EPTMemrise: Learning languages with a game approach - Page 2
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On November 06 2011 02:24 InRaged wrote: Be warned, multiple-choice tests are not effective way to memorize stuff. I'm studying Japanese vocabulary for a half-year now and first ~3 monthes I was using Rosetta stone which is also based on multi-choice tests. After finishing 3rd level, I've started using anki (amazing tool by the way) and I couldn't remember shit from rosetta stone. Author of anki also says that he won't implement such tests in his program, because of their inefficiency. So, my suggestion is if you use this website, try to remember answers before you look at available options, and if you can't, treat it as a failure. Ok, this makes sense. Will try anki too. Thank you. | ||
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JoeReally
Austria12 Posts
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
On November 06 2011 02:24 InRaged wrote: Be warned, multiple-choice tests are not effective way to memorize stuff. I'm studying Japanese vocabulary for a half-year now and first ~3 monthes I was using Rosetta stone which is also based on multi-choice tests. After finishing 3rd level, I've started using anki (amazing tool by the way) and I couldn't remember shit from rosetta stone. Author of anki also says that he won't implement such tests in his program, because of their inefficiency. So, my suggestion is if you use this website, try to remember answers before you look at available options, and if you can't, treat it as a failure. What do you reckon about using them together/both? (obviously not at the exact same time lol) Would you reckon they'd compliment each other decently or should more time be invested in anki? | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On November 06 2011 03:16 Phenny wrote: What do you reckon about using them together/both? (obviously not at the exact same time lol) Would you reckon they'd compliment each other decently or should more time be invested in anki? They seem to have mnemonics, sample audio clips and sample sentences which anki doesn't, though they are user submitted. imo if you can control yourself not to look at the choices and recall it like he said then it should be fine. When I was learning through audio books I didn't remember everything and even now as I read stuff I have to keep looking up the same word repeatedly until eventually I remembered it because it was common enough. Besides based on my experience with audio books, different methods have different strengths. | ||
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Eogris
United States148 Posts
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Gak2
Canada418 Posts
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
Im up to 16 words now, but the language is so strange to learn. person who does = earth over sun? pig = person who does + small dog ? | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
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micronesia
United States24803 Posts
I want to brush up on my Japanese but I can only read it when it's romanized... edit: el embotellamiento Does that really belong in your first couple of sessions? lol | ||
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Draconicfire
Canada2562 Posts
On November 06 2011 03:43 micronesia wrote: Decided to brush up on my Spanish a bit... kinda cheating since I already knew some of it XD I want to brush up on my Japanese but I can only read it when it's romanized... Yea, especially with hanzi/kanji/hanja, if we don't know it, how are we supposed to type it in? They should at least give out the kana form of the word, if not romanized. EDIT: Signed up as TL-Draconicfire btw. Will probably be trying to get up there in the leader boards haha. | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
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AirbladeOrange
United States2574 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On November 06 2011 03:32 Masq wrote: haha I'm using the mandarin tutorial on that site, its neat. Im up to 16 words now, but the language is so strange to learn. person who does = earth over sun? pig = person who does + small dog ? Some words have different meanings a long time ago (when the word was created of course), including the whole word and it's smaller "mini-word parts". But I don't know how to help you with those 2 though. Edit: I've gone through anki. It definitely is good and I'll be using it but it doesn't show you how it's pronounced. You'd need to complement that with something else. | ||
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GTo7_Panda
Germany68 Posts
On November 06 2011 02:24 InRaged wrote: Be warned, multiple-choice tests are not effective way to memorize stuff. I'm studying Japanese vocabulary for a half-year now and first ~3 monthes I was using Rosetta stone which is also based on multi-choice tests. After finishing 3rd level, I've started using anki (amazing tool by the way) and I couldn't remember shit from rosetta stone. Author of anki also says that he won't implement such tests in his program, because of their inefficiency. I edited the OP: The test is not just multiple choice. If you do well (after 3-4 right answers in a row or something like that), the test format moves to type-answers-from-your-brain. And not just english-foreign, but also the other way around  I also started with Anki, but I like memrise more. It makes more fun, the testformat is less predictable and I remember more words Another thing I noticed: memrise seems to have smarter answers. Anki is like: correct answer is xya(blabla). You type: "xya" Anki: wrong. memrise ignores what is written in the (), and also seems to have more thought-out answers in generall With Anki I didn´t like the concept of measuring the difficulty of the words. memrise does this task, and it does it good. When a word is wrong, it is wrong because you don´t know how to write it, and not because you forgot a (). | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
On November 06 2011 03:43 micronesia wrote: Decided to brush up on my Spanish a bit... kinda cheating since I already knew some of it XD I want to brush up on my Japanese but I can only read it when it's romanized... edit: el embotellamiento Does that really belong in your first couple of sessions? lol Here micro, goto this link for the hiragana memrise http://www.memrise.com/topic/japanese-hiragana/ . I've spent about an hour going through the kanji course and it seems pretty legit. I'm comfortable recognizing the basic kanji, much better than trying to study the old fashion way by a plain boring looking book. The only thing I feel odd about it is the fact that I haven't written a single thing down on paper, which I would normally do to memorize the strokes, but the kanji itself registers in my head. I feel pretty weirded out by that lol. There's also a wonky pronounciation learning guide for the kanji too so that you can associate the sound of the kanji to the character which I thought was great, but the beta guide seems buggy. 土 ＝ soil or earth 木 ＝ tree 士 ＝ scholar なべふた = lid (but iit seems like I can't turn my hiragana into plain radical kanji or w/e so I question the accuracy of some of these meanings and characters) But yeah, if I can type it from heart onto the forum then it surely has benefited me even though the vocab couldn't be anymore random. I'll probably also check out the SAT vocab so I can learn new ways to insult people. | ||
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
On November 06 2011 03:43 micronesia wrote: Decided to brush up on my Spanish a bit... kinda cheating since I already knew some of it XD I want to brush up on my Japanese but I can only read it when it's romanized... edit: el embotellamiento Does that really belong in your first couple of sessions? lol That is the toughest word for me right now. Shortly followed by pronouncing deshacer las meletas | ||
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Invictus212
United Kingdom78 Posts
On November 06 2011 02:46 Arnstein wrote: Almost like Khan Academy for math. Check out www.khanacademy.org Arnstein, this is an amazing site as well. Wow, I am so glad I signed onto TL today. I've been looking for good websites for both language and math practice. | ||
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Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
Someone has to make "sc2 language" :p, or gaming language. I think this really has potential and can be used to teach millions of people different foreign languages. It's one nice spot on the internet where if you can/want should contribute . | ||
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
Self study to me never worked if I didn't immerse myself into it completely. If you are just going to use this site for learning then I doubt you will hang onto the language for long after you quit playing it. That's just my experience from using Rosetta stone programs and flashcard programs. I rather read texts and translate the words so when a word comes up a couple of times I can remember the translation and learn it via repetition that way. | ||
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