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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 01:04:22
January 04 2013 01:01 GMT
#1201
On January 04 2013 09:37 drowisimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 08:58 sam!zdat wrote:
everything is illuminated


Heh. You don't know anything of the world and you never will. But enjoy your normal, 100 IQ life. I'm sure you will. Mediocre people do really have it best.


Hey man relax. No need to go apeshit over everything is illuminated.


On January 04 2013 09:59 deathgod6 wrote:
This thread is interesting. Hopefully people will help each other out and give confidence to those who are not as suave.


People lack confidence because they focus on sex while going after a woman which makes them nervous because if they fail they will never have sex with said woman.

Confidence is not caring about sex, rather caring about the girl and learning about her. Sex flows naturally once you have built up a good dialog with the girl and have made at least some attempt to understand her.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
drowisimba
Profile Joined December 2012
65 Posts
January 04 2013 01:02 GMT
#1202
See, this is what I mean.

I'm battling people that can't comprehend things. You make your posts that you think has relevance, but hasn't. This is why I can't stand people. This is why being smart sucks, because you don't really belong anywhere. You see holes in people's reasoning, and you cannot explain it to them because they will not understand. It's a bit annoying...

Goodbye.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
January 04 2013 01:02 GMT
#1203
Don't worry, everything is illuminated.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 01:04:55
January 04 2013 01:04 GMT
#1204
Oh man this is killing me xD

New sig.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
January 04 2013 01:04 GMT
#1205
Posts have relevance. Not has.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
TotalNightmare
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany139 Posts
January 04 2013 01:04 GMT
#1206
Recently found out that my big thing are crazy chicks. Wish me luck.
"That's like somone walking into YOUR house and putting a plant down on the table and starting to water it. While he shoots you with a gun!" - Day9
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
January 04 2013 01:06 GMT
#1207
On January 04 2013 10:04 TotalNightmare wrote:
Recently found out that my big thing are crazy chicks. Wish me luck.


I recently found out that my crazy thing are big chicks.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
January 04 2013 01:07 GMT
#1208
This thread just keeps getting trollier

On January 04 2013 10:04 rezoacken wrote:
Oh man this is killing me xD

New sig.


Lol am I the only one who doesn't know what that is? Google says some movie but I'm not sure.

On January 04 2013 10:04 TotalNightmare wrote:
Recently found out that my big thing are crazy chicks. Wish me luck.


Good luck buddy, crazy chicks are fun. Their outbursts are quirky and cute.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
drowisimba
Profile Joined December 2012
65 Posts
January 04 2013 01:09 GMT
#1209
On January 04 2013 10:04 deathgod6 wrote:
Posts have relevance. Not has.


On January 04 2013 10:04 rezoacken wrote:
Oh man this is killing me xD

New sig.


On January 04 2013 10:02 deathgod6 wrote:
Don't worry, everything is illuminated.


All these posts are banworthy for trolling, but of course the moderators will look the other way as usual.

User was warned for this post
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
January 04 2013 01:11 GMT
#1210
The mods are illuminated I heard
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 04 2013 01:13 GMT
#1211
On January 04 2013 10:09 drowisimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 10:04 deathgod6 wrote:
Posts have relevance. Not has.


Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 10:04 rezoacken wrote:
Oh man this is killing me xD

New sig.


Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 10:02 deathgod6 wrote:
Don't worry, everything is illuminated.


All these posts are banworthy for trolling, but of course the moderators will look the other way as usual.


I thought you left?

Ah, gtfo
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
January 04 2013 01:13 GMT
#1212
I'm sleep deprived and thought this was the hobbit discussion thread. I got so confused by this last page. :o

On-topic, why is it that girls use make-up which causes you to get a disgusting feeling in your mouth after kissing so that you want to spit or brush your teeth or so?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
drowisimba
Profile Joined December 2012
65 Posts
January 04 2013 01:13 GMT
#1213
Oh look, you found some words you can use that other people also use! You feel like you BELONG!

Sheep.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
January 04 2013 01:13 GMT
#1214
On January 04 2013 08:58 phipsL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 07:54 r.Evo wrote:
On January 04 2013 07:34 phipsL wrote:
On January 04 2013 00:17 ShrieK wrote:
On January 03 2013 23:52 phipsL wrote:
Bad Luck only. I am 18 still virgin and never had a relationship because for some reason every girl friendzones me and says things like "if only my boyfriend was like you"

esports and my computer are the only things i need... and my bed.

It's not bad luck.. figure out the reason why they do that and fix it.


thats harder than it sounds because i dont really know what im doing wrong. For example the last girl i was texting with. I met her in hospital (she was one of my patients and i am a male nurse) and she randomly gave me her number. After a week or so she said "yeah, of course i want to meet you again, thats why i gave you my number" and then another week later i asked her when we could meet. She replied with "i dont know, it depends on the weather" which for me seems like a very questionable answer and more like bad excuse because i dont know about the weather in america or so but in germany its kinda bad at the moment, so it would take a few months till the weather gets good again. And i dont really want to run after somebody who gives such a stupid answer. Maybe thats my mistake but i dont think thats an answer a woman would give if she'd actually wanted me to run after her.

"Randomly gave me her number" ~ She had bigger balls than you.


"When can we meet?" suggest that you try to push the responsibility on her. Suggest a date & place, if she rejects jokingly make her suggest the next round.

"I don't know, it depends on the weather" -> "Oh, you're sugar? / You only have like two sets of clothes?" -> Suggest date & place.



1) don't have balls, and probably never gonna get some. also i thought about asking for her number but didnt because i thought i'd be dumb, i mean, who asks someone who he barely saw (and by barely i mean like, only 3 times or so and we didnt even talk) for her number?

2) didnt want to push the responsibility on her, but i don't care about such things like time. i make time for dates or meetings. she says a day i ask my work if i can have a day off that day...

3) yep that answer was stupid, but again, i have no balls to say something like that

I'll just respond here instead of answering your PM, I prefer to keep these things in the actual thread/blog, otherwise I tend to get flooded and end up ignoring at least half of it. =P

1) Maybe, just maybe she just thought you're cute.

2) That's a good point. If I'm a girl who is into you and you could make time no matter what I'm asking off you you already seem boring in most cases. It makes questions like "Does that guy have a life? Why would he throw around plans just to see me without even knowing me?" pop up. Not that cool.


The generic "how to get balls?"-topic is a more complicated one. In theory there are two main approaches: "Fake it till you make it" and "Work on your actual issues first"

The former tends to be more spread in the American dating scene, the latter is more of an European thing. In practice both have flaws and merits. Do you really have time to date that girl 24/7 in a week because you have no single hobby that's important to you? a) Pretend you do and say "Uhh... I only have time this thursday, otherwise we'll have to wait till next week." or b) Find new hobbies until you actually DO run into scheduling problems.

If you overdo a) you end up as the literal social robot lying all over the place, if you overdo b) you end up never doing anything dating related because there's always something you can improve. As usual, balance is key.


Probably the best thing I can tell you at this stage is that whoever told you that confidence is a prerequisite to being successful with women (or anything for that matter) is a dumbass. Confidence is a result of being competent, not a prerequisite. Your goal should be to build competence, not confidence - that stuff will show up all by itself with you barely noticing it.

So, how do you build competence? How would you build competence in SC2? In math? In a language? You do the activities repeatedly, you hang with people better than you and absorb what they're doing, and you reflect on your mistakes and try to avoid them in the future.

In practice that means starting small. Tell your bus driver that you think it's cool that he's on time. Tell that book clerk that she saved your day. Tell that sales clerk that her outfit looks gorgeous. Interact with people in general, get comfortable interacting with them. Those are pretty much the first and easiest steps to gaining social competence. Once you feel you have those basics build up, go for the next steps - start talking to women who catch your eye. Just talk. Don't even think about getting their numbers. Have a short small talk, wish them a nice day and move on. Next step? Getting their numbers. Continue down the obvious line till you get what you initially wanted.

Sure, there are some shortcuts here and there if you have more proper guidance but that's pretty much the "do it yourself"-way in a nutshell. Improve your social skills, work from there towards improving your skills with women.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 04 2013 01:15 GMT
#1215
the first step is to get illuminated.

seriously, if you walk around in the dark all the time how the fuck bitches gonna SEE you??
shikata ga nai
CYFAWS
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden275 Posts
January 04 2013 01:16 GMT
#1216
just (last week) got dumped by my stupid annoying sexy as fuck girl, man am i happy
we never liked each other for real and now i don't have to put up with her bullshit anymore
and i was sleeping with other people behind her back anyway so sexwise, i'm ok too
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 04 2013 01:19 GMT
#1217
On January 04 2013 10:02 drowisimba wrote:
See, this is what I mean.

I'm battling people that can't comprehend things. You make your posts that you think has relevance, but hasn't. This is why I can't stand people. This is why being smart sucks, because you don't really belong anywhere. You see holes in people's reasoning, and you cannot explain it to them because they will not understand. It's a bit annoying...

Goodbye.

This is why being smarter sucks... you see holes in people's reasoning, and you cannot explain it to them because they will not understand. It's a bit annoying...

Dude, shut the fuck up, my IQ is 143 and it's probably my most attractive point. You're just a raging loser and that turns people off more than you being smart can turn them on.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 01:21:25
January 04 2013 01:19 GMT
#1218
On January 04 2013 10:13 Grumbels wrote:
I'm sleep deprived and thought this was the hobbit discussion thread. I got so confused by this last page. :o

On-topic, why is it that girls use make-up which causes you to get a disgusting feeling in your mouth after kissing so that you want to spit or brush your teeth or so?


Because girls do dumb things thinking they'll get sexier.

Ever heard of men doing some stupid shit too:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]http://img.izismile.com/img/img2/20090629/douchebag_49.jpg


When you go out with such a girl, tell her it sucks.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
January 04 2013 01:21 GMT
#1219
@phipsL: try talking to strangers every day. Doesn't have to be a conversation or anything, nor does it have to be with girls - just comment on the weather to the old lady walking her dog outside your house, complain about the growing gas prices at the fuel pump, ask a random guy in a checkout queue if he saw the latest movie release. It'll feel scary and awkward as hell, but just realize that you probably won't see, or at least won't talk to any of these people again any time soon and it really makes 0 difference to your life whether they think you're weird, creepy, or trying too hard to be cute. Make a point to do it every day, don't go to bed until you've actually spoke to someone; dial a random number on your phone and ask if Alex still lives there before sleep if you have to, but make sure you say something to a stranger, every day. After a few weeks, it'll feel natural - and you'll be a lot more relaxed when talking to someone you're actually interested in, too.
Jesushooves
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada553 Posts
January 04 2013 01:22 GMT
#1220
I am tired of shit like this on the internet. "Girls don't like me because I am intelligent", "Girls don't like me because I am nice", etc are silly statements that clearly show how little the speaker knows about women/girls. Being treated badly is not going to make her love you, nor is being an arrogant prick. Being nice is how I got all my girlfriends, and my current one is particularly attracted to me because she thinks I am so smart.

This isn't meant to brag, this is more of a PSA, because you think you are being nice, but you are not. You think you are very smart, but you are not. You think you know everything, but you do not. Once you start admitting your silly assumptions, of which at one point I will admit I was the kind to do so similarly, you can start to just be yourself and with a bit of confidence you can get a girl.

/rant
Lose its good, after will be win.
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