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Memrise: Learning languages with a game approach - Page 4
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flothere
Germany55 Posts
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InsomniAA
Netherlands10 Posts
Using it for Mandarin just for fun and for some reason I remember the meanings really well (usually really struggling with learning new words). Thanks for sharing. | ||
bRuTaL!!
Finland588 Posts
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NationInArms
United States1553 Posts
Anyone having problems uploading a profile picture? | ||
Dotrar
Australia46 Posts
im chronically new to korean, but i got some points. i cant help but feel that im just memorizing the shapes though ;~; | ||
NationInArms
United States1553 Posts
On November 06 2011 08:39 Dotrar wrote: is this meant to be aimed at beginners or more intermediate? im chronically new to korean, but i got some points. i cant help but feel that im just memorizing the shapes though ;~; Yeah, same here. I've been taking Spanish for some time and I learned most of the words. But I think it gets harder as time goes on. It's good review though. | ||
gregdetre
44 Posts
Hey there - I'm Greg Detre, one of the founders of Memrise. You're absolutely right about this - multiple choice is really testing recognition rather than recall, and risks actually teaching you the wrong answers. That said, we've found it works well as training wheels - we test you with multiple choice once or twice while your memory is new, and then as it gets stronger we switch to more rigorous tests (like typing). Simplifying a little, the optimal way to strengthen a memory is to test and test and test it, progressively increasing the difficulty. That's what we're doing here. Feel free to ask me other questions! Yours, Greg Memrise CTO | ||
Kaiwa
Netherlands2209 Posts
![]() On November 06 2011 08:39 Dotrar wrote: im chronically new to korean, but i got some points. i cant help but feel that im just memorizing the shapes though ;~; Can you read hangul? Like read it out loud. For me it helps to just say the word and then answer it. Makes remembering it for writing easier too. | ||
Snackysnacks
United States411 Posts
On November 06 2011 10:26 gregdetre wrote: > Be warned, multiple-choice tests are not effective way to memorize stuff. Hey there - I'm Greg Detre, one of the founders of Memrise. You're absolutely right about this - multiple choice is really testing recognition rather than recall, and risks actually teaching you the wrong answers. That said, we've found it works well as training wheels - we test you with multiple choice once or twice while your memory is new, and then as it gets stronger we switch to more rigorous tests (like typing). Simplifying a little, the optimal way to strengthen a memory is to test and test and test it, progressively increasing the difficulty. That's what we're doing here. Feel free to ask me other questions! Yours, Greg Memrise CTO Wow, well aint that neat to come and visit this community. Ive spent around 3 hours today so far, really liking the service, its perfect as a SUPPLEMENT to learning a language, and i like it way better than a site such as http://quizlet.com/ with the main difference being that words carry over from one test section to another. I noticed after messing with some of the tests under "Mandarin" language that words carried over from my other tests, increasing my vocabulary pool. Really really great. The goal of this service is to remain free, correct? And future plans to bring this to a classroom level? Also, the mandarin section really needs to be broken up for simplified and traditional characters, some tests dont really state and the (un-featured) traditional mandarin is pretty bad. | ||
Cool Cat
United States1644 Posts
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
Anyone know of good ways to learn language structure, grammar and syntax and stuff? The translating written passages sounds like something you'd use after you were at least somewhat familiar with this so I was just wondering if anyone knew of good resources. Then again it's probably specific to each language and no one program/site/piece of software will really cover them all. | ||
GTo7_Panda
Germany68 Posts
Will join you guys to make the 10% of the TL-TOP100 complete. Not that this would be our limit;D Adding all the memrise-using users I could see to the OP. If you want me to also write the languages you are learning, pls write in the thread and I will update the OP ![]() Hey Greg - first thank you for visiting this thread and Teamliquid:D Awesome! ![]() My questions: Is there a limit of different languages you can learn at the same time? Or: How much can the brain handle to learn, considering the information are dedicated to the long-term-memory? Is the quality of the memorization lower if I just view memrise as a game instead of a tool for learning vocabularies? And how comes that the brain understands more words that it can use? This one really bugs me^^ | ||
RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
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rkffhk
474 Posts
I like this a lot for rote memorization of vocabulary. Its a lot more fun than what I've been doing in the past. TL-rkffhk | ||
TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
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ZeroChrome
Canada1001 Posts
My ID on the site is TL-ZeroChrome and I started Korean and French. 92nd on todays top 100 ftw EDIT: rocking 79th now. | ||
youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
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FreeZer
Sweden288 Posts
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
Add me in. TL-snotboogie | ||
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
On November 06 2011 10:26 gregdetre wrote: > Be warned, multiple-choice tests are not effective way to memorize stuff. Hey there - I'm Greg Detre, one of the founders of Memrise. You're absolutely right about this - multiple choice is really testing recognition rather than recall, and risks actually teaching you the wrong answers. That said, we've found it works well as training wheels - we test you with multiple choice once or twice while your memory is new, and then as it gets stronger we switch to more rigorous tests (like typing). Simplifying a little, the optimal way to strengthen a memory is to test and test and test it, progressively increasing the difficulty. That's what we're doing here. Feel free to ask me other questions! Yours, Greg Memrise CTO Hello Greg, I don't mean to put you on the spot or anything, but when you say "the optimal way to strengthen a memory is to test and test and test it, progressively increasing the difficulty," by what psycholinguistic hypothesis are you asserting this claim? The reason software like this bothers me is it simply goes against everything we have discovered about language learning in the past fifty years. If applied linguists have learned one thing from the fall of the audiolingual method, it was this: drilling will almost never take somebody past the most novice stages of language learning. Rosetta Stone went against all of the theory surrounding applied linguistics with this (despite claims that their software is linguist approved), and to no surprise, it is an overpriced, useless piece of software. I agree that it can indeed by incorporated into a more holistic approach to language learning, but using it as a main source of stimulus has long been known to be ineffective. If you could be more specific and tell us why you believe this system is effective, I'd like to hear more about it. | ||
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