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I think a big problem when your young (18-25ish) is that men looking for love, will generally be pretty happy with what they get, but women realize they look better then they ever will in their life (probably) and they want to continue shopping around.
I used to think it was a maturity issue. That although women claim to be more mature at an earlier age, they generally tend to act well...slutty. Now I am obviously generalizing and you can't throw an entire gender into one category, but we can make ascersions from our experience. And that is, nice guys finish last because they make it too easy for women to leave or use them, and younger women tend to live more lose, because they don't want to just settle for "ok".
Nice guys do get the girl at the end of the movie, but unfortunately life isn't a 1.5 hour event. Nice guys will eventually get a nice woman as long as they get out there. There are plenty of nice women looking for relationships as well. It just tends to be later in life than we hope or expect. Also as someone mentioned earlier, when you are young you are still learning who you truly are. Believe me, it is very easy to turn into someone you are not when you try to be in a serious relationship to soon.
Patience is the best attribute when it comes to dating, so don't put pressure on yourself to find that someone, especially if it's for the wrong reasons.
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Only had one girlfriend, wich to be honest was one of the worst experiences I've had, she played around with me so much that she made me an emotionless zombie.
I don't want anything to do with relationships or dating anymore. Those were the worst months of my life (yet).
I have no problems meeting girls though, I'm friendly with them and all and I occationally will go out with them (no date though, mostly I just ask them to come with me to buy stuff, CDs, Games, anything), and now I might even stop talking to them altogether, a group of people from my school are starting retarded rumours about me and another a girl who I barely know, she got pissed off with me because of the rumours, I told her "Fine, I don't care, I guess you just can't be friendly with people without having dumb rumours being thrown out".
*phew* this feels like some kind of rant, but hell, I actually enjoy more being this way.
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One time I went with a girl i met at a club to her house.....turns out it was a guy.
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On October 11 2011 01:53 FJ wrote:
One time I went with a girl i met at a club to her house.....turns out it was a guy.
it's a trap!
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I guess I'll share some of my experiences as well, I hope you guys won't mind my terrible english and writing skills.
Not counting the crush I had when I was 8, there have been 3 girls in my life so far.
A small background about me: I'm currently 19 years old, I'm smart, nerdy, pretty introverted and a "nice guy".
In the first 3 years of middle school (I was 12-15 then) I was in a class with 9 guys and 20 girls. All of us guys we're quite nerdy, and frankly, we all behaved like sarcastic assholes both towards eachother and towards the girls, but even though we were assholes we were also friends. And since all 9 of us were insecure nerds, girls were kind of a taboo. We never talked about them, suggesting someone had a crush on a girl was basicly an insult. We also decided that every girl in our class was ugly.
Now the catch was that I never actually agreed much on this. Peer pressure made me go along though. I didn't have any other friends, so what could I have done? I made an exception though. There was a smoking hot blond girl in our class. She was so nice and so beautiful. Basicly perfect in my eyes. I had a crush on her for aaaages. But since it was such a taboo in our group of friends I just did nothing about it for about a year.
Then when the next schoolyear started I decided to change things up a little. Since the tables in our class rooms were arranged in rows of 2, there was always 1 guy sitting alone, usually behind the rest of the guys, at one side of the classroom. This time was different though. I came in late, and the blond girl, lets call her L, she was sitting alone behind her group of friends.
So I summoned all my courage, and ignored the weird looks of disgust my friends were giving me, and I decided to sit next to her. She seemed pleasantly surprised. We talked about some innocent school stuff a little, but the teacher was rather strict, so we were mainly silent. At this point I was crazy in love though. I tried to sit next to her as much as possible, and she seemed to like it. My friends however were making fun of me nonstop. I was also too insecure to make an actual move. I basicly accepted this situation, I was basicly her friend, I was the only nice guy in the class, so the other girls started being more friendly towards me.
At one point she even invited me to come see a play that she had a big role in. I went there with 3 of her girlfriends, and it was great. She looked stunning and I was more in love then ever. Also more shy then ever unfortunately. After the play we waited for her, and when she walked towards us she extended her arms, as if she wanted to hug someone, and she looked me right in the eye. But I totally froze up, and one of her girlfriends instantly answered her hug. My chance was gone for the night.
Next week at school, I don't remember what the exact situation was, but basicly i hugged her at the gymnastics class. I was really happy. My friends weren't though. They started bullying me pretty hardcore, and made fun of the girl as well. I made the biggest mistake of my life and decided "bro's before hoes". Even though these bros were immature pieces of shit back then, and the hoe was the perfect girl.
Now it's important to note that we didn't have an actual relationship or anything. I was still waaaay to shy to make an actual move. From my perspective at that point, she was waaaaaaaaay out of my league, and the crush was pretty one-sided, I thought she just thought of me as the only nice guy in the class. But from this moment on, I wasn't going to be as nice anymore. I didn't want my friends to keep on bullying me. ( I was 13 I think). It took me probably another 2 or 3 months to get over it. And I felt horrible for acting like a douche, but this was basicly the end of her and me.
Later on, when I was 15 or so, we became friendly again, but nothing more.
So now the final part of this story; A few months ago I ran into her on the street and we started talking. We talked about the class, laughed about how immature we all were, the usual stuff. Then I decided to tell her I had the biggest crush on her for over a year, and that I still regretted never growing the balls to tell her. So she actually told me she always thought I viewed her as just a friend, and that she actually had the biggest crush on me as well. At this point we had really grown apart though, and we both had a relationship, but it made me feel horrible nontheless. I never felt this much regret before. All this time, I was worrying, being nervous, all for no reason. I could have had a relationship with this perfect girl. I don't think I will ever stop regretting that.
I now realise, that if I ever find myself in this situation, I just have to go for it. Any possible emberassement won't be nearly as bad as the regret I feel now.
*I will probably edit my other 2 stories into this later, the first one already turned out alot longer then I expected. Maybe I should just blog all of them?
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Ok after reading EVERY post on this thread I have come to the conclusion that (with the exception of a few who have gotten what they wanted or given advice about how to get it) NO WONDER WOMEN WONT DATE YOU!!!!!
Look, Im not trying to be a dick, but I think some of you need a little honest truth in your lives.......
-"Im just not a social person and it takes me a long time to get comfortable in social situations" Well no shit sherlock NO ONE is comfortable in most social situations especially when meeting a gaggle of new people! The reason it seems like some people can go out and mingle and be social without effort is that THEY HAVE PUT IN THE PRACTICE! Just like playing starcraft or any other game you are nervous as fuck when going online for the first time and you feel like shit when you get beat!! same thing in social situations (GOD DAMNIT PEOPLE BEFORE YOU GO ON A SELF BASHING-A-THON PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE MORE THAN ONCE AND SEE HOW EASY IT GETS!)
-"I just don't want a girlfriend/ I couldnt get one anyway"
you would be surprised at how well tuned a woman is to these kinds of things......A woman can smell desperation like a cheap cologne. They WILL pick up on it if you are showing self esteem problems, or any other self bashing technique that you guys are doing.....confidence is key here guys, and not the brash confidence that comes off as showy or douche baggy im talking about the "i dont give a fuk about what you think of me because I love me" THIS IS WHY THE GIRL GOES HOME WITH THE ASSHOLE, because he could give 2 shits about how she feels about him....girls love when a guy has his shit together and has his own life and really is interested in looking out for himself first!
-"Im stuck in the friend zone"
Yup! because you werent assertive enough and didnt let her know FROM THE GET GO that you wanted her in a way more than just friends. Seriously guys if you like a girl then grow some fuking balls and tell her!!!! You might not get the response you were initially looking for but at least you tried and then you can be friends with her like you were gonna end up doing in the first place and you will have the added benefit of knowing for sure where you stand so you can move on.
-"I cant get a date"
NUMBERS, NUMBERS, NUMBERS.....dating is a numbers game....Just like a sales job you have to make the calls in order to get results.....unless you are Brad Pitt, some other movie star, filthy rich, or just plain lucky YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET A YES OUT OF EVERY GIRL! The worst they can do is say no and how is that so bad? At least you tried! move on to her friend and her friend and her friend and sooner or later you will have that date!
-"I just cant seem to work up the guts to ask her"
You are putting the pussy on a pedestal!~!!!!!!! Yes you read that right. You are exalting something that should not be exalted. These women that you are chasing are JUST as socially awkward as you and they are people with paranoid thoughts and weird quirks JUST LIKE YOU!!!! Why would you get anymore nervous chatting with a female you met at the coffee shop, or wherever, than you would be talkin to a buddy you met watchin the game! Listen to what they say and ask a question about it......SHE WILL KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING IF SHE IS INTO IT.....if shes not into it then she will probably give you nice hints that she isnt and you can take your coffee and go on with life....nothing lost!
The point Im trying to make here is that alot of you guys are stuck in this pity party world that you have made for yourselves about how I suck doing this thing or that thing, when the fact of the matter is that most of you guys have much higher IQ's than average and have all the necessary skills and equipment to get lots of pussy! ( If you can spend 120 in game days figuring out how to micro/macro your way out of diamond and platinum league challenges in starcraft then you can sure as fuk figure out how to talk to women) If pussy is what you want then get off your computer tonight, take a shower, do some manscaping, put on a nice shirt and go out and be nervous and awkward and weird, until you no longer feel nervous and awkward and weird.
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1: Find a girl so nice you'd actually be her friend
2: Befriend her
3: Start going out to parties with her
4: Cross the "friend-zone"
5: With humour/charm you should easilly avoid the awkwardness - ending up in a romance-zone
6: Meet her family
7: After some time - move in together
8: Show her that her friends are as important, nice and funny as your own (befriend her friends)
9: Be with her for 6years
This has been my plan so far... Working out great (^_^)
+ Show Spoiler +Adult hint: Sex works great for bonding  Great sex is even better
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On October 11 2011 01:29 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 01:21 TheDraken wrote:On October 11 2011 01:06 frogrubdown wrote:On October 11 2011 00:48 Jayjay54 wrote:On October 11 2011 00:33 frogrubdown wrote:On October 11 2011 00:13 Jayjay54 wrote:On October 10 2011 23:58 frogrubdown wrote:
This is a really nice thread.
Now if only every page didn't have some PUA guy saying "You're doing it wrong! Treat them like objects!", even though it's obvious that the majority of depressing posts here are from people that want more than a hookup. yeah, but you don't wanna act like the nicest guy in the world. u never get anything, but the friend zone. so in a way, if you're being total jackass u probably have better chances to get a gf than if you're being too nice. u can start treating her good as soon as she knows u def not wanna be friends... But why would you act like the nicest guy in the world unless you actually were the nicest guy in the world? Either, A) You are the nicest guy in the world, and it would be wrong to discourage you from continuing to be who you are to find someone, or B) You are not the nicest guy in the world, but you think you are a supposed to pretend to be in front of girls. If this is the case, then you're just like the PUA guys, putting on an act to get a girl, only you have a less successful strategy than them. If the latter group sincerely wants a real relationship, they just need to stop acting like women are a different species and be themselves around them (combined with appropriate hints at physical attraction). But there's still a huge difference between being your mildly asshole-ish self around girls and actively devising dehumanizing, asshole strategies to manipulate them into liking you. You can have a perfectly fine love life following the first path. But I have a significant moral problem with second, at least when applied to potential serious relationships, and I imagine most of the thread shares this issue. I agree in most parts. But I don't agree that you are born as an asshole or the nicest guy. These are choices how to behave in various groups of people. You can choose to hold the door open for her and get in on slow. Or you can choose to push it and don't open the door. Most people who end up in the friend zone play it safe and 'try to be there for her'. I tried this a lot when I was younger. Doesn't work. Like you said, being yourself is key here. And don't overemphasize any so called pretentious social norms. Act like u normally act. Let's face it, sometimes you are an asshole to your friends. You make fun of them and so on. Do so with your girl and don't think about if she likes it or not. After all that is you and she has to like you in order for the whole thing to work. If you treat her artificially nice => friend zone. That's what happened to me and to a lot of other guys here... and for god's sake. all these posts 'I don't want to date', 'I gave up years ago' and so on make me sad. I said it before. It's like balance whining. Get it together, identify what has to be changed in your life to work stuff out and then go practice. If you keep everything as it is, you probably be forever alone. But you are responsible for it. and not the cruel world. Well, since I don't think that niceness is innate either, I'd say we agree on nearly all points. My problem is with people treating this like a game. This applies as much to people playing the "act nicer than I actually am" strategy just as much as it does to people playing the "destroy her self-esteem to make her want me more" strategy. If you want something serious, don't play around. how is it not a game? you find ladies, you try to snatch a card, you get it, you move on. the guy with the most at the end is the winner! it's all about building street cred bro. in fact i've found it becomes easier the more manwhore you are. if this chick knows you've fucked all her friends but not her, she's gonna want in on the club so she doesn't feel unattractive/unworthy. That's not dating, that's just pickup. Different thread.
There's a pickup thread?
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girls are easy man. all you have to do is wear some nice clothes and be funny / yourself. Just talk to them like you would anyone else. f you can make a girl laugh she is putty in your hands. Unfortunately if you lack social skills with your male peers you probably have very little luck finding a decent girl. So get out there and start talking to people!
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On October 11 2011 02:21 mud123 wrote:
girls are easy man. all you have to do is wear some nice clothes and be funny / yourself. Just talk to them like you would anyone else. if you can make a girl laugh she is putty in your hands. Unfortunately if you lack social skills with your male peers you probably have very little luck finding a decent girl. So get out there and start talking to people!
I'm not sure about this but about to find out. I got to know this cute little girl 2 weeks back and I made her laugh all the time. Still, I'm not sure where this is going. She just quit her last long-term relationship. It's complicated.
I hope you're right tho, she's pretty hot, played zelda and is smart too
ninja-edit: yeah I too wanted to state that MaliciousMirth pretty much covered it all. keep it up man.
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On October 11 2011 02:14 MaliciousMirth wrote:
Ok after reading EVERY post on this thread I have come to the conclusion that (with the exception of a few who have gotten what they wanted or given advice about how to get it) NO WONDER WOMEN WONT DATE YOU!!!!!
Look, Im not trying to be a dick, but I think some of you need a little honest truth in your lives.......
-"Im just not a social person and it takes me a long time to get comfortable in social situations" Well no shit sherlock NO ONE is comfortable in most social situations especially when meeting a gaggle of new people! The reason it seems like some people can go out and mingle and be social without effort is that THEY HAVE PUT IN THE PRACTICE! Just like playing starcraft or any other game you are nervous as fuck when going online for the first time and you feel like shit when you get beat!! same thing in social situations (GOD DAMNIT PEOPLE BEFORE YOU GO ON A SELF BASHING-A-THON PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE MORE THAN ONCE AND SEE HOW EASY IT GETS!)
-"I just don't want a girlfriend/ I couldnt get one anyway"
you would be surprised at how well tuned a woman is to these kinds of things......A woman can smell desperation like a cheap cologne. They WILL pick up on it if you are showing self esteem problems, or any other self bashing technique that you guys are doing.....confidence is key here guys, and not the brash confidence that comes off as showy or douche baggy im talking about the "i dont give a fuk about what you think of me because I love me" THIS IS WHY THE GIRL GOES HOME WITH THE ASSHOLE, because he could give 2 shits about how she feels about him....girls love when a guy has his shit together and has his own life and really is interested in looking out for himself first!
-"Im stuck in the friend zone"
Yup! because you werent assertive enough and didnt let her know FROM THE GET GO that you wanted her in a way more than just friends. Seriously guys if you like a girl then grow some fuking balls and tell her!!!! You might not get the response you were initially looking for but at least you tried and then you can be friends with her like you were gonna end up doing in the first place and you will have the added benefit of knowing for sure where you stand so you can move on.
-"I cant get a date"
NUMBERS, NUMBERS, NUMBERS.....dating is a numbers game....Just like a sales job you have to make the calls in order to get results.....unless you are Brad Pitt, some other movie star, filthy rich, or just plain lucky YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET A YES OUT OF EVERY GIRL! The worst they can do is say no and how is that so bad? At least you tried! move on to her friend and her friend and her friend and sooner or later you will have that date!
-"I just cant seem to work up the guts to ask her"
You are putting the pussy on a pedestal!~!!!!!!! Yes you read that right. You are exalting something that should not be exalted. These women that you are chasing are JUST as socially awkward as you and they are people with paranoid thoughts and weird quirks JUST LIKE YOU!!!! Why would you get anymore nervous chatting with a female you met at the coffee shop, or wherever, than you would be talkin to a buddy you met watchin the game! Listen to what they say and ask a question about it......SHE WILL KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING IF SHE IS INTO IT.....if shes not into it then she will probably give you nice hints that she isnt and you can take your coffee and go on with life....nothing lost!
The point Im trying to make here is that alot of you guys are stuck in this pity party world that you have made for yourselves about how I suck doing this thing or that thing, when the fact of the matter is that most of you guys have much higher IQ's than average and have all the necessary skills and equipment to get lots of pussy! ( If you can spend 120 in game days figuring out how to micro/macro your way out of diamond and platinum league challenges in starcraft then you can sure as fuk figure out how to talk to women) If pussy is what you want then get off your computer tonight, take a shower, do some manscaping, put on a nice shirt and go out and be nervous and awkward and weird, until you no longer feel nervous and awkward and weird.
BAM. This man writes truth like it's his job xD
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The "Ask me anything" Day[9] episode (I think it's 342) sums up where I am in my life right now. I was in a serious relationship for about a year, but that ended about 2 years ago now. I don't really regret it. I am very happy with my life right now, focused on my work, and getting my own life together.
I think it's important to be happy with yourself before you go looking for happiness in another person. Also, I don't want someone else's happiness being contingent me at this point. I am not rejecting women (although I feel like I have turned down more women than I've been on dates with!), but I'm not searching very hard either. Unless I meet Taylor Swift (we'd make a cute couple, obviously).
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On October 11 2011 02:44 Kimaker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 02:14 MaliciousMirth wrote:
Ok after reading EVERY post on this thread I have come to the conclusion that (with the exception of a few who have gotten what they wanted or given advice about how to get it) NO WONDER WOMEN WONT DATE YOU!!!!!
Look, Im not trying to be a dick, but I think some of you need a little honest truth in your lives.......
-"Im just not a social person and it takes me a long time to get comfortable in social situations" Well no shit sherlock NO ONE is comfortable in most social situations especially when meeting a gaggle of new people! The reason it seems like some people can go out and mingle and be social without effort is that THEY HAVE PUT IN THE PRACTICE! Just like playing starcraft or any other game you are nervous as fuck when going online for the first time and you feel like shit when you get beat!! same thing in social situations (GOD DAMNIT PEOPLE BEFORE YOU GO ON A SELF BASHING-A-THON PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE MORE THAN ONCE AND SEE HOW EASY IT GETS!)
-"I just don't want a girlfriend/ I couldnt get one anyway"
you would be surprised at how well tuned a woman is to these kinds of things......A woman can smell desperation like a cheap cologne. They WILL pick up on it if you are showing self esteem problems, or any other self bashing technique that you guys are doing.....confidence is key here guys, and not the brash confidence that comes off as showy or douche baggy im talking about the "i dont give a fuk about what you think of me because I love me" THIS IS WHY THE GIRL GOES HOME WITH THE ASSHOLE, because he could give 2 shits about how she feels about him....girls love when a guy has his shit together and has his own life and really is interested in looking out for himself first!
-"Im stuck in the friend zone"
Yup! because you werent assertive enough and didnt let her know FROM THE GET GO that you wanted her in a way more than just friends. Seriously guys if you like a girl then grow some fuking balls and tell her!!!! You might not get the response you were initially looking for but at least you tried and then you can be friends with her like you were gonna end up doing in the first place and you will have the added benefit of knowing for sure where you stand so you can move on.
-"I cant get a date"
NUMBERS, NUMBERS, NUMBERS.....dating is a numbers game....Just like a sales job you have to make the calls in order to get results.....unless you are Brad Pitt, some other movie star, filthy rich, or just plain lucky YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET A YES OUT OF EVERY GIRL! The worst they can do is say no and how is that so bad? At least you tried! move on to her friend and her friend and her friend and sooner or later you will have that date!
-"I just cant seem to work up the guts to ask her"
You are putting the pussy on a pedestal!~!!!!!!! Yes you read that right. You are exalting something that should not be exalted. These women that you are chasing are JUST as socially awkward as you and they are people with paranoid thoughts and weird quirks JUST LIKE YOU!!!! Why would you get anymore nervous chatting with a female you met at the coffee shop, or wherever, than you would be talkin to a buddy you met watchin the game! Listen to what they say and ask a question about it......SHE WILL KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING IF SHE IS INTO IT.....if shes not into it then she will probably give you nice hints that she isnt and you can take your coffee and go on with life....nothing lost!
The point Im trying to make here is that alot of you guys are stuck in this pity party world that you have made for yourselves about how I suck doing this thing or that thing, when the fact of the matter is that most of you guys have much higher IQ's than average and have all the necessary skills and equipment to get lots of pussy! ( If you can spend 120 in game days figuring out how to micro/macro your way out of diamond and platinum league challenges in starcraft then you can sure as fuk figure out how to talk to women) If pussy is what you want then get off your computer tonight, take a shower, do some manscaping, put on a nice shirt and go out and be nervous and awkward and weird, until you no longer feel nervous and awkward and weird.
BAM. This man writes truth like it's his job xD
It needs to be re-posted in the pity-party thread about being a nice guy. Seriously. Like 90% of the whine posts in that thread can be responded to by saying "man the fuck up"
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Been in a relationship for almost two years now. ANd i have been friends with her for almost four years! My relationship aint perfect But i can't bitch! She is my highschool sweetheart!
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Keys to getting woman:
Confidence (most important)
Assertiveness - Be somewhat aggresive so she knows your intentions, body language, touching etc. This goes with confidence. Don't be too nice or a push over (like rushing to buy her a drink right away) but don't be a huge asshole either (find a happy medium). If you stammer or stutter a lot forget about it..
Conversation - you have to be able to keep & hold a conversataion or she will lose interest. Just keep asking her questions and let them talk about themselves =p helps a ton if you can be witty & funny.
Don't be afraid of rejection - it's all a numbers game, if your scared of rejection you will never succeed. The more woman you go up to the better chance one will respond. Just go up to woman and hit on them and have an unapolagetic attitude about it.
Also last thing is don't ever ask a woman if she's single, or use that as an opener. Woman hate admitting they are single, she most likely will say no even if she is. This is a big no no and a real rookie mistake a lot of guys make.
really that's about it.. I mean of course looks, money, car, clothing etc helps, but when it comes down to it what really matters is confidence and being a good conversationalist (or "game" as they call it) It trumps looks every time, this is why you see a lot of ugly, overweight guys with beatiuful woman a lot and you think "what the hell how did HE get HER"...
From reading the posts it sounds like a lot of guys are just giving up before even trying, or making excuses... again with that attitude you might as well give up..
and I'm sorry I really don't see how a hetereosexual man can be content without woman in their life..
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To the OP, and I mean this in the nicest way possible :
You're too nice. That's right. You're too nice. Now I'm not going to turn this into a « all women take advantage of nice guys », because that's not true. In fact, there are some nice girls out there, taking advantage of nice guys, without even knowing that they're doing it (and it probably applies to the contrary too).
From my experience, the best thing to do in this case is to find something in life that you enjoy, and just do that. Don't go looking for a girlfriend, one will eventually meet up with you doing something you love and you can take it from there.
If you're « looking » for a girlfriend, you'll always end up with women that take advantage of you, because you will keep letting them.
Now this doesn't mean you can't be polite/nice. Offering rides and opening the car door is great! That said, you have to have something that will make her stick around. Something worth talking about with her. You need some common ground, and without that, one of you will always be bored (usually resulting in the relationship ending quickly), or having one of the two people taking advantage of the other (probably in order to try and make each other more similar).
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I have never had trouble speaking with girls/women from a young age, and it all came from the feeling of "I'll regret this if I Don't do it".
When you meet a new person, are you scared that they don't like you immediately?
If there was one underlying truth to meeting ANY new person, this is it:
These women you are chasing are JUST as socially awkward as you and they are people with paranoid thoughts and weird quirks JUST LIKE YOU!!!! Why would you get anymore nervous chatting with a female you met at the coffee shop, or wherever, than you would be talkin to a buddy you met watchin the game! Listen to what they say and ask a question about it......SHE WILL KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING IF SHE IS INTO IT.....if shes not into it then she will probably give you nice hints that she isnt and you can take your coffee and go on with life....nothing lost!
Life lesson:
SHE WILL KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING IF SHE IS INTO IT.... just as you would if you were into it.
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I think the idea of dating is a very american notion. There's not alot of that going on with anyone I am remotely connected to. People just meet other people in clubs and other social gatherings and chat each other up.
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On October 11 2011 01:52 Soliduok wrote:
Nice guys do get the girl at the end of the movie, but unfortunately life isn't a 1.5 hour event. Nice guys will eventually get a nice woman as long as they get out there. There are plenty of nice women looking for relationships as well.
Nice guys will not get the girl at the end of the movie, the girl that learns from her mistakes will get a nice guy after being treated like shit by the not-so-nice ones.. if it was left to the nice guy, he would never get fine pussy.. ever.
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I had a girlfriend for about two years but we figured out it wasn't really working out between us.
3 Months later, she starts playing Starcraft 2. FML.
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