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flothere
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany55 Posts
November 05 2011 23:15 GMT
#61
Awesome, quite addicting already.
TLsunday
InsomniAA
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands10 Posts
November 05 2011 23:18 GMT
#62
Really love this.
Using it for Mandarin just for fun and for some reason I remember the meanings really well (usually really struggling with learning new words).

Thanks for sharing.
bRuTaL!!
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland588 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 23:22:49
November 05 2011 23:22 GMT
#63
The russian version doesnt work very well. It asked to type english with a russian keyboard. Also the font is weird, I cant read some letters. Otherwise, great stuff. Im just learning the basics of Russian so this couldnt have come at a better time.
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NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 23:37:35
November 05 2011 23:31 GMT
#64
Thank you very much for this site!!! It's what I need to raise my grades in Spanish!

Anyone having problems uploading a profile picture?
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Dotrar
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia46 Posts
November 05 2011 23:39 GMT
#65
is this meant to be aimed at beginners or more intermediate?
im chronically new to korean, but i got some points.
i cant help but feel that im just memorizing the shapes though ;~;
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
November 05 2011 23:41 GMT
#66
On November 06 2011 08:39 Dotrar wrote:
is this meant to be aimed at beginners or more intermediate?
im chronically new to korean, but i got some points.
i cant help but feel that im just memorizing the shapes though ;~;


Yeah, same here. I've been taking Spanish for some time and I learned most of the words. But I think it gets harder as time goes on. It's good review though.
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gregdetre
Profile Joined November 2011
44 Posts
November 06 2011 01:26 GMT
#67
> Be warned, multiple-choice tests are not effective way to memorize stuff.

Hey there - I'm Greg Detre, one of the founders of Memrise. You're absolutely right about this - multiple choice is really testing recognition rather than recall, and risks actually teaching you the wrong answers.

That said, we've found it works well as training wheels - we test you with multiple choice once or twice while your memory is new, and then as it gets stronger we switch to more rigorous tests (like typing).

Simplifying a little, the optimal way to strengthen a memory is to test and test and test it, progressively increasing the difficulty. That's what we're doing here.

Feel free to ask me other questions!

Yours,
Greg
Memrise CTO
Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 03:58:26
November 06 2011 03:51 GMT
#68
Am I seeing this right? Already 9 of us in the top 100? XD (New day started 5 hours ago but still... )

On November 06 2011 08:39 Dotrar wrote:
im chronically new to korean, but i got some points.
i cant help but feel that im just memorizing the shapes though ;~;


Can you read hangul? Like read it out loud. For me it helps to just say the word and then answer it. Makes remembering it for writing easier too.
시크릿 / 씨스타 / 에이핑크 / 윤하 / 가비앤제이
Snackysnacks
Profile Joined December 2010
United States411 Posts
November 06 2011 04:39 GMT
#69
On November 06 2011 10:26 gregdetre wrote:
> Be warned, multiple-choice tests are not effective way to memorize stuff.

Hey there - I'm Greg Detre, one of the founders of Memrise. You're absolutely right about this - multiple choice is really testing recognition rather than recall, and risks actually teaching you the wrong answers.

That said, we've found it works well as training wheels - we test you with multiple choice once or twice while your memory is new, and then as it gets stronger we switch to more rigorous tests (like typing).

Simplifying a little, the optimal way to strengthen a memory is to test and test and test it, progressively increasing the difficulty. That's what we're doing here.

Feel free to ask me other questions!

Yours,
Greg
Memrise CTO

Wow, well aint that neat to come and visit this community.

Ive spent around 3 hours today so far, really liking the service, its perfect as a SUPPLEMENT to learning a language, and i like it way better than a site such as http://quizlet.com/ with the main difference being that words carry over from one test section to another. I noticed after messing with some of the tests under "Mandarin" language that words carried over from my other tests, increasing my vocabulary pool. Really really great.


The goal of this service is to remain free, correct? And future plans to bring this to a classroom level?
Also, the mandarin section really needs to be broken up for simplified and traditional characters, some tests dont really state and the (un-featured) traditional mandarin is pretty bad.
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Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
November 06 2011 06:07 GMT
#70
TL is ownage.[image loading]
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
November 06 2011 06:14 GMT
#71
Nice work TL haha.

Anyone know of good ways to learn language structure, grammar and syntax and stuff?

The translating written passages sounds like something you'd use after you were at least somewhat familiar with this so I was just wondering if anyone knew of good resources.

Then again it's probably specific to each language and no one program/site/piece of software will really cover them all.
GTo7_Panda
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany68 Posts
November 06 2011 07:44 GMT
#72
Nerdchills... Thanks TL! You guys rock;)

Will join you guys to make the 10% of the TL-TOP100 complete. Not that this would be our limit;D

Adding all the memrise-using users I could see to the OP. If you want me to also write the languages you are learning, pls write in the thread and I will update the OP (two reasons: Englisch and Mandarin is choosen as default and also: The more people bump this thread, the more attention it gets and more people have the possibility to use memrise^^)

Hey Greg -
first thank you for visiting this thread and Teamliquid:D Awesome!
My questions:

Is there a limit of different languages you can learn at the same time? Or: How much can the brain handle to learn, considering the information are dedicated to the long-term-memory?

Is the quality of the memorization lower if I just view memrise as a game instead of a tool for learning vocabularies?

And how comes that the brain understands more words that it can use? This one really bugs me^^



RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
November 06 2011 07:47 GMT
#73
Reminds me of this DS game, but I forgot what its called. Sorry.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
rkffhk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
474 Posts
November 06 2011 08:28 GMT
#74
Count me in!

I like this a lot for rote memorization of vocabulary. Its a lot more fun than what I've been doing in the past.

TL-rkffhk
"Did not realize gold was such an important threshold for people, I guess I honestly take it for granted that if people practice / invest enough time into this game then they would make diamond in no time." ~Caihead
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
November 06 2011 08:42 GMT
#75
I am new to the site and just started, but I am listed as TL-TheAmazombie. Thanks for sharing this!
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ZeroChrome
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 09:06:53
November 06 2011 08:56 GMT
#76
Thanks for sharing this site. Very useful tool for learning vocab. I've been learning Korean for a while and sometimes I feel like I know more grammar rules and sentence structure than I do words.

My ID on the site is TL-ZeroChrome and I started Korean and French.

92nd on todays top 100 ftw EDIT: rocking 79th now.
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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 06 2011 09:04 GMT
#77
This is awesome. Aweeesome.

TL-ym
lalala
FreeZer
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden288 Posts
November 06 2011 09:11 GMT
#78
I decided to give this a shot to try and boost my french a bit.

TL-FreeZer
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snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 09:58:26
November 06 2011 09:12 GMT
#79
Oh dude. As a Chinese Australian who has proper Chinese grammar but absolutely horrid vocabulary, THANK YOU!!!! I'll definitely use this and hopefully I'll be able to converse with my parents in Chinese about things slightly more complicated than food!

Add me in. TL-snotboogie
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
November 06 2011 09:13 GMT
#80
On November 06 2011 10:26 gregdetre wrote:
> Be warned, multiple-choice tests are not effective way to memorize stuff.

Hey there - I'm Greg Detre, one of the founders of Memrise. You're absolutely right about this - multiple choice is really testing recognition rather than recall, and risks actually teaching you the wrong answers.

That said, we've found it works well as training wheels - we test you with multiple choice once or twice while your memory is new, and then as it gets stronger we switch to more rigorous tests (like typing).

Simplifying a little, the optimal way to strengthen a memory is to test and test and test it, progressively increasing the difficulty. That's what we're doing here.

Feel free to ask me other questions!

Yours,
Greg
Memrise CTO


Hello Greg,

I don't mean to put you on the spot or anything, but when you say "the optimal way to strengthen a memory is to test and test and test it, progressively increasing the difficulty," by what psycholinguistic hypothesis are you asserting this claim?

The reason software like this bothers me is it simply goes against everything we have discovered about language learning in the past fifty years. If applied linguists have learned one thing from the fall of the audiolingual method, it was this: drilling will almost never take somebody past the most novice stages of language learning. Rosetta Stone went against all of the theory surrounding applied linguistics with this (despite claims that their software is linguist approved), and to no surprise, it is an overpriced, useless piece of software.

I agree that it can indeed by incorporated into a more holistic approach to language learning, but using it as a main source of stimulus has long been known to be ineffective. If you could be more specific and tell us why you believe this system is effective, I'd like to hear more about it.
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