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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
Absentia
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom973 Posts
January 04 2013 01:23 GMT
#1221
A useful analogy for approaching girls really is like getting over Starcraft ladder fear. You don't get good at Starcraft by hovering the mouse over the Find Match button and then going to play UMS. Just hit the damn Find Match button.

You might lose and feel like an idiot but at the same time it's a learning experience. As you play more, the less ladder fear you'll suffer from and the better your skill will be.
Sure, it's good to know build orders before actually playing the game but you'll be lucky to win a game of SC2 off build orders alone. Even then, you still need to practice build orders for them to really be of any use.

Remember White-Ra guys: 'If you want to make one goal to win, you must lose'.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 01:25:47
January 04 2013 01:24 GMT
#1222
On January 04 2013 09:29 CatNzHat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 08:53 Alryk wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:45 obesechicken13 wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:40 unit wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:34 obesechicken13 wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:10 HornyHerring wrote:
Dunno why but every time I see this thread in the sidenavbar it reads "Dating, how's your dick?"

No normal person knows what that thing is called by its real name? Who are you and what do you do?!

he is HornyHerring
and he distracts you from all horny thread topics by throwing you a red herring
though you went for the one he didn't intentionally place there for you

in all seriousness, plenty of people know that it's a sidenavbar, makes sense doesn't it? side (it's on the side of your content), navigation(it helps you navigate the website), bar(well it is a bar isn't it?)

Well yes, it seems to make sense but no one would just guess that's what its called. He has to work with the web in some way or just felt bored and opened up developer tools. I'd call it a sidenavmenu since it's actually more like a menu than a bar.

Personally, it seems more like a column with multiple rows to me, but sidenavcolumnrows might be harder to say. ^^


If you're referring to the entire left column, it is just a sidebar, it has no class or id attribute associated with it as far as I can tell, however each individual section within that sidebar has a class="sidemenu"

In a response to the OP, my first thought is that you either had no clue who this person was before the date, or you were just hoping they were smart and nice when you really knew otherwise. Either way, unless it was a blind date or you spun a wheel or rolled dice to decide who you were going out with, luck had nothing to do with it. You chose to go on a date with a person, and apparently expected something different than what you got. You need to work on reading people or avoid blind dates.



Haha I'm just being dumb/joking on purpose, I'm enjoying my break too much to care about the technical terms just yet.

On January 04 2013 10:23 Absentia wrote:
A useful analogy for approaching girls really is like getting over Starcraft ladder fear. You don't get good at Starcraft by hovering the mouse over the Find Match button and then going to play UMS. Just hit the damn Find Match button.

You might lose and feel like an idiot but at the same time it's a learning experience. As you play more, the less ladder fear you'll suffer from and the better your skill will be.
Sure, it's good to know build orders before actually playing the game but you'll be lucky to win a game of SC2 off build orders alone. Even then, you still need to practice build orders for them to really be of any use.

Remember White-Ra guys: 'If you want to make one goal to win, you must lose'.


Haha I love this. Good analogy ^^
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
January 04 2013 01:24 GMT
#1223
On January 04 2013 10:23 Absentia wrote:
A useful analogy for approaching girls really is like getting over Starcraft ladder fear. You don't get good at Starcraft by hovering the mouse over the Find Match button and then going to play UMS. Just hit the damn Find Match button.

You might lose and feel like an idiot but at the same time it's a learning experience. As you play more, the less ladder fear you'll suffer from and the better your skill will be.
Sure, it's good to know build orders before actually playing the game but you'll be lucky to win a game of SC2 off build orders alone. Even then, you still need to practice build orders for them to really be of any use.

Remember White-Ra guys: 'If you want to make one goal to win, you must lose'.


Good analogy I approve.

Thumbs up.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
drowisimba
Profile Joined December 2012
65 Posts
January 04 2013 01:29 GMT
#1224
On January 04 2013 10:19 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 10:02 drowisimba wrote:
See, this is what I mean.

I'm battling people that can't comprehend things. You make your posts that you think has relevance, but hasn't. This is why I can't stand people. This is why being smart sucks, because you don't really belong anywhere. You see holes in people's reasoning, and you cannot explain it to them because they will not understand. It's a bit annoying...

Goodbye.

This is why being smarter sucks... you see holes in people's reasoning, and you cannot explain it to them because they will not understand. It's a bit annoying...

Dude, shut the fuck up, my IQ is 143 and it's probably my most attractive point. You're just a raging loser and that turns people off more than you being smart can turn them on.


I've never said I don't get girls because I'm too smart. I don't get girls because I'm ugly (when I was 15 I got in a car accident and got some nasty burns on my face).

See, I'm just giving tips because even though I'm a loser and all that I know things. I know girls don't look for smart guys.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 01:33:13
January 04 2013 01:31 GMT
#1225
for all x

if x is a girl

AND

for all A()

if A(x)

THEN

for all y

if y is a girl

THEN

A(y)

drow's theorem
shikata ga nai
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
January 04 2013 01:32 GMT
#1226
That's sad but that doesn't excuse being such a prick.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Sqwrl.
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany18 Posts
January 04 2013 01:33 GMT
#1227
omg, I randomly saw this thread in the ticker and looked in out of curiosity, but rezoacken just made my day with his comments on the last pages! xD
I'm feeling much better, even though I haven't been into dating this much for some months now.
• When life gives you lemons, make apple juice and have people wonder how the hell you did it.
drowisimba
Profile Joined December 2012
65 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 01:37:39
January 04 2013 01:34 GMT
#1228
On January 04 2013 10:32 rezoacken wrote:
That's sad but that doesn't excuse being such a prick.


I gave my advice and you started trolling me. Who's the prick?

edit: But you have the moderators on your side even though you're the ones trolling, so I should probably leave. I got a warning and a message from a moderator who even trolled me in PM, telling me to post my complaints in a thread that doesn't exist, and to report your posts using a function that doesn't exist.

Cool job as usual, TL mods.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
January 04 2013 01:37 GMT
#1229
On January 04 2013 10:34 drowisimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 10:32 rezoacken wrote:
That's sad but that doesn't excuse being such a prick.


I gave my advice and you started trolling me. Who's the prick?

Your advice is "I know girls don't look for smart guys." - which is terrible advice. You keep repeating that as if it was a mantra, it's not. It's bullshit.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
drowisimba
Profile Joined December 2012
65 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 01:43:21
January 04 2013 01:42 GMT
#1230
On January 04 2013 10:37 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 10:34 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:32 rezoacken wrote:
That's sad but that doesn't excuse being such a prick.


I gave my advice and you started trolling me. Who's the prick?

Your advice is "I know girls don't look for smart guys." - which is terrible advice. You keep repeating that as if it was a mantra, it's not. It's bullshit.


That wasn't really the advice. I made a big post that explains my reasoning.

And no, it's not bullshit. Men around 95-105 IQ get way, way, way more girls than men that are 140+. It's just fact. Smart people tend to get pretty boring hobbies, or at least hobbies that don't attract the median people (which most people are, for obvious reasons). They also tend to have anti-social behaviors.

sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 04 2013 01:43 GMT
#1231
you're confusing statistical tendency with direct causation, is the point
shikata ga nai
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
January 04 2013 01:44 GMT
#1232
On January 04 2013 10:42 drowisimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 10:37 r.Evo wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:34 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:32 rezoacken wrote:
That's sad but that doesn't excuse being such a prick.


I gave my advice and you started trolling me. Who's the prick?

Your advice is "I know girls don't look for smart guys." - which is terrible advice. You keep repeating that as if it was a mantra, it's not. It's bullshit.


That wasn't really the advice. I made a big post that explains my reasoning.

And no, it's not bullshit. Men around 95-105 IQ get way, way, way more girls than men that are 140+. It's just fact. Smart people tend to get pretty boring hobbies, or at least hobbies that don't attract the median people (which most people are, for obvious reasons). They also tend to have anti-social behaviors.



Don't overthink things smart people can pull mad hot ladies.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
urSa
Profile Joined July 2011
United States77 Posts
January 04 2013 01:45 GMT
#1233
well I've always always been realllly introverted and I've moved every 3 years so I haven't had a close group of friends...but I've heard i'm somewhat good looking (?) and I work out more than I should so my body's there haha (plus i'm 5'11- a whole inch above average ) ...anyways I've had a few one night stand kinda things but never a relationship...which is really what I want. (to make things worse- during the one night stands I was so nervous I couldn't really feel anything "down there" so I had to fake an orgasm hahaha). Soooo...ya....I'm banking on a 4 year college I'm transferring to (I'm 20 btw).
drowisimba
Profile Joined December 2012
65 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 01:45:47
January 04 2013 01:45 GMT
#1234
On January 04 2013 10:43 sam!zdat wrote:
you're confusing statistical tendency with direct causation, is the point


No. I explained the statistical tendency. There is causality. It would be obvious to you, if you weren't so politically corrrect.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
January 04 2013 01:50 GMT
#1235
Maybe if you're smarter you get more picky.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 01:51:46
January 04 2013 01:50 GMT
#1236
On January 04 2013 10:45 drowisimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 10:43 sam!zdat wrote:
you're confusing statistical tendency with direct causation, is the point


No. I explained the statistical tendency. There is causality. It would be obvious to you, if you weren't so politically corrrect.


it's funny how you know absolutely nothing about me

the point is we think your explanation is what we call in the business "bullshit"

of course if you are smart you are going to face some special obstacles when it comes to dating. saying that therefore "girls don't like smart guys" is puerile
shikata ga nai
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
January 04 2013 01:51 GMT
#1237
On January 04 2013 10:45 urSa wrote:
well I've always always been realllly introverted and I've moved every 3 years so I haven't had a close group of friends...but I've heard i'm somewhat good looking (?) and I work out more than I should so my body's there haha (plus i'm 5'11- a whole inch above average ) ...anyways I've had a few one night stand kinda things but never a relationship...which is really what I want. (to make things worse- during the one night stands I was so nervous I couldn't really feel anything "down there" so I had to fake an orgasm hahaha). Soooo...ya....I'm banking on a 4 year college I'm transferring to (I'm 20 btw).


My advice is to bond with a group of guys. Counter-intuitive, yes.

My story is about a guy who was socially oblivious until later college, would blow easy chances with nice ladies and have very big personal boundries.

A group a guys to bond with is what changed my behavior, that and Californication (TV) and Incubus (fucking love dig atm). You stop giving a shit and having fun, which builds you up. Then you are prime for a relationship with a lady. The thing with relationships is about learning about the lady, and bonding. Good conversation skills you build with your boys helps.

Also when you have 6 people in a room in a massive orgy, you will recognize that sometimes your boys can be your best wingmen.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
drowisimba
Profile Joined December 2012
65 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 01:53:56
January 04 2013 01:52 GMT
#1238
On January 04 2013 10:50 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 10:45 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:43 sam!zdat wrote:
you're confusing statistical tendency with direct causation, is the point


No. I explained the statistical tendency. There is causality. It would be obvious to you, if you weren't so politically corrrect.


it's funny how you know absolutely nothing about me

the point is we think your explanation is what we call in the business "bullshit"

of course if you are smart you are going to face some special obstacles when it comes to dating. saying that therefore "girls don't like smart guys" is puerile


Well, you haven't pointed to a single reason why. You just post your stupid bullshit over and over again. Get lost.

To realize why I'm right you just have to realize the following:

1) Smart people tend to be more introverted than dumber people.

2) Introverted people tend to get laid less than extroverted people.

Done and done.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
January 04 2013 01:55 GMT
#1239
On January 04 2013 10:52 drowisimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 10:50 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:45 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:43 sam!zdat wrote:
you're confusing statistical tendency with direct causation, is the point


No. I explained the statistical tendency. There is causality. It would be obvious to you, if you weren't so politically corrrect.


it's funny how you know absolutely nothing about me

the point is we think your explanation is what we call in the business "bullshit"

of course if you are smart you are going to face some special obstacles when it comes to dating. saying that therefore "girls don't like smart guys" is puerile


Well, you haven't pointed to a single reason why. You just post your stupid bullshit over and over again. Get lost.


Actually, you're the only person posting the same stupid statement over and over again :/ being smart does not make one 'less attractive', but smart people usually do have higher standards (and many 'smart' people often have other truly negative attributes like lacking in social skills, having a terrible taste in clothing and whatnot).
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 02:07:34
January 04 2013 01:56 GMT
#1240
On January 04 2013 10:02 drowisimba wrote:
See, this is what I mean.

I'm battling people that can't comprehend things. You make your posts that you think has relevance, but hasn't. This is why I can't stand people. This is why being smart sucks, because you don't really belong anywhere. You see holes in people's reasoning, and you cannot explain it to them because they will not understand. It's a bit annoying...

Goodbye.


The irony is the grammar error. No need to be so antagonistic.

Also: Being smart does not make you less attractive. Correlation does not mean causality.

You say that smart people tend to be more introverted, and introverted people tend to get laid less.

My counter would be:

Cat owners tend to be richer than dog owners. College Grads tend to make more money. Republicans tend to be happier than democrats. This doesn't mean that there is a relationship between being a cat owner and making more money. Correlation does not mean causality, like I said. There is almost always an alternate explanation for a seeming "correlation" between two things.

Rather than stating that "Smart people are introverted, and introverts don't get laid, therefore smart people don't get laid," you're assuming two things first of all. One: All smart people are introverted, and two: smart people aren't attracted to each other, and are instead attracted to "dumb" people. Assuming there is a relatively even distribution of the smart people between men and women (unless you're sexist and want to say women/men are uniformly dumb), it is logical (even by your logic, assuming people are rational and want to get laid, therefore they'll seek people who want them) to assume that smart people would be attracted to other smart people. Meaning smart people still are definitely attractive.
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