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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
December 12 2011 23:40 GMT
#21
What I'm more surprised at is that Lowe's would actually listen to a bunch of racists/bigots and pull their show.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 12 2011 23:43 GMT
#22
On December 13 2011 08:27 Necrophantasia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 08:00 JinDesu wrote:
Just so people understand as well - Home Depot pulled ads out and are not subjected to the same scrutiny.

Basically, sucks to be Lowes.

On December 13 2011 07:57 Necrophantasia wrote:
Racist? What does Islam have to do with race?


If the OP re-wrote that to "bigoted", would you be appeased?


No. This has nothing to do with race whatsoever. Your "racist" group even points out what they have issue with is Islam not their Arabic descent.

Religious issues are rife in America, but this conservative group is free to express what they want. Funny how free speech applies even when people's beliefs conflict with yours.




Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's right. Funny how people think that free speech means the content of said speech is something worthwhile. At least most people still have the decency to back out of saying stupid things, even if they were within their legal right to say said stupid stuff.

bone577
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia65 Posts
December 12 2011 23:58 GMT
#23
On December 13 2011 07:57 Necrophantasia wrote:
Racist? What does Islam have to do with race?


Don't be such a wanker, it is obvious what he means, this is just semantics. Even then, it isn't correct semantics, a race can be just a group of people united by a common culture, making racism a perfectly fine word to use, go check a dictionary or something.
Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
December 12 2011 23:59 GMT
#24
People are upset at Lowes for caving to the demands of some group of loudmouthed bigots.

Really though, we should be upset with TLC. All reality-TV is terrible and TLC should be ashamed for airing it.
Who called in the fleet?
Stark1
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada120 Posts
December 13 2011 00:04 GMT
#25
Not going to endorse white supremacists, but a surprisingly large number of Muslims view their mass immigration/colonization as a form of warfare. Much of Europe is on track to be conquered from within in the next 50-100 years, so they do have some cause for concern.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
December 13 2011 00:08 GMT
#26
On December 13 2011 08:37 Krowser wrote:

Stay stagnant, America....


Keep making generalizations, Canada.
MrBludgeon
Profile Joined April 2011
United States30 Posts
December 13 2011 00:09 GMT
#27
On December 13 2011 08:43 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 08:27 Necrophantasia wrote:
On December 13 2011 08:00 JinDesu wrote:
Just so people understand as well - Home Depot pulled ads out and are not subjected to the same scrutiny.

Basically, sucks to be Lowes.

On December 13 2011 07:57 Necrophantasia wrote:
Racist? What does Islam have to do with race?


If the OP re-wrote that to "bigoted", would you be appeased?


No. This has nothing to do with race whatsoever. Your "racist" group even points out what they have issue with is Islam not their Arabic descent.

Religious issues are rife in America, but this conservative group is free to express what they want. Funny how free speech applies even when people's beliefs conflict with yours.




Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's right. Funny how people think that free speech means the content of said speech is something worthwhile. At least most people still have the decency to back out of saying stupid things, even if they were within their legal right to say said stupid stuff.



What's even more interesting is the fact people aren't even questioning whether this group has the right to say what they want. I think the issue at hand is the fact that this group attributes rather terribly beliefs to Muslims that they clearly should not be. I should clear up what I'm saying instead of being vague.

So, to preface this, I was raised Muslim (more on this later) and I came here with my family from Pakistan when I was too young to even speak. So, I have some connection with this issue, even though I was only briefly watching the news before I left for a final. Also, I will admit, I am not as well versed in the religion as my parents are, nor am I a practicing Muslim. Now, from personal experience I have met many people who were just flat out confused about Islam. This confusion ranged from "Muslim=Terrorist?" to "So you're a vegetarian, right?"

Despite this, I am consistently surprised when anyone makes a claim in the vicinity of "the values of Islam are <blah> and therefore bad." It seems quite easy for someone to just figure out whether or not many Muslims believe any of this. I guess this is why I believe the issues lies where it does. The mere fact that people seem to bathe in this ignorance makes me feel like the world is one giant shit hole, but what can you do? This brings me to my next point.

I have come to he realization that, by now, if people still buy the crap then they will continue to buy it even if you tell them to smell it. I do not claim to know why, and I will say this is all from personal experience, but it is what I sincerely believe. So, in reality, while I should be pissed about the fact that this is happening, all it has caused me to do is sigh audibly and move on with my life. Things have gotten much better, and nowadays when I tell people I'm a Muslim (it's a huge part of how I was raised), they're just surprised that I've never had bacon (yes, I have heard it's delicious, and no I am not going to try it). On the other hand, there are just some really stubborn people out there.

Anyway, this disorganized mass of thought is just a way for me to say "Fuck it" and move on with my life. Some people are stubborn and ignorant, but loads more are actually pretty good about figuring out what's really going on (or so it seems).
InTheFade
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1721 Posts
December 13 2011 00:09 GMT
#28
On December 13 2011 08:58 bone577 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 07:57 Necrophantasia wrote:
Racist? What does Islam have to do with race?


Don't be such a wanker

Made me laugh

As an American, let me call my brothers into arms. Raise your hand if you're actually surprised. Anyone? Anyone? Oh that's right, we know the power of special interest groups. And we know that white people here just on average don't like "brown" people. Crackers hide behind the flag, the bible, 9/11, all that good shit. Remember when everyone blew their brains when they said they might build a Mosque on Ground Zero? Yeah... moving forward, indeed.

I like living in the Pacific Northwest. We don't suffer a lot of this melodrama here, comparatively, to the midwest and south.
... Knowmsayin'?
Insomni7
Profile Joined June 2011
667 Posts
December 13 2011 00:10 GMT
#29
I will condemn both this racist group and anyone who acknowledges their message, takes their instructions, or anyone who gives them any credibility at all. Shame on them but shame on the advertiser too.
Never Forget.
Takezou
Profile Joined October 2010
United States320 Posts
December 13 2011 00:11 GMT
#30
On December 13 2011 09:04 Stark1 wrote:
Not going to endorse white supremacists, but a surprisingly large number of Muslims view their mass immigration/colonization as a form of warfare. Much of Europe is on track to be conquered from within in the next 50-100 years, so they do have some cause for concern.



I would like to you show that a "large" number of Muslims feel this way. You actually have anything to back that up?

amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 13 2011 00:11 GMT
#31
On December 13 2011 08:31 forgottendreams wrote:
Islam is a danger to our "American" liberties according to this org?

What a joke, at no point even 1,000 years from now will Islamic peoples be a majority nor have the voting bloc to change any of our rather secular and mundane governance philosophy.

Get real.


You don't know nothing man, they are coming. You may laugh at this, but mark my words.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 00:14:32
December 13 2011 00:14 GMT
#32
On December 13 2011 09:08 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 08:37 Krowser wrote:

Stay stagnant, America....


Keep making generalizations, Canada.


LOL the irony of this statement cracks me up
besteady
Profile Joined September 2010
United States75 Posts
December 13 2011 00:16 GMT
#33
This story makes me so angry, and I hope Lowe's gets boycotted. But I dont support the stupid politicians trying to use this to further their careers either.
teer
Profile Joined September 2010
United States189 Posts
December 13 2011 00:17 GMT
#34
this family represents the 1% of muslims that aren't short tempered, ignorant, violent and loud. We need more like them..

User was temp banned for this post.
GumThief
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada284 Posts
December 13 2011 00:18 GMT
#35
On December 13 2011 09:17 teer wrote:
this family represents the 1% of muslims that aren't short tempered, ignorant, violent and loud. We need more like them..



wow, what? idiot
:))
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
December 13 2011 00:19 GMT
#36
On December 13 2011 09:04 Stark1 wrote:
Not going to endorse white supremacists, but a surprisingly large number of Muslims view their mass immigration/colonization as a form of warfare. Much of Europe is on track to be conquered from within in the next 50-100 years, so they do have some cause for concern.


Colour me surprised. Who exactly thinks that the children of the children of the children of these immigrants, no matter how fundie they are, will have the same views?

Much of Europe is on track to split up the Euro zone and start fighting amongst each other, same as last century also. I would infact say thats a much bigger concern.
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 00:20:40
December 13 2011 00:19 GMT
#37
On December 13 2011 09:11 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 08:31 forgottendreams wrote:
Islam is a danger to our "American" liberties according to this org?

What a joke, at no point even 1,000 years from now will Islamic peoples be a majority nor have the voting bloc to change any of our rather secular and mundane governance philosophy.

Get real.


You don't know nothing man, they are coming. You may laugh at this, but mark my words.


Islam, like few other cultures, successfully resists full assimilation into new countries. This means brown people are going to be celebrating a religion and practice different from yours for the next few generations and that will do plenty to piss off American bigots. You're deranged if you think America is getting out of our two-party, corporatist, WASP system anytime soon.

Note that ad money was the only thing strong enough to get Glenn Beck off a regular Fox show.
tso
Profile Joined April 2010
United States132 Posts
December 13 2011 00:20 GMT
#38
saw this coming a few weeks ago.. either.. michael medved or fox news was blurbing it around..

so sad really. the worst is this is probably their best show, next to married midgets and polygamists
...
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
December 13 2011 00:20 GMT
#39
On December 13 2011 09:11 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 08:31 forgottendreams wrote:
Islam is a danger to our "American" liberties according to this org?

What a joke, at no point even 1,000 years from now will Islamic peoples be a majority nor have the voting bloc to change any of our rather secular and mundane governance philosophy.

Get real.


You don't know nothing man, they are coming. You may laugh at this, but mark my words.


I came a little bit, just reading that. So I guess your statement is correct.

Also I am in the US and I am taking your jobs and houses. I imagine that does make me some sort of an invader right?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 13 2011 00:22 GMT
#40
WOW
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
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