verizon in the US, so I guess we'll get it in June or so?)
On April 23 2012 15:48 Caryc wrote: phone noob : does quad core do anything for a mobile phone? =o
don't know about this quad core but the nvidia quad core has better battery performance and also processing videos and overall performance improvement
My mate was learning about this in his uni course and was lol'n when i said that the Samsung S3 has quad core, he said he was taught that a phone can ever only possibly use 1core at a time to process due to it being a phone and the capabilities.
Ok, if you don't know what you're talking about, then don't. Core utilization has nothing to do with being a phone, a tablet or a desktop. It has all to do with programming, if the OS or an app is programmed to utilize more than 1 core then it will, phone or no.
Guess i miss interperated what he said, but what is right is that Quad-Core and Dual-Core are pretty wasteful in mobile phones. Mr Nokia man backs up the thesis.
This is a little off topic, but I'm trying to decide if I should wait for the S3 (coming from an 8 year old phone so don't know shit about smartphones). What's the general opinion of the HTC One X, compared to the upcoming S3? It seems like they're the same in several aspects like a quad core processor, but I've heard great things about rooting Samsungs and I'm not sure if it'd be the same with HTC.
You don't jailbreak androids. You root them (to gain additional control over your phone, think administrator rights) and flash custom ROMs (think custom OS) that can be customised in many many ways. Rooting and flashing new ROMs break your warranty but are otherwise completely condoned by Google and co.
On May 06 2012 05:59 Firebolt145 wrote: You don't jailbreak androids. You root them (to gain additional control over your phone, think administrator rights) and flash custom ROMs (think custom OS) that can be customised in many many ways. Rooting and flashing new ROMs break your warranty but are otherwise completely condoned by Google and co.
Haha, thanks for the clarification, edited to make myself look like less of an idiot. So I've heard that Android phones other than the Nexus, since it's built in coordination with Google, have less-than-preferably software (like Samsung's Touchwiz). Does HTC have this, and is it easily replaceable with a custom OS?
There must be a reason that everyone's ignoring the One X in favor of the S2, Nexus, and S3, but I haven't found any flaws yet other than non-replaceable memory (which sucks, but meh).
HTC does have their own UI as well, their version is called HTC Sense. HTC Sense is widely considered to be slightly better than Touchwiz. However, I should tell you that even WITHOUT flashing/rooting, you can download an entire new UI from the Android market and never have to experience Sense/Touchwiz/whatever.
You can root HTC as well, yes. All Androids phone can be rooted.
- One X doesn't have a removable battery or microSD slot while the S3 does. - S3 has a physical home button while the One X does not. - One X uses a 4.7" Super IPS screen while Samsung uses 4.8" Super AMOLED, both 720p. - and some other things
HTC Sense > Samsung Touchwiz but this doesn't matter if you are rooting and installing a custom ROM. Both phones will have amazing developer support ( http://www.xda-developers.com/ ).
HTC One X was recently released and it's not available at every carrier. Galaxy S2 was released last year and nearly every carrier carries a S2 variant and S2 is in some ways better than the Galaxy Nexus. And some people just don't like larger screens.
When picking between the Nexus and the S2 I chose the S2 because there really is only one reason you'd pick the Nexus over it, and that's if you're absolutely stubborn about getting the stock Google Android experience. The S2 is better than the Nexus is almost every other way, which I thought was a bit sad. S2 was even a fair bit cheaper than the Nexus.
On May 06 2012 06:15 skyR wrote: Both phones have their pros and cons:
- One X doesn't have a removable battery or microSD slot while the S3 does. - S3 has a physical home button while the One X does not. - One X uses a 4.7" Super IPS screen while Samsung uses 4.8" Super AMOLED, both 720p. - and some other things
HTC Sense > Samsung Touchwiz but this doesn't matter if you are rooting and installing a custom ROM. Both phones will have amazing developer support ( http://www.xda-developers.com/ ).
HTC One X was recently released and it's not available at every carrier. Galaxy S2 was released last year and nearly every carrier carries a S2 variant and S2 is in some ways better than the Galaxy Nexus. And some people just don't like larger screens.
Yeah, no removable battery is rough too. How big of a deal is that? How much can you reasonably upgrade the stock battery on the S2/S3 and for what price? I don't think the lack of a physical home button will bother me too much. I definitely prefer the colors of Super AMOLED over Super IPS, but for a phone this likely isn't too big of a deal to me either.
Conveniently the HTX One X is being released for AT&T tomorrow, which is why I'm considering it. If there was a solid release date on the S3 I'd undoubtedly get that instead, but it could be 2-3+ months before it's available. I was considering the S2 but there doesn't seem to be much of a point in buying an older phone when the One X and S3 are options.
On May 06 2012 06:15 skyR wrote: Both phones have their pros and cons:
- One X doesn't have a removable battery or microSD slot while the S3 does. - S3 has a physical home button while the One X does not. - One X uses a 4.7" Super IPS screen while Samsung uses 4.8" Super AMOLED, both 720p. - and some other things
HTC Sense > Samsung Touchwiz but this doesn't matter if you are rooting and installing a custom ROM. Both phones will have amazing developer support ( http://www.xda-developers.com/ ).
HTC One X was recently released and it's not available at every carrier. Galaxy S2 was released last year and nearly every carrier carries a S2 variant and S2 is in some ways better than the Galaxy Nexus. And some people just don't like larger screens.
Yeah, no removable battery is rough too. How big of a deal is that? How much can you reasonably upgrade the stock battery on the S2/S3 and for what price? I don't think the lack of a physical home button will bother me too much. I definitely prefer the colors of Super AMOLED over Super IPS, but for a phone this likely isn't too big of a deal to me either.
Conveniently the HTX One X is being released for AT&T tomorrow, which is why I'm considering it. If there was a solid release date on the S3 I'd undoubtedly get that instead, but it could be 2-3+ months before it's available. I was considering the S2 but there doesn't seem to be much of a point in buying an older phone when the One X and S3 are options.
To me, its a deal breaker. 4G kills battery, no way around that. Batteries get old and hold less of a charge, noticeably so probably a year after its original use. Upgrade every 2 years --> Battery really shitty after 1.5 years ---> sad panda. A smartphone without longevity is useless.
How big of a deal of not having a removable battery depends on the individual's lifestyle. Battery life can dramatically be increased with the help of apps such as Tasker (app for like $6) and with custom ROMs. Though not having a removabale battery basically means you're fucked in the long run when it needs to be replaced due to age.
On May 06 2012 06:37 skyR wrote: How big of a deal of not having a removable battery depends on the individual's lifestyle. Battery life can dramatically be increased with the help of apps such as Tasker (app for like $6) and with custom ROMs. Though not having a removabale battery basically means you're fucked in the long run when it needs to be replaced due to age.
Yeah, considering you only get a new one every 2 years, you're basically guaranteed roughly 6 months of a really shitty battery ;_;
On May 06 2012 08:27 Soulfire wrote: Ugh. How shitty are we talking? Half of the original capacity shitty, or even worse?
I just dunno if I should wait. Thanks for the help so far guys.
I can't speak for any battery technology developments that may have been done, but on my Droid 1, the battery was probably 50% of what it was when I first purchased the phone 20 months after I bought it. I don't think much has changed in batteries, though...
I mean, I really, really *really* do not recommend it. 4G eats battery, its a simple fact that any 4G phone is going to require more frequent of charge than past phones until the technology matures a bit. Cutting edge is always shit in terms of energy efficiency at first because companies need to advertise. A year later, its a solid technology. But point being, 4G and non-replaceable battery should be mutually exclusive. A really big battery on a 3G phone might make it through a whole upgrade cycle, but a good battery on a big 4G phone is just a terrible idea.
Yeah, sounds like a pain. Guess I'll wait for the S3 :/. Is there any reasonable way to estimate its release date, or more importantly if it will even be available on my service provider, AT&T?
On May 06 2012 11:20 Soulfire wrote: Yeah, sounds like a pain. Guess I'll wait for the S3 :/. Is there any reasonable way to estimate its release date, or more importantly if it will even be available on my service provider, AT&T?
Summer 2012 (I think June has been thrown around) for HSPA+. Chances are good that AT&T will get it but the chances of it being the international variant is very slim.
On May 06 2012 11:58 Soulfire wrote: What's the difference between the international variant and AT&T variant? Or is it impossible to know until it's announced?
International variant is the one with the Exynos 4 quad core processor that was announced and shown off on May 3rd in London. The one you see in all the pictures that are floating around right now.
The US variant is likely to have a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 dual core processor (yes US gets shafted once again, though I guess there's one bright side to it is that you get LTE). Other variants might also get rid of the physical home button and use capacitive (like the Nexus S or some of the Galaxy S2 variants) or on-screen buttons instead (like the Galaxy Nexus). There may be other tweaks as well to the screen, design, battery, etc.
Just look at the S2, there are like more than a dozen variants -_- and they just released a new variant this April too lol.
On April 23 2012 17:14 sharky246 wrote: isn't s3 the galaxy nexus? since its the sucessor to s2
No. Galaxy Nexus is the actual flagship Android phone that is intended to give you the pure Android experience. The Galaxy S3 is Samsung's spin on Android.
The Galaxy Nexus is not really a flagship. It is a developer phone.
And yeah, the S3 is typical Samsung...so tasteless and dull.
Its a flagship in terms of the Android experience. No where else can you get the raw Ice Cream Sandwich experience. It also typically gets updates before any other Android phone. Hence its Google's flagship phone regardless of its specs.
Edit: No, don't bring rooting in here. They're not official nor is it accessible for most people.
On May 06 2012 11:58 Soulfire wrote: What's the difference between the international variant and AT&T variant? Or is it impossible to know until it's announced?
International variant is the one with the Exynos 4 quad core processor that was announced and shown off on May 3rd in London. The one you see in all the pictures that are floating around right now.
The US variant is likely to have a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 dual core processor (yes US gets shafted once again, though I guess there's one bright side to it is that you get LTE). Other variants might also get rid of the physical home button and use capacitive (like the Nexus S or some of the Galaxy S2 variants) or on-screen buttons instead (like the Galaxy Nexus). There may be other tweaks as well to the screen, design, battery, etc.
Just look at the S2, there are like more than a dozen variants -_- and they just released a new variant this April too lol.
Well, that's a shame, it seems odd that they'd just change one of the most significant upgrades (dual to quadcore) like that.
Thanks for all the advice guys, guess I'll just wait. That replaceable battery is too big a deal.
The Incredible 4G is coming out by the end of the month, supposedly. I was considering getting one but it seems like it won't even be as good at the current iteration of the Rezound. Does anyone know when the S3 should be released in the US? I know sometime this month for the UK.
On May 06 2012 11:58 Soulfire wrote: What's the difference between the international variant and AT&T variant? Or is it impossible to know until it's announced?
International variant is the one with the Exynos 4 quad core processor that was announced and shown off on May 3rd in London. The one you see in all the pictures that are floating around right now.
The US variant is likely to have a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 dual core processor (yes US gets shafted once again, though I guess there's one bright side to it is that you get LTE). Other variants might also get rid of the physical home button and use capacitive (like the Nexus S or some of the Galaxy S2 variants) or on-screen buttons instead (like the Galaxy Nexus). There may be other tweaks as well to the screen, design, battery, etc.
Just look at the S2, there are like more than a dozen variants -_- and they just released a new variant this April too lol.
Well, that's a shame, it seems odd that they'd just change one of the most significant upgrades (dual to quadcore) like that.
Thanks for all the advice guys, guess I'll just wait. That replaceable battery is too big a deal.
to be honest, the battery issue really depends on how you use the phone and how often do you switch another phone. who knows how far the phones will develope in 2 years time and maybe you want to buy another. (android 6.0, 12 core? lol) I know that some people do buy a spare battery but then you could also get a portable mobile charger (which I have and use it for my mobile and also my mp3 player
I'm waiting for a review as soon as it is released. At the moment I would go for the HTC One X, just because of the better chassis. From what I heard the S3 got too much plastic, which doesn't make it look and feel right for this price.
On May 06 2012 19:47 Zumm wrote: I'm waiting for a review as soon as it is released. At the moment I would go for the HTC One X, just because of the better chassis. From what I heard the S3 got too much plastic, which doesn't make it look and feel right for this price.
I have an SGS2 and correct me if I'm wrong but that's plastic right?
Taking the back cover off feels quite scary, bending a plastic panel and whatnot, but luckily most don't have to do it much at all. But in normal usage, the whole phone is damn solid and strong, probably thanks a lot to the Gorilla glass front. Also plastic makes the phone really, really light, it's like Kate Moss vs Oprah when compared to the iPhone 4(S).
Yeah metal unibodies feel and sound more luxurious and appropriate for the price, but if everything else is superior in the S3 vs the One X, don't let this factor deter you.
On May 06 2012 11:58 Soulfire wrote: What's the difference between the international variant and AT&T variant? Or is it impossible to know until it's announced?
International variant is the one with the Exynos 4 quad core processor that was announced and shown off on May 3rd in London. The one you see in all the pictures that are floating around right now.
The US variant is likely to have a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 dual core processor (yes US gets shafted once again, though I guess there's one bright side to it is that you get LTE). Other variants might also get rid of the physical home button and use capacitive (like the Nexus S or some of the Galaxy S2 variants) or on-screen buttons instead (like the Galaxy Nexus). There may be other tweaks as well to the screen, design, battery, etc.
Just look at the S2, there are like more than a dozen variants -_- and they just released a new variant this April too lol.
Well, that's a shame, it seems odd that they'd just change one of the most significant upgrades (dual to quadcore) like that.
Thanks for all the advice guys, guess I'll just wait. That replaceable battery is too big a deal.
HTC One X suffered the same fate iirc. It uses Snapdragon S4 as well.
The quad core Exynos 4 does not support US LTE so the change to the dual core Snapdragon S4 is primarily for LTE support.
This is what happens when the dumbass carriers in North America push for LTE and use a different frequency band than the rest of the world.
On May 06 2012 17:38 Zalithian wrote: The Incredible 4G is coming out by the end of the month, supposedly. I was considering getting one but it seems like it won't even be as good at the current iteration of the Rezound. Does anyone know when the S3 should be released in the US? I know sometime this month for the UK.
On May 06 2012 11:58 Soulfire wrote: What's the difference between the international variant and AT&T variant? Or is it impossible to know until it's announced?
International variant is the one with the Exynos 4 quad core processor that was announced and shown off on May 3rd in London. The one you see in all the pictures that are floating around right now.
The US variant is likely to have a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 dual core processor (yes US gets shafted once again, though I guess there's one bright side to it is that you get LTE). Other variants might also get rid of the physical home button and use capacitive (like the Nexus S or some of the Galaxy S2 variants) or on-screen buttons instead (like the Galaxy Nexus). There may be other tweaks as well to the screen, design, battery, etc.
Just look at the S2, there are like more than a dozen variants -_- and they just released a new variant this April too lol.
Well, that's a shame, it seems odd that they'd just change one of the most significant upgrades (dual to quadcore) like that.
Thanks for all the advice guys, guess I'll just wait. That replaceable battery is too big a deal.
HTC One X suffered the same fate iirc. It uses Snapdragon S4 as well.
The quad core Exynos 4 does not support US LTE so the change to the dual core Snapdragon S4 is primarily for LTE support.
This is what happens when the dumbass carriers in North America push for LTE and use a different frequency band than the rest of the world.
On May 06 2012 17:38 Zalithian wrote: The Incredible 4G is coming out by the end of the month, supposedly. I was considering getting one but it seems like it won't even be as good at the current iteration of the Rezound. Does anyone know when the S3 should be released in the US? I know sometime this month for the UK.
Summer 2012. Read the thread -.-
Ah yes, Summer 2012. Who knew? Thanks for the condescending response.
On May 07 2012 04:34 7mk wrote: hmpf... I will get a new phone contract in October....... still dont know now if i should get an S3, S2 or a Nexus.
By then there might be something totally new and probably better than all the current phones so it would probably be wise to wait and see. Not to mention if you wait a couple months after October there might be a new Nexus phone out.
On May 07 2012 04:34 7mk wrote: hmpf... I will get a new phone contract in October....... still dont know now if i should get an S3, S2 or a Nexus.
By then there might be something totally new and probably better than all the current phones so it would probably be wise to wait and see. Not to mention if you wait a couple months after October there might be a new Nexus phone out.
Yeah I was thinking about just getting myself a contract without minimum duration and continuing with my SGS1 for a little longer depends of course on if theres any interesting announcements, dunno how likely a new nexus is any time soon
On May 07 2012 04:34 7mk wrote: hmpf... I will get a new phone contract in October....... still dont know now if i should get an S3, S2 or a Nexus.
By then there might be something totally new and probably better than all the current phones so it would probably be wise to wait and see. Not to mention if you wait a couple months after October there might be a new Nexus phone out.
Yeah I was thinking about just getting myself a contract without minimum duration and continuing with my SGS1 for a little longer depends of course on if theres any interesting announcements, dunno how likely a new nexus is any time soon
That's the boat I'll be in soon as well. My upgrade is at the beginning of September, but I probably will just continue on a month-to-month contract until the new Nexus phone is released unless the SGS3 completely floors me when I try it.
On May 07 2012 04:34 7mk wrote: hmpf... I will get a new phone contract in October....... still dont know now if i should get an S3, S2 or a Nexus.
By then there might be something totally new and probably better than all the current phones so it would probably be wise to wait and see. Not to mention if you wait a couple months after October there might be a new Nexus phone out.
Yeah I was thinking about just getting myself a contract without minimum duration and continuing with my SGS1 for a little longer depends of course on if theres any interesting announcements, dunno how likely a new nexus is any time soon
If google keeps up with there current release cycle then you can probably expect the next nexus around this fall or winter. I have the Galaxy Nexus and i love it, i got it off contract and will probably grab the new one this coming winter when i can get it on contract.
On May 07 2012 06:08 sickoota wrote: The galaxy is the most massive phone I've ever seen, who would want to carry that around lol. Is this one any smaller?
The SGS3 is smaller than the Galaxy Nexus but slightly larger than the SGS2.
You must be a midget to think that the SGS2 is a massive phone (unless you're referring to the Galaxy Nexus).
I just HATE the fact that american cell phone companies blatantly put their ugly brand logo on front of my sexy galaxy phones. This is the main reason why I will most likely buy the international version, to avoid the ugly logo on front of my phone.
On May 07 2012 15:50 TehPrime wrote: I just HATE the fact that american cell phone companies blatantly put their ugly brand logo on front of my sexy galaxy phones. This is the main reason why I will most likely buy the international version, to avoid the ugly logo on front of my phone.
Yeah they do that in Canada too. I'm lucky though because my provider isn't one of the Big 3 here (Bell, Telus, Rogers) and mine sells the international version of phones or the Bell version without branding.
On May 06 2012 06:12 Firebolt145 wrote: You can root HTC as well, yes. All Androids phone can be rooted.
no you can't. lots of phones have locked bootloaders.
You can root most Android phones, not all. I believe most motorola are still bootlocked, although they failed at it so sometimes it can still be rooted even if they are locked.
On May 07 2012 15:50 TehPrime wrote: I just HATE the fact that american cell phone companies blatantly put their ugly brand logo on front of my sexy galaxy phones. This is the main reason why I will most likely buy the international version, to avoid the ugly logo on front of my phone.
Yeah they do that in Canada too. I'm lucky though because my provider isn't one of the Big 3 here (Bell, Telus, Rogers) and mine sells the international version of phones or the Bell version without branding.
Rogers and Bell don't brand their phones though...?
On May 07 2012 15:50 TehPrime wrote: I just HATE the fact that american cell phone companies blatantly put their ugly brand logo on front of my sexy galaxy phones. This is the main reason why I will most likely buy the international version, to avoid the ugly logo on front of my phone.
Yeah they do that in Canada too. I'm lucky though because my provider isn't one of the Big 3 here (Bell, Telus, Rogers) and mine sells the international version of phones or the Bell version without branding.
Rogers and Bell don't brand their phones though...?
but they do.... so says the giant rogers logo on the back of my sgh-i727
I'm still going for the S2 simply cos I've had my heart set on it since its release, luckily my contract runs out just as the S3 comes out, so fingers crossed the monthly bill will go down xD
Any idea on the battery life on this thing? That is the single most determining factor for me when it comes to any high end phone, as the practical and functional differences of these things for anyone not a hardcore phone enthusiast is probably quite small
On May 07 2012 15:50 TehPrime wrote: I just HATE the fact that american cell phone companies blatantly put their ugly brand logo on front of my sexy galaxy phones. This is the main reason why I will most likely buy the international version, to avoid the ugly logo on front of my phone.
Yeah they do that in Canada too. I'm lucky though because my provider isn't one of the Big 3 here (Bell, Telus, Rogers) and mine sells the international version of phones or the Bell version without branding.
Rogers and Bell don't brand their phones though...?
but they do.... so says the giant rogers logo on the back of my sgh-i727
Yeah my brother's last phone had a Rogers logo on it as well.
Bell may not, but the other two certainly do. We just got Bell here so I'm not familiar with them.
On May 08 2012 06:36 Elegy wrote: Any idea on the battery life on this thing? That is the single most determining factor for me when it comes to any high end phone, as the practical and functional differences of these things for anyone not a hardcore phone enthusiast is probably quite small
Samsung claims that their quad core technology drains less power than current dual core smartphones. So it's a possibility.
On May 08 2012 06:36 Elegy wrote: Any idea on the battery life on this thing? That is the single most determining factor for me when it comes to any high end phone, as the practical and functional differences of these things for anyone not a hardcore phone enthusiast is probably quite small
Samsung claims that their quad core technology drains less power than current dual core smartphones. So it's a possibility.
Chances of a quad core in the US for this phone are slim.
On May 08 2012 16:12 _Ice_ wrote: My question to Samsung: what do we need to use on our phones that require utilizing four cores? :S
I'd rather Samsung focusing on improving battery life. My Galaxy Nexus, idling most of the time, can't even last a day.
This goes for all the other phone vendors!
The answer to your question is right above your post.
Interestingly enough my Galaxy S2 can do about 36-48 hours when mostly idling. I haven't done anything to try and deliberately prolong my battery life. On normal to high usage I'd say it lasts about 16 to 20 hours on a full charge, which I'm reasonably happy with.
On May 08 2012 06:36 Elegy wrote: Any idea on the battery life on this thing? That is the single most determining factor for me when it comes to any high end phone, as the practical and functional differences of these things for anyone not a hardcore phone enthusiast is probably quite small
Samsung claims that their quad core technology drains less power than current dual core smartphones. So it's a possibility.
Chances of a quad core in the US for this phone are slim.
what does that even mean? it will come to the US (with a quad-core of course what else could it be?) to GSM networks (ATT).
On May 08 2012 16:12 _Ice_ wrote: My question to Samsung: what do we need to use on our phones that require utilizing four cores? :S
I'd rather Samsung focusing on improving battery life. My Galaxy Nexus, idling most of the time, can't even last a day.
This goes for all the other phone vendors!
You answered you own question. They are improving battery life. 4 cores use less power then 2. by 20% or so. read up on how they make those processors if you want to know how it's possible.
On May 08 2012 06:36 Elegy wrote: Any idea on the battery life on this thing? That is the single most determining factor for me when it comes to any high end phone, as the practical and functional differences of these things for anyone not a hardcore phone enthusiast is probably quite small
hm, well the S3 has a 2100maH battery (larger than Nexus or S2) with a screen smaller than teh galaxy note, I think this will be able to have quite nice battery life. the Galaxy note has a larger screen and batter (2500mah) and it lasts freaking forever.
On May 08 2012 16:12 _Ice_ wrote: My question to Samsung: what do we need to use on our phones that require utilizing four cores? :S
I'd rather Samsung focusing on improving battery life. My Galaxy Nexus, idling most of the time, can't even last a day.
This goes for all the other phone vendors!
you have a wakelock if your phone can't last a day simply idling. get "BetterBatteryStats" and see what rogue app is killing your battery.
as for quadcores, im not really sure, but i've handled my friend's HTC One X and that thing is amazingly fast. i thought my S2 was pretty smooth too.. wait until you get your hands on these new quadcore android monsters
On May 08 2012 06:36 Elegy wrote: Any idea on the battery life on this thing? That is the single most determining factor for me when it comes to any high end phone, as the practical and functional differences of these things for anyone not a hardcore phone enthusiast is probably quite small
Samsung claims that their quad core technology drains less power than current dual core smartphones. So it's a possibility.
Chances of a quad core in the US for this phone are slim.
what does that even mean? it will come to the US (with a quad-core of course what else could it be?) to GSM networks (ATT).
On May 08 2012 16:12 _Ice_ wrote: My question to Samsung: what do we need to use on our phones that require utilizing four cores? :S
I'd rather Samsung focusing on improving battery life. My Galaxy Nexus, idling most of the time, can't even last a day.
This goes for all the other phone vendors!
You answered you own question. They are improving battery life. 4 cores use less power then 2. by 20% or so. read up on how they make those processors if you want to know how it's possible.
It means the quad core Exynos processor is not 4G compatible. The US carriers will likely see the dual core version (Snapdragon S4) instead of any quad core processors. This is the same reason the HTC One X on ATT is dual core instead of quad.
On April 23 2012 14:54 zatic wrote: I just hope it won't really be 4.8" wide. That is too freaking huge for a phone.
When you talk about screensizes it's not the width. It's the diagonal. 4.8" seems reasonable to me. I'd love this phone. Unfortunately it will be sooooo expensive
On May 04 2012 04:03 biomech wrote: i dunno.. doesn't look as awesome as i expected, but there's still a quad core cpu in there looking forward to try it out some though (with more skepticism than enthusiasm, contrary to pre-seeing official pictures)
A dual-core CPU lets me watch twitch TV streams at 720p. I really don't see how a quad-core CPU could help.
I have the Galaxy S II and it does the same thing. I don't really see the need for a quad core processor in a phone yet either.
On May 04 2012 04:03 biomech wrote: i dunno.. doesn't look as awesome as i expected, but there's still a quad core cpu in there looking forward to try it out some though (with more skepticism than enthusiasm, contrary to pre-seeing official pictures)
A dual-core CPU lets me watch twitch TV streams at 720p. I really don't see how a quad-core CPU could help.
I have the Galaxy S II and it does the same thing. I don't really see the need for a quad core processor in a phone yet either.
then you don't know what the advantages off a quad core are, besides the obvious more processing power.
On May 04 2012 04:03 biomech wrote: i dunno.. doesn't look as awesome as i expected, but there's still a quad core cpu in there looking forward to try it out some though (with more skepticism than enthusiasm, contrary to pre-seeing official pictures)
A dual-core CPU lets me watch twitch TV streams at 720p. I really don't see how a quad-core CPU could help.
I have the Galaxy S II and it does the same thing. I don't really see the need for a quad core processor in a phone yet either.
then you don't know what the advantages off a quad core are, besides the obvious more processing power.
Like I already said, the US is very likely NOT getting quad core Samsung S3's so it doesn't matter. It also seems the dual core HTC One gets better battery life than the quad. Not sure how the Enyxos compares to the S4 though. Only have comparisons between the Tegra 3 and S4.
On May 04 2012 04:03 biomech wrote: i dunno.. doesn't look as awesome as i expected, but there's still a quad core cpu in there looking forward to try it out some though (with more skepticism than enthusiasm, contrary to pre-seeing official pictures)
A dual-core CPU lets me watch twitch TV streams at 720p. I really don't see how a quad-core CPU could help.
I have the Galaxy S II and it does the same thing. I don't really see the need for a quad core processor in a phone yet either.
then you don't know what the advantages off a quad core are, besides the obvious more processing power.
Like I already said, the US is very likely NOT getting quad core Samsung S3's so it doesn't matter. It also seems the dual core HTC One gets better battery life than the quad. Not sure how the Enyxos compares to the S4 though. Only have comparisons between the Tegra 3 and S4.
maybe they won't be stupid and will just release a quad core HSPA+ ? 4G is just a worthless battery drain in my eyes anyways.
On May 04 2012 04:03 biomech wrote: i dunno.. doesn't look as awesome as i expected, but there's still a quad core cpu in there looking forward to try it out some though (with more skepticism than enthusiasm, contrary to pre-seeing official pictures)
A dual-core CPU lets me watch twitch TV streams at 720p. I really don't see how a quad-core CPU could help.
I have the Galaxy S II and it does the same thing. I don't really see the need for a quad core processor in a phone yet either.
then you don't know what the advantages off a quad core are, besides the obvious more processing power.
Like I already said, the US is very likely NOT getting quad core Samsung S3's so it doesn't matter. It also seems the dual core HTC One gets better battery life than the quad. Not sure how the Enyxos compares to the S4 though. Only have comparisons between the Tegra 3 and S4.
maybe they won't be stupid and will just release a quad core HSPA+ ? 4G is just a worthless battery drain in my eyes anyways.
3G here is terribly slow on Verizon. I top out at 1mbps. On 4g the minimum speed is about 8mbps. Hardly a useless battery drain. Sure, I'd like a quad core here in the US, but I'll take the best dual core available with LTE over a quad core with no LTE. In real world performance there doesn't appear to be much if any difference between the Tegra 3 and S4 at least.
On May 04 2012 04:03 biomech wrote: i dunno.. doesn't look as awesome as i expected, but there's still a quad core cpu in there looking forward to try it out some though (with more skepticism than enthusiasm, contrary to pre-seeing official pictures)
A dual-core CPU lets me watch twitch TV streams at 720p. I really don't see how a quad-core CPU could help.
I have the Galaxy S II and it does the same thing. I don't really see the need for a quad core processor in a phone yet either.
then you don't know what the advantages off a quad core are, besides the obvious more processing power.
Like I already said, the US is very likely NOT getting quad core Samsung S3's so it doesn't matter. It also seems the dual core HTC One gets better battery life than the quad. Not sure how the Enyxos compares to the S4 though. Only have comparisons between the Tegra 3 and S4.
maybe they won't be stupid and will just release a quad core HSPA+ ? 4G is just a worthless battery drain in my eyes anyways.
If the international variant was being released in the US, it would already be up for notification / pre-order but I'm pretty sure it's not.
Good thing Canadian carriers aren't dumb and are actually getting the international variant.
On April 27 2012 08:11 MrHoon wrote: will it have a home button?!
Please tell me it will have a home button, i don't care if it is on the side or something I just want a home button that isnt LED
At least in the US, I'm relatively sure the S3 won't have a physical home button. Apple won some lawsuit a while ago in the US that prevents other phones/devices to have a button because they claim it's a patented design or something like that. Learned this when I was on vacation in HK/Macau with a friend and he wanted to visit a local phone store and see the Nexus and S2 with a button, which doesn't exist in the US. Glad at least other countries are smart enough to ignore Apple's pettiness.
On May 09 2012 07:48 Art_of_Kill wrote: sgs3 is a fucking awesome phone, sd card slot and you can remove the battery unlike the htc phone too bad it is way too big, almost tablet size
guess i will stick with my SGS for a while, if android publisher keeps creating over sized phones, i might replace my SGS with a win8/iphone5 :/
its kinda sad that there is no decent (up to date hardware) 4-4,3" android phones
The Incredible 4G is coming out on Verizon this month, but the specs are pretty disappointing. It's a 4 inch phone though. 1.2 Ghz dual core Qualcomm S4.
On May 09 2012 08:25 Cornstarched wrote: it better have a better internet interface than s2, fuck i hate it, Streaming is a bitch on it
...then get a different browser...
Which is like the greatest thing about Android, anything you dislike can probably be replaced by something from Play Shop, besides the stock browser I've also got Opera and Firefox running, though I uninstalled Dolphin because it was causing random restarts, somehow.
But hey, at least you can watch streams on the S2.
On May 09 2012 08:25 Cornstarched wrote: it better have a better internet interface than s2, fuck i hate it, Streaming is a bitch on it
...then get a different browser...
Which is like the greatest thing about Android, anything you dislike can probably be replaced by something from Play Shop, besides the stock browser I've also got Opera and Firefox running, though I uninstalled Dolphin because it was causing random restarts, somehow.
But hey, at least you can watch streams on the S2.
I only use Opera Mobile right now and it's the best out of all the browsers I've tried in the past. Admittedly I haven't tried Firefox/Chrome on Android yet.
I am currently moving away from a T-Mobile Wing. Is the S3 a good option for me if I know I want an Android phone? Outside of costs, what would be some advantages of the S2?
Oh sorry. Yeah basically I want to know what are some of the positives of the S2 over the S3 besides cost if there are any. I have to move away from the Wing, but getting the latest and greatest isn't always best. I was just trying to get some user input before I pull the trigger on one of the two.
thats not true, it's cheaper and lighter, and smaller which might also be positive for some people.
people seem to have different opinions about how long the battery will last, but it seems S3 might last longer than S2? dunno but if s2 lasted longer that would of course be another advantage
The S3 is the natural successor to the S2. It's naturally going to be better in almost every way except cost. It has a bigger and higher resolution screen, quad core instead of dual core, a better graphics card, more memory. If you're not simply looking for the best phone out there, the thing you have to ask yourself is that for the extra price that will come with the S3, do you absolutely need everything that it has over the S2?
Personally I didn't, and thus I am very happy with my S2 and have no plans to upgrade to the S3.
Man, the specs on this phone are just flat out SICK, I don't think I've ever seen peope talk about putting a quad core processor in a phone before!
I own the Galaxy Nexus (recently upgraded from the original Galaxy S), and it's a fantastic phone. The UI is really snappy which is a big step up from that of the S and the S2, both of which I've noticed significant lag in using. If anything, it's a little big for my girly mitts, but other than its cost (I bought it outright for 600 bucks, I did the math and taking into account the contract break fee it was cheaper for me to buy the phone straight up), I have no problems with it.
Since I bought the Nexus outright I'll be eligible for another upgrade in a year and a half when the original contract runs out, maybe I'll get this one if it's all that it's currently being cracked up to be.
so...how come the US always gets screwed in the processor department? Im sure people here would prefer the quad core of the dual....so what gives? any input on why this happens?
On May 11 2012 04:36 HeavenS wrote: so...how come the US always gets screwed in the processor department? Im sure people here would prefer the quad core of the dual....so what gives? any input on why this happens?
Because US LTE uses a different band than what the rest of the world uses.
On May 11 2012 04:36 HeavenS wrote: so...how come the US always gets screwed in the processor department? Im sure people here would prefer the quad core of the dual....so what gives? any input on why this happens?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the reason that you guys get dual-core is because quad-core can't handle 4G.
Not bad deal i got on my S3. £31 a month 900mins unlimited texts 500mb data pretty happy also cuz pre ordered got free 32GB chip and phone cover. Happy days.... NOW HURRY UP MAY 29TH
Samsung Galaxy S III over HTC One X * Bigger screen - 4.8" over 4.7" * Higher display contrast and better sunlight legibility * More storage options - 16/32/64GB + microSD over non-expandable 32GB * S Voice natural language commands and dictation * S Beam for easy and fast file transfers * User-accessible 2100mAh battery over non-removable 1800mAh battery * 1.9MP front-facing camera with Smart Stay
The Samsung Galaxy S III has a slight edge in processing, the Mali-400MP GPU nosing out the HTC One X ULP GeForce. It's also the one with the better screen: the 4.8" Super AMOLED has superior contrast, viewing angles, sunlight legibility and, thanks to the screen saturation modes, greater flexibility. It does use a PenTile matrix, but it hardly makes any difference at those ppi levels.
The still camera and video recording (in good lighting) and audio quality tests win a few more points for the Samsung I9300 Galaxy S III, and so do the better battery life and expandable storage.
Finally, Samsung have managed to teach their top dog plenty of neat software tricks and while some of them are rather useless (technology still hasn't reached the point where voice assistants are actually good for more than a few laughs), others are pretty cool (we really loved the Direct Call and Smart Stay features).
If that 4G LTE version is the same as the one planned for Japan, you may want to check the specs again. It has a dual core 1.5 Ghz CPU instead of the quad core the other version has.
On May 28 2012 20:48 Darth_Ihsahn wrote: If that 4G LTE version is the same as the one planned for Japan, you may want to check the specs again. It has a dual core 1.5 Ghz CPU instead of the quad core the other version has.
Well yeah. The dual core Snapdragon S4 CPU is more efficient anyway. Samsung Galaxy S3 has the best CPU, RAM and camera.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S3 blue in my hands right now, going to a launch event next week in Brussels. Was planning on getting me a Sony Xperia S, but I am going to get a Samsung Galaxy S3..
Oh crap, hope that wrong Bluzark I ordered a blue one (pre ordered) i dont think its arrived yet as i sent it to my old mans work not my work. Hmmm, oh well aslong as i get before end of the week i wont be too mad.
On May 11 2012 04:27 HyperionDreamer wrote: Man, the specs on this phone are just flat out SICK, I don't think I've ever seen peope talk about putting a quad core processor in a phone before!
I've had my Galaxy S2 for a while now and it is bar none the best phone I have ever had the pleasure of using. Is there anyone here that's had play around with the S3? Is it worth investing in this model a bit further down the track, or am I better off just waiting a year or so for the S4, since there really is nothing wrong with the S2...
On May 30 2012 19:22 bLecK wrote: I've had my Galaxy S2 for a while now and it is bar none the best phone I have ever had the pleasure of using. Is there anyone here that's had play around with the S3? Is it worth investing in this model a bit further down the track, or am I better off just waiting a year or so for the S4, since there really is nothing wrong with the S2...
i would wait...i feel that the s2 is still very competitive and i don't think people really need all those quad core stuff to do whatever. also the software features of the s3 are rather gimmicky and not needed. so unless you really realy really want a faster phone and the features of the s3 i wouldn't change
On May 30 2012 19:22 bLecK wrote: I've had my Galaxy S2 for a while now and it is bar none the best phone I have ever had the pleasure of using. Is there anyone here that's had play around with the S3? Is it worth investing in this model a bit further down the track, or am I better off just waiting a year or so for the S4, since there really is nothing wrong with the S2...
I am still using a s8000(you probably don't even know it :D) i don't see why people invest that much into cell phones, you ain't run starcraft on it...
In order to meet the highest internal quality standards and to provide the best quality GALAXY S III to customers, a short supply of the Pebble Blue version is expected in some regions in the next 2-3 weeks.
Is basically what i got in the big long email from Phones4U on behalf of samsung (who i pre ordered with) Bit annoying really was really looking forward to this fone
They are giving me a cheque for my first months line rental though so i guess i might get 2 weeks free if it comes 2 weeks into June
S3 will officially go gold in Vietnam tomorrow but there are some people that already got the phone. Here are some photos of unboxing the phone. Look damn sweet and sexy to me.
On May 30 2012 19:49 Caphe wrote: S3 will officially go gold in Vietnam tomorrow but there are some people that already got the phone. Here are some photos of unboxing the phone. Look damn sweet and sexy to me. + Show Spoiler +
Apparently if you pre-order it on Verizon in US (darn just noticed almost everyone who has posted lately here is nonUS), you can extend your unlimited contract. Basically VZ told everyone that they're ending unlimited contract the next time you upgrade (and eventually all unlimited or non-tiered plans in general will all be gone in the future), so this is some good news. Unconfirmed rumor but a rep didn't confirm or deny either way, so there's a chance!
Checked it out and played with it. Not going to talk about performance because there's nothing wrong with its performance. Stuff loads, for the most part there's no real stutter, etc.
Its ergonomically very, very good. Its very large but Samsung is smart enough to not put the lock button at the top. This is a problem with many larger phones like the One X and Xperia S. I have no doubt it'll survive a lot of drops too since the chassis is fairly flexible.
As for feel and aesthetics, I dislike it much more than the Galaxy S II. The use of fake metal is beyond tacky and feels like shit, glossy plastic is the bane of consumer electronics and scratches badly, and the new home button is much worse than the previous generation. Its raised. so fairly easy to find, but its feeling is...well no where near as good as the Galaxy S II or iOS devices which are depressed and fit the thumb well.
For the white phone, the two capacitive buttons are very difficult to see because the backlighting is white for some reason. Useful in the dark but hard to see outdoors or in any relatively bright area. I imagine this is much better with the blue marble (?) version.
As for the OLED screen, its nothing to write home about because its everything you already know. Deep blacks and contrast, pentile so some icons look very strange when viewed closely, and it still has strange saturation and tinting issues. I personally think the One X still has the better screen...black depth is something I don't really care about in a phone.
All in all, its what you've come to expect from Samsung. If nothing new comes out in the next few months, I might pick one up. The One X, while feeling much better, has the fatal flaw of being impossible to use with a single hand.
Got to play around with it a bit and I must say I'm a fan. As an iPhone user, I was most impressed by the snappy feel of the interface. Previous to this phone I had never used an android device that rivals the snappiness of the iPhone, it felt really nice.
This phone is perhaps the only Android I can imagine substituting my iPhone for.
Quad Core on a phone? Is that Overkill? I'm interested in how the Smart stay works... I still got my Galaxy S, how long do you guys think it can last before its as relevant as a nokia brick?
Checked it out and played with it. Not going to talk about performance because there's nothing wrong with its performance. Stuff loads, for the most part there's no real stutter, etc.
Its ergonomically very, very good. Its very large but Samsung is smart enough to not put the lock button at the top. This is a problem with many larger phones like the One X and Xperia S. I have no doubt it'll survive a lot of drops too since the chassis is fairly flexible.
As for feel and aesthetics, I dislike it much more than the Galaxy S II. The use of fake metal is beyond tacky and feels like shit, glossy plastic is the bane of consumer electronics and scratches badly, and the new home button is much worse than the previous generation. Its raised. so fairly easy to find, but its feeling is...well no where near as good as the Galaxy S II or iOS devices which are depressed and fit the thumb well.
For the white phone, the two capacitive buttons are very difficult to see because the backlighting is white for some reason. Useful in the dark but hard to see outdoors or in any relatively bright area. I imagine this is much better with the blue marble (?) version.
As for the OLED screen, its nothing to write home about because its everything you already know. Deep blacks and contrast, pentile so some icons look very strange when viewed closely, and it still has strange saturation and tinting issues. I personally think the One X still has the better screen...black depth is something I don't really care about in a phone.
All in all, its what you've come to expect from Samsung. If nothing new comes out in the next few months, I might pick one up. The One X, while feeling much better, has the fatal flaw of being impossible to use with a single hand.
Darn, so it indeed looks pretty tacky in person D: thanks for the info, I'll definitely be looking for the blue version.....but then I just realized that one has to preorder to continue one's grandfathered unlimited plan grahhh, hope blue comes out soon enough =__=
iirc you are a regular in tech support, I forget what you do for a living or w/e but it was tech related so there's probably nothing I can really tell you that you don't know already, unless it's news, but you probably follow developments in technology as well out of curiosity, are you going to go for stock or will you root and flash some ROM on it? I was originally just going to say screw it and stick with stock despite my hating TW since some of the software features are really nice. But then the CM9 team announced that it would/could incorporate the features from SGSIII so I might just go there, even though a lot of their stuff turns out somewhat unstable even in the end. Since SGSIII will likely be really big, I'm hoping they have solid support for it ><
Eh network companies are greedy and usually charge for the ability to have wireless hotspots/mobile wifi, at least in the US, though there are ways to get around it [sometimes] I think. Not sure about Sweden's networks :/
On June 06 2012 14:42 Omnidroid wrote: Quad Core on a phone? Is that Overkill? I'm interested in how the Smart stay works... I still got my Galaxy S, how long do you guys think it can last before its as relevant as a nokia brick?
And is that a physical button at the bottom?
Yes its a physical button.
On June 06 2012 14:42 Aerisky wrote: iirc you are a regular in tech support, I forget what you do for a living or w/e but it was tech related so there's probably nothing I can really tell you that you don't know already, unless it's news, but you probably follow developments in technology as well out of curiosity, are you going to go for stock or will you root and flash some ROM on it? I was originally just going to say screw it and stick with stock despite my hating TW since some of the software features are really nice. But then the CM9 team announced that it would/could incorporate the features from SGSIII so I might just go there, even though a lot of their stuff turns out somewhat unstable even in the end. Since SGSIII will likely be really big, I'm hoping they have solid support for it ><
If I do get it, I'm probably not going to root it since, for me, a phone needs to: 1) Take calls 2) Accept emails 3) Take occasional photos that aren't shit. 4) Check stuff on the internet 5) Software and hardware is stable, smooth, responsive.
Rooting doesn't really improve any of these things. For the most part, the software is perfectly fine and isn't broken like the HTC One X is. I'm pretty sure the HTC One X has multitasking problems, which I thought was evident when I played with it since it behaved exactly like multiflow on iOS. Fairly hilarious how the majority of reviewers didn't pick up on it.
I didn't bother playing messing with the options too much, since the phone isn't mine, but the only thing I would seriously change is speed up the swipe animations (probably in options, didn't check). Its very smooth just the transition takes its time to go from one set of tiles/icons/widgets/whatever to the next.
I'm probably going to make my decision when the iPhone 5 (or whatever its called) gets released. I don't really care about iOS vs. Android. If the iPhone 5 comes with the rumored metal back instead of the glass back, I'm just probably going to get an iPhone. Price is irrelevant, I buy my phones outright and I use them for a long time. I don't chase after specs anymore unless it offers a huge noticeable benefit.
Ah I see. Personally, I like to tinker with mine quite a bit, sort of into customization etc, and yeah it's a huge timesink ._.
I hope iPhone 5 doesn't live up to your standards (or is lower vs SGSIII) because I'm a pretty big Android fan and just like to see people use Android. Not necessarily a fandroid (or insert other deprecatory name for Android fans) but there are various reasons I don't care for iOS much and hope people use Android~ hehe but your standards are fair enough of course. Looking forward to the 1ms latency (I think it was) that microsoft demoed becoming widely-adopted, since even the more responsive displays have a significant amount of latency--which imho is really annoying.
Hey guys ive been meaning to ask this a while on teamliquid for some advice , and now that this topic is about a cell phone i would like some opinions/help. I am 18 living with my parents (no job). i have not had a phone in a bout over a year my last phone was an LG chocolate....yeah ancient artifact, anyways, i wanted a new high end phone so ive been saving up and i got an eye set on the S2, however i have to find a phone that has a good plan, i live in St. Louis Missouri so carriers are kind vast. end of rambling -> Deciding for a Samsung galaxy S2 Q1: is it possible to get this phone to work on Virgin mobile ?, due to their plan where its unlimited text and data for 35$ seems very reasonable. Q2: is there any possible way to get this phone unlocked for less the 400$? Q3: in my current predicament i'm trying to get S2, but would it be better to wait for the S3 to come out and buy that for the probably ~$600 uncontracted price or will the S2 prices be lowered enough for me to purchase rather cheaply? I'm very noobish when it comes to buying a smartphone, i haven't had a good phone ever. so i will try to awnser any questions the best i can! TY!
Will reply more thoroughly when I have the time (also I'm sure there are others that can help you a lot better than I can >.<), but you can get the Galaxy Nexus for ~$420 (before taxes/fees) and the SII for $450, both off Amazon.
I would highly recommend the SGSIII (less than $200 more and it's a great deal better) but if money is really a tight issue and you don't want to be a burden on your parents, etc. those are the cheapest I've been able to find them. I'll let you know if I have better advice in general (than what I assume will be coming from other TL members) or if I can find those phones at a cheaper price.
On June 06 2012 16:33 Defiler1a2a3a4567 wrote: Hey guys ive been meaning to ask this a while on teamliquid for some advice , and now that this topic is about a cell phone i would like some opinions/help. I am 18 living with my parents (no job). i have not had a phone in a bout over a year my last phone was an LG chocolate....yeah ancient artifact, anyways, i wanted a new high end phone so ive been saving up and i got an eye set on the S2, however i have to find a phone that has a good plan, i live in St. Louis Missouri so carriers are kind vast. end of rambling -> Deciding for a Samsung galaxy S2 Q1: is it possible to get this phone to work on Virgin mobile ?, due to their plan where its unlimited text and data for 35$ seems very reasonable. Q2: is there any possible way to get this phone unlocked for less the 400$? Q3: in my current predicament i'm trying to get S2, but would it be better to wait for the S3 to come out and buy that for the probably ~$600 uncontracted price or will the S2 prices be lowered enough for me to purchase rather cheaply? I'm very noobish when it comes to buying a smartphone, i haven't had a good phone ever. so i will try to awnser any questions the best i can! TY!
kinda funny the htc one s and one x get buried so much under s3 and obligatory iphone hype. they are extremely good and in fact, since 4,6+" is too big for my taste, i think the one s is the best phone on the market.
On June 07 2012 04:26 Corvi wrote: kinda funny the htc one s and one x get buried so much under s3 and obligatory iphone hype. they are extremely good and in fact, since 4,6+" is too big for my taste, i think the one s is the best phone on the market.
page 14/15/16 cant remember which one some guy posted how S3 > One S xD but yeah imo best 2 phones on market is One S and S3
One X is generally superior to One S. Unless you specifically would like to get a smaller phone as Corvi did, in which case it's still a heck of a phone.
In my opinion it's unproductive debating back and forth about which phone is better; like a lot of things in this world, yes, one phone can specifically benchmark better here and there or have better specs here and there, etc, but there are numerous features that don't imply a clear-cut winner. There are some [intelligent, mind you] tech forums out there that absolutely love the One X and put it above SGSIII easily (iirc most Verge members really love the One X =__=), and there are others that prefer the SGSIII of course. And so it follows that there are a lot of people, in general, who like either one because it fits them much better. It's hard to say in no uncertain terms which phone is "best" unless one completely blows the other out of the water.
That being said, I look forward to get the SGSIII because it has more features that I want, and I don't particularly care about aesthetics (and honestly I don't think it looks *that* bad based on unboxings, pictures, etc) hehe
Just got my S3!! Its awesomeeee. So light its unreal, i thought with its size its going weight a bit, and after looking at the weight i was still pessimistic, but wow. Its feather light! Nice. Looks so cool and runs super fast. Great upgrade :D
Got mine yesterday, alrdy freaking love it. I was a bit worried about the size, but if you don´t have really small hands, it´s no problem at all. And the overall size isn´t that much bigger than the S2. Had a Iphone before, never apple again...the screen of that thing is almost as big as the whole iphone and the speed is not even comparable. TL:DR: LOVE IT!
Hmm yeah I'm thinking of sitting the S3 out and waiting for the possible S4... I had a play with a demo model of the S3 in my local store, and while I am impressed, it hasn't impressed me enough to warrant replacing my S2.
On June 16 2012 07:11 krndandaman wrote: hey guys, do you think its better to just get an iphone 4s if i have/use a macbook pro (i heard if you're gonna go apple its better to just go all apple) or should i get the sgs3? im liking the sgs3 slightly more but i feel like getting an iphone4s will be much more convenient. opinions?
If you had a iPad I'd agree with that since you can buy apps for both at the same time, but I don't think having a mac should impact your decision at all.
On June 16 2012 07:47 Froadac wrote: I am getting my first smartphone rahter soon,. Would S3 be overkill slash somewhat overwhelming to use? Is it worth the cost?
You have to weigh the issues with the OS. Here are the things that I know. There could be more. Android: -HUGE customization abilities -app store is ok -prone to malware
iPhone: -okay customization -huge app store -great security -NO FLASH SUPPORT (although, this is slowly becoming a non-issue with sites going to html5 and such)
Windows: -great security -tiny to non-existent app store
On June 16 2012 08:08 krndandaman wrote: how would you guys compare iphone4s and sgs3 cameras?
thats kind of important for me because my phone will be my main camera... all i need is something that takes great pictures of people and is easy to take selca's (self camera shots) with.
The difference should be negligible. They both have fantastic cameras. Obviously not as good as an actual legitimate camera, but as cell phones go, they're both very good. In terms of selca's, SGSIII is probably preferable because its front-facing camera shoots at 1.9 megapixels while that of the 4S shoots at 0.3 MP. Megapixels are no indicator of camera quality, but there is a very large disparity in resolution between the cameras of SGSIII and 4S.
4S does have a dedicated camera button personally I don't really care about a physical camera button. Google is your friend--you usually can find all sorts of info online
Here's a comparison from a reddit page for instance:
@Ercster: people commonly say that Android has poor security, but in all honesty, I cannot understand how it's easy to get malware on your phone. One has to install an application and agree to all of its permissions. For one, one should not be downloading random applications--just using common sense (few downloads, crap ratings, etc in the google play store; not downloading individual apks from random websites), one can avoid pretty much all of these issues. Security programs like Lookout are almost completely unnecessary. Just don't download and install random crap. Dunno, could be wrong because somehow I hear a few stories and programs like Lookout get tons of users, but afaik the only way to get malware on your phone is to install shady apks (for those of you who don't know, apk is the file format for distributing and installing android apps). YES the google play store is sort of a wild west in terms of security, but NO you shouldn't go running around downloading random apps anyway.
The app store is the one big thing that iOS definitely holds over Android though. Some other pros and cons are iOS's better usability (though personally I think Android is very easy to use) and the fact that Android allows you choice not only in software but in hardware. Also, I'm just going to say that while a lot of people jailbreak iOS to install apps for free, you don't *ahem* have to root your phone to so with Android (though rooting opens the way for massive customization). Conversely installing apks not from the store sometimes exposes you to malware but as long as you don't go looking for them in sketchy places, it's still generally safe.
To answer Froadac's question more directly, SGS3 won't be overwhelming. Android ICS is very simple to use and not at all confusing imho. Is it worth the cost is a different question altogether though, considering networks (assuming you live in US). ATT/Verizon are terrible companies who don't even pretend to care about customers, but Sprint's coverage is spotty. The price of the phone itself is a drop in the bucket compared to how much you'll be paying for data. Unless you're going to be on airplane mode (network off) and using wifi for most of the time, you'll be using up significant data. However, it's a great phone in my humble opinion. It may be overkill if you don't plan on gaming/putting some movies/browsing websites etc because it's definitely a top-of-the-line phone.
Hm basically selcas taken with the SGS3 will turn out less pixelated if you decide to stretch them. Also, you have zero shutter lag which basically means that the shutter closes and the picture is taken at pretty much the exact moment you make the action to take the picture.
It can record video in 720p as well, versus the 480p of the 4S camera. I'm searching for SGS3 front pics right now but can't seem to find them >.< The reason your friend's pictures may look really good is that they're shown on the small screen of the phone, so it looks better. Just a guess?
It doesn't look [t]that[/i] good perhaps because it's super stretched :P [url=http://www.totallydubbed.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/2012-06-14-18.54.57.jpg]http://www.totallydubbed.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/2012-06-14-18.54.57.jpg[/url]
Gonna order Samsung Galaxy Tab2 10.1 since it seems the best buy with what money I have (I excluded all ipads because I hate them). Anyone has it? Anyone know to give me some con's and pro's of it?
On June 16 2012 08:49 Ucs wrote: Gonna order Samsung Galaxy Tab2 10.1 since it seems the best buy with what money I have (I excluded all ipads because I hate them). Anyone has it? Anyone know to give me some con's and pro's of it?
In all honesty Apple has the tablet market all but cornered, and for good reason. I dislike Apple myself but I'm an open-minded guy, and honestly the new new iPad is a very good device, albeit pretty expensive.
My opinion is that if you want an Android tablet, you should either wait for the Nexus tab (which is supposed to be <$250, though it's 7" iirc?) or you should get the Transformer Prime (TP). ASUS's Android tablets are really really good. The components of the TP are better than that of the Tab2 (processor, better camera front/back, maybe battery life as long as you're not playing those ridiculously power hungry games, glass used for display, display type). Getting the dock can be very useful as well but it makes it even more expensive. If you really just want a cheap tablet then even rooting a Kindle Fire can be a good option, but all in all if you're on a budget than the cheapest Tab2 isn't bad of course.
damn those smartphones. they are so expensive. never had one but thought i might get an galaxy 3 or galaxy 2 (cause its cheaper now). but its still a big stack of money imo.
Not sure where you live bailando, but you can get one of the newer ones (Galaxy Nexus) for a penny on contract if you buy it from amazon
@SpaceFighting: have you seen it/felt it in person? It's true that people almost universally don't like the design (personally I'm actually quite partial to it hehe) but I know a few people who changed their minds after seeing it person. It feels really good in the hand which is a good thing, and I imagine you'd get used to it maybe ><
@krndandaman: oh good idea, crowd source from TL :D I want to see how good the front-facing cam pics look as well! Though some people might not want to take pics of themselves lol
On June 16 2012 09:04 Aerisky wrote: Not sure where you live bailando, but you can get one of the newer ones (Galaxy Nexus) for a penny on contract if you buy it from amazon
yeah thats how they get you (lol). i mean the contract is usually a trap or has bad conditions.
Yeah like I said, the price of the phone is a drop in the bucket compared to the price of the phone; I didn't know you meant the overall phone+contract I guess so I showed you an instance of a cheap phone (also off-contract phones aren't subsidized as you implied so there you have it o.e). I didn't know you live in Gemany so unfortunately I only have an idea of the networks in US, sowwy :< that particular one on amazon (I assume it's US only) is $650 off contract, $800 originally.
Hope you get an Android device if you eventually do get a smartphone >:D fwiw, there was a study that basically indicated that smartphones make you more stressed, so maybe not having one is better ;P
yeah i have right now an 15€ samsung with only a color-display and nothing special. its solid and the battery lasts at least 1,5 week. thought maybe the prices would drop and i could get one to use with my prepaid (9ct a msg/ a minute;pretty good imo)
at least i can open a beer with it. show me THAT mr.smartphone.
Your plan really isn't too shabby, honestly you can just stick to it if you want if budget is in issue, especially because most smartphones show no sign of falling prices (unless they're one of the really low-end) Also, on smartphones you're lucky to get 1,5 days out of some LOL, and I'm willing to bet some of the quad-core devices won't last more than 1,5 hours if you're playing one of those high-end games...
Oh also to stay more on topic, I just preordered my SGS3 in the modified blue/grey color after the original pebble blue's fiasco; will only get to use it when I get back to the states in mid-to-late July though.
Your plan really isn't too shabby, honestly you can just stick to it if you want if budget is in issue, especially because most smartphones show no sign of falling prices (unless they're one of the really low-end) Also, on smartphones you're lucky to get 1,5 days out of some LOL, and I'm willing to bet some of the quad-core devices won't last more than 1,5 hours if you're playing one of those high-end games...
Oh also to stay more on topic, I just preordered my SGS3 in the modified blue/grey color after the original pebble blue's fiasco; will only get to use it when I get back to the states in mid-to-late July though.
Original pebble blue fiasco? What fiasco are you speaking of? o.o
For some reason I can't remember they weren't able to to deliver stock of the pebble blue version of the S3 and as a result anyone that had preordered one had to wait an extra 2-3 weeks before receiving their phone.
I really hope they took that time to change the blue pebble model. It was a billion times worse than the white when it came to aesthetics. And this is in the world where the white isn't even very good in the build quality/aesthetics department. I've seen the original blue and I was actually horrified you can actually sell such expensive consumer hardware with such cheap materials.
I like the blue quite a bit but I'm not spending $800 for really awful faux brushed metal on a device I'm forced to look at and touch.
The original pebble blue paint job was botched lol. So pretty much it looked even worse than the apparently terrible paint job. I'm not 100% sure about the details because I didn't follow this story really, but basically samsung had issues with the original pebble blue's paint job coming out wrong, and I *think* they ended up changing the covers or something along those lines so it's a greyish color that looks tinged with blue at certain angles. Not entirely sure. My understanding is that the hyperglaze (so I thought the og blue color did have the gloss) was botched.
Decided to get the upgrade from Iphone 4 to S3, got the blue pebble one. Slowly getting used to it, love a ton of things, less fond of other things.
The freedom of android is mindblowing, which makes the android market, while slightly smaller than apple appstore, much more fun to search in. For example, I've been meaning to read Song of Ice And Fire, only read the first book, but I pretty much only read on my iphone and those books are extremely expensive on amazon.. since I'm at work, I couldn't check some less than legal sites for them.. so I downloaded a torrent program ON MY PHONE and got the 4 first books in kindle format, working perfectly in the official kindle app. Something like this, while maybe not useful every day, is something you simply can not do on an iPhone. Even with a jailbreaked iPhone it would be messy, but on my S3, I can do it without even rooting it.
iOS is still way more userfriendly though, which is understandable since that is like 80% of Apples focus. I find the settings etc on my S3 to be a mess and I've had to consult google several times to make it work like I want... but that's what I expect from a phone which lets me customize pretty much any part of it.
On June 18 2012 22:42 krndandaman wrote: my cousin with apple insider and contacts with apple told me that the iphone 5 is almost for certain going to be released in september. i told him i was thinking about getting s3 but he said i should wait for the iphone 5 cause it's going to be better (he saw the prototypes and everything).
imma wait and get iphone 5 :D
Of course it should be better. Waiting another 3-4 months to get a phone thats what happens. If you want to think with that logic the next Galaxy Note 2 will be coming out around November and most likely blow the iphone 5 out of the water.
The whole "I'll wait for the next one" when you clearly want to buy a product just doesn't fly in the tech world. There will always be something better around the corner.
In this case you could just be partial to liking Apple products/software of that of samsung/google.
I'm interested to see if theres significant improvement on the touch functionality. One of the reasons I prefer iPhones to Android-based phones (like the Galaxy S2) is a better touch feeling. If the Galaxy S3 improves on the touch functionality and its at least on the level of the iPhone I could definitely switch to a S3.
On June 16 2012 08:49 Ucs wrote: Gonna order Samsung Galaxy Tab2 10.1 since it seems the best buy with what money I have (I excluded all ipads because I hate them). Anyone has it? Anyone know to give me some con's and pro's of it?
I disagree that apple has the tablet market cornered, but i second the transformer prime suggestion, it's better buy for the money both in processing power, build quality, and company support (you'll get quicker updates to latest versions of the OS, both factory via Asus and open source 3rd party via cyanaogen mod and the like).
@Radioman: yeah, true that. Tech moves so quickly that you will be kept holding out indefinitely because a new and better device is always around the corner. That being said, Motorola is terrible about releasing its products lol. They release a phone and literally two months (I think) later, there is a better version of it, no joke.
@bokchoi: elaborate? What do you mean by touch functionality and touch feeling? They're both smartphones with capacitive touch screens...I'm not sure what you mean. What specific touch features do you feel Android lacks? :o
@catnzhat: yeah, I mean Apple can't actually control the tablet prices etc. I guess I meant more that Android tablets have almost a universally worse rep (i.e. from the most tech-savvy to the most chobo in tech) at least in my experience; also, I don't know the numbers, but iirc Apple has over 50% market share alone and thus is outselling Android tabs collectively ._. There are, of course, lots of reasons to like Android tabs though, I agree ^^
Anyone seen any reviews/comparisons of the NA version (1.5 dual core, 2gb ram?) I actually just found out that this version is different when I had been planning to get it for a while now >< Don't know how it compares to the quad core.
On June 19 2012 17:21 NeXiLe wrote: Anyone seen any reviews/comparisons of the NA version (1.5 dual core, 2gb ram?) I actually just found out that this version is different when I had been planning to get it for a while now >< Don't know how it compares to the quad core.
You should get it anyway. :D
I've heard that the 2 GB RAM is like a flagrant 2: both excessive and unnecessary. However, it's still a nice thing to have because it helps future-proof the phone as apps grow larger take up more memory (potentially).
The processor you shouldn't worry about being "worse". Yes, it benchmarks worse and generally does not perform as well as the exynos (quad-core) processor, but quad core phones are essentially a marketing gimmick because there is no way you'll be using 100% of every core--and even if you somehow are, you're going to rape your phone's battery. Unfortunately I don't have numbers on that, but more than 2 cores is truly excessive and unnecessary (more so than the RAM), though the exynos does perform better than krait (the dual core in the NA variant). It really shouldn't matter, and krait is also very efficient. The exynos has a really good gpu (mali-400) but honestly you shouldn't be playing hardcore 3D games etc, so the s4 krait should be more than enough.
On June 19 2012 17:21 NeXiLe wrote: Anyone seen any reviews/comparisons of the NA version (1.5 dual core, 2gb ram?) I actually just found out that this version is different when I had been planning to get it for a while now >< Don't know how it compares to the quad core.
From what I hear, the dual core is just as fast if not faster than the quad core. Which kind of makes sense to me considering how poorly threaded most applications are on phones.
I'm ordering a new phone this week and can't decide for either the Galaxy Nexus or S3. My previous phone was a HTC Sensation, which got ICS eventually (with weeks of delay), so I'm afraid of getting the S3 and regretting all the bloatware from TouchWiz and lateness of future Android upgrades in the future.
Anyone here tried both?
I have some friends who own Galaxy Nexuses and are very happy with it. Yesterday I played with an S3 for half an hour and it seemed nice, but I found the interface strange (from being used to HTC Sense and "native" ICS from using emulators and such).
The hardware improvements do not seem to matter much, except for the camera which appear to perform considerably better on low light conditions. Larger battery and quad core processor do not seem to really matter as much as I first though, after reading some reviews yesterday. Price difference also does not really matter.
On June 19 2012 18:09 VenomBRA wrote: I'm ordering a new phone this week and can't decide for either the Galaxy Nexus or S3. My previous phone was a HTC Sensation, which got ICS eventually (with weeks of delay), so I'm afraid of getting the S3 and regretting all the bloatware from TouchWiz and lateness of future Android upgrades in the future.
Anyone here tried both?
I have some friends who own Galaxy Nexuses and are very happy with it. Yesterday I played with an S3 for half an hour and it seemed nice, but I found the interface strange (from being used to HTC Sense and "native" ICS from using emulators and such).
The hardware improvements do not seem to matter much, except for the camera which appear to perform considerably better on low light conditions. Larger battery and quad core processor do not seem to really matter as much as I first though, after reading some reviews yesterday. Price difference also does not really matter.
I wouldn't worry too much about TouchWiz, worst case scenario, you simply root it and install another ROM.
On June 19 2012 18:09 VenomBRA wrote: I'm ordering a new phone this week and can't decide for either the Galaxy Nexus or S3. My previous phone was a HTC Sensation, which got ICS eventually (with weeks of delay), so I'm afraid of getting the S3 and regretting all the bloatware from TouchWiz and lateness of future Android upgrades in the future.
Anyone here tried both?
I have some friends who own Galaxy Nexuses and are very happy with it. Yesterday I played with an S3 for half an hour and it seemed nice, but I found the interface strange (from being used to HTC Sense and "native" ICS from using emulators and such).
The hardware improvements do not seem to matter much, except for the camera which appear to perform considerably better on low light conditions. Larger battery and quad core processor do not seem to really matter as much as I first though, after reading some reviews yesterday. Price difference also does not really matter.
i would.. get the S3. if you really need the latest version of android and all that stuff theres always custom ROMs cyanogenmod ftw.
if you can wait though, i'm sure there';ll be a new Nexus coming out in a few more months. the rumour is that there might be several Nexuses in fact, made by different manufacturers instead of just samsung
On June 19 2012 18:09 VenomBRA wrote: I'm ordering a new phone this week and can't decide for either the Galaxy Nexus or S3. My previous phone was a HTC Sensation, which got ICS eventually (with weeks of delay), so I'm afraid of getting the S3 and regretting all the bloatware from TouchWiz and lateness of future Android upgrades in the future.
Anyone here tried both?
I have some friends who own Galaxy Nexuses and are very happy with it. Yesterday I played with an S3 for half an hour and it seemed nice, but I found the interface strange (from being used to HTC Sense and "native" ICS from using emulators and such).
The hardware improvements do not seem to matter much, except for the camera which appear to perform considerably better on low light conditions. Larger battery and quad core processor do not seem to really matter as much as I first though, after reading some reviews yesterday. Price difference also does not really matter.
There are some problems with the Verizon's version of the Galaxy Nexus ranging from a difference in how the LED flash operates, which is a problem for some flashlight apps, and the fact its running like half a dozen generations of cellular radios, which is obviously problematic. LTE is kind of pointless anyway since you don't really need mega download speeds and LTE is still a huge battery drain for just about everything but the Razr Maxx. As far as I know, the GSM version is perfectly fine so try and get that model.
The benefit of the Galaxy Nexus is official software support from Google and the fact you'll nearly certainly get software updates first. People can say what they want but nothing can take that away. Not even Cyanogenmod and the developer community.
There is also a huge price difference (or at least there is in Australia). The Galaxy Nexus is around half the price of the Galaxy S3.
If you want to play a lot of games, the answer is obvious. That is the only real reason for spec increases these days let's be honest. For a phone-phone, specs are meaningless these days. Google has pulled their finger out of their asses so ICS is not a sluggish piece of shit like Gingerbread was. ICS updates tends to turn really shitty phones into quite competent machines. Even the ancient single core machines, like the Xperia Mini Pro (this is actually a really cool phone), run very smooth with proper ICS updates.
On June 19 2012 17:21 NeXiLe wrote: Anyone seen any reviews/comparisons of the NA version (1.5 dual core, 2gb ram?) I actually just found out that this version is different when I had been planning to get it for a while now >< Don't know how it compares to the quad core.
You should get it anyway. :D
I've heard that the 2 GB RAM is like a flagrant 2: both excessive and unnecessary. However, it's still a nice thing to have because it helps future-proof the phone as apps grow larger take up more memory (potentially).
The processor you shouldn't worry about being "worse". Yes, it benchmarks worse and generally does not perform as well as the exynos (quad-core) processor, but quad core phones are essentially a marketing gimmick because there is no way you'll be using 100% of every core--and even if you somehow are, you're going to rape your phone's battery. Unfortunately I don't have numbers on that, but more than 2 cores is truly excessive and unnecessary (more so than the RAM), though the exynos does perform better than krait (the dual core in the NA variant). It really shouldn't matter, and krait is also very efficient. The exynos has a really good gpu (mali-400) but honestly you shouldn't be playing hardcore 3D games etc, so the s4 krait should be more than enough.
Thanks for the detailed reply, the reason I asked is because the only thing I've seen comparing them is this
and the quad core seems way way wayyyyyyy smoother than the dual core but it's also not really a professional comparison, you can even see the dual core has a lot more stuff running on it as there's like 10 notifications up top. I guess I'll wait 'til release and play with one myself or look at reviews then ^^ So far though, I kind of still want it. The only part that I'm not a huge fan of is the shape and look of it. I prefer the looks of my nexus but my gf needs a phone so she can have this and I'll have the latest xD
@alffla: I dunno, I think you'll have to wait at least half a year for the next Nexus phone. The Nexus tablet is going to be announced at IO 2012 soon, but for a new Nexus phone to come out, it'll take a while regardless of what the next manufacturer will be. Interestingly enough the Galaxy Nexus is the least "google phone"-like Nexus to come out. It's samsung branded and I forget what exactly the issue with it was, but a lot of people were very unsatisfied with the degree of Samsung influence on it, but again I forget exactly what was so bad about it.
@Womwomwom: listen up all y'all that's a huge point about hardware he just made. Hardware has moved so ridiculously fast in terms of improvements etc. The only reason you really need a top-of-the-line SoC nowadays is for gaming.otherwise there is pretty much no reason to go spec hunting and drooling over good specs, ESPECIALLY with the ICS update.
With regard to gnex vs sgs3 though, sgs3 will have the latest ICS anyway so it doesn't really matter. Yes gnex should be getting updates first and yes it will be stock (which most people consider better than touchwiz and other such OEM custom versions of Android...though for sgs3 you get a lot of special features such as PiP, the eye scanning thing, S-beam, etc), but the point of CM and stuff is that you can get essentially the same version not long after gnex....though ok you'll have to do some work yourself. Honestly I think the sgs3 OS will be better because of said features, but CM 9 says they will combine the best features of different OEMs' versions and that could be greater incentive to value rooting and modification over just quick vanilla OS updates. Kind of slogged through with my language and worded that rather poorly, sorry if that didn't make sense.
@NeXiLe: yeah that's the spirit, you should always go try out phones in person. It seems like a no-brainer, but you'd be surprised by the number of people who make impulse buys or whatever especially with how good of a deal you can get online and whatnot. Though you might have intended to buy it from a brick-and-mortar store in the first place, in which case nvm but yeah be sure to try it out in person
But it won't get Jelly Bean as quickly as a Nexus device or whatever Google is calling Android 5. That's the thing. You actually get prompt updates from Google for further operating systems and Google generally has a vested interest in making the software as good as possible. And you can be fairly certain the updates will be relatively bug free and won't kill battery life, etc.
Android isn't like iOS where you basically get updates for your phone for its usable life. LG has basically abandoned their year old devices, Samsung has basically abandoned the Galaxy S, which isn't even really that old, and god knows what HTC and Motorola are doing. The quality of software support from non-Google phones is so bad that Sony is actually the most honest since they've just completed updating their whole 2011 lineup (minus Xperia Play, which they gave a reason for) to ICS.
Yes CM can fix it (no not really but at least you get the next Android version in some capacity) but why should you support a hardware manufacturer that pretty much treats you like shit and says "if you want updates or even half decent software, buy our new phone"? Doesn't make sense to me at all.
Edit: Shit like this is just embarrassing. No where near as bad as HTC's multitasking fuck up but its still pretty stupid. Seriously, why would you even do this? I have no idea, its like Samsung didn't get the memo that ICS eliminated this bullshit.
As for storage, Sprint's offering 16- and 32-gigabyte versions. We've got the 32GB version here, and Samsung has split the storage at 12GB as internal "phone storage" (for installing apps and whatever else you want), and another 12GB that's recognized as an internal SD card.
My math sucks but 12+12 = 24. That least 8GB in limbo...it definitely can't be all reserved for the OS can it?
On June 20 2012 13:09 Aerisky wrote: @alffla: I dunno, I think you'll have to wait at least half a year for the next Nexus phone. The Nexus tablet is going to be announced at IO 2012 soon, but for a new Nexus phone to come out, it'll take a while regardless of what the next manufacturer will be. Interestingly enough the Galaxy Nexus is the least "google phone"-like Nexus to come out. It's samsung branded and I forget what exactly the issue with it was, but a lot of people were very unsatisfied with the degree of Samsung influence on it, but again I forget exactly what was so bad about it.
There are some rumorsthat the next flagship Nexus phone will not be one but several devices, from different manufacturers.
On June 20 2012 18:13 Womwomwom wrote: But it won't get Jelly Bean as quickly as a Nexus device or whatever Google is calling Android 5. That's the thing. You actually get prompt updates from Google for further operating systems and Google generally has a vested interest in making the software as good as possible. And you can be fairly certain the updates will be relatively bug free and won't kill battery life, etc.
Android isn't like iOS where you basically get updates for your phone for its usable life. LG has basically abandoned their year old devices, Samsung has basically abandoned the Galaxy S, which isn't even really that old, and god knows what HTC and Motorola are doing. The quality of software support from non-Google phones is so bad that Sony is actually the most honest since they've just completed updating their whole 2011 lineup (minus Xperia Play, which they gave a reason for) to ICS.
Yes CM can fix it (no not really but at least you get the next Android version in some capacity) but why should you support a hardware manufacturer that pretty much treats you like shit and says "if you want updates or even half decent software, buy our new phone"? Doesn't make sense to me at all.
Edit: Shit like this is just embarrassing. No where near as bad as HTC's multitasking fuck up but its still pretty stupid. Seriously, why would you even do this? I have no idea, its like Samsung didn't get the memo that ICS eliminated this bullshit.
As for storage, Sprint's offering 16- and 32-gigabyte versions. We've got the 32GB version here, and Samsung has split the storage at 12GB as internal "phone storage" (for installing apps and whatever else you want), and another 12GB that's recognized as an internal SD card.
My math sucks but 12+12 = 24. That least 8GB in limbo...it definitely can't be all reserved for the OS can it?
Yeah, fair enough I guess. I'm aware of how Android updates are lol.
You don't necessarily have to go the CM route (though again, CM 9 potentially will offer the best of all of the worlds, i.e. much more customized experience, and you also can have the SGS3 features without bloat and whatnot. You also won't be limited to stock ICS (which is still great ofc), but obviously does not include the several--and they are there--features that OEM versions of Android have that will actually be useful. Also you can usually just get stock ICS or Jelly Bean etc on your device if you want it, because the dev community is so active anyway.
But all in all, yes of course Nexus phones will have the most efficient updates, goes without saying. But lot of people on gnex (for instance) go to AOKP and related anyway, so stock Android is by no means the most desirable iteration of Android for everybody, even though it may well be the way to go for the average user assuming he values getting regular updates/support more than whatever features OEM versions of Android can offer (and also assuming that average implies he or she doesn't want/know how to root).
@VenomBRA: your article is weird though. The WSJ article it cites uses a ton of weasel words.
"Google plans to give multiple mobile-device makers early access to new releases of Android and to sell those devices directly to consumers, said people familiar with the matter."
The plan also aims to assuage concerns of smartphone and tablet makers that build devices using Android, many of whom are wary of Google because of its pending acquisition of device-maker Motorola Mobility Holdings Inc., these people said.
A Google spokeswoman declined to comment.
There's almost nothing concrete about this, and while you're supposed to protect your sources or whatnot, the WSJ article and the wired article citing it were literally the only two I could find about the matter. I dunno though, you could be right.
@darkponcho: yeah it'll probably drop after a while like all phones do. Don't expect more than a $50-100 drop though lol. Usually it'll be cheaper to buy online (you can still get a contract on VZ etc).
"Google plans to give multiple mobile-device makers early access to new releases of Android and to sell those devices directly to consumers, said people familiar with the matter."
The plan also aims to assuage concerns of smartphone and tablet makers that build devices using Android, many of whom are wary of Google because of its pending acquisition of device-maker Motorola Mobility Holdings Inc., these people said.
There's almost nothing concrete about this, and while you're supposed to protect your sources or whatnot, the WSJ article and the wired article citing it were literally the only two I could find about the matter. I dunno though, you could be right.
Yeah, it's just a rumor now. But I thought it made a lot of sense, after Google's Motorola acquisition and how they're working quite closely with HTC and Samsung lately.
Then again, that's coming from this. From the speed its shown so far, i'm rather reluctant to actually install anything interesting on it. Might beat my desktop, lol.
When comparing the two S3 versions keep in mind, that the Samsung is way better in terms of releasing tech docs and drivers than Qualcomm (or even worse Nvidia in the OneX). So the development of custom roms is is likely to be way better and faster on the Exynos S3. So if you want CM9 or the jellybean when its released go for the Exynos one. These things are often not taken in to consideration and imo a good custom rom is far more important than 10% in a benchmark.
Just got my AT&T S3, pretty amazing so far, but I have a few questions regarding accessories as I'm brand new to smartphones.
What class of MicroSD is recommended for what will basically just be for music storage? Class 4 seems fine to me but that's a complete guess. And is there any particular type of MicroSD that the S3 is compatible with?
As for cases, I'm waiting for the Samsung flip cover to become less than $40 (which will happen eventually... right?).
Oh, and one more thing; is a screen cover recommended? Does it offer any benefits other than protection from scratches and such, like less smudging?
I really hope they've improved the battery life. I love my s2, but it's drained before the day is out usually, which is a pain in the ass. I feel like my friends with iphones don't have the battery problems that I do.
On June 23 2012 11:36 Soulfire wrote: Just got my AT&T S3, pretty amazing so far, but I have a few questions regarding accessories as I'm brand new to smartphones.
What class of MicroSD is recommended for what will basically just be for music storage? Class 4 seems fine to me but that's a complete guess. And is there any particular type of MicroSD that the S3 is compatible with?
As for cases, I'm waiting for the Samsung flip cover to become less than $40 (which will happen eventually... right?).
Oh, and one more thing; is a screen cover recommended? Does it offer any benefits other than protection from scratches and such, like less smudging?
Thanks in advance!
Wait what?! How did you get the phone on AT&T? I thought the shipping was delayed until June 28th.. I'm so jealous T_T
Has anybody used both Galaxy Note and Galaxy S3? How do they compare in terms of performance and useability? I personally don't mind big screens so I'm having to chosse between the two.
On June 23 2012 11:56 decafchicken wrote: Not sure if i should upgrade from my evo to a HTC OneX or galaxy s3. both seem to be pretty awesome.
Get the OneX or the Xperia S. Together with the S3 they are all about as good (on average, some are better at some things, others at other things), but the OneX and the S are way cheaper, so better value for money
I think the Galaxy Nexus is hands down the best value for money right now at around 350$. The design is awesome, it feels incredibly special due to the stock ICS, its guaranteed to get the Jelly Bean first, knows 85% of the S3 tricks and has basically the same screen. And I think very few ppl have it so it stands out.
On June 23 2012 11:36 Soulfire wrote: Just got my AT&T S3, pretty amazing so far, but I have a few questions regarding accessories as I'm brand new to smartphones.
What class of MicroSD is recommended for what will basically just be for music storage? Class 4 seems fine to me but that's a complete guess. And is there any particular type of MicroSD that the S3 is compatible with?
As for cases, I'm waiting for the Samsung flip cover to become less than $40 (which will happen eventually... right?).
Oh, and one more thing; is a screen cover recommended? Does it offer any benefits other than protection from scratches and such, like less smudging?
Thanks in advance!
AFAIK, class 4 is good enough. Getting the new sandisk extreme pro microsd thing for example, is should be absolutely useless because your phone doesn't even support speeds that fast; thus having an extremely fast microsd card will be wasted money. I think all microsd cards should work, and if you look on amazon there's a class 4 32 GB one I found that also mentioned that it was compatible with smartphones but I think they should all work.
A screen cover...eh hard to say. It's been mentioned before but SGS3 has gorilla glass 2, which is a very nice display glass and is very hard to break/scratch. It's very scratch resistant but only resistant, almost nothing is 100% all of the time scratch proof. Your call I guess. Personally I hate the feel of most screen protectors and they always get bubbles/tiny particles trapped between the protector and the display which grinds my gears, but for others it's worth it and they can get a better fit.
On June 23 2012 11:56 decafchicken wrote: Not sure if i should upgrade from my evo to a HTC OneX or galaxy s3. both seem to be pretty awesome.
Most of the people here will tell you to get SGS3~~ imo SGS3 is better. Some of the things OneX may have an advantage on are 1) display sharpness, 2) build quality, 3) appearance, or so I've heard.
The display on the One X is super LCD and doesn't have something called a pentile matrix, which is basically how the pixels are arranged. It's pretty difficult to tell with your naked eye but the display on the One X is significantly sharper and it becomes very obvious on a macro lens. Overall it's close though.
Build quality--I've read some bad things about SGS3 breaking easily if dropped, but it was a rather terrible drop test to be sure. HOWEVER, there also have been reports of the One X's shell scratching up kind of easily.
Finally, appearance is a subjective thing, but almost everyone prefers how the One X looks. SGS3 has sort of a cheap plasticky appearance because of the way it was built whereas the One X has a very solid, beautiful design. People have drawn comparisons between a lamborghini and a ford focus (and the ford focus comparison may even be a bit kind).
With regard to pricing, in the US they're pretty much the same both on contract and off, iirc o_o could be wrong though?
Otherwise, though, I prefer the SGS3 much more because almost everything else about it (camera; software features like picture-in-picture, the turning-off-display-when-you're-not-looking-at-it feature for lack of a better description, really really high speed transfer rates between it and other SGS3 devices because of something called S-beam; battery--which is also removable, pretty big deal because if your phone dies you can pop it out OR you can just have an extra battery; and I think it has a pretty good sound card as well; among other details), already preordered it and can't wait ^^
On June 23 2012 22:13 1tym wrote: Has anybody used both Galaxy Note and Galaxy S3? How do they compare in terms of performance and useability? I personally don't mind big screens so I'm having to chosse between the two.
If you're thinking about getting the galaxy note, the galaxy note 2 will be released this fall so that's the one you really should be comparing to SGS3 and the one you should be considering instead of the original note. As it is now, I'd say SGS3 is better lol, it has some crazy hardware and features.
And yeah urghhhh hope NA devs step it up or something because I'm forced to get the S4 variant of the SGS3 on verizon, hope there will be a lot of ROMs that support it T___T
On June 23 2012 22:44 disciple wrote: I think the Galaxy Nexus is hands the best value for money right now at around 350$. The design is awesome, it feels incredibly special due to the stock ICS, its guaranteed to get the Jelly Bean first, knows 85% of the S3 tricks and has basically the same screen. And I think very few ppl have it so it stands out.
I wouldn't say hands-down the best value but it's very easily arguably so. Off-contract maybe, but on-contract the phones' prices are a drop in the bucket compared to the contracts anyway.
You can get stock ICS on any of these newer phones with minimal effort, the delay in getting Jelly Bean won't be more than maybe a month or two at most, most of the S3 tricks (I just took the liberty of comparing them in general even though I think you mean software tricks) it knows are somewhat inferior:
android beam is much much slower than s beam
there's no pip
no fancy display-off depending on whether you're looking at the phone
significantly worse processor and memory (latter only if you're NA I imagine)
MUCH MUCH worse camera
build quality of SGS3 is very underrated, and it's heavy enough to be substantial yet light enough not to be a burden
samsung has made tons of improvements to the display even though it's still pentile
batt life on SGS3 tends to be better than gnex but not necessarily
the radio of the SGS3 has improved dramatically since gnex
and that's all I could come up with.
Here's an image comparison of the two phones' displays. They're under macro lenses and the superiority of one display isn't that clear, but overall the colors appear to be brighter, truer, and just more polished in general according to some reviews etc. Actually seeing it for him/herself, one might disagree though. + Show Spoiler [SGS3 vs Gnex] +
The camera of the Galaxy Nexus is really great, mega pixels are not everything. I have SGS2 but had a chance to play with the Nexus for a couple of days, I really cant say the quality of the photos the Nexus makes is any worse, actually I find the low light pics being better quality than the sgs2. and the sgs 3 sensor is the same as the one in the iphone, the software is better but imo the Nexus has the most camera you will ever need for the things you gonna take picture of with a phone.
On June 23 2012 22:44 disciple wrote: I think the Galaxy Nexus is hands down the best value for money right now at around 350$. The design is awesome, it feels incredibly special due to the stock ICS, its guaranteed to get the Jelly Bean first, knows 85% of the S3 tricks and has basically the same screen. And I think very few ppl have it so it stands out.
When I bought my Galaxy S2 back in February, the main competitor for it was the Galaxy Nexus. I was sorely tempted to go for the Nexus but in the end I chose the S2 because even though the Nexus will get the software updates first, etc etc, it had quite a few drawbacks as well. Being more expensive than the S2 as well as not having an external SD card slot are two of the drawbacks that immediately come to mind.
On June 23 2012 23:25 disciple wrote: The camera of the Galaxy Nexus is really great, mega pixels are not everything. I have SGS2 but had a chance to play with the Nexus for a couple of days, I really cant say the quality of the photos the Nexus makes is any worse, actually I find the low light pics being better quality than the sgs2. and the sgs 3 sensor is the same as the one in the iphone, the software is better but imo the Nexus has the most camera you will ever need for the things you gonna take picture of with a phone.
I'm not saying gnex has a horrible camera, nor am I saying that megapixels are everything. There's a 13 MP camera (think it was an xperia or an LG device?) whose camera really was quite horrible. The SGS3 is comparable to the 4s camera but imho it's better.
Dang it, there was a flickr album or some sort of gallery I saw months and months ago, comparing the S2, gnex, and 4s cameras. S2 and 4s were actually comparable but the gnex was significantly worse, especially macro and low-light. I can't believe I can't find the gallery though...sorry :/
I did post a pic a few pages back, 4s vs SGS3 camera pics:
But yeah, gnex camera is by no means bad at all. SGS3 just has an insane camera, and it can almost replace a point-and-shoot. Throw in some apps that allow HDR scratch that it's included with the stock app or something, and the pictures can turn out downright amazing. http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/33286/samsung-galaxy-s3-test/
Did they really improve the display beyond the density? I swear OLED on mobile phones is just a way for Samsung to recoup R&D costs and nothing else. Really there's only two real benefits for OLED: black depth and low sample-and-hold durations. There's just way too many issues with it such as frequent use of pentile, low peak luminescence, burn-in, blue subpixel weakness, wide gamut (you want sRGB for consumer devices), and the technology isn't easy to keep calibrated.
For a long time, I've looked at Samsung's OLED screens and swore the whites and greys were off compared to high end LCD screens like the iPhone 4 and HTC One X. Thankfully, Anandtech actually checks the displays for stuff beyond luminescence and black depth. If you look at the Samsung SG3's gamma graph, you can see that the curve is nuts and isn't remotely stable.
Its nice for a device like the Playstation Vita but for a smartphone, I'm not convinced.
I'm not sure what they did, but imo it got clearer though not enough to justify slapping a "plus" onto the name? Not sure though. But I agree, I think LCD display in devices such as One X is so much better than OLED as it is now. Off the top of my head though, OLED does have its advantages such as better viewing angles, better contrast, lower distortion, more vivid colors, and potentially extremely low response times (though as just very basic, generalized qualities though).
Blue subpixel degradation shouldn't be as much of an issue I think because nowadays people switch phones so quickly to get the next super popular device etc. Burn-in is a problem I suppose, though I don't think it has ever been a very big issue on Samsung's smartphones afaik.
But you know more about this than I obviously, I don't even understand the anandtech graph at all lol.
I've got my S3 for about a week now(got it last monday imported from europe) and it's a really really good phone! I was using the galaxy nexus before and the motorola atrix before that and it's way better than these two wich we're the best in their time imo. The screen looks better than the Gnexus especially the whites and the camera is world ahead... I even suprise myself loving touchwiz and I've never been a fan of UI of any kind I usually prefer pure android feeling, but this version of touchwiz is really well done and fluid (would be hard not to be on a quad core thought...)
If you're in America like me, I would suggest you to import the quad core version from europe as the US version is dual core, yes it does have 2gigs of ram, but really, it's useless.... LTE is nice but still....
On June 23 2012 11:36 Soulfire wrote: Just got my AT&T S3, pretty amazing so far, but I have a few questions regarding accessories as I'm brand new to smartphones.
What class of MicroSD is recommended for what will basically just be for music storage? Class 4 seems fine to me but that's a complete guess. And is there any particular type of MicroSD that the S3 is compatible with?
As for cases, I'm waiting for the Samsung flip cover to become less than $40 (which will happen eventually... right?).
Oh, and one more thing; is a screen cover recommended? Does it offer any benefits other than protection from scratches and such, like less smudging?
Thanks in advance!
Ya class 4 is best for phones from what I have seen and SanDisk is known for having best speeds at 32gb at least (I don't know about the new SanDisk Pro that Aerisky mentioned). As for a screen cover, do not decide until you have checked out the ZAGG invisible shields. Might be a little pricey but worth it imo (and has a lifetime warranty).
On June 23 2012 22:45 Aerisky wrote: You can get stock ICS on any of these newer phones with minimal effort, the delay in getting Jelly Bean won't be more than maybe a month or two at most, most of the S3 tricks (I just took the liberty of comparing them in general even though I think you mean software tricks) it knows are somewhat inferior:
Thats not true, afaik all the roms on the optimus 2x and other tegra 2 phones have no hardware acceleration in video de- and encoding and some graphic glitches in ics apps like chrome - this is a huge deal if you want to capture or play video. The reason is simply because Nvidia wont release their drivers. The Snapdragons are better in that regard, but still far away from other competitors.
I have heard many people talk about this Touchwiz thing. What are the major differences between it and stock Android? I'd imagine it would not be too hard to do something about though with rooting, custom ROMS and whatnot.
Noooo I wrote another long post but it all got deleted when I accidentally closed my browser T_T basically started out saying that scrolling up I realized my posts are filled with typos, grammatical errors, me repeating myself, etc lol...but this stuff is all very interesting to me so it's fun just to post ^^
On June 23 2012 22:45 Aerisky wrote: You can get stock ICS on any of these newer phones with minimal effort, the delay in getting Jelly Bean won't be more than maybe a month or two at most, most of the S3 tricks (I just took the liberty of comparing them in general even though I think you mean software tricks) it knows are somewhat inferior:
Thats not true, afaik all the roms on the optimus 2x and other tegra 2 phones have no hardware acceleration in video de- and encoding and some graphic glitches in ics apps like chrome - this is a huge deal if you want to capture or play video. The reason is simply because Nvidia wont release their drivers. The Snapdragons are better in that regard, but still far away from other competitors.
Ah yeah I've heard rumblings about this but disregarded them. Fair enough then D: fwiw, I think SGS3 specifically should get stock ICS running well and get jelly bean quickly barring some terrible incompatibility issues. Also very sad about NA potentially not getting the same level of support as the normal/international version but I had a verizon grandfathered unlimited data plan and decided to continue it, otherwise would have gotten an international version probably
@Fsk: ARM (the architecture on which essentially all mobile processors are built) have said themselves that quad-core is a marketing gimmick, I cannot stress this enough. There is almost no reason to need a quad core device because there's no way you're going to be using all four cores and most applications don't effectively utilize all of them anyway. If you somehow are using all four simultaneously at more or less full power, you're just going to kill your battery anyway.
@Moonsalt: it's not. But thank to that one compound which you can safely put all over a phone both internally and externally, we'll have phones that are essentially completely waterproof, really cool stuff.
@Mzh: the main differences are basically the themes and layouts. Touchwiz has proprietary applications and a custom skin/theme. Basically each of these custom versions (Motoblur for Motorola, Touchwiz, Sense for HTC) exist to help differentiate their devices and offer some exclusive apps/features. Generally speaking people detest these custom versions and prefer stock for reasons including: 1) they tend to have useless bloatware floating around, 2) sometimes are very ugly and unintuitive, 3) not that much customization, 4) can poorly impact your phone's performance, among others.
for those that have got the phone in the US, for whichever carrier, can you shed some light with some impressions on it?
i've been keeping an eye on this phone, and as my 2 year upgrade is coming up soon i've been heavily thinking about picking up the s3, kinda tired of my iphone4. not that i dislike my iphone, but not only does it feel like everyone and their mothers has one nowadays (literally every coworker has a goddamn iphone4/iphone4s), i've been meaning to make the switch into android for some time now.
only drawback i'm seeing for myself is that i'm on AT&T (iphone was only available on this garbage at the time), and i'm just curious about the speed differences/services differences between AT&T 4g/3g on the s3 versus the other carriers
tl;dr version: if anyone has the phone for at&t or any of the other carriers, thoughts so far?
On July 04 2012 11:44 kaisen wrote: at&t still hasn't announced the release date.
The only carrier that has S3 is Sprint.
i feel retarded, i just looked it up and its now set for july 6th lol
but yeah, if anyone has it for sprint so far, do tell
i'd concern myself between the difference of the quad-core int'l version vs the dual-core US version, but ultimately having to buy the phone full price for int'l version would be a bigger hit than i'm willing to take in terms of the difference provided between the 2 types.
I just got the blue one this morning. Didn't have much time to play with it yet, just downloaded/synched/logged in to all my apps and stuff. I will post later with my first impressions. So far so good, I'm impressed.
One question I could not find anywhere: On my previous Android devices, there was an option under the Development Settings to make the screen always stay awake when charging. Is this option gone from the S3? I could not find it anywhere in the Settings.
i got the htc one x on att and was thinking about switching to the s3 because i was within 30 days. i work for tmobile and had a chance to play with it a bit before making my decision. cant say im too impressed. the build feels crappy, the back is ugly (u can change the back cover though and it wil look nice), the screen was really nice but not as bright as the HOX, and one thing i didnt like was the fact that everytime i used it and started downloading apps or running multiple things, the phone became really warm really fast. in my experience devices that tend to get rlly warm tend to have some issues. so i decided to stick to the hox, since theyre pretty much identical anyways. eitherway, its a good phone,better than anything else out there right now thats for sure (xcept the one x
battery life is like any other smartphones; doesnt last long.. quad core is pretty overkill, so i chose to root it and underclock the performance to save battery life..
On July 06 2012 14:22 HeavenS wrote: i got the htc one x on att and was thinking about switching to the s3 because i was within 30 days. i work for tmobile and had a chance to play with it a bit before making my decision. cant say im too impressed. the build feels crappy, the back is ugly (u can change the back cover though and it wil look nice), the screen was really nice but not as bright as the HOX, and one thing i didnt like was the fact that everytime i used it and started downloading apps or running multiple things, the phone became really warm really fast. in my experience devices that tend to get rlly warm tend to have some issues. so i decided to stick to the hox, since theyre pretty much identical anyways. eitherway, its a good phone,better than anything else out there right now thats for sure (xcept the one x
I didn't get the HTC One X because it has 3G/4G LTE and WiFi signal transmission issues which means Internet doesn't work half the time. Apparently HTC smartphones are known for their poor antenna quality.
There are a number of articles and threads on this:
It took months before HTC admitted that some batches of the HTC One X suffer from poor antenna quality.
Antenna quality is a deal breaker for me. I use the Internet regularly on my smartphones, use Skype pretty often and always have to have signal for important phone calls. That's why I picked the Samsung Galaxy S III.
I also prefer the Super AMOLED HD screen compared to the HTC One X's LCD screen. I don't really care about pixel density since both are over 300ppi anyway and I just can't see a difference really. The colors are much more vibrant on the Samsung Galaxy S III thanks to the higher contrast of the Super AMOLED HD screen.
The build quality is really subjective. While I thought the HTC One X's build quality was really nice, I didn't feel particularly that it was any better than the SGS III. I prefer to have a neutral, glossy back cover at the end of the day, because matte finishes like on the HTC One X get old and boring after a while.
Having a One X and a SGS3 at the moment... I prefer the One X >.> The S3 sure is nice but I'm not a fan of their customization and I prefer the design and feel of the One X.
The S3 is awesome but it just looks and feels too cheap. I don't understand why most Android phones have to be so ugly. And especially that logo on the FRONT. It's Galaxy Nexus all the way for me, it may have slightly inferior specs but it's the only Android phone that actually looks good (with a back cover on ) while being very capable at the same time.
The One X with antenna quality problem is the one with Tegra 3. You won't get that problem with any version that uses Qualcomm S4 SoCs, which I imagine will used by every phone offered by AT&T and Verizon.
The One X is killed by HTC Sense and the multitasking "bug". You can root it but everything should work fine out of the box, out of principle.
On July 06 2012 16:30 Womwomwom wrote: The One X with antenna quality problem is the one with Tegra 3. You won't get that problem with any version that uses Qualcomm S4 SoCs, which I imagine will used by every phone offered by AT&T and Verizon.
The One X is killed by HTC Sense and the multitasking "bug". You can root it but everything should work fine out of the box, out of principle.
Seeing how the majority of the HTC One Xs sold worldwide are the Tegra 3 versions, I think this is a huge problem.
In this situation, it wouldn't trouble him. He's on AT&T.
Edit: Its like going nuts because the Verizon Galaxy Nexus has trash reception. If you get the GSM version, then you don't suffer from any of the reception problems.
But yes, I agree ditch the One X for the SG3. Sense gimps Android 4.0 bad so...
Don't want to bump this but this may be relevant news to some of you guys.
Recently the Verizon variant of this device was declared to have a locked (signed) bootloader. There was also the big deal over Samsung releasing a so-called "developer edition" (not locked, 32 GB, $600) which you would have to buy from Samsung directly.
There have, however, been rumors that there is a software fix in the works which I hope very much is the case. Because most of my tech news I get from following sites on twitter+twitter is blocked in China+I'm lazy, I didn't follow a lot of tech news initially and missed a lot of the shitstorm that apparently went down around this. For now I'm just popping onto sites occasionally to check, and did come across this bit of news a few days ago and thought it would be interesting.
Hope the bootloader is unlocked because Jelly Bean seems fantastic and I think CM10 is going to be very nice.
EDIT: Just kidding, it's not gonna happen. Source.
Decrypting the bootloader is essentially impossible because it's 128-bit encryption or higher, I think. Also, there are unique keys for every phone to boot, I think (pun actually unintended).
On August 05 2012 02:31 cHaNg-sTa wrote: Anyone have an idea of what is a good case? I don't wanna add bulk and I want something that provides a better grip.
I have an S2, and I purchased a case exactly like this for my phone. And I can say it's fucking awesome. It's like the otterbox in reverse. A gel-cover fits the inside, and a hard outer shell protects the phone from a drop of any distance.
EDITMy only gripe would be that if you're wearing jeans with tighter pockets, it's sometimes difficult to remove from the pocket without the whole inside coming out. Otherwise, that's a solid case for sub $25.00
I can't wait until my contract is up and I can purchase this phone. It will be a nice upgrade from my sgs1. Any good roms out for it yet?such as cyanogen, etc?.
I can't wait to get rid of my crappy Iphone 4 and pick this baby up! The OLED screen just has such a good contrast ratio and the screen size is to die for.
Cyanogen is currently undergoing development and there already are experimental releases for CM10 which are based on JellyBean. However one of the big features of JellyBean, project butter, will not be able to be ported until Samsung release an update of their own which contains it, from which Cyanogen can port it themselves. Aside from that major feature keep in mind the rom is still very much experimental and is not recommended for daily use.
CM10 and JB aside, there are already several ROMs released on xda forums but these are all based on ICS. I believe CM9 (based on ICS) is also available and although I don't think they released any stable versions yet, their release candidates are considered very stable and are viable for daily use.
Edit for the post just above: unless you have your mind set on Android and the sgs3, I would recommend you wait for the announcement of the iPhone 5 which is rumoured to happen mid September. I've heard some intriguing rumours about it.
On August 05 2012 18:21 Firebolt145 wrote: unless you have your mind set on Android and the sgs3, I would recommend you wait for the announcement of the iPhone 5 which is rumoured to happen mid September. I've heard some intriguing rumours about it.
It's still gonna be an Apple product. Ease of use, intuitive, but massively restrictive for the average geek. You'll still have to use itunes (ewwww) and you'll still be stuck with paid apps that are free on the android market. Not to mention the inflated price to cover for Apple's billion dollar marketing campaigns, which probably account for half of the retail price lol. If you know anything about computers and don't use apple products at home, it makes no sense whatsoever to buy an iphone. Pretty sure the s3 will still outperform the iphone 5, and by the time the iphone is released, there will be androids coming out that'll run circles around it in benchmarks. Sorry apple fans, but besides for the soccer mom market, the iphone isn't top dog anymore. All the apple brainwashing and branding to convince clueless buyers that their product is the only option, the only "cool" phone and that it has unique features (lol NOT) will not work for much longer.
On August 05 2012 18:21 Firebolt145 wrote: unless you have your mind set on Android and the sgs3, I would recommend you wait for the announcement of the iPhone 5 which is rumoured to happen mid September. I've heard some intriguing rumours about it.
It's still gonna be an Apple product. Ease of use, intuitive, but massively restrictive for the average geek. You'll still have to use itunes (ewwww) and you'll still be stuck with paid apps that are free on the android market. Not to mention the inflated price to cover for Apple's billion dollar marketing campaigns, which probably account for half of the retail price lol. If you know anything about computers and don't use apple products at home, it makes no sense whatsoever to buy an iphone. Pretty sure the s3 will still outperform the iphone 5, and by the time the iphone is released, there will be androids coming out that'll run circles around it in benchmarks. Sorry apple fans, but besides for the soccer mom market, the iphone isn't top dog anymore. All the apple brainwashing and branding to convince clueless buyers that their product is the only option, the only "cool" phone and that it has unique features (lol NOT) will not work for much longer.
How do you know he's a massive geek that wants an Android? I've not heard anything from him that leads me to believe either side of the story. I personally would never get myself an iPhone, but to give a proper unbiased suggestion it would be ridiculous not to consider them as a major player. You have no idea what the iPhone 5 will be like and you're already saying Androids will stomp it to the ground immediately. That is huge Android fanboyism right there. Apple has common sense and will almost certainly know they have to upgrade many aspects of their phone to continuing competing with Android (yay free market) and any smart man would bet on them heavily upgrading their next release. If they don't, then no regrets, and you can go out and buy an S3. It's only a month wait.
One thing you haven't considered is that if he's bought all his apps on the iTunes store thus far, he'll have to rebuy all of them if he moves to Android. Not all paid iTunes apps are free on Android, the only one that comes to my mind is Angry Birds.
every1 in this thread who is recommending the iphone 5 is only doing it so they can justify to themselves the massive over-inflated prices they paid for their iphones.
Samsung is the only way to go if the quality and features of the phone come first before being a hipster or caring about what other people think about you
On August 05 2012 19:51 Manimal_pro wrote: every1 in this thread who is recommending the iphone 5 is only doing it so they can justify to themselves the massive over-inflated prices they paid for their iphones.
Samsung is the only way to go if the quality and features of the phone come first before being a hipster or caring about what other people think about you
I'm the only one that has mentioned the iPhone 5 and I didn't even recommend it, I recommended waiting for it. I don't and never have owned an iphone, I currently have a Samsung galaxy s2 and love it to bits.
You shouldn't really blindly recommend a phone over another when the specs haven't even been released for it.
On August 05 2012 18:21 Firebolt145 wrote: unless you have your mind set on Android and the sgs3, I would recommend you wait for the announcement of the iPhone 5 which is rumoured to happen mid September. I've heard some intriguing rumours about it.
It's still gonna be an Apple product. Ease of use, intuitive, but massively restrictive for the average geek. You'll still have to use itunes (ewwww) and you'll still be stuck with paid apps that are free on the android market. Not to mention the inflated price to cover for Apple's billion dollar marketing campaigns, which probably account for half of the retail price lol. If you know anything about computers and don't use apple products at home, it makes no sense whatsoever to buy an iphone. Pretty sure the s3 will still outperform the iphone 5, and by the time the iphone is released, there will be androids coming out that'll run circles around it in benchmarks. Sorry apple fans, but besides for the soccer mom market, the iphone isn't top dog anymore. All the apple brainwashing and branding to convince clueless buyers that their product is the only option, the only "cool" phone and that it has unique features (lol NOT) will not work for much longer.
Has anyone ever told you that you are slightly biased?
Please let's not turn this into an iPhone vs. Android thread.
HAVING SAID THAT...
I was using a BB for the past 2 years (company paid for bill.. hard to say no) but I couldn't take it anymore and got me and S3. I know everyone hates iTunes with a passion, but I actually like it >_> I use it with all my computers and actually really liked the UI on my iTouch (and was easy to just sync with my computer). I've been trying several different players and still not sure what to go with. I'd prefer something closer to iTunes UI to be honest. Any suggestions? I've tried.. (keep in mind I've only used the trial versions)
Google Music The main thing I liked about the interface compared to others was the fact that I can immediately "fast scroll" through my playlist without first scroll for the bar on the right to appear. I know it seems so minuscule but I really enjoyed that on my iTouch. I don't like how clicking on an artist pops down the albums instead of opening a new screen for the albums. Maybe I'm just too used to iTunes. Settings are pretty limited from what I can tell, but the main thing I would have changed would be the album pop outs (and also to only load from my SD card since it showing my ringtones on as "Unknown" on my playlist is pretty annoying.
PowerAmp I REALLY like how it auto plays when I plug it into my aux cable in my car. I don't know if other players can do that, but I definitely drive around a lot, and something small like this actually makes me pretty happy haha. The UI is pretty spiffy, but sometimes it's hard to navigate easily from the "Now Playing" part. Something to get used to, I like iTunes on my iTouch just showing on the bottom very concrete "Artists" "Albums" etc. Also, the art on the "now playing" section is a bit intruding on the UI. Can barely see the shuffle and repeat options when it's a bright album art.
PlayerPro I liked this player quite a bit as well. It gave an iTouch feel for a bit with it showing "Artist" "Playlist" "Songs" tabs (etc) at the top. I would prefer them to be at the bottom, but it gives a very nice organized feel to it. Unfortunately, it goes away once you select an album. I also like how it loads the artist pictures from its search engine. Though I don't like how it gives me some very ugly last.fm red avatars on some of my artists. Sticks out like a sore thumb. And once again, I don't like how the albums pop down when I click on an artist (hopefully can edit, haven't figured it out from settings).
Winamp Pretty simple UI. Though I feel it's a bit too simple at points. I don't like how I have to tape the album art for the "Repeat" and "shuffle" options to pull up. And there doesn't seem to be a fast way to get to "now playing" song.
I know I'm being picky, but just trying to get the best player to use!
Summary on what I like Poweramp's autoplay on plug in = HUGE plus Google Music's automatic fast scroll PlayerPro's tabbed options (though would like for it to remain until I pick a song)
Thanks for anyone that even bothered to read through this >_>
Take a look at Apollo. It's relatively new and is still under heavy development but I love it's simplistic yet powerful style. I have heard it shares some similarities with Google Play (which I have not tried, so no personal comments).
Ok, here it goes. I have some general knowledge about modern smartphones, but have never owned or used one so please bear with me.
I need a phone that
- has good battery life (according to some reviews I read, the S3 is pretty good in this respect) - has gps (check!) - can do tethering (I guess all modern smartphones can do that?) - offers my choice of mail client (how is ICS in this respect? Are there any roms already available?) - does not die on me the first time I drop it (willing to buy a case/cover/whatever for it, though) - has good reception (the area I live is has low signal strenght, and the thick walls of the house don't help) - I can somehow hook up to my FritzBox(a WifiRouter/DSL modem that supports some standard for IP phones), as I have unlimited calls to landlines there - is 'quick'. I don't want to wait at all for apps to load, or to wait 3 minutes while it boots
I don't care that much about gaming on it, or the lens. I have 1k US$ to blow on a smartphone.
My main problems with my S3 now that I've used it a lot (please let me know if you know of any fixes): * Battery life. S3 is a beast, my iPhone 4 held out FAR longer than my S3. If I go to bed and wake up in the morning, I'm down to like 10% battery... even though I haven't used it and it has just been lying around in sleep mode. I have NO idea where it spends all the energy, but it's annoying as hell having to charge it at least once a day. * Wifi keeps dying. What I mean by this is that if I'm connected to a wifi and my phone goes into an extended sleepmode, or I'm away from the wifi, my phone somehow fucks up the wifi. It says "scanning" in the wifi menu, but it doesn't find anything, just shows my "remembered" wifi connections. I have to turn off wifi, then turn it back on, and BOOM, works perfectly again. This is CONSTANT, I have to do this shit several times a day. * Not really an S3 issue, but why the hell is video quality on video sites so much worse in apps than online? The twitch app is amazing, but the default quality of 226 is HORRIBLE and on tons of streams, you can't pick a better quality... while if I go to twitch.tv in the browser (on the phone that is) and check the same stream, it looks FAAAAR better. Same with low settings on youtube movies. Is there something broke with my phone, or are just android apps crap at showing flash video?
On August 05 2012 19:51 Manimal_pro wrote: every1 in this thread who is recommending the iphone 5 is only doing it so they can justify to themselves the massive over-inflated prices they paid for their iphones.
Samsung is the only way to go if the quality and features of the phone come first before being a hipster or caring about what other people think about you
Samsung doesn't sync with iCloud, iPhones do. That's the only reason I need to stick with iPhone.
That and the fact that I find the S3 way too big for a cell phone.
1) Your battery should NOT be dwindling down that quickly at all (I usually lose 10% of my battery overnight). Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809. You can buy the app on Google Play if you wish to support to the author or download it free from that thread. Follow the instructions on that thread and post a log of the results, they will help guide you to what is eating your battery. It will probably be a stray app or something that isn't behaving the way it should. 2) The WiFi problem sounds a little weird. Try going into service mode (dial *#0011#), menu -> wifi -> disable power save mode, let me know if this helps. 3) Twitch.tv android app is notorious for being kinda shit tbh.
On August 14 2012 21:40 Tobberoth wrote: My main problems with my S3 now that I've used it a lot (please let me know if you know of any fixes): * Battery life. S3 is a beast, my iPhone 4 held out FAR longer than my S3. If I go to bed and wake up in the morning, I'm down to like 10% battery... even though I haven't used it and it has just been lying around in sleep mode. I have NO idea where it spends all the energy, but it's annoying as hell having to charge it at least once a day. * Wifi keeps dying. What I mean by this is that if I'm connected to a wifi and my phone goes into an extended sleepmode, or I'm away from the wifi, my phone somehow fucks up the wifi. It says "scanning" in the wifi menu, but it doesn't find anything, just shows my "remembered" wifi connections. I have to turn off wifi, then turn it back on, and BOOM, works perfectly again. This is CONSTANT, I have to do this shit several times a day. * Not really an S3 issue, but why the hell is video quality on video sites so much worse in apps than online? The twitch app is amazing, but the default quality of 226 is HORRIBLE and on tons of streams, you can't pick a better quality... while if I go to twitch.tv in the browser (on the phone that is) and check the same stream, it looks FAAAAR better. Same with low settings on youtube movies. Is there something broke with my phone, or are just android apps crap at showing flash video?
Other than those issues, I love this darn phone.
you have a wakelock from some crappy app constantly using all your battery..
Hey guys I'm looking for a case for my S3 to only increase the grip on it, so I want the case to be as thin as possible. I'm not concerned about protection from drops and such. As far as I know the Incipio Feather seems to suit my needs ( http://www.amazon.com/Incipio-Feather-Samsung-Iridescent-SA-300/dp/tech-data/B008CHKVZC ) but I'm wondering if there's anything else out thinner, either thinner or comparable.
On August 14 2012 23:24 TheKK wrote: Hey guys I'm looking for a case for my S3 to only increase the grip on it, so I want the case to be as thin as possible. I'm not concerned about protection from drops and such. As far as I know the Incipio Feather seems to suit my needs ( http://www.amazon.com/Incipio-Feather-Samsung-Iridescent-SA-300/dp/tech-data/B008CHKVZC ) but I'm wondering if there's anything else out thinner, either thinner or comparable.
The thing you need to be worried about most is dropping it. Does that thing actually offer any protection for a drop?
S3 has the best battery life I've ever experienced out of any smartphone, ever....
My Razer wouldn't last even a full single day. My Galaxy S3 after extensive use maybe uses a third of the entire battery after listening to Pandora all day. I don't have to charge it on a daily basis, it's a crazy weird feeling.
On August 14 2012 23:35 FabledIntegral wrote: S3 has the best battery life I've ever experienced out of any smartphone, ever....
My Razer wouldn't last even a full single day. My Galaxy S3 after extensive use maybe uses a third of the entire battery after listening to Pandora all day. I don't have to charge it on a daily basis, it's a crazy weird feeling.
How is this possible. My S3 has pretty bad batterylife. I barely use it (only during my breaks and lunch time, 1 hour of usage surfing reddit or tl) and by the time im off work it drains at least 40%. Is something wrong with my phone?
On August 14 2012 23:35 FabledIntegral wrote: S3 has the best battery life I've ever experienced out of any smartphone, ever....
My Razer wouldn't last even a full single day. My Galaxy S3 after extensive use maybe uses a third of the entire battery after listening to Pandora all day. I don't have to charge it on a daily basis, it's a crazy weird feeling.
How is this possible. My S3 has pretty bad batterylife. I barely use it (only during my breaks and lunch time, 1 hour of usage surfing reddit or tl) and by the time im off work it drains at least 40%. Is something wrong with my phone?
Smartphones traditionally have horrendous battery lives compared to phones of old. While old phones could last for days on a single charge, most smart phones can barely last a day without needing a top up. What you are reporting is amazing battery life for a smartphone, assuming you work about 8 hours or so.
On August 14 2012 23:33 nttea wrote: Wait wtf :D How much does samsung pay for people making advertisement posts on popular forums?
The Galaxy S3 is THE phone right now and is ranking #1 on several top 10 phone lists on the internet right now for a reason. Whether that changes when the iPhone 5 is announced/released remains to be seen.
On August 14 2012 23:24 TheKK wrote: Hey guys I'm looking for a case for my S3 to only increase the grip on it, so I want the case to be as thin as possible. I'm not concerned about protection from drops and such. As far as I know the Incipio Feather seems to suit my needs ( http://www.amazon.com/Incipio-Feather-Samsung-Iridescent-SA-300/dp/tech-data/B008CHKVZC ) but I'm wondering if there's anything else out thinner, either thinner or comparable.
The thing you need to be worried about most is dropping it. Does that thing actually offer any protection for a drop?
As I've said in my post, I'm not concerned about protection. You may think it's foolish but I have my reasons.
The biggest factor in draining the battery is usually the display. Using a skin for your reddit reader that has white text on black background, this will greatly increase your battery life. Reducing the brightness helps too. Still 40% seems a lot, but I dont own a S3.
On August 14 2012 23:35 FabledIntegral wrote: S3 has the best battery life I've ever experienced out of any smartphone, ever....
My Razer wouldn't last even a full single day. My Galaxy S3 after extensive use maybe uses a third of the entire battery after listening to Pandora all day. I don't have to charge it on a daily basis, it's a crazy weird feeling.
How is this possible. My S3 has pretty bad batterylife. I barely use it (only during my breaks and lunch time, 1 hour of usage surfing reddit or tl) and by the time im off work it drains at least 40%. Is something wrong with my phone?
That would blow... mine's fairly new, but after using Pandora for like 5 hours at work in an 8 hour workday, I will have over half my battery remaining. If I don't use it really at all during work, I'll probably have 80%+ remaining afterwards.
I don't change my wifi settings or 4g vs 3g settings or anything of that sort at all during the day, ever.
On August 14 2012 23:33 nttea wrote: Wait wtf :D How much does samsung pay for people making advertisement posts on popular forums?
Are you honestly surprised that people are saying great things about the phone in a thread dedicated to the phone?
I would expect a lot of glowing reviews in an iPhone thread if there was indeed one.
i was referring to the OP actually and i was just thinking maybe this is something samsung actually does, remembering some dude getting banned for posting pretty much exclusively about samsung stuff Not saying there's anything wrong with claiming a product to be great if you think it is.
Question for people who have this phone. My Contract is up 1/26/13. So I can upgrade around that time. Do you think the S3 will still be the best phone out there or is there another phone on the horizon that can give it a run for it's money. I have the Galaxy Nexus right now. I don't NEED to replace my phone and I like the nexus but due to something verizon did when I had some billing/plan changes I ended up getting my normal 2 yr contact set to a year instead. So I can renew for a phone discount come 1/26/13 like i said.
We cannot see into the future. I can confidently tell you that the S3 will certainly be in the top 5 phones by January but cannot tell you whether it will still be the best, especially with phones like the iPhone 5 coming out soon. Ask us again closer to the date.
On August 15 2012 12:26 Xinder wrote: Question for people who have this phone. My Contract is up 1/26/13. So I can upgrade around that time. Do you think the S3 will still be the best phone out there or is there another phone on the horizon that can give it a run for it's money. I have the Galaxy Nexus right now. I don't NEED to replace my phone and I like the nexus but due to something verizon did when I had some billing/plan changes I ended up getting my normal 2 yr contact set to a year instead. So I can renew for a phone discount come 1/26/13 like i said.
Galaxy Note 2 will be an option as will the iPhone 5 by that time. At the moment SGS3 is far and away the best phone, and by 1/26 I don't think any major competitors with the exception of those two phones will really emerge. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Of course, nobody knows what the iP5 will look like, but the Note 2 (also a samsung product) is a really big phone, something like 5.3" for the original Note and will likely have very nice specs.
My SGS3 is fantastic, but my power button tends to stick and wake-up/shut down the display in semi-rapid succession on occasion, which is my only major complaint. So far it has been bearable though and otherwise everything is fantastic. I'm not sure exactly where to take it since I bought it online, so I'll just have to suck it up I guess.
I'm rooted already and with kexec I'm able to flash roms. However, I'm waiting for a stable release of CM10 for the verizon sgs3 before I do anything in terms of roms. Overall fantastic device and pretty nice battery life even on 4G. If you download an app called "phone info" from the play store, it's also possible to turn off 4G and use 3G. On 3G you're also able to place calls and browse the internet at the same time lol, pretty good. Other than that....oh there's also the annoying wifi notification, which may be turned off by getting a SQLite editor (e.g. SQLite editor on the play store lol), and setting the wifi notification to 0 by going through settings. If anyone would like to know exactly how to do it, I can just link you the articles ^^
I'm rooted already and with kexec I'm able to flash roms. However, I'm waiting for a stable release of CM10 for the verizon sgs3 before I do anything in terms of roms. Overall fantastic device and pretty nice battery life even on 4G. If you download an app called "phone info" from the play store, it's also possible to turn off 4G and use 3G. On 3G you're also able to place calls and browse the internet at the same time lol, pretty good. Other than that....oh there's also the annoying wifi notification, which may be turned off by getting a SQLite editor (e.g. SQLite editor on the play store lol), and setting the wifi notification to 0 by going through settings. If anyone would like to know exactly how to do it, I can just link you the articles ^^
.. so NOW with this new phone you actually have to download an application if you want to switch from 3G and 4G...? Errr
I'm rooted already and with kexec I'm able to flash roms. However, I'm waiting for a stable release of CM10 for the verizon sgs3 before I do anything in terms of roms. Overall fantastic device and pretty nice battery life even on 4G. If you download an app called "phone info" from the play store, it's also possible to turn off 4G and use 3G. On 3G you're also able to place calls and browse the internet at the same time lol, pretty good. Other than that....oh there's also the annoying wifi notification, which may be turned off by getting a SQLite editor (e.g. SQLite editor on the play store lol), and setting the wifi notification to 0 by going through settings. If anyone would like to know exactly how to do it, I can just link you the articles ^^
.. so NOW with this new phone you actually have to download an application if you want to switch from 3G and 4G...? Errr
Yeah it's actually quite embarrassing haha. With verizon, you can't just go into settings/wireless&networks or whatever it is to switch to 4G unfortunately. On the bright side the app is free, very small, and simple to use, but yeah.
Also this problem is limited to VERIZON alone, so on the bright side, unless they're your provider, there should be no problem. The only reason I'm with them anyway is that I have a grandfathered unlimited plan So using 4G actually doesn't really matter for me anyway other than the fact that it drains my battery more quickly.
I'm rooted already and with kexec I'm able to flash roms. However, I'm waiting for a stable release of CM10 for the verizon sgs3 before I do anything in terms of roms. Overall fantastic device and pretty nice battery life even on 4G. If you download an app called "phone info" from the play store, it's also possible to turn off 4G and use 3G. On 3G you're also able to place calls and browse the internet at the same time lol, pretty good. Other than that....oh there's also the annoying wifi notification, which may be turned off by getting a SQLite editor (e.g. SQLite editor on the play store lol), and setting the wifi notification to 0 by going through settings. If anyone would like to know exactly how to do it, I can just link you the articles ^^
.. so NOW with this new phone you actually have to download an application if you want to switch from 3G and 4G...? Errr
4G/LTE and 3G are not the same technology. The (Verizon) S3 will use 4G by default if it's available. For people in weak or non existent 4G areas they may wish to turn off 4G capability to conserve battery life. It'd be nice if preferred network came with the phone, but it doesn't. I don't have any major complaint about a FREE app that does it, though.
On August 05 2012 19:51 Manimal_pro wrote: every1 in this thread who is recommending the iphone 5 is only doing it so they can justify to themselves the massive over-inflated prices they paid for their iphones.
Samsung is the only way to go if the quality and features of the phone come first before being a hipster or caring about what other people think about you
Samsung doesn't sync with iCloud, iPhones do. That's the only reason I need to stick with iPhone.
That's the evil empire right there. Restricting access to iCloud so you're forced to use the iPhone? If Apple didn't care so much about controlling their customers, they would open the iCloud to Android phones through an app.
I got my Galaxy S2 around this time a year ago. I'm considering getting a Galaxy Note 2, whenever that comes out. Would it be worth replacing my S2 for it?
On August 15 2012 13:21 GTR wrote: I got my Galaxy S2 around this time a year ago. I'm considering getting a Galaxy Note 2, whenever that comes out. Would it be worth replacing my S2 for it?
What are you looking to do, how tight of a budget are you on, and what carrier?
The Note 2 will be fantastic for sure, of course. However the first thing that might be off putting is how freaking big it is though--so be warned...it's a lot bigger than your S2.
On August 15 2012 12:58 -niL wrote: I just got my S3 a week ago, does anyone else's heat up pretty easily when you are doing intensive stuff like watching streams?
Yeah, it's normal. No worries there; it's to be expected >.<
There's no heat vent or cooling system or anything, and with the kind of speeds we're hitting now, your phone is bound to get hot.
On August 15 2012 13:21 GTR wrote: I got my Galaxy S2 around this time a year ago. I'm considering getting a Galaxy Note 2, whenever that comes out. Would it be worth replacing my S2 for it?
When people ask whether it's worth replacing their S2 for anything, I almost automatically say no. The S2 is still an amazing phone in its own right and none of the newer current phones have any super new features that the S2 doesn't have.
That said, if you're aiming for the Note 2, you probably have a special reason for wanting such a large screen, in which case it's worth it. If on the other hand you're simply getting the Note 2 for the hardware improvements, then no it's not worth it.
Well, I don't really have the money to blow on the Note 2. Also, I'm pretty content with my S2 so far, and while I would love to have a bigger screen, I'm not going to die if I don't have it.
Maybe when the Note 3 comes out in 2014 I'll consider getting something new.
Yeah that's fine. You might have to replace your battery mid 2013ish depending on much use you put it through, but if you don't want to game or anything like that, then the S2 is an extremely solid device.
Honestly the improvements (quad core, blahblahblah ARM A15, etc) are there for marketing purposes or for gaming. The kind of power that new devices offer will just rape the battery. Hardware is advancing much more quickly than is software. There's the big.LITTLE idea which may or may not work, but in a nutshell the S2 should be sufficient unless you want to game. With PCs there's image processing and CAD and stuff but you're not going to be doing much of that on a mobile phone. I just upgraded because my little droid x was on the verge of dying.
Looks really neat, but a few of my co-workers has had some problems with it, but that may be due to pre-ordered copies/first batch were bad. For example, in a telephone call, the reciever couldn't hear the caller, etc... but that's prolly some rare manufacture problem.
My battery life is pretty solid overall. There must be something running in the background that has been draining the battery for you guys. The biggest drain on the battery is the display. If you have 100% display on all day, then you're most likely going to see much shorter battery life. Plus 100% brightness is absurdly bright too. I have mine at 25-50% max indoors and occasionally bump it up when I'm outside during the day.
I absolutely love the S3. At first, the size was a bit overwhelming, but now that I got used to it, an iPhone screen looks ridiculously small. I can't imagine using anything with a screen less than 4.3" now. The Note 2 is supposed to have a 5.3" screen. Honestly, that sounds freakin awesome haha. Most people that have a Note have told me that they got used to the size and actually really enjoy the phone/tablet form of it. I guess Samsung is testing just how far they can go before it's just too big.
My sister just got the s3 today for 580 cash. I myself got an xperia pro for 2 year contract no data etc. From what I see the phone is just like any other the phone. The interface is abit neater, comes with android icecream 4.0 preinstalled (mine had gingerbread 2.3, can upgrade but some bugs I think). Definetly has a larger screen prob better cam/speakers etc. It felt really weird cuase it was such a big phone but it was ..too thin. No idea how to put that in your pocket >_>. Not sure my sis blowing almost 600 compared to me for almost a just as good phone at 30 is worth it with the same plan and such
On August 20 2012 09:01 Leeoku wrote: My sister just got the s3 today for 580 cash. I myself got an xperia pro for 2 year contract no data etc. From what I see the phone is just like any other the phone. The interface is abit neater, comes with android icecream 4.0 preinstalled (mine had gingerbread 2.3, can upgrade but some bugs I think). Definetly has a larger screen prob better cam/speakers etc. It felt really weird cuase it was such a big phone but it was ..too thin. No idea how to put that in your pocket >_>. Not sure my sis blowing almost 600 compared to me for almost a just as good phone at 30 is worth it with the same plan and such
Well it's 600 because she bought it with no plan. Is there a particular reason she did that?
She should probably get a case for it then; I thought it was a bit too thin too. I mean I got used to it eventually but it's still safer to get a case. The display shatters surprisingly easily despite having Gorilla Glass 2. I got an incipio dual shine pro case (that the name iirc <_<) and it's pretty nice
I think the note is probably as big as it gets lol, any bigger and you really are going into tablet territory (a lot of popular tablets are at 7 inches :X).
Aerisky noticed in your previous post you said you rooted and install roms with kexec? Is that better than CWR? I've used clockwork since g1 and thats what I am using now. I've read of some new recoveries but not sure how good they are (1 is supposed to use touch screen and be pretty sick overall, but I forgot the name). Also, as far as ROMs from xda, I've used AOKP which i loved to death but had to drop because I like the S- programs and motion features samsung comes with (im sure there is a way to flash them manually though which is what i might do later). Now I am on Free GS3 because it includes those features and it's working great as well; 0 issues with either so far on T-mo. If you never tried AOKP you should certainly check it out, its a good alternative to CM Roms. And most ROMs that are out atm seem stable enough to be a large improvement over stock.
Also for those that root their phones and have not done so yet, I strongly recommend trying different LCD Density settings over default 320 (I use 270 atm, also be careful about going below 241 because then ICS might think you are using a tablet). You can do it manually by changing the setting in build.prop, or use tools like Rom Toolkit Lite. Lets you put all that real estate to more use. You might have an issue with market not showing all apps as compatible, but there is an easy fix for that as well.
On August 20 2012 09:01 Leeoku wrote: My sister just got the s3 today for 580 cash. I myself got an xperia pro for 2 year contract no data etc. From what I see the phone is just like any other the phone. The interface is abit neater, comes with android icecream 4.0 preinstalled (mine had gingerbread 2.3, can upgrade but some bugs I think). Definetly has a larger screen prob better cam/speakers etc. It felt really weird cuase it was such a big phone but it was ..too thin. No idea how to put that in your pocket >_>. Not sure my sis blowing almost 600 compared to me for almost a just as good phone at 30 is worth it with the same plan and such
When you buy a phone with contract vs. no contract, there's obviously going to be a big price discrepancy. I have seen deals where the S3 goes for 100-150. So that imo is worth getting over the xperia
On August 20 2012 09:32 iokke wrote: Aerisky noticed in your previous post you said you rooted and install roms with kexec? Is that better than CWR? I've used clockwork since g1 and thats what I am using now. I've read of some new recoveries but not sure how good they are (1 is supposed to use touch screen and be pretty sick overall, but I forgot the name). Also, as far as ROMs from xda, I've used AOKP which i loved to death but had to drop because I like the S- programs and motion features samsung comes with (im sure there is a way to flash them manually though which is what i might do later). Now I am on Free GS3 because it includes those features and it's working great as well; 0 issues with either so far on T-mo. If you never tried AOKP you should certainly check it out, its a good alternative to CM Roms. And most ROMs that are out atm seem stable enough to be a large improvement over stock.
Also for those that root their phones and have not done so yet, I strongly recommend trying different LCD Density settings over default 320 (I use 270 atm, also be careful about going below 241 because then ICS might think you are using a tablet). You can do it manually by changing the setting in build.prop, or use tools like Rom Toolkit Lite. Lets you put all that real estate to more use. You might have an issue with market not showing all apps as compatible, but there is an easy fix for that as well.
I think they're approximately as good.... no wait, kexec was basically an exploit, I think. CWR is significantly better so stick with that. With kexec you have to boot your phone a second time in order to get into the ROM. But haha I actually haven't flashed anything on my gs3 yet :X
I'm waiting for CM10 or AOPK when it adopts Jelly Bean before I try that. If I recall correctly, the CM guys said that they would be including features from the gs3 in cyanogenmod, so I'm looking forward to that if it's true. Basically I'm too lazy to reorganize everything after reflashing, so I'm waiting until a stable version CM10 for the vzw gs3 comes out
Right now the default LCD density setting is fine for me, but I might lower it just a tad. I have pretty bad eyes anyway so having all the letters as big as they are is alright for now >.< cool stuff though :D
Sweet I'm glad I wont be compelled to switch to kexec:D I rooted and flashed a ROM within an hour of getting the phone cause i hate the t-mobile bloatware:D My wife's wasn't rooted and I think it is a big improvement but there's nothing wrong with waiting till CM10. Getting titanium back up & backing up your launcher settings can make switching Roms painless if you're concerned about restoring your setup
Ohhh right, I was wondering how you were able to root. I forgot the vzw version was essentially the only dopey one ;__;
And ah you're right actually haha. I'm too used to my Droid X and how i was unable to restore everything for a while. I'll wait until CM10 anyway, but yeah it's very easy to switch indeed~
CM10 is available already, I believe they've even started nighties already for the s3. At this point the only feature it really misses out on from jelly bean is project butter, which will need to wait until Samsung releases an official rom with it (or a leak, of course).
Yeah 90% of the reason for my wanting Jelly Bean is just for project butter lol :S
Also, AOKP's first JB build going to come out tonight most likely as soon as they get the build bot to work keke http://aokp.co/index.php/releases/_/jellybean-build-1-r28 a lot of people will vouch for this ROM, it has some fantastic support and features
By the way, my mum just got an S3 and I'm wondering if there is anyway to remove some of the power toggles in the notification bar to prevent mishaps from happening. I'm avoiding anything that breaks the warranty since it's my mum's phone and I'm not around for most of the year to help her, else I'd happily flash another ROM that is more customisable to do so.
Project Butter is awesome. I don't have a GS3 but got a Nexus S. I compiled AOSP myself and flashed it on the phone and gotta tell you guys...Project Butter is AWESOME...even on the Nexus S which is single core 512MB Ram.
I want project butter really badly but Samsung and firmware updates is...well, their track record is definitely not the best on that one. Compound it with the fact that Verizon is an abnormally greedy pig and an update could be a long time coming. Probably will have to flash a ROM, but I've heard that unless Samsung releases a build for SGS3, devs can't just apply it to the phone on their own so we have to wait until that happens anyway.
I'm fairly optimistic that Samsung will release a Jelly Bean build though since the SGS3 is pretty big, but my phone is a verizon variant so. Hoping the devs can get this to work :<
just got the s2 upgrade from my old samsung moment (couldnt really justify the extra cost for the s3 since i am poor) and if s3 is anywhere like s2 i have to say i was mightily impressed, everything about it is just awesome- fast response time on screen, big big screen, good resolution and the internet is so much better with 4g compared to my old 3g phone- gonna be a samsung smartphone user for life i think.
I really fucking hope the US/Verizon version gets it too...it's probably going significantly slower because, after all, the hardware is slightly different, with the S4 processor and Adreno 225 and all....I can't wait though T___T please come to the VZW version or I will be a very sad panda.
I work for a cellphone repair company... A quick heads' up if you're thinking of purchasing:
I don't think I've ever seen a phone as fragile as this one, definitely quite a bit more breakable than an iPhone 4 when it comes to the screen, and really, the only phone that will break easier than it is probably the Galaxy Nexus. Repairing that phone is also super expensive, do get a nice case, save yourself the trouble.
On August 24 2012 17:33 Zalithian wrote: CM10 and AOKP will have stable jelly bean well before Verizon does.
The issue here is that the verizon variant of the s3, like all NA variant has a dual core s4 processor that is distinct from the international version. However I just realized that the T-Mobile version appears to be the same as all the other versions....but I've seen roms released.with att and T-Mobile labels specifically so I'm wary about whether I will be able to flash a rom whose drivers were ripped from a variant of a different carrier. Since verizon is cdma, for one, data may not work unless there is a verizon release. I'm no expert so I'm not completely sure, but I have a feeling that cm10 or aokp may not have a version compatible with the verizon variant, even though I now realize that the hardware at least is mostly the same.
Looks like Samsung is about to take it in the ass. Apple has won its patent infringement suit. We'll see what relief Apple gets, but Apple did request that the Court prohibit Samsung from selling its most popular phones in the US.
EDIT: Basically, if you want an S3, you may want to go get one now before they're pulled from market.
I'm really worried, basically pinch to zoom and tap to zoom are supposedly patents being infringed...this is absolutely terrible.
There literally could be OTA updates that DOWNgrade the OS if Apple somehow manages to get that motion through. Ridiculous stuff, and it is my personal opinion that it's flagrantly terrible for competition. There's a multitude of possible endings, but we don't know what the damages are yet and it could get really ugly.
There will probably be a pile of appeals and counterappeals though lol.
On August 25 2012 07:55 xDaunt wrote: Looks like Samsung is about to take it in the ass. Apple has won its patent infringement suit. We'll see what relief Apple gets, but Apple did request that the Court prohibit Samsung from selling its most popular phones in the US.
EDIT: Basically, if you want an S3, you may want to go get one now before they're pulled from market.
The case has nothing to do with the S3 and the ITC are investigating whether to disallow bans based on patent infringement. Keep buying your S3s as normal.
On August 25 2012 08:36 Aerisky wrote: I'm really worried, basically pinch to zoom and tap to zoom are supposedly patents being infringed...this is absolutely terrible.
There literally could be OTA updates that DOWNgrade the OS if Apple somehow manages to get that motion through. Ridiculous stuff, and it is my personal opinion that it's flagrantly terrible for competition. There's a multitude of possible endings, but we don't know what the damages are yet and it could get really ugly.
There will probably be a pile of appeals and counterappeals though lol.
Worrying, but really patent trials by jury, thats a bit special... Seems in this case it's a sly way to bring in protectionism. Okay kids, vote who do you like Americas lovely #1 company or the evil South Koreans stealing our rectangles?
The interface design copyings obviously gone on to an extent but the prior art demonstrations looked incredibly convincing to me and should have had a lot more of those patents scrubbed if the law functioned as its supposed to. The 3G counter claim was an obvious one that was somehow got thrown out which is really strange. Terrifying if patent law is now a poplarity contest. Anyone know if the appeals will be jury based too?
On August 25 2012 08:36 Aerisky wrote: I'm really worried, basically pinch to zoom and tap to zoom are supposedly patents being infringed...this is absolutely terrible.
There literally could be OTA updates that DOWNgrade the OS if Apple somehow manages to get that motion through. Ridiculous stuff, and it is my personal opinion that it's flagrantly terrible for competition. There's a multitude of possible endings, but we don't know what the damages are yet and it could get really ugly.
There will probably be a pile of appeals and counterappeals though lol.
Worrying, but really patent trials by jury, thats a bit special... Seems in this case it's a sly way to bring in protectionism. Okay kids, vote who do you like Americas lovely #1 company or the evil South Koreans stealing our rectangles?
The interface design copyings obviously gone on to an extent but the prior art demonstrations looked incredibly convincing to me and should have had a lot more of those patents scrubbed if the law functioned as its supposed to. The 3G counter claim was an obvious one that was somehow got thrown out which is really strange. Terrifying if patent law is now a poplarity contest. Anyone know if the appeals will be jury based too?
Not sure, but Apple was awarded $1.05 billion and Samsung was awarded no damages in their countersuit. I'm not that knowledgeable in the legal and/or patent system so I'm just following the goings-on the best I can. Apple hasn't taken everything home but it's a pretty big day for them.
Also is it okay for discussion to go on here? I'm not sure whether this is worthy of another thread or a bump to an existing one, but this doesn't have all that much to do with the S3.
EDIT: This sums it up quite nicely. Ouch. Hilariously enough though, the iPhone in the picture is third generation, not iPhone 4 -_- labeled wrong. But yeah. :|
I agree with a lot of the infringements but a lot should never been allowed to be patented in the first place. Phone shape was infringed? The US patent system is a mess.
On August 25 2012 09:30 ALang wrote: I agree with a lot of the infringements but a lot should never been allowed to be patented in the first place. Phone shape was infringed? The US patent system is a mess.
That's how apple does business. Patents things that aren't even their invention or some borderline retarded things like "shapes".
Patent trial by jury, that, after hearing evidence for 16 months decides a 700 question questionnaire in 2 days? Ya, this is going to the appeals court pretty fast.
I never really understood why patent trials arent decided by panels of professors of technology or something like that.
affinity_12 got his ass banned for essentially borderline-advertising. I always thought there was a possibility that he was just that big of a samsung fanboy though.
The problem here is that apple and anti-apple (or android) fanboys tend to reduce each others' arguments down to a rather silly straw man; that or they make increasingly ridiculous accusations until nobody is happy (or right).
I honestly don't think that Apple will be able to force Android to downgrade and literally take away features, however. If that somehow does happen, Google better step up to the plate and start throwing some of its weight around. If such a thing were to happen, I really think the public would begin to question Apple as a company. As it is now, they're doing their best to make money as a company, and that means pursuing patent infringements against competitors who are catching up and surpassing them in multiple areas.
On August 25 2012 09:39 Sub40APM wrote: Patent trial by jury, that, after hearing evidence for 16 months decides a 700 question questionnaire in 2 days? Ya, this is going to the appeals court pretty fast.
I never really understood why patent trials aren't decided by panels of professors of technology or something like that.
It'll probably wind up in front of the supreme court and that will be final decision (probably not in Apples favor if rest of world cases are believed)
Wait, didn't Apple lose their case about the desktop design vs. Microsoft way back in the day?
I feel like the jury ruled in Apple's favor purely because it was US vs. Korea, whereas Apple v Microsoft was intra-US.
I think its a terrible (biased) decision and opens up a huge can of worms about the "feel" of something being patented/ copyrighted. A lot of clothing, films, cars, etc. tend to follow general fashion trends but I don't see people suing each other for those.
I own an iPhone 4 and its nice, I guess though it's caused me more trouble than its worth. I would have gotten a HTC of some sort if my dad hadn't persuaded me otherwise.
On August 25 2012 09:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Now watch as Apple goes after the Tablets.
That only kind of worked with Samsung's Galaxy Tab devices, which basically looked like a Samsung iPad together with the thin dock connector. I believe the dock connector is even the same, just the pins are wired differently. You're not going to get Apple suing the Nexus 7 to death because they're not remotely alike in terms of hardware and aesthetics. Just like how Sony probably isn't going to get sued over hardware design because Sony is pretty good at designing distinct rectangles.
I'm not surprised Apple is so aggressive and that Apple won. You have to be blind to not see how similar the early Galaxy devices were to the early iPhones, especially in UI design. Obviously the jury didn't have trouble seeing the overall similarity.
Fender and Gibson had quite a hard time during the early 70s and 80s with German and Japanese manufacturers copying their design and selling it for cheaper. For people who couldn't afford, say, a Gibson, you could go and buy a German or Japanese guitar that looked exactly the same and look cool in the process. It probably sounded a little bit worse but that doesn't matter because its still a very playable guitar.
I believe Fender took so long to sue companies over the now ubiquitous Stratocaster design (a very attractive and ergonomic design...you could say that its an obvious design) that it was basically thrown out of court because it became so ubiquitous. So its not unsurprising that Apple is suing quickly and early.
I do know of this and universal search is comparatively minor compared to pinch/tap-to-zoom because it completely removes a fundamental smartphone feature. The universal search removal is already pretty infuriating, but I've never used it and I think some of the stuff Apple is going after now will really go public if nearing success. Of course that remains to be seen.
Also yeah, the article states that Apple was unsuccessful with regard to the tablets.
Then go make a licencing deal if they're really worried about it. It worked for Microsoft. Anyway, Apple doesn't have a patient on pinch to zoom so to speak, they have a patient on a specific application of it.
The reason Samsung got targeted is because they were, by far, the easiest target. Apple might throw words out there but they've never bothered targeting, say, Palm's WebOS because there really isn't enough to sue over and not really any point doing so.
I'm not a huge fan of The Verge but they very correctly pointed out that to see how Samsung dug itself into the position it is in today, you have to see the overall picture and not just focus on individual patients.
*If you want to argue that this suffocates innovation, I don't see how Samsung is innovating anything besides OLED. Any decent application of anything comes from Google as far as I am concerned.
Ok I get it, but why wasn't he banned for that post. Why did he get banned for an opinion post instead? The way this site works is such a mystery to me.
Ok I get it, but why wasn't he banned for that post. Why did he get banned for an opinion post instead? The way this site works is such a mystery to me.
He got banned for that post but the ban reason was for his posting history. He was given a chance to change his ways and well...he didn't. His first post back was more of the same useless corporate Korean cheerleading trash.
Ok I get it, but why wasn't he banned for that post. Why did he get banned for an opinion post instead? The way this site works is such a mystery to me.
He got banned for that post but the ban reason was for his posting history. He was given a chance to change his ways and well...he didn't. His first post back was more of the same useless corporate Korean cheerleading trash.
Basically that. Sort of like how you would look at a repeat offender differently from a first-time offender kind of thing, in other words.
I'm actually flashing CM10 and it made me bootloop...so yeah...be careful if you don't want a $600 brick on you hands. You can hold volume up, home button, then power button to go into recovery mode if you have clockwork recovery. That saved me from having to sbf and whatnot ;___;
However I managed to flash it and let me tell you, you are really unleashing the full potential and awesomeness of the phone when you do so. Touchwiz isn't bad per se, but stock is just BEAUTIFUL (just my personal opinion) and amazing. Cheers :D
On August 25 2012 09:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Now watch as Apple goes after the Tablets.
That only kind of worked with Samsung's Galaxy Tab devices, which basically looked like a Samsung iPad together with the thin dock connector. I believe the dock connector is even the same, just the pins are wired differently. You're not going to get Apple suing the Nexus 7 to death because they're not remotely alike in terms of hardware and aesthetics. Just like how Sony probably isn't going to get sued over hardware design because Sony is pretty good at designing distinct rectangles.
I'm not surprised Apple is so aggressive and that Apple won. You have to be blind to not see how similar the early Galaxy devices were to the early iPhones, especially in UI design. Obviously the jury didn't have trouble seeing the overall similarity.
Fender and Gibson had quite a hard time during the early 70s and 80s with German and Japanese manufacturers copying their design and selling it for cheaper. For people who couldn't afford, say, a Gibson, you could go and buy a German or Japanese guitar that looked exactly the same and look cool in the process. It probably sounded a little bit worse but that doesn't matter because its still a very playable guitar.
I believe Fender took so long to sue companies over the now ubiquitous Stratocaster design (a very attractive and ergonomic design...you could say that its an obvious design) that it was basically thrown out of court because it became so ubiquitous. So its not unsurprising that Apple is suing quickly and early.
you never know.. next apple will patent the rights to eat apples around the world..
Rooting is like giving yourself administrator rights on your phone. What Aerisky is describing is similar to installing a different OS on your phone.
Both break your warranty. Rooting is less 'risky/scary' to do as there is almost 0 risk of bricking your phone. Flashing a new ROM does indeed involve some risk but as long as you follow the instructions carefully you should be fine.
It's actually volume UP, home button, then power button to boot into recovery. Sorry about that.
There are some thinks such as flickering but hot dayum CM10 and Jelly Bean are AMAZING. I'm also on leankernel v0.7. If you want to flash CM10, be warned that the 8/25 and 8/24 nightlies are bad and you want to go with either 8/22 or 8/23 (which are exactly the same). You truly aren't experiencing Android as it was meant to be experience imo unless you're on CM10 or AOKP.
And yeah basically what firebolt says. Rooting gives you "root" (root of the phone sort of idea) or administrator rights, and flashing a ROM is installing basically a new OS. It's not purely aesthetic which is why you should be careful if something goes awry (if it's not compatible with your hardware etc. and you "brick" your phone meaning you turn it into nothing more than a brick or paperweight lol).
After you root, however, a locked or signed bootloader can prevent you from booting up another ROM because you have to go through it before you can boot up your phone (derp ). The verizon variant was locked before. However, if you want to flash ROMs it is now easily possible because the bootloader has been unlocked, and there is a simple app called EZ unlocker or something. You don't have to worry about a bootloader if you're on any other variant though.
Won't get too in depth because there are tech forums and/or tech support for that kind of stuff, but yeah this is fantastic :3
Aerisky waaaay too much jargon there for the group your advice seems to be targeting
krndandaman, I'll try to explain. Google is the developer of Android, they design it and release it. This is called 'stock' android, which is the barebone experience that Google designed it to have. They release this stock version to all the smartphone manufacturers, who then take it and alter it their own way. This is why a basic out-of-the-box HTC smartphone looks different to a Samsung smartphone, which looks different to a Sony Ericsson smartphone, etc. Not only do they look different, but the manufacturers tend to also throw in a bunch of their own software which aren't always useful.
There are many online developers which take these ROMs and further customise/alter them. The ROM Aerisky is talking about is called CyanogenMod, which is a famous ROM for being as close to the stock Google experience as possible while adding additional useful features such as allowing themes. They are also porting the next version of Android to phones before the manufacturers have released official versions.
To make the roll of developers clearer, let's imagine different versions of android = different versions of windows, and that the new Metro from windows 8 is amazing and everyone wants it.
- All computers are on windows 7 - Microsoft releases windows 8 to computer manufacturers so the manufacturers can alter it for their computer - CM team says 'screw you, I'm not waiting' and ports it themselves so consumers can immediately upgrade, enjoy Metro right away and avoid the long wait that manufacturers will inevitably take
In this case, the latest version of Android is called Jelly Bean. Samsung is currently working on releasing it by the end of September. CM have had it out for the last month or so.
Yeah the sign of noob (relatively speaking) is not being able to explain everything clearly and concisely. To be honest I'm not too knowledeable and don't understand everything that well--I just know the fundamentals.
Basically what firebolt said again. :D
The greatness about the ROM in a nutshell is that Jelly Bean (the update of the OS on which CyanogenMod is based) is actually a fantastic OS update (unlike Win8 potshot ;o), and it's superior to Ice Cream Sandwich (the code name for the current latest version that you see on the S3).
What's so great about Jelly Bean? You could google Jelly Bean features, but it essentially looks better, performs more smoothly, and includes a variety of tune-ups and applications (one of them is "Google Now" you can look that up too, pretty sweet). There's also something called Project Butter which helps make performance even better and everything really smooth--buttery smooth. However we have to wait for Samsung to release their own version of Jelly Bean because they have to mess with the connection between the hardware and software, which only Samsung engineers can realistically do in a short amount of time.
The essential difference between ROMs is that they can look fundamentally different, perform differently, have different features and the screen is laid out differently.
Oh also, Touchwiz is Samsung's custom version of the OS. Each manufacturer (HTC, Motorola, Samsung, LG, etc) has their own take on each OS update, in order to better differentiate their brand. Not only the phone itself but the OS and aesthetics of the OS are different because Samsung wants to put their own style on it and whatnot. Hope that helped
Are you planning on getting a smartphone or upgrading to an S3? It's really pretty damn slick. :3
If you want a huge phone the Galaxy Note 2 is coming out (not bad, should be a decent upgrade from the Note). Also the iPhone 5 is going to be announced soon and you might be interested in that. In my humble opinion you should probably wait a bit. If you wait, the price of the phone will drop, and the ROMs we're talking about will get more stable in case you do decide to root and mess around with it.
Yeah, Go Launcher is pretty slick. My personal fave is Apex it's up to personal taste--they're all pretty great.
A cool thing about Android is that you don't have to root to get almost any app for free (extremely easily too). Not that I support pirating everything, and of course if you like an app, buy it to support the developer(!!), but...yeah.
And yup, you don't necessarily need to root to be able to do lots of customization :>
On August 27 2012 15:29 Firebolt145 wrote: Go Launcher is more of a Gingerbread based launcher, which is 'so last year' for me. But yes, I did use it for about a year or two
Now I also use Apex Launcher, which is based upon the new Icecream/Jelly bean layout.
You should actually jelly bean, project butter ftw I've got a nexus one running jellybean, it's actually pretty darn sweet, google around and you can probably find a jellybean ROM for your device, nexus one JB is here.
We're on the Galaxy S3, and yes there are JB roms available already, but no they do not have project butter, because we have to wait for Samsung to release drivers. Project Butter uses your GPU to help you draw everything and make it smoother (VSync and triple buffering). Without the drivers from Samsung, we won't be able to use Project Butter, afaik.
Which begs the question: why is the Nexus One able to take advantage of it but dev teams have to wait for a release from Samsung with proper drivers for the S3 to be able to implement project butter? I don't know the answer to that lol, maybe we don't actually have to wait for a release from Samsung? No idea but I'm quite sure AOKP and CM10 do not yet have Project Butter :S
I mean, what are we waiting for exactly? Samsung to release a JB OTA so developers can look at how they implement Project Butter, if I'm interpreting this correctly. But what about the Nexus One, which came out in January of 2010--HTC has never released anything in terms of JB for the N1. Were its essential drivers picked apart, and if so, why can't the same happen for the S3? The GNex is on an OMAP chip (so PowerVR GPU), while the N1 has a qualcomm processor and adreno 200 iirc. The NA variant of the S3 has a qualcomm cpu and processor while the international version has an exynos chip with a Mali-400 GPU. What allows the Nexus One to get JB but not S3 is what I'm confused about :<
Edit: yeah I can't find one either, but there are xda forum posts where people say that it is more responsive and snappy in response to people asking whether project butter works. I just took his word for it on that one :X
Just out of curiosity, who's going to follow the revealing of the Note 2 tomorrow live? I find it a little strange that the Note hasn't got it's own thread in here, but I guess only a few people here have it.
On August 26 2012 06:23 Aerisky wrote: Also be careful when you're applying updates.
I'm actually flashing CM10 and it made me bootloop...so yeah...be careful if you don't want a $600 brick on you hands. You can hold volume down, home button, then power button to go into recovery mode if you have clockwork recovery. That saved me from having to sbf and whatnot ;___;
However I managed to flash it and let me tell you, you are really unleashing the full potential and awesomeness of the phone when you do so. Touchwiz isn't bad per se, but stock is just BEAUTIFUL (just my personal opinion) and amazing. Cheers :D
is that rooting it? sorry im a noob lol. what are the differences from the regular unmodified phone?
installing a custom ROM =/= rooting There are situations where you can install a custom ROM without rooting a device (if the bootloader comes unlocked) Most of the time you have to root a device to install a ROM, and it's not too much trouble on most devices. There are tutorials out there that can show you how to do it if you don't know already. It's a very painless and risk-free process, the only way you're going to mess something up is by flashing a corrupt image, or having the battery die in the middle of some steps of the process. Basically, if you have it plugged into power and you check the md5 hash of your downloads then you can always restore.
The XDA Developers forum has everything android mod related, and lots of really great entry level content to help you get started modding your devices. If you're looking for Cyanogenmod exclusively, the forums over at cyanogenmod.com might be what you're looking for.
A few days after buying the galaxy note, it stopped receiving texts. It gets pictures but not just simple messages. This a pretty common thing or what?
All texts or group texts? As far as I know, if you have someone with an iPhone sending group texts (through MMS), Android phones won't receive the message as a text. They'll receive the message as a email or something.
On September 01 2012 14:42 Womwomwom wrote: All texts or group texts? As far as I know, if you have someone with an iPhone sending group texts (through MMS), Android phones won't receive the message as a text. They'll receive the message as a email or something.
All texts, doesn't matter what phone they are using. Had it updated and a new sim card added today. Sales rep was clueless and told me to send it in for a refurbished. I would rather explore more options first.
I remember reading on a Chinese site that samsung trying to differentate the note 2 by giving it sharp edges but also not too sharp or it will resemble the sharp design... not too sure if that was legit but yea, kinda sad that the patent lawsuit case is affecting product designs
It probably won't happen in the near future but I hope Apple will crash and burn. Sure, I've had an iPhone since the 3G and have had two iPads. They're nice products, but iOS hasn't changed since it was released apart from small updates here and there and features already on Android. And this is just ridiculous. There is no doubt that Samsung had at some point been a little too inspired by others, but this is just getting ridiculous and there's no point in inventing the wheel twice, that would suck for innovation and technological development.
It might just be the frustration of all these lawsuits, but to me, Apple has done its part in the modern world, made smartphones and digital music part of our every day lives, but they've been stuck for a while, especially with their handheld operating system. iOS works but, to me, it feels incredibly heavy when you're maneuvering it compared to ICS and especially JB.
I'm looking forward to October to get rid of my iPhone in exchange for a Note 2.
On September 01 2012 14:42 Womwomwom wrote: All texts or group texts? As far as I know, if you have someone with an iPhone sending group texts (through MMS), Android phones won't receive the message as a text. They'll receive the message as a email or something.
All texts, doesn't matter what phone they are using. Had it updated and a new sim card added today. Sales rep was clueless and told me to send it in for a refurbished. I would rather explore more options first.
I work at the service department of a big electronics store, and it seems there's some issues with the S3 which nobody really has any clue about what could be at this point. If it's a big problem for you, I'd probably get it refurbished just to get it out of the way, but there's no telling whether or not your next S3 will have the same problem or something else entirely. My guess is that most of the phones we get back have are due to software errors of different kinds, so someone proficient in tweaking with these phones could probably find a way around it somehow. Still sucks though.
If i change my current smartphone to the S3, will my whatsapp group chats automatically transfer over to the new phone? Or do I need to be reinvited to the group chat? What about message history? They are gone right?
On September 02 2012 01:26 Qweasdzxc wrote: If i change my current smartphone to the S3, will my whatsapp group chats automatically transfer over to the new phone? Or do I need to be reinvited to the group chat? What about message history? They are gone right?
As long as you're on the same phone number it will all get restored from your old phone, at least if your old phone was an Android. I'm not 100% sure if old messages get transferred if your old phone was an iPhone, but group messages will definitely still work.
On September 07 2012 11:15 Cheeseburgered wrote: Haven't been following lately but does anyone know when the sgs3 is getting a 4.1 update? Other people have it and I'm jelly
On September 01 2012 14:39 Irave wrote: A few days after buying the galaxy note, it stopped receiving texts. It gets pictures but not just simple messages. This a pretty common thing or what?
sounds like a carrier problem to me and not the phone itself
Hey so this is literally my first smartphone ever to own. I must say that it is quite nice to have the internet in the palm of your hands. Now I don't ever have to be bored when at a bar or in an awkward social environment. However I am so new to this and have much to learn.
I was wondering if you guys can help me out on the battery life. I have surfed a bit number of posts here and the web. I was wondering if there is anything more that I can do to extend the duration of the battery instead of having it to charge it everyday :/. I have turned off the gps/wifi etc... and turned down the display. Anything else that I can do that I am not aware of?
Also any helpful tips (apps recommendation, consider rootkit? etc...) for a noob who just got into this? I like to consider myself an average geek who just happened to neglect this field a lot since I never thought I would own one thus had the mentality of "it wont affect me why should i care."
If you are going to use your smart phone a reasonable amount at all, it will inevitably need charging every night at the very least (I charge mine every afternoon at work as well but that's because I'm a heavy user). That's the curse of a smartphone with a big screen.
That said if you strongly suspect battery drain happening somewhere (strong hint being more than 10% lost overnight when you're not touching it) you can get an app called betterbattery stats. You can find it legally free on xda forums (Google it up) or give the author a donation and purchase the app on Google Play. The app will monitor everything that wakes your phone up and will save logs. You can post these logs on xda forums allowing a trained eye to scan them and let you know if something on your phone is misbehaving.
There are other basic ways to try and prolong battery life but most of them are obvious, like keeping the brightness at a minimum, turning off wifi/gps when you aren't using them, or even turning off 3G (2G uses a lot less juice than 3G).
Other basic app recommendations are SwiftKey (AMAZING keyboard, it alone has converted many friends and parents from iPhone to Android), and maybe the Opera mobile browser (the text reflow is the best I've ever seen). Lastly whatsapp is another great app that is basically a cross mobile platform instant messenger that uses Internet data instead of standard texting services.
On September 10 2012 23:57 Nizaris wrote: Switkey is super mega awesome. i rarely type full words anymore.
I've been a long time Swype user and tried out SwiftKey. It is indeed an incredibly keyboard, the layout is just so and the corrections and predictions are awesome.
Unfortunately I use a lot of Chinese and SwiftKey lacks support for it, plus Swyping is rather fun though sometimes hilariously mistaken.
ive used it for a week now and its great. unfortunetly i feel it is a bit too sensitiv to the touches but then again it is a touch screen so just something to get used to. i only wish there was a way to lock down buttons and play music on same time otherwise it might touch the screen if its in your pocket or so other then that its perfect!!!
On September 12 2012 21:43 KapsyL wrote: ive used it for a week now and its great. unfortunetly i feel it is a bit too sensitiv to the touches but then again it is a touch screen so just something to get used to. i only wish there was a way to lock down buttons and play music on same time otherwise it might touch the screen if its in your pocket or so other then that its perfect!!!
huh? If you click on the side button, it locks the screen out but keeps playing the music and goes through your album. So now do you consider it your perfect phone? My only concern is that my hand is kinda fat so whenever i hold the phone to the side(short side of the phone) my fat kinda hits the touch key so I'll keep going back or turning on the menu when I don't mean to.
off topic: Soo...I am looking at the spec of the new iPhone5s...what do you guys think of the claims Apple making saying it is going to be the best phone out on the market... Don't wanna turn this into an underground Apple hate thread...but seriously...they are no difference minus some very small hardware (the software is inferior to the android imo). What do you guys think? imo: I love this phone and I don't think it will get 1up-ed until Samsung releases their next product.
On September 12 2012 21:43 KapsyL wrote: ive used it for a week now and its great. unfortunetly i feel it is a bit too sensitiv to the touches but then again it is a touch screen so just something to get used to. i only wish there was a way to lock down buttons and play music on same time otherwise it might touch the screen if its in your pocket or so other then that its perfect!!!
huh? If you click on the side button, it locks the screen out but keeps playing the music and goes through your album. So now do you consider it your perfect phone? My only concern is that my hand is kinda fat so whenever i hold the phone to the side(short side of the phone) my fat kinda hits the touch key so I'll keep going back or turning on the menu when I don't mean to.
off topic: Soo...I am looking at the spec of the new iPhone5s...what do you guys think of the claims Apple making saying it is going to be the best phone out on the market... Don't wanna turn this into an underground Apple hate thread...but seriously...they are no difference minus some very small hardware (the software is inferior to the android imo). What do you guys think? imo: I love this phone and I don't think it will get 1up-ed until Samsung releases their next product.
Iphone5 is gonna cost twice as much as a Galaxy S3 here so it's not even a competitive phone here. Only maybe for big screen haters.
On September 12 2012 21:43 KapsyL wrote: ive used it for a week now and its great. unfortunetly i feel it is a bit too sensitiv to the touches but then again it is a touch screen so just something to get used to. i only wish there was a way to lock down buttons and play music on same time otherwise it might touch the screen if its in your pocket or so other then that its perfect!!!
huh? If you click on the side button, it locks the screen out but keeps playing the music and goes through your album. So now do you consider it your perfect phone? My only concern is that my hand is kinda fat so whenever i hold the phone to the side(short side of the phone) my fat kinda hits the touch key so I'll keep going back or turning on the menu when I don't mean to.
off topic: Soo...I am looking at the spec of the new iPhone5s...what do you guys think of the claims Apple making saying it is going to be the best phone out on the market... Don't wanna turn this into an underground Apple hate thread...but seriously...they are no difference minus some very small hardware (the software is inferior to the android imo). What do you guys think? imo: I love this phone and I don't think it will get 1up-ed until Samsung releases their next product.
comes down to the OS, go for the one you like. simple as that.
On September 12 2012 21:43 KapsyL wrote: ive used it for a week now and its great. unfortunetly i feel it is a bit too sensitiv to the touches but then again it is a touch screen so just something to get used to. i only wish there was a way to lock down buttons and play music on same time otherwise it might touch the screen if its in your pocket or so other then that its perfect!!!
huh? If you click on the side button, it locks the screen out but keeps playing the music and goes through your album. So now do you consider it your perfect phone? My only concern is that my hand is kinda fat so whenever i hold the phone to the side(short side of the phone) my fat kinda hits the touch key so I'll keep going back or turning on the menu when I don't mean to.
off topic: Soo...I am looking at the spec of the new iPhone5s...what do you guys think of the claims Apple making saying it is going to be the best phone out on the market... Don't wanna turn this into an underground Apple hate thread...but seriously...they are no difference minus some very small hardware (the software is inferior to the android imo). What do you guys think? imo: I love this phone and I don't think it will get 1up-ed until Samsung releases their next product.
comes down to the OS, go for the one you like. simple as that.
Yeah.. At this point hardware is pretty much exactly the same -__-
On September 13 2012 12:02 heroyi wrote: My only concern is that my hand is kinda fat so whenever i hold the phone to the side(short side of the phone) my fat kinda hits the touch key so I'll keep going back or turning on the menu when I don't mean to.
Oh, I feel your pain. It'd like the phone so much more if they had stuck with the newer trend in Android (official Google ones like Galaxy Nexus) of having all buttons as soft buttons on the screen! I also keep touching the Back key by accident all the time just from holding the phone
On September 12 2012 21:43 KapsyL wrote: ive used it for a week now and its great. unfortunetly i feel it is a bit too sensitiv to the touches but then again it is a touch screen so just something to get used to. i only wish there was a way to lock down buttons and play music on same time otherwise it might touch the screen if its in your pocket or so other then that its perfect!!!
huh? If you click on the side button, it locks the screen out but keeps playing the music and goes through your album. So now do you consider it your perfect phone? My only concern is that my hand is kinda fat so whenever i hold the phone to the side(short side of the phone) my fat kinda hits the touch key so I'll keep going back or turning on the menu when I don't mean to.
off topic: Soo...I am looking at the spec of the new iPhone5s...what do you guys think of the claims Apple making saying it is going to be the best phone out on the market... Don't wanna turn this into an underground Apple hate thread...but seriously...they are no difference minus some very small hardware (the software is inferior to the android imo). What do you guys think? imo: I love this phone and I don't think it will get 1up-ed until Samsung releases their next product.
Get a case that is a little raised around the edge and you won't touch the keys with your palm anymore. Now it's even more perfect! (had the same problem). So is swiftkey really much better than swype? i am trying it right now and not digging it much, but maybe I need to get used to it more and give it time to learn my patterns?
On September 12 2012 21:43 KapsyL wrote: ive used it for a week now and its great. unfortunetly i feel it is a bit too sensitiv to the touches but then again it is a touch screen so just something to get used to. i only wish there was a way to lock down buttons and play music on same time otherwise it might touch the screen if its in your pocket or so other then that its perfect!!!
huh? If you click on the side button, it locks the screen out but keeps playing the music and goes through your album. So now do you consider it your perfect phone? My only concern is that my hand is kinda fat so whenever i hold the phone to the side(short side of the phone) my fat kinda hits the touch key so I'll keep going back or turning on the menu when I don't mean to.
off topic: Soo...I am looking at the spec of the new iPhone5s...what do you guys think of the claims Apple making saying it is going to be the best phone out on the market... Don't wanna turn this into an underground Apple hate thread...but seriously...they are no difference minus some very small hardware (the software is inferior to the android imo). What do you guys think? imo: I love this phone and I don't think it will get 1up-ed until Samsung releases their next product.
Get a case that is a little raised around the edge and you won't touch the keys with your palm anymore. Now it's even more perfect! (had the same problem). So is swiftkey really much better than swype? i am trying it right now and not digging it much, but maybe I need to get used to it more and give it time to learn my patterns?
imo its preference although the swiftkey is really impressive as its algorithm learns quickly. Swype is more "fun" to text with.
different topic: So...idk how or why but I have a small minor scratch on my screen :/ ... yea... Good news is that it is off on the side close to the casing border so it doesnt really get caught by the vision but it is there if you shine a light on it. Do you guys know any remedy that could fix it (i know toothpaste doesn't work xD).
also is it detrimental if I touch the speaker? I noticed whenever i touch it when playing sound it gets all distorted/staticy/warble-y. I am afraid that I am screwing up its health whenever i do that :/
Lastly, i noticed that when I'm on my lock screen (have the little dandelions as my wallpaper) I noticed that right above the large dandelion the color aren't right (i can see muttles/pixels of red, green and blue) as in its chaotic order whereas it should be clear and uniformed blue. HOWEVER, if I go to my homescreen (set the same wallpaper) there I noticed it is ok...Why is the wallpaper pixel coloring different on my lock and home? is there a way to fix or no?
edit: also how are you guys able to watch your videos without flash? Is their an app of which that can help circumvent this?
Need a new phone, been using my shitty old sony ericcsoon that I bought like 6 years ago. It was always crap, but hey it works and I didn't feel like replacing it. Been debating between this and/or waiting for the New Galaxy Note 2 in October. Only thing stopping me is if the Note 2 feels too big in the end. I want a big screen, and I'm not that worried about the size. The biggest thing will probably be if it's too big to fit in my pocket comfortably. Either way, Both the Galaxy 3 and Note look awesome, and it just feels exciting to finally upgrade my phone after so long.
On September 24 2012 12:31 Wedge wrote: Need a new phone, been using my shitty old sony ericcsoon that I bought like 6 years ago. It was always crap, but hey it works and I didn't feel like replacing it. Been debating between this and/or waiting for the New Galaxy Note 2 in October. Only thing stopping me is if the Note 2 feels too big in the end. I want a big screen, and I'm not that worried about the size. The biggest thing will probably be if it's too big to fit in my pocket comfortably. Either way, Both the Galaxy 3 and Note look awesome, and it just feels exciting to finally upgrade my phone after so long.
I know exactly how you feel. The s3 is the first phone I owned that is nice and the whole time I was excited to know I am upgrading.
The note 2 does seem very nice but it probably will occupy your whole pocket. I doubt you will have room to fit anything in your jeans if you were to place it in such. But it will definitely fit in your pocket. Just go take a look at the note since the physical attributes are your biggest concern. If you don't like how it feels then go for an s3. Either way you won't be disappointed with either phones and they wont be out of date for awhile.
So I installed a Jelly Bean Rom onto my phone and now my battery drains in 3 - 4 hours. I went to the Battery in the settings and it said that the Android system was at 57% and I have no idea how to fix that.
On October 02 2012 00:01 Cheeseburgered wrote: So I installed a Jelly Bean Rom onto my phone and now my battery drains in 3 - 4 hours. I went to the Battery in the settings and it said that the Android system was at 57% and I have no idea how to fix that.
Can anyone help?
First step: reboot your phone and see if it happens again. If it still occurs without you touching your phone much after the reboot, then you may have a problem. If so, look through my posts in this thread (I'm currently on my phone so it's a little inconvenient for me to do so myself), I have written a post regarding battery drain somewhere here already.
On October 02 2012 00:01 Cheeseburgered wrote: So I installed a Jelly Bean Rom onto my phone and now my battery drains in 3 - 4 hours. I went to the Battery in the settings and it said that the Android system was at 57% and I have no idea how to fix that.
Can anyone help?
Use BetterBatteryStats to check your device Wakelocks (Partial and Kernel). That way you'll be able to identify the app or service responsable for Battery Drain. A common issue in the stock Jelly Bean ROMs is the Media Scanner going crazy (Keeping the device awake and running at full CPU capacity for long periods of time in background). You can disable it with an app named "Rescan Media Root" from Google Play. You will need to be rooted to do so tho.
One of the best thing if not the best thing about androids is the development community behind it. I own a nexus S but I recently upgraded the ROM and kernel. Thing is twice as fast now, web browsing is lightning fast and even the camera load speed is faster. I can go 2 days without recharging as well. Adobe also stopped supporting android for jellybean and beyond. No more flash... but it doesn't matter. Someone in the community released a flask apk as soon as JB came out. Amazing community!
On October 02 2012 02:30 MiyaviTeddy wrote: So yeah my S3 been bugging me about the new firmware... I'm assuming its the update to Jelly Bean.
Is it worth upgrading from ice cream sandwich to jelly bean?
Jelly Bean's OTA upgrade is only available for Poland so far. So it's probably not the case for you unless you have the Poland CSC on your unbranded ROM.
It has numerous benefits. You get Google Now, which is pretty much Google's answer to Siri. I don't know what new features the Siri from OS6 has but Google Now definitely blows Siri of OS5 out of the water. It doesn't only act as voice recognition but also tries to integrate itself into your lifestyle; for example, if you search for a flight number, it will keep you updated on the status of that flight. It will keep track of your appointments and let you know the traffic is particularly bad on the way to the location and provide alternate routes. It will keep you up to date on the latest scores of any sports team you have recently searched. That sort of thing.
The other big bonus from Jelly Bean is something called Project Butter. Project Butter basically turbospeeds everything on your phone. Thought your phone was smooth before? It'll be even better after wards.
There are many other relatively minor updates but those are the two big ones.
Alright, noob question; Completely new to smartphones, and got myself an S3 after doing some research of my own. The official Twitch app lets me watch streams just fine, but I can't find a way to watch Own3d streams(haven't tried the official payed app cus I'm cheap)
TL;DR: want to watch own3d streams plzz help doods
On October 02 2012 00:01 Cheeseburgered wrote: So I installed a Jelly Bean Rom onto my phone and now my battery drains in 3 - 4 hours. I went to the Battery in the settings and it said that the Android system was at 57% and I have no idea how to fix that.
Can anyone help?
Use BetterBatteryStats to check your device Wakelocks (Partial and Kernel). That way you'll be able to identify the app or service responsable for Battery Drain. A common issue in the stock Jelly Bean ROMs is the Media Scanner going crazy (Keeping the device awake and running at full CPU capacity for long periods of time in background). You can disable it with an app named "Rescan Media Root" from Google Play. You will need to be rooted to do so tho.
Give it a try and report back!.-
I just downloaded cm10 and flashed that instead of putting up with my phone heating up my pocket. It's good so far
BUT
Why does it take 3 and a half hours to go from 2% to full battery with cm10? When I had touchwiz it took about 1 hour and 42 minutes
On October 02 2012 00:01 Cheeseburgered wrote: So I installed a Jelly Bean Rom onto my phone and now my battery drains in 3 - 4 hours. I went to the Battery in the settings and it said that the Android system was at 57% and I have no idea how to fix that.
Can anyone help?
Use BetterBatteryStats to check your device Wakelocks (Partial and Kernel). That way you'll be able to identify the app or service responsable for Battery Drain. A common issue in the stock Jelly Bean ROMs is the Media Scanner going crazy (Keeping the device awake and running at full CPU capacity for long periods of time in background). You can disable it with an app named "Rescan Media Root" from Google Play. You will need to be rooted to do so tho.
Give it a try and report back!.-
I just downloaded cm10 and flashed that instead of putting up with my phone heating up my pocket. It's good so far
BUT
Why does it take 3 and a half hours to go from 2% to full battery with cm10? When I had touchwiz it took about 1 hour and 42 minutes
Could be Kernel related, or again... an stray process of sorts.-
On October 02 2012 02:56 Aocowns wrote: Alright, noob question; Completely new to smartphones, and got myself an S3 after doing some research of my own. The official Twitch app lets me watch streams just fine, but I can't find a way to watch Own3d streams(haven't tried the official payed app cus I'm cheap)
TL;DR: want to watch own3d streams plzz help doods
try searching for the app called ggworld. i haven't used it lately but it worked at least a month ago on own3d streams (better than twitch at the time)
On October 02 2012 02:56 Aocowns wrote: Alright, noob question; Completely new to smartphones, and got myself an S3 after doing some research of my own. The official Twitch app lets me watch streams just fine, but I can't find a way to watch Own3d streams(haven't tried the official payed app cus I'm cheap)
TL;DR: want to watch own3d streams plzz help doods
try searching for the app called ggworld. i haven't used it lately but it worked at least a month ago on own3d streams (better than twitch at the time)
Doesn't work, it requires flash, which is not supported on 4.0.4, right?
On October 02 2012 02:56 Aocowns wrote: Alright, noob question; Completely new to smartphones, and got myself an S3 after doing some research of my own. The official Twitch app lets me watch streams just fine, but I can't find a way to watch Own3d streams(haven't tried the official payed app cus I'm cheap)
TL;DR: want to watch own3d streams plzz help doods
try searching for the app called ggworld. i haven't used it lately but it worked at least a month ago on own3d streams (better than twitch at the time)
Doesn't work, it requires flash, which is not supported on 4.0.4, right?
On October 02 2012 02:56 Aocowns wrote: Alright, noob question; Completely new to smartphones, and got myself an S3 after doing some research of my own. The official Twitch app lets me watch streams just fine, but I can't find a way to watch Own3d streams(haven't tried the official payed app cus I'm cheap)
TL;DR: want to watch own3d streams plzz help doods
On October 02 2012 02:56 Aocowns wrote: Alright, noob question; Completely new to smartphones, and got myself an S3 after doing some research of my own. The official Twitch app lets me watch streams just fine, but I can't find a way to watch Own3d streams(haven't tried the official payed app cus I'm cheap)
TL;DR: want to watch own3d streams plzz help doods
try searching for the app called ggworld. i haven't used it lately but it worked at least a month ago on own3d streams (better than twitch at the time)
Doesn't work, it requires flash, which is not supported on 4.0.4, right?
It should still be supported.
Flash will still run on any version of android, it is just no longer available from the play store and Adobe is no longer going to be optimizing it for the new OS updates. So its possible that at some point flash will be broken in android and it wont be updated with a fix but as of right now regardless of the version you are on it should still work. You just need to find and download the apk for it which should not be to hard just gotta search around, last i heard you could still pull it directly from Adobe website.
On October 02 2012 02:56 Aocowns wrote: Alright, noob question; Completely new to smartphones, and got myself an S3 after doing some research of my own. The official Twitch app lets me watch streams just fine, but I can't find a way to watch Own3d streams(haven't tried the official payed app cus I'm cheap)
TL;DR: want to watch own3d streams plzz help doods
On October 02 2012 02:56 Aocowns wrote: Alright, noob question; Completely new to smartphones, and got myself an S3 after doing some research of my own. The official Twitch app lets me watch streams just fine, but I can't find a way to watch Own3d streams(haven't tried the official payed app cus I'm cheap)
TL;DR: want to watch own3d streams plzz help doods
try searching for the app called ggworld. i haven't used it lately but it worked at least a month ago on own3d streams (better than twitch at the time)
Doesn't work, it requires flash, which is not supported on 4.0.4, right?
It should still be supported.
So if I install it manually it should work even though it's not supported, and I can't dl it from the google play store and whatever? I'll try ;o
EDIT: tyty Noev, it seems to work now ;o you're all awesome
On October 02 2012 02:56 Aocowns wrote: Alright, noob question; Completely new to smartphones, and got myself an S3 after doing some research of my own. The official Twitch app lets me watch streams just fine, but I can't find a way to watch Own3d streams(haven't tried the official payed app cus I'm cheap)
TL;DR: want to watch own3d streams plzz help doods
try searching for the app called ggworld. i haven't used it lately but it worked at least a month ago on own3d streams (better than twitch at the time)
Doesn't work, it requires flash, which is not supported on 4.0.4, right?
It should still be supported.
So if I install it manually it should work even though it's not supported, and I can't dl it from the google play store and whatever? I'll try ;o
EDIT: tyty Noev, it seems to work now ;o you're all awesome
Otherwise eStreamsTV is pretty awesome. Works on my gf's S3...
Just got the S3. Liking the phone overall, but one thing is really bugging me. When I uploaded some of my music to the phone, the album cover art keeps using the same cover for each artist regardless of having different album covers for different tracks. Is there any way to update this? This is the case for both the Google Play app and the Music Player app.
Also, maybe I am missing something obvious, but when I start playing a song in the Music Player app is there a better way to get back to the artist selection section without having to hit the Music Squares button? The bottom right hand corner button only takes you to the playlist that you are currently on.
I guess while we are on the topic, what music player does everyone else use on their S3?
Get the PowerAMP player. I'm not too keen on buying apps, but this one was worth every cent. It has a shitton of features which will puzzle you for a moment, but once you get the hang of it, you wouldn't wanna miss it and surely you won't want to use the built in player again.
I keep seeing the commercial where two guys touch their phone together and transfer a music playlist. All their hipster friends waiting in line for (presumably) the iPhone are super amazed and start wondering when the (presumably) iPhone will have that feature. My questions is: How is this a novel or even facilitating feature? Can't phones already transfer data though thin air across the entire globe? Seems more impressive than having to touch phones...
On October 15 2012 17:24 SupLilSon wrote: I keep seeing the commercial where two guys touch their phone together and transfer a music playlist. All their hipster friends waiting in line for (presumably) the iPhone are super amazed and start wondering when the (presumably) iPhone will have that feature. My questions is: How is this a novel or even facilitating feature? Can't phones already transfer data though thin air across the entire globe? Seems more impressive than having to touch phones...
Unless I'm mistaken, there's no way for iPhones to do it. I'm not even sure if iOS allows you to download an mp3 from the internet. In any case it would require you to upload to a website, and give the link to someone else for them to download it from.
On October 15 2012 17:24 SupLilSon wrote: I keep seeing the commercial where two guys touch their phone together and transfer a music playlist. All their hipster friends waiting in line for (presumably) the iPhone are super amazed and start wondering when the (presumably) iPhone will have that feature. My questions is: How is this a novel or even facilitating feature? Can't phones already transfer data though thin air across the entire globe? Seems more impressive than having to touch phones...
This sort of advertising targets the mass market. The mass market is generally very non tech savvy and are probably used to manually telling each other about so and so new song. They would think this is an amazing way to transfer music, not knowing that they can simply say 'check my Spotify ID for my play lists' etc.
Is it possible to watch livestreams through for example TL or twitch using a webbrowser with the S3? Do you have to install something to be able to watch it, or am I bound to use seperate apps to watch SC2 streams? (just rather use the browser...)
Is it worth to buy S3 over S2 if I'm not that into phones. Price difference is quite huge in Norway (about 300$) Also wondering how much the phone cost is in the US? my friend is in Las Vegas, and maybe I could save some by letting him buy one for me
On October 02 2012 00:01 Cheeseburgered wrote: So I installed a Jelly Bean Rom onto my phone and now my battery drains in 3 - 4 hours. I went to the Battery in the settings and it said that the Android system was at 57% and I have no idea how to fix that.
Can anyone help?
Use BetterBatteryStats to check your device Wakelocks (Partial and Kernel). That way you'll be able to identify the app or service responsable for Battery Drain. A common issue in the stock Jelly Bean ROMs is the Media Scanner going crazy (Keeping the device awake and running at full CPU capacity for long periods of time in background). You can disable it with an app named "Rescan Media Root" from Google Play. You will need to be rooted to do so tho.
Give it a try and report back!.-
I just downloaded cm10 and flashed that instead of putting up with my phone heating up my pocket. It's good so far
BUT
Why does it take 3 and a half hours to go from 2% to full battery with cm10? When I had touchwiz it took about 1 hour and 42 minutes
check if you're charging via usb or wall socket. USB limited to 5.4 volts vs around 9.1 via the wall wart adapter.
On October 21 2012 04:32 dark_dragoon10 wrote: SO the us version of Iphone is dual core... when will we get the quad core? Anyone know? I know they have it in SK with quad core and LTE...
Are you trolling or what?
On October 21 2012 04:36 ThePhan2m wrote: Is it worth to buy S3 over S2 if I'm not that into phones. Price difference is quite huge in Norway (about 300$) Also wondering how much the phone cost is in the US? my friend is in Las Vegas, and maybe I could save some by letting him buy one for me
On October 21 2012 04:32 dark_dragoon10 wrote: SO the us version of Iphone is dual core... when will we get the quad core? Anyone know? I know they have it in SK with quad core and LTE...
Are you trolling or what?
ROFL I meant to type S3 instead of Iphone. Was confused why you thought I was trolling. Gotta edit that.. ugh hangovers
I was wondering how to watch some of the videos that require flash. It is kinda annoying to be only able to watch youtube vidoes and certain webs when I want to go watch some hbo shows or episodes of my favorite shows in Project free tv... Is there anything that i can do that is like adobe?
On October 21 2012 04:32 dark_dragoon10 wrote: SO the us version of Iphone is dual core... when will we get the quad core? Anyone know? I know they have it in SK with quad core and LTE...
Are you trolling or what?
ROFL I meant to type S3 instead of Iphone. Was confused why you thought I was trolling. Gotta edit that.. ugh hangovers
You can buy the international version from Best Buy, unlocked. Was what I did when I arrived here a couple of months ago so I can bring it back to Denmark with me in a year.
On October 21 2012 04:36 ThePhan2m wrote: Is it worth to buy S3 over S2 if I'm not that into phones. Price difference is quite huge in Norway (about 300$) Also wondering how much the phone cost is in the US? my friend is in Las Vegas, and maybe I could save some by letting him buy one for me
If you don't want to spend do much, get the Galaxy Nexus. You get pretty much the same quality of hardware, with the advantage of earlier software updates.
I'm only now getting my update to Android 4.1 on the S3. 284MB, why did I do this when it's almost 2 AM?
On October 22 2012 09:04 Pulselol wrote: yeah man I totally just bought it just to sell it.
as of right now i'm using it as a phone, what kind of fancy shit can i do with it?
check out the xda developers forum, the section for your phone. http://forum.xda-developers.com/ Root it (basically unlock your phone to allow changes to system files). You will find guides in the android development section that will let you root and install new ROMs (operating systems) and useful programs on your phone. Install a good ROM, check out Mods/Tweaks section and customize the shit out of it. Just make sure you are in the right section based on your model/operator (lots of different S3s there)
On October 22 2012 09:35 scaban84 wrote: Screen cracked after just one drop, 1 and a half foot distance. I dropped my HTC evo 20 times over 2 feet and it never cracked. Very upset right now.
I've found that it hurts when I shove a fork in my eye.
On October 22 2012 09:35 scaban84 wrote: Screen cracked after just one drop, 1 and a half foot distance. I dropped my HTC evo 20 times over 2 feet and it never cracked. Very upset right now.
On October 22 2012 09:35 scaban84 wrote: Screen cracked after just one drop, 1 and a half foot distance. I dropped my HTC evo 20 times over 2 feet and it never cracked. Very upset right now.
Mine also got a crack on the screen.
I think a cover is a pretty good investment
Yeah a protector can be a great investment. Even gorilla glass can get scratched up apaprently. but I've heard accounts of people using gorilla glass and being somewhat careless with it and after a year the screen is apparently still pristine. but protecting your phone can be a sacrifice to varying degrees depending on how much you want it protected. i personally like my phone as thin and light as possible. i tried screen protectors for a bit but if you want something clear like i do you sacrifice some durability so the ones i've tried usually break down pretty quick after a month or so. i've tried harder screen protectors but they don't look as nice, and you get "the rainbow effect". my solution now is to use a nice minimal bumper and just go naked with the screen, using a messenger bag to carry it around the rest of the time. that way i can bring my laptop/tablet, chargers, and notes or whatever at the same time.
I personally disagree with scratch protectors in a vast majority of cases. I'm sure some people could find arguments for specific scenarios like "I like to put my phone in my pocket along with my keys and a handful of coins, and nails too". But in general, what's the point? You get your new phone, it's magnificent and glorious - and right away you make it ugly by throwing in a screen protector which inevitably has imperfections, and may not be installed exactly right. You carry it around for 2 or 3 years, and as time goes by the screen protector gets slightly beat up. Unfortunately your phone is now obsolete and barely worth anything. So all the time you've been protecting something that's now worthless.
I've had my Galaxy S for over 18 months now, the back is a bit scratched up because I use a case but the glass is scratch free. I could almost buy a new back on ebay and sell this thing as BNIB. And like I said, it still wouldn't be worth much.
Unless you're one of those people who get a new phone every 3 months, protecting your screen is dumb because it defeats the purpose. You put on an ugly protector to keep your phone from becoming ugly. So in the end, you have an obsolete phone who's never been as beautiful as it could be.
I got one of these babies for app development, and I must say as something as moving an image from point a to point b.. even an iPhone 4 looks way smoother
On October 22 2012 11:14 Djzapz wrote: I personally disagree with scratch protectors in a vast majority of cases. I'm sure some people could find arguments for specific scenarios like "I like to put my phone in my pocket along with my keys and a handful of coins, and nails too". But in general, what's the point? You get your new phone, it's magnificent and glorious - and right away you make it ugly by throwing in a screen protector which inevitably has imperfections, and may not be installed exactly right. You carry it around for 2 or 3 years, and as time goes by the screen protector gets slightly beat up. Unfortunately your phone is now obsolete and barely worth anything. So all the time you've been protecting something that's now worthless.
I've had my Galaxy S for over 18 months now, the back is a bit scratched up because I use a case but the glass is scratch free. I could almost buy a new back on ebay and sell this thing as BNIB. And like I said, it still wouldn't be worth much.
Unless you're one of those people who get a new phone every 3 months, protecting your screen is dumb because it defeats the purpose. You put on an ugly protector to keep your phone from becoming ugly. So in the end, you have an obsolete phone who's never been as beautiful as it could be.
I think a screen protector that is applied properly is not ugly at all, and is definitely not as ugly as the scratches you can get when it's in your pocket full of coins and stuff.
I have a Galaxy S2 and I've dropped my phone numerous times (mostly while drunk), then thinking, "oh shit, the phones going to be fucked and have a huge crack" or something along those lines.
Thankfully my plastic Korean IU case has saved my ass many times.
On October 21 2012 04:28 Kyuki wrote: Is it possible to watch livestreams through for example TL or twitch using a webbrowser with the S3? Do you have to install something to be able to watch it, or am I bound to use seperate apps to watch SC2 streams? (just rather use the browser...)
On October 21 2012 04:28 Kyuki wrote: Is it possible to watch livestreams through for example TL or twitch using a webbrowser with the S3? Do you have to install something to be able to watch it, or am I bound to use seperate apps to watch SC2 streams? (just rather use the browser...)
^ Anyone? =(
you can do it in browser as well as with a twitch.tv app i believe
On October 21 2012 04:28 Kyuki wrote: Is it possible to watch livestreams through for example TL or twitch using a webbrowser with the S3? Do you have to install something to be able to watch it, or am I bound to use seperate apps to watch SC2 streams? (just rather use the browser...)
^ Anyone? =(
you can do it in browser as well as with a twitch.tv app i believe
But I've read, and I've also just got my phone, that there is no flash support anymore. I can't watch anything atleast, do I need to DL something to make it work? (like adobes flash, or maybe some other developers? :s)
On October 22 2012 11:14 Djzapz wrote: I personally disagree with scratch protectors in a vast majority of cases. I'm sure some people could find arguments for specific scenarios like "I like to put my phone in my pocket along with my keys and a handful of coins, and nails too". But in general, what's the point? You get your new phone, it's magnificent and glorious - and right away you make it ugly by throwing in a screen protector which inevitably has imperfections, and may not be installed exactly right. You carry it around for 2 or 3 years, and as time goes by the screen protector gets slightly beat up. Unfortunately your phone is now obsolete and barely worth anything. So all the time you've been protecting something that's now worthless.
I've had my Galaxy S for over 18 months now, the back is a bit scratched up because I use a case but the glass is scratch free. I could almost buy a new back on ebay and sell this thing as BNIB. And like I said, it still wouldn't be worth much.
Unless you're one of those people who get a new phone every 3 months, protecting your screen is dumb because it defeats the purpose. You put on an ugly protector to keep your phone from becoming ugly. So in the end, you have an obsolete phone who's never been as beautiful as it could be.
I have armorsuit. I cant tell if i have the protector or not. Idk what you have used
Question 1: I am currently looking into buying an armband for my S3 for when I am running. I have recently moved to San Francisco, as the climate here, as well as in Denmark, can be very humid I am looking for something which will protect my phone (i.e. sweatproof and at the very least waterresistant). So far, every single model I have looked at appears to have at least 1 review stating issues with sweat and following problems with the electronics of the phone (even the armpocket which appears to be one of the best on the market is reported by one guy to have this issue). I have found one armband which claims to be waterproof down to 6 meters, but as it has no audiojack it defeats 50% of the purpose of bringing my phone (the other 50% is that I am regularly on call and thus need to be contactable at all times).
So I turn to you TL - have you got any experience with any armbands? Any recommendations?
Question 2: Anyone who have found some earphones that: 1) Does not fall out when running (preferably neckband like the sennheiser PMX-series) 2) Are compatible with android in the sense that I can control the soundlevel
Any help is appreciated! Thanks in advance!
EDIT: To the guy above me - that is the question about flash right? I believe you can download the flash app by allowing installation from non-market apps which should solve the problem. I will admit to not have done so myself, and only having asked my coworker. Hope this helps.
I like my S3 does everything you can want and does it perfectly. Battery life is great, camera is good, the uniquie screen is crystal clear.
My personal favorite peice of the phone is the fact you don't have to abuse your fingers everytime you want to read a text/article on the internet by zooming in endlessly and chopping off half the paragraphs because it doesn't fit on the screen. With the S3 you can see everything. I call it an "old man phone" in a way that you can be an old guy who can hardly read small text and use the S3 perfectly because you can see everything crystal clear and in the right size without zooming in and cutting it all off, making it all a big mess.
Wait until the S4? Maybe, i haven't heard of any tech specs on the S4 yet so im not sure. If you NEED a phone right now, get the S3, if you can wait until the S4 then wait a bit longer until the specs and such are out and compare it. Price will be dropping all the time on the S3 as well due to S4 being inc.
On November 23 2012 00:02 Pandemona wrote: I like my S3 does everything you can want and does it perfectly. Battery life is great, camera is good, the uniquie screen is crystal clear.
My personal favorite peice of the phone is the fact you don't have to abuse your fingers everytime you want to read a text/article on the internet by zooming in endlessly and chopping off half the paragraphs because it doesn't fit on the screen. With the S3 you can see everything. I call it an "old man phone" in a way that you can be an old guy who can hardly read small text and use the S3 perfectly because you can see everything crystal clear and in the right size without zooming in and cutting it all off, making it all a big mess.
Wait until the S4? Maybe, i haven't heard of any tech specs on the S4 yet so im not sure. If you NEED a phone right now, get the S3, if you can wait until the S4 then wait a bit longer until the specs and such are out and compare it. Price will be dropping all the time on the S3 as well due to S4 being inc.
Thanks for the reply.
I'm not too fussed about the specs, it's just that I want a smooth phone without any lags and hiccups.
I'm going to have a look at the S3 and decide then.
On November 17 2012 17:24 Ghostcom wrote: Question 1: I am currently looking into buying an armband for my S3 for when I am running. I have recently moved to San Francisco, as the climate here, as well as in Denmark, can be very humid I am looking for something which will protect my phone (i.e. sweatproof and at the very least waterresistant). So far, every single model I have looked at appears to have at least 1 review stating issues with sweat and following problems with the electronics of the phone (even the armpocket which appears to be one of the best on the market is reported by one guy to have this issue). I have found one armband which claims to be waterproof down to 6 meters, but as it has no audiojack it defeats 50% of the purpose of bringing my phone (the other 50% is that I am regularly on call and thus need to be contactable at all times).
So I turn to you TL - have you got any experience with any armbands? Any recommendations?
Question 2: Anyone who have found some earphones that: 1) Does not fall out when running (preferably neckband like the sennheiser PMX-series) 2) Are compatible with android in the sense that I can control the soundlevel
Any help is appreciated! Thanks in advance!
EDIT: To the guy above me - that is the question about flash right? I believe you can download the flash app by allowing installation from non-market apps which should solve the problem. I will admit to not have done so myself, and only having asked my coworker. Hope this helps.
I run with my s3 using the belkin armband with a small plastic bag around the phone (think sandwich/freezer bag). It's not optimal, but I was doing that even with my previous phone in case of rain. Other than that, I'm happy with the belkin one, fits my thin arms (no lifting or whatever) fine, material streches and isn't bothersome while running.
On October 22 2012 11:14 Djzapz wrote: I personally disagree with scratch protectors in a vast majority of cases. I'm sure some people could find arguments for specific scenarios like "I like to put my phone in my pocket along with my keys and a handful of coins, and nails too". But in general, what's the point? You get your new phone, it's magnificent and glorious - and right away you make it ugly by throwing in a screen protector which inevitably has imperfections, and may not be installed exactly right. You carry it around for 2 or 3 years, and as time goes by the screen protector gets slightly beat up. Unfortunately your phone is now obsolete and barely worth anything. So all the time you've been protecting something that's now worthless.
I've had my Galaxy S for over 18 months now, the back is a bit scratched up because I use a case but the glass is scratch free. I could almost buy a new back on ebay and sell this thing as BNIB. And like I said, it still wouldn't be worth much.
Unless you're one of those people who get a new phone every 3 months, protecting your screen is dumb because it defeats the purpose. You put on an ugly protector to keep your phone from becoming ugly. So in the end, you have an obsolete phone who's never been as beautiful as it could be.
I have armorsuit. I cant tell if i have the protector or not. Idk what you have used
On October 21 2012 04:28 Kyuki wrote: Is it possible to watch livestreams through for example TL or twitch using a webbrowser with the S3? Do you have to install something to be able to watch it, or am I bound to use seperate apps to watch SC2 streams? (just rather use the browser...)
^ Anyone? =(
you can do it in browser as well as with a twitch.tv app i believe
But I've read, and I've also just got my phone, that there is no flash support anymore. I can't watch anything atleast, do I need to DL something to make it work? (like adobes flash, or maybe some other developers? :s)
I'm on cm10 jellybean and to get flash you can just install the apk yourself and it works fine