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Memrise: Learning languages with a game approach - Page 3
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Kaiwa
Netherlands2209 Posts
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Sanctimonius
United Kingdom861 Posts
On November 06 2011 02:24 InRaged wrote: Be warned, multiple-choice tests are not effective way to memorize stuff. I'm studying Japanese vocabulary for a half-year now and first ~3 monthes I was using Rosetta stone which is also based on multi-choice tests. After finishing 3rd level, I've started using anki (amazing tool by the way) and I couldn't remember shit from rosetta stone. Author of anki also says that he won't implement such tests in his program, because of their inefficiency. So, my suggestion is if you use this website, try to remember answers before you look at available options, and if you can't, treat it as a failure. I agree that multiple-choice isn't the best way to learn vocab. That said, in this system it doesn't consider you to have learned a word until you've typed it from memory. From what I can tell, you are shown the word. You are tested a few times, then four hours later you can 'harvest' it, which is when you have to type it from memory. If you do this correctly, it is in your greenhouse. Once there you have to 'water' it by retyping the word every so often, so you get into the habit of reviewing words you've learned. Very interesting method, I'll be trying it out over the newt few weeks. | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
 EDIT: And I would advise anyone learning a language to exclusively learn vocabulary and not bother with grammar until you're quite advanced...That's why it takes people on university courses so long to learn anything | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
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AxUU
Finland162 Posts
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Nivoh
Norway259 Posts
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SilentShout
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
Agree somewhat about the multiple choice part, wish the options only appeared after 2 or 3 seconds. Not all the questions are multiple choice though so it's not that much of a problem. | ||
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Straught
Mexico157 Posts
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Ziktomini
United Kingdom377 Posts
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InRaged
1047 Posts
On November 06 2011 05:23 Sanctimonius wrote: I agree that multiple-choice isn't the best way to learn vocab. That said, in this system it doesn't consider you to have learned a word until you've typed it from memory. From what I can tell, you are shown the word. You are tested a few times, then four hours later you can 'harvest' it, which is when you have to type it from memory. If you do this correctly, it is in your greenhouse. Once there you have to 'water' it by retyping the word every so often, so you get into the habit of reviewing words you've learned. Very interesting method, I'll be trying it out over the newt few weeks. I had my suspicions that it works like that but I couldn't move past typing in phase, cause I have no idea how to type in Japanese lol... If it works like you and Panda suggest then it's actually really-really cool. Now I just need to figure out how to type. Can you help with that, by any means? On November 06 2011 03:29 JieXian wrote: They seem to have mnemonics, sample audio clips and sample sentences which anki doesn't, though they are user submitted. Anki does have support for audio clips, sample sentences and images, but not all decks have them (also this functionality is only in the standalone app itself and not at the ankiweb). Anyway, disregard what I said about multiple-choice stuff. If memrise uses it only to familiarize yourself with the new word then it's perfectly fine. | ||
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Ingwaz
Sweden70 Posts
Another great way to enhance your language skills is to replay games in your language of choice. | ||
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Sanctimonius
United Kingdom861 Posts
On November 06 2011 05:49 InRaged wrote: I had my suspicions that it works like that but I couldn't move past typing in phase, cause I have no idea how to type in Japanese lol... If it works like you and Panda suggest then it's actually really-really cool. Now I just need to figure out how to type. Can you help with that, by any means? Yeah people are having a bit of difficulty with this For the Japanese one, I'm on a Mac so I changed the input to kana and wrote out the answers like that. I knew how to do this before though, I've studied Japanese before and had it already installed. You can mess around with the keyboard inputs on Macs and PCs, but it helps to know the alphabet beforehand - I'm trying the arabic one too and since I don't know the arabic alphabet I have no idea what the keyboard layout is  | ||
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Enox
Germany1667 Posts
On November 06 2011 03:29 Eogris wrote: am i the only one that struggles with grammar instead of vocab well, even with the wrong grammar, ppl will be able to understand you. that wont be t he case if you dont know the words imo you have the smaller problem if you are good with vocab und bad with grammer :p | ||
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Falco252
France197 Posts
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Isken
Korea (South)1131 Posts
I'm going in two months to study in Austria and although my german grammar has set in reasonably well, my vocabulary is lackluster Will try it | ||
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MonkSEA
Australia1227 Posts
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GTo7_Panda
Germany68 Posts
On November 06 2011 05:13 Chaosvuistje wrote: Its a cool concept in combination with other aids. Self study to me never worked if I didn't immerse myself into it completely. If you are just going to use this site for learning then I doubt you will hang onto the language for long after you quit playing it. That's just my experience from using Rosetta stone programs and flashcard programs. I rather read texts and translate the words so when a word comes up a couple of times I can remember the translation and learn it via repetition that way. I also do the same with my italian in the moment. As I am currently living in Italy, I bought myself Narnia on italian and read one capter, while doing a list with unknown words. After the chapter is finished, I translate the words and read the chapter again On the other side there are many many words in daily spoken language that you won´t learn via repetition that easily. For example the thing that opens the door "handle", or basin or box and stuff. Many many words that are to much for me to remember in daily conversation if I don´t use a notice book. With memrise I already had moments like when I read a label and recognized a word I just learned yesterday:D Of course it will take some time until I have my 3000-5000 words down so that I don´t need to rely on really simple words anymore. But because there is a Ladderbord and stuff I will stay. With your method you will learn the most used words in short time, but at some point you will hit a wall where you have to learn these random words in order to make progress IMO. Your method is a very good and viable option for the early to the midgame, but lategame you need to have something different. This is where memrise supports in a awesome fashion. And if you have spare time, you can also start with memrise simultaniosly while learning with repetition method:D Instead of your repetition method you could also learn the TOP 500 or TOP 1000 words of the language, also available on memrise. Should be similar, statistically | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
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Snackysnacks
United States411 Posts
I wish there was more traditional Mandarin options, though, my girlfriend said to suck it up and recognize both. If you have time op, you should make a list of TL-(users) on this, so we can recognize each other on the leader boards to what we are studying. I already see a few. TL-Snackysnacks | ||
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