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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
January 04 2013 02:23 GMT
#1261
You're all being hardcore trolled by a guy named "drowisimba" with 39 posts. Come on guys...

+1 drow
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 04 2013 02:25 GMT
#1262
Let's just face it, drow: you're not as smart as you think you are and you have extremely self-limiting beliefs.

Go on arguing about how being smart puts you sooooooo far behind everyone else in terms of dating potential or STFU, admit you're wrong, and change your depressing life for the better.

I mean, I hope you do well in life in spite of our disagreement and I think you can change your personal beliefs to do so because really, it's not that hard, you just have to let go of all of your pent-up years of bitterness and spite.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
drowisimba
Profile Joined December 2012
65 Posts
January 04 2013 02:27 GMT
#1263
On January 04 2013 11:22 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 11:20 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:17 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:42 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:37 r.Evo wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:34 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:32 rezoacken wrote:
That's sad but that doesn't excuse being such a prick.


I gave my advice and you started trolling me. Who's the prick?

Your advice is "I know girls don't look for smart guys." - which is terrible advice. You keep repeating that as if it was a mantra, it's not. It's bullshit.


That wasn't really the advice. I made a big post that explains my reasoning.

And no, it's not bullshit. Men around 95-105 IQ get way, way, way more girls than men that are 140+. It's just fact. Smart people tend to get pretty boring hobbies, or at least hobbies that don't attract the median people (which most people are, for obvious reasons). They also tend to have anti-social behaviors.


Where are your data for this "fact" because as far as I can tell you're just extrapolating your personal observations which are SUPER TINGED with your insane personal bias.

Like, none of what you posted is "fact", it's just stuff that you've confirmed through imperfect personal observation and experience. I tend to find the exact opposite, but I'm not going to go around spewing that my opinions and self-tendencies are FACT.


I'm sure there are lots of studies confirming this. I would have thought it was a pretty obvious concept, and easy to realize, but I guess not.

I asked you to provide support for your statement of "fact"

You said "it's obvious duh"

real


It's up to you to study it if you're interested. I know it for a fact, and was just sharing that fact. I'm not obligated to find you anything.

And yes, it is obvious. Just look around you, man. Who are getting laid the most, the mathematicians?

On January 04 2013 11:21 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 11:15 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:10 r.Evo wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:06 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:57 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:52 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:50 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:45 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:43 sam!zdat wrote:
you're confusing statistical tendency with direct causation, is the point


No. I explained the statistical tendency. There is causality. It would be obvious to you, if you weren't so politically corrrect.


it's funny how you know absolutely nothing about me

the point is we think your explanation is what we call in the business "bullshit"

of course if you are smart you are going to face some special obstacles when it comes to dating. saying that therefore "girls don't like smart guys" is puerile


Well, you haven't pointed to a single reason why. You just post your stupid bullshit over and over again. Get lost.

To realize why I'm right you just have to realize the following:

1) Smart people tend to be more introverted than dumber people.

2) Introverted people tend to get laid less than extroverted people.

Done and done.


see now you are just trumpeting your correlation causation fallacy and feeling self-righteous about it


What?

Do you even know what you're saying? Have you just learned the correlation-is-not-causation-fallacy and think it applies to everything?

Fact remains: Smart people tend to be introverted, and introverted people tend to get laid less.

I mean, it's not that controversial, is it?

Smart people also tend to be able to analyze & solve complex situations more efficiently and recognize emerging patterns better than "dumber" people.

Pretty much all pioneers of the modern PUA scene for example got their form of success by, well... being huge fucking nerds about it.


I guess so, but it's not a complex issue getting a girl or getting laid (if you're not thinking about it, which smart people tend to do too much).

Yeah, it's totally not a complex issue, and that's why you've never bothered to deal with it?

Come on, dude, just accept that there's something else holding you back besides "being smart", which should OBVIOUSLY BE AN ADVANTAGE.


No idea what you're on about. I'm not talking about myself. I have never ever claimed that my being smart is holding me back. It's not, even though I would probably be a happier person if I was dumber. But that's another topic.
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
January 04 2013 02:28 GMT
#1264
failed in my last attempt, before it even started. lol
AKMU / IU
Mstring
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia510 Posts
January 04 2013 02:28 GMT
#1265
On January 04 2013 11:04 drowisimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 11:00 Mstring wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:02 drowisimba wrote:
See, this is what I mean.

I'm battling people that can't comprehend things. You make your posts that you think has relevance, but hasn't. This is why I can't stand people. This is why being smart sucks, because you don't really belong anywhere. You see holes in people's reasoning, and you cannot explain it to them because they will not understand. It's a bit annoying...

Goodbye.


What value is there in trying to put people down by insulting their intelligence or knowledge, or calling them "sheep"? What does the world gain? What do you gain? It seems to me you are only achieving for yourself annoyance and frustration. Smartness is far, far more than an IQ test.


I was being trolled and got angry. That's all.


I asked for you to analyse the outcome of your action not for a reason or excuse. We have no impetus to change our inputs unless we intelligently analyse the outcomes of our behaviors. Smart people have an enormous advantage here. If you haven't habituated such a feedback loop in the realm of a internet forum then what do you think your chances are with women where there's a million times the emotional ante?
drowisimba
Profile Joined December 2012
65 Posts
January 04 2013 02:29 GMT
#1266
On January 04 2013 11:25 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Let's just face it, drow: you're not as smart as you think you are and you have extremely self-limiting beliefs.

Go on arguing about how being smart puts you sooooooo far behind everyone else in terms of dating potential or STFU, admit you're wrong, and change your depressing life for the better.

I mean, I hope you do well in life in spite of our disagreement and I think you can change your personal beliefs to do so because really, it's not that hard, you just have to let go of all of your pent-up years of bitterness and spite.


You may believe whatever you want about my cleverness. It's really not the least bit interesting to me what you think.

You have completely misunderstood the discussion. I have not said anything you claim that I have said.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
January 04 2013 02:30 GMT
#1267
Where are the data to support the claim that girls don't like smart guys?

There are loads of stupid or average intellect guys who fail at getting girls, in my experience the common thing failures share is a lack of confidence, not a presence of superior intellect.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 04 2013 02:31 GMT
#1268
On January 04 2013 11:27 drowisimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 11:22 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:20 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:17 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:42 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:37 r.Evo wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:34 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:32 rezoacken wrote:
That's sad but that doesn't excuse being such a prick.


I gave my advice and you started trolling me. Who's the prick?

Your advice is "I know girls don't look for smart guys." - which is terrible advice. You keep repeating that as if it was a mantra, it's not. It's bullshit.


That wasn't really the advice. I made a big post that explains my reasoning.

And no, it's not bullshit. Men around 95-105 IQ get way, way, way more girls than men that are 140+. It's just fact. Smart people tend to get pretty boring hobbies, or at least hobbies that don't attract the median people (which most people are, for obvious reasons). They also tend to have anti-social behaviors.


Where are your data for this "fact" because as far as I can tell you're just extrapolating your personal observations which are SUPER TINGED with your insane personal bias.

Like, none of what you posted is "fact", it's just stuff that you've confirmed through imperfect personal observation and experience. I tend to find the exact opposite, but I'm not going to go around spewing that my opinions and self-tendencies are FACT.


I'm sure there are lots of studies confirming this. I would have thought it was a pretty obvious concept, and easy to realize, but I guess not.

I asked you to provide support for your statement of "fact"

You said "it's obvious duh"

real


It's up to you to study it if you're interested. I know it for a fact, and was just sharing that fact. I'm not obligated to find you anything.

And yes, it is obvious. Just look around you, man. Who are getting laid the most, the mathematicians?

Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 11:21 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:15 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:10 r.Evo wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:06 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:57 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:52 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:50 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:45 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:43 sam!zdat wrote:
you're confusing statistical tendency with direct causation, is the point


No. I explained the statistical tendency. There is causality. It would be obvious to you, if you weren't so politically corrrect.


it's funny how you know absolutely nothing about me

the point is we think your explanation is what we call in the business "bullshit"

of course if you are smart you are going to face some special obstacles when it comes to dating. saying that therefore "girls don't like smart guys" is puerile


Well, you haven't pointed to a single reason why. You just post your stupid bullshit over and over again. Get lost.

To realize why I'm right you just have to realize the following:

1) Smart people tend to be more introverted than dumber people.

2) Introverted people tend to get laid less than extroverted people.

Done and done.


see now you are just trumpeting your correlation causation fallacy and feeling self-righteous about it


What?

Do you even know what you're saying? Have you just learned the correlation-is-not-causation-fallacy and think it applies to everything?

Fact remains: Smart people tend to be introverted, and introverted people tend to get laid less.

I mean, it's not that controversial, is it?

Smart people also tend to be able to analyze & solve complex situations more efficiently and recognize emerging patterns better than "dumber" people.

Pretty much all pioneers of the modern PUA scene for example got their form of success by, well... being huge fucking nerds about it.


I guess so, but it's not a complex issue getting a girl or getting laid (if you're not thinking about it, which smart people tend to do too much).

Yeah, it's totally not a complex issue, and that's why you've never bothered to deal with it?

Come on, dude, just accept that there's something else holding you back besides "being smart", which should OBVIOUSLY BE AN ADVANTAGE.


No idea what you're on about. I'm not talking about myself. I have never ever claimed that my being smart is holding me back. It's not, even though I would probably be a happier person if I was dumber. But that's another topic.

What I'm saying is that as a psychologist studying for my doctorate I don't just take casual assumptions as social tendency without documented data because that kind of thinking is what gets you into huge shit and makes you look like a total dumbass when your obvious assumption is proven wrong.

Provide me with ONE source and I'll completely drop it. Until then, don't call it a fact.

You keep saying shit like "fact remains" when you have yet to prove anything.

I think the real issue that's keeping you from getting any kind of social reciprocation from women is that you tend to polarize people against you wherever you go because of your unrealistically over-inflated sense of self-worth.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
drowisimba
Profile Joined December 2012
65 Posts
January 04 2013 02:33 GMT
#1269
On January 04 2013 11:28 Mstring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 11:04 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:00 Mstring wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:02 drowisimba wrote:
See, this is what I mean.

I'm battling people that can't comprehend things. You make your posts that you think has relevance, but hasn't. This is why I can't stand people. This is why being smart sucks, because you don't really belong anywhere. You see holes in people's reasoning, and you cannot explain it to them because they will not understand. It's a bit annoying...

Goodbye.


What value is there in trying to put people down by insulting their intelligence or knowledge, or calling them "sheep"? What does the world gain? What do you gain? It seems to me you are only achieving for yourself annoyance and frustration. Smartness is far, far more than an IQ test.


I was being trolled and got angry. That's all.


I asked for you to analyse the outcome of your action not for a reason or excuse. We have no impetus to change our inputs unless we intelligently analyse the outcomes of our behaviors. Smart people have an enormous advantage here. If you haven't habituated such a feedback loop in the realm of a internet forum then what do you think your chances are with women where there's a million times the emotional ante?


I haven't claimed to be perfect, or that I think my actions are optimal and likely lead to a good outcome.

Just sometimes I want to write whatever I feel to be true, and get dragged into some stupid discussion by trolls. I hate it and I enjoy it.

My chances with women are null.
drowisimba
Profile Joined December 2012
65 Posts
January 04 2013 02:36 GMT
#1270
On January 04 2013 11:30 sc4k wrote:
Where are the data to support the claim that girls don't like smart guys?

There are loads of stupid or average intellect guys who fail at getting girls, in my experience the common thing failures share is a lack of confidence, not a presence of superior intellect.


There are lots of people failing at many things. Not really that interesting.

It was my opinion. I'm sorry that you took it for fact. (The FACT is that smart people get laid less than dumb people).

Also, "The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity", etc. (Regarding confidence).
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18874 Posts
January 04 2013 02:36 GMT
#1271
On January 04 2013 11:33 drowisimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 11:28 Mstring wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:04 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:00 Mstring wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:02 drowisimba wrote:
See, this is what I mean.

I'm battling people that can't comprehend things. You make your posts that you think has relevance, but hasn't. This is why I can't stand people. This is why being smart sucks, because you don't really belong anywhere. You see holes in people's reasoning, and you cannot explain it to them because they will not understand. It's a bit annoying...

Goodbye.


What value is there in trying to put people down by insulting their intelligence or knowledge, or calling them "sheep"? What does the world gain? What do you gain? It seems to me you are only achieving for yourself annoyance and frustration. Smartness is far, far more than an IQ test.


I was being trolled and got angry. That's all.


I asked for you to analyse the outcome of your action not for a reason or excuse. We have no impetus to change our inputs unless we intelligently analyse the outcomes of our behaviors. Smart people have an enormous advantage here. If you haven't habituated such a feedback loop in the realm of a internet forum then what do you think your chances are with women where there's a million times the emotional ante?


I haven't claimed to be perfect, or that I think my actions are optimal and likely lead to a good outcome.

Just sometimes I want to write whatever I feel to be true, and get dragged into some stupid discussion by trolls. I hate it and I enjoy it.

My chances with women are null.

If you don't mind me asking, what makes you say this?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 04 2013 02:36 GMT
#1272
I really think you have an observation bias where because there are many more people in the 100 IQ range than in the 140 IQ range, you see more of them getting laid, when in reality the ratio of 100 IQ range men getting laid to 100 IQ range men not getting laid is exactly the same as 140 IQ range men getting laid to 140 IQ range men not getting laid. Also, because you think you're however smart and not getting laid your personal bias is skewing the conclusion even more.

Provide me with the data or just admit what you're saying might be wrong and not "fact".
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 02:40:21
January 04 2013 02:38 GMT
#1273
On January 04 2013 11:36 drowisimba wrote:
(The FACT is that smart people get laid less than dumb people).

Where is the data to support this FACT?

You're just making shit up again lol.

Like, your definition of "dumb" is "average" and that's why you think you're right. IT'S YOUR PERSONAL BIAS COMING INTO PLAY AGAIN. You think people of average intelligence are soooooooo dumb when in reality you're just being a self-centered dick with an overinflated ego as a defense mechanism to the pain of admitting that in spite of having a high IQ you have no clue how to interact socially with people.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
January 04 2013 02:40 GMT
#1274
To recap: Drow is a 30 year old who has never kissed or had sex because he is ugly from a car crash. He does not get women because smart people are less likely to, and he is a smart person. However, he is speaking generally and never said it applies to him. He wishes to be stupider even though being smart doesn't hold him back and smart people get more money and have better jobs according to him. But that's a different story.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
drowisimba
Profile Joined December 2012
65 Posts
January 04 2013 02:44 GMT
#1275
On January 04 2013 11:31 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 11:27 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:22 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:20 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:17 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:42 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:37 r.Evo wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:34 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:32 rezoacken wrote:
That's sad but that doesn't excuse being such a prick.


I gave my advice and you started trolling me. Who's the prick?

Your advice is "I know girls don't look for smart guys." - which is terrible advice. You keep repeating that as if it was a mantra, it's not. It's bullshit.


That wasn't really the advice. I made a big post that explains my reasoning.

And no, it's not bullshit. Men around 95-105 IQ get way, way, way more girls than men that are 140+. It's just fact. Smart people tend to get pretty boring hobbies, or at least hobbies that don't attract the median people (which most people are, for obvious reasons). They also tend to have anti-social behaviors.


Where are your data for this "fact" because as far as I can tell you're just extrapolating your personal observations which are SUPER TINGED with your insane personal bias.

Like, none of what you posted is "fact", it's just stuff that you've confirmed through imperfect personal observation and experience. I tend to find the exact opposite, but I'm not going to go around spewing that my opinions and self-tendencies are FACT.


I'm sure there are lots of studies confirming this. I would have thought it was a pretty obvious concept, and easy to realize, but I guess not.

I asked you to provide support for your statement of "fact"

You said "it's obvious duh"

real


It's up to you to study it if you're interested. I know it for a fact, and was just sharing that fact. I'm not obligated to find you anything.

And yes, it is obvious. Just look around you, man. Who are getting laid the most, the mathematicians?

On January 04 2013 11:21 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:15 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:10 r.Evo wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:06 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:57 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:52 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:50 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:45 drowisimba wrote:
[quote]

No. I explained the statistical tendency. There is causality. It would be obvious to you, if you weren't so politically corrrect.


it's funny how you know absolutely nothing about me

the point is we think your explanation is what we call in the business "bullshit"

of course if you are smart you are going to face some special obstacles when it comes to dating. saying that therefore "girls don't like smart guys" is puerile


Well, you haven't pointed to a single reason why. You just post your stupid bullshit over and over again. Get lost.

To realize why I'm right you just have to realize the following:

1) Smart people tend to be more introverted than dumber people.

2) Introverted people tend to get laid less than extroverted people.

Done and done.


see now you are just trumpeting your correlation causation fallacy and feeling self-righteous about it


What?

Do you even know what you're saying? Have you just learned the correlation-is-not-causation-fallacy and think it applies to everything?

Fact remains: Smart people tend to be introverted, and introverted people tend to get laid less.

I mean, it's not that controversial, is it?

Smart people also tend to be able to analyze & solve complex situations more efficiently and recognize emerging patterns better than "dumber" people.

Pretty much all pioneers of the modern PUA scene for example got their form of success by, well... being huge fucking nerds about it.


I guess so, but it's not a complex issue getting a girl or getting laid (if you're not thinking about it, which smart people tend to do too much).

Yeah, it's totally not a complex issue, and that's why you've never bothered to deal with it?

Come on, dude, just accept that there's something else holding you back besides "being smart", which should OBVIOUSLY BE AN ADVANTAGE.


No idea what you're on about. I'm not talking about myself. I have never ever claimed that my being smart is holding me back. It's not, even though I would probably be a happier person if I was dumber. But that's another topic.

What I'm saying is that as a psychologist studying for my doctorate I don't just take casual assumptions as social tendency without documented data because that kind of thinking is what gets you into huge shit and makes you look like a total dumbass when your obvious assumption is proven wrong.

Provide me with ONE source and I'll completely drop it. Until then, don't call it a fact.

You keep saying shit like "fact remains" when you have yet to prove anything.

I think the real issue that's keeping you from getting any kind of social reciprocation from women is that you tend to polarize people against you wherever you go because of your unrealistically over-inflated sense of self-worth.


I wasn't speaking to you as a psychologist to another. (Besides, taking casual assumptions as fact is pretty much everything that psychologists do).

Just a question to you: Why do you think the average IQ is the average? Because, evolutionary it's been the best IQ to have.

If you want something to read, here: http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/04/intercourse-and-intelligence.php

Also, feel free to shut up about me. I'm not talking about myself.
Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
January 04 2013 02:44 GMT
#1276
At age 18 only one attempt for a date and got rejected. The sad life of a nerd ;D
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
January 04 2013 02:45 GMT
#1277
On January 04 2013 11:44 drowisimba wrote:
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On January 04 2013 11:31 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:27 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:22 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:20 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:17 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:42 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:37 r.Evo wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:34 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:32 rezoacken wrote:
That's sad but that doesn't excuse being such a prick.


I gave my advice and you started trolling me. Who's the prick?

Your advice is "I know girls don't look for smart guys." - which is terrible advice. You keep repeating that as if it was a mantra, it's not. It's bullshit.


That wasn't really the advice. I made a big post that explains my reasoning.

And no, it's not bullshit. Men around 95-105 IQ get way, way, way more girls than men that are 140+. It's just fact. Smart people tend to get pretty boring hobbies, or at least hobbies that don't attract the median people (which most people are, for obvious reasons). They also tend to have anti-social behaviors.


Where are your data for this "fact" because as far as I can tell you're just extrapolating your personal observations which are SUPER TINGED with your insane personal bias.

Like, none of what you posted is "fact", it's just stuff that you've confirmed through imperfect personal observation and experience. I tend to find the exact opposite, but I'm not going to go around spewing that my opinions and self-tendencies are FACT.


I'm sure there are lots of studies confirming this. I would have thought it was a pretty obvious concept, and easy to realize, but I guess not.

I asked you to provide support for your statement of "fact"

You said "it's obvious duh"

real


It's up to you to study it if you're interested. I know it for a fact, and was just sharing that fact. I'm not obligated to find you anything.

And yes, it is obvious. Just look around you, man. Who are getting laid the most, the mathematicians?

On January 04 2013 11:21 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:15 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:10 r.Evo wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:06 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:57 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:52 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:50 sam!zdat wrote:
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it's funny how you know absolutely nothing about me

the point is we think your explanation is what we call in the business "bullshit"

of course if you are smart you are going to face some special obstacles when it comes to dating. saying that therefore "girls don't like smart guys" is puerile


Well, you haven't pointed to a single reason why. You just post your stupid bullshit over and over again. Get lost.

To realize why I'm right you just have to realize the following:

1) Smart people tend to be more introverted than dumber people.

2) Introverted people tend to get laid less than extroverted people.

Done and done.


see now you are just trumpeting your correlation causation fallacy and feeling self-righteous about it


What?

Do you even know what you're saying? Have you just learned the correlation-is-not-causation-fallacy and think it applies to everything?

Fact remains: Smart people tend to be introverted, and introverted people tend to get laid less.

I mean, it's not that controversial, is it?

Smart people also tend to be able to analyze & solve complex situations more efficiently and recognize emerging patterns better than "dumber" people.

Pretty much all pioneers of the modern PUA scene for example got their form of success by, well... being huge fucking nerds about it.


I guess so, but it's not a complex issue getting a girl or getting laid (if you're not thinking about it, which smart people tend to do too much).

Yeah, it's totally not a complex issue, and that's why you've never bothered to deal with it?

Come on, dude, just accept that there's something else holding you back besides "being smart", which should OBVIOUSLY BE AN ADVANTAGE.


No idea what you're on about. I'm not talking about myself. I have never ever claimed that my being smart is holding me back. It's not, even though I would probably be a happier person if I was dumber. But that's another topic.

What I'm saying is that as a psychologist studying for my doctorate I don't just take casual assumptions as social tendency without documented data because that kind of thinking is what gets you into huge shit and makes you look like a total dumbass when your obvious assumption is proven wrong.

Provide me with ONE source and I'll completely drop it. Until then, don't call it a fact.

You keep saying shit like "fact remains" when you have yet to prove anything.

I think the real issue that's keeping you from getting any kind of social reciprocation from women is that you tend to polarize people against you wherever you go because of your unrealistically over-inflated sense of self-worth.


I wasn't speaking to you as a psychologist to another. (Besides, taking casual assumptions as fact is pretty much everything that psychologists do).

Just a question to you: Why do you think the average IQ is the average? Because, evolutionary it's been the best IQ to have.

If you want something to read, here: http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/04/intercourse-and-intelligence.php

Also, feel free to shut up about me. I'm not talking about myself.

Just like the average height is the average height because, evolutionary, it's been the best height to have.

Right? RIGHT?
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Mstring
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia510 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 02:54:01
January 04 2013 02:46 GMT
#1278
On January 04 2013 11:33 drowisimba wrote:
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On January 04 2013 11:28 Mstring wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:04 drowisimba wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:00 Mstring wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:02 drowisimba wrote:
See, this is what I mean.

I'm battling people that can't comprehend things. You make your posts that you think has relevance, but hasn't. This is why I can't stand people. This is why being smart sucks, because you don't really belong anywhere. You see holes in people's reasoning, and you cannot explain it to them because they will not understand. It's a bit annoying...

Goodbye.


What value is there in trying to put people down by insulting their intelligence or knowledge, or calling them "sheep"? What does the world gain? What do you gain? It seems to me you are only achieving for yourself annoyance and frustration. Smartness is far, far more than an IQ test.


I was being trolled and got angry. That's all.


I asked for you to analyse the outcome of your action not for a reason or excuse. We have no impetus to change our inputs unless we intelligently analyse the outcomes of our behaviors. Smart people have an enormous advantage here. If you haven't habituated such a feedback loop in the realm of a internet forum then what do you think your chances are with women where there's a million times the emotional ante?


I haven't claimed to be perfect, or that I think my actions are optimal and likely lead to a good outcome.

I'm just sharing some thoughts is all. I think you have limiting beliefs and my line of questioning is intended to get you see what I see. If you don't, or don't agree, that's ok!


My chances with women are null.

If you aren't currently the best version of yourself possible, how do you know what you are or aren't capable of in the future? What value is there in even making this statement about yourself? You can't know it's true, it can only hold you back from change.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2013 02:47 GMT
#1279
I got dumped on New Year's.

Time to make shit happen.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
January 04 2013 02:48 GMT
#1280
I feel you Pucca, the important part is that you asked her.

Drow, I don't think you are a good representative of all intelligent introverts regarding dating. So if you aren't talking about yourself, stop generalizing everyone else please.
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