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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
HoodedAvatar
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada115 Posts
October 10 2011 19:14 GMT
#381
In my own experience there is a linear correlation between good looks and being a massive bitch in women. The hotter the girl the more trouble you are in for... for example:

My worst dating experience was when I was going out with a girl for 2 months and it was mostly a physical relaitonship lol.. she invited me and my friends to a party at her friends house, and while i was chillin on the patio with her friends, she had gone upstairs and fucked ANOTHER DUDE.... while i was still at the party. I only found out at the end of the night when i had to go home and i went looking for my "gf", only to find her in thr master bedroom, riding on you no what!
Trentelshark
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada385 Posts
October 10 2011 19:20 GMT
#382
On October 11 2011 04:14 HoodedAvatar wrote:
In my own experience there is a linear correlation between good looks and being a massive bitch in women. The hotter the girl the more trouble you are in for... for example:

My worst dating experience was when I was going out with a girl for 2 months and it was mostly a physical relaitonship lol.. she invited me and my friends to a party at her friends house, and while i was chillin on the patio with her friends, she had gone upstairs and fucked ANOTHER DUDE.... while i was still at the party. I only found out at the end of the night when i had to go home and i went looking for my "gf", only to find her in thr master bedroom, riding on you no what!

Not entirely true, and in some cases, they're bitchy for a reason. One other thing to remember is the more attractive they are, chances are they're more lonely than the "average" girl across the room. Reason, most of what this guy said but the fact they're that much more attractive increases some of his points 10 fold LOL.

On October 11 2011 02:14 MaliciousMirth wrote:
Ok after reading EVERY post on this thread I have come to the conclusion that (with the exception of a few who have gotten what they wanted or given advice about how to get it) NO WONDER WOMEN WONT DATE YOU!!!!!

Look, Im not trying to be a dick, but I think some of you need a little honest truth in your lives.......

-"Im just not a social person and it takes me a long time to get comfortable in social situations" Well no shit sherlock NO ONE is comfortable in most social situations especially when meeting a gaggle of new people! The reason it seems like some people can go out and mingle and be social without effort is that THEY HAVE PUT IN THE PRACTICE! Just like playing starcraft or any other game you are nervous as fuck when going online for the first time and you feel like shit when you get beat!! same thing in social situations (GOD DAMNIT PEOPLE BEFORE YOU GO ON A SELF BASHING-A-THON PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE MORE THAN ONCE AND SEE HOW EASY IT GETS!)

-"I just don't want a girlfriend/ I couldnt get one anyway"
you would be surprised at how well tuned a woman is to these kinds of things......A woman can smell desperation like a cheap cologne. They WILL pick up on it if you are showing self esteem problems, or any other self bashing technique that you guys are doing.....confidence is key here guys, and not the brash confidence that comes off as showy or douche baggy im talking about the "i dont give a fuk about what you think of me because I love me" THIS IS WHY THE GIRL GOES HOME WITH THE ASSHOLE, because he could give 2 shits about how she feels about him....girls love when a guy has his shit together and has his own life and really is interested in looking out for himself first!

-"Im stuck in the friend zone"
Yup! because you werent assertive enough and didnt let her know FROM THE GET GO that you wanted her in a way more than just friends. Seriously guys if you like a girl then grow some fuking balls and tell her!!!! You might not get the response you were initially looking for but at least you tried and then you can be friends with her like you were gonna end up doing in the first place and you will have the added benefit of knowing for sure where you stand so you can move on.

-"I cant get a date"
NUMBERS, NUMBERS, NUMBERS.....dating is a numbers game....Just like a sales job you have to make the calls in order to get results.....unless you are Brad Pitt, some other movie star, filthy rich, or just plain lucky YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET A YES OUT OF EVERY GIRL! The worst they can do is say no and how is that so bad? At least you tried! move on to her friend and her friend and her friend and sooner or later you will have that date!

-"I just cant seem to work up the guts to ask her"
You are putting the pussy on a pedestal!~!!!!!!! Yes you read that right. You are exalting something that should not be exalted. These women that you are chasing are JUST as socially awkward as you and they are people with paranoid thoughts and weird quirks JUST LIKE YOU!!!! Why would you get anymore nervous chatting with a female you met at the coffee shop, or wherever, than you would be talkin to a buddy you met watchin the game! Listen to what they say and ask a question about it......SHE WILL KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING IF SHE IS INTO IT.....if shes not into it then she will probably give you nice hints that she isnt and you can take your coffee and go on with life....nothing lost!

The point Im trying to make here is that alot of you guys are stuck in this pity party world that you have made for yourselves about how I suck doing this thing or that thing, when the fact of the matter is that most of you guys have much higher IQ's than average and have all the necessary skills and equipment to get lots of pussy! ( If you can spend 120 in game days figuring out how to micro/macro your way out of diamond and platinum league challenges in starcraft then you can sure as fuk figure out how to talk to women) If pussy is what you want then get off your computer tonight, take a shower, do some manscaping, put on a nice shirt and go out and be nervous and awkward and weird, until you no longer feel nervous and awkward and weird.


Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
October 10 2011 19:36 GMT
#383
Personally, it took me...a year to get the balls to actually talk to the woman I like about how I felt.

It was worth it.

For those who are at that point where you can't work up the courage to talk to someone, it's my advice to just go say something. Don't even think about it too hard, just say it. If you don't try, you automatically fail.
TyPsi5
Profile Joined May 2010
United States204 Posts
October 10 2011 19:46 GMT
#384
I started having success with women when i stopped being so damned nice to them.

Note, that does not mean i am mean to them.

Poke fun at them and when they make mistakes. You'll know its working when they are laughing and punching you in the arm.

gl hf
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 10 2011 19:52 GMT
#385
girls are pretty useless so never felt the need to date one, perfectly fine living life on my own terms

sex is decent but not worth what you have to put up with
Brees on in
Valashu
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands561 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 20:01:25
October 10 2011 20:00 GMT
#386
Dammit the gone wrong stories in this thread make me sad T-T
The superior pilot uses his superior judgement to avoid exercising his superior skill.
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
October 10 2011 20:04 GMT
#387
I'm not going to pay too much attention to this thread until ILOVEKITTENS writes something.
powerade = dragoon blood
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 10 2011 20:10 GMT
#388
On October 11 2011 05:04 chenchen wrote:
I'm not going to pay too much attention to this thread until ILOVEKITTENS writes something.

ILOVEKITTENS is nuked sadly.

And yea, fuck, this is depressing, I'm not sticking around this thread, lol.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
October 10 2011 20:10 GMT
#389
I've had 3 girlfriends, 1 was nothing all to serious, 1 was alot more serious (tho only lasted about 2 months, so I guess not that serious xD) and 1 was more of a internet date kinda thing that ended up in alot of kissing and cuddling but nothing more after that, I just wasn't really feeling it that time.

As for my thoughts, I often wish I had some better skills with the females but on the other hand, I often get the feeling I'm dodging alot of bullets when I see the shit other people go through, if I were good at getting girls I'd probably still spend most of my time on my pc, gaming and not giving a shit.

I'm too much of a nice guy when it comes to girls x]
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 20:12:11
October 10 2011 20:11 GMT
#390
On October 11 2011 05:04 chenchen wrote:
I'm not going to pay too much attention to this thread until ILOVEKITTENS writes something.

ILOVEKITTENS was fanatacist, and he got banned.

You're going to be waiting for a long time. :p

EDIT: Goddamn ninjas
you gotta dance
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
October 10 2011 20:18 GMT
#391
On October 11 2011 04:52 Brees wrote:
sex is decent but not worth what you have to put up with


wait...what....I dont even...what?
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 10 2011 20:20 GMT
#392
ya ill be the first to say it, sex is insanely overrated LOL
Brees on in
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 10 2011 20:21 GMT
#393
On October 11 2011 05:18 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 04:52 Brees wrote:
sex is decent but not worth what you have to put up with


wait...what....I dont even...what?

what's confusing? his statement is pretty straightforward. he's saying that while sex is enjoyable, he'd rather not have sex than have to deal with what he considers the baggage that goes along with it.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
October 10 2011 20:22 GMT
#394
I sincerely, SINCERELY hope u r trollin
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 10 2011 20:25 GMT
#395
Once you're married you'll figure out really quickly just how overrated sex is, which is why you better make sure that your (hopefully) permanent relationship isn't based upon it.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 10 2011 20:26 GMT
#396
On October 11 2011 05:22 Jayjay54 wrote:
I sincerely, SINCERELY hope u r trollin

why? he's entitled to his likes and dislikes, as you are to yours.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
couches
Profile Joined November 2010
618 Posts
October 10 2011 20:30 GMT
#397
On October 11 2011 05:20 Brees wrote:
ya ill be the first to say it, sex is insanely overrated LOL

People overrate it because they aren't getting it.

Cainam
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States421 Posts
October 10 2011 20:31 GMT
#398
Boy oh boy this thread is fun!

Ex#1: Standard friend zone bullshit. Was the "why can't I find someone like you?" guy for months. We finally had sex on St. Patrick's Day when we were both hammered. Dated for a short time after that. After we broke up the secondary from our school's Division I football team ran a train on her. That stung.

Ex#2: Was a few months after #1. She was my best friend prior to that and whaddya know but I actually friend zoned her. It was mostly because she was absolutely gorgeous and I thought I had no chance with her so I never let those feelings develop. Once I realized how she felt about me I let those feelings develop and things lasted ~6 months before she cheated on me.

Ex#3: This one is fun. I met her in Bio class. She was cute and showed interest so I said what the hell and asked her out. Red flag number one was her ex being at her house when I picked her up for our first date. Red flag number two was him leaving her 3 voicemails and 117 text messages during our second date (a 90 minute movie.) Red flag number 3 was after date number three when we were having sex at her place and he came in and watched us for a minute before leaving. We didn't notice as we were too into it. About a week later he broke into her place while she was at work and took her bed outside and lit it on fire. I came and comforted her while the police were there but we broke up about a week later. She still tries to call/text/facebook me from time to time.

Current GF: For everyone else who has had nothing but bad luck in this thread I just want to say this: never give up! As you can see I have had a pretty shit past with relationships but as a result I learned a lot about who I am and what I am looking for and I am now with the most wonderful girl I have ever known. She's 19 but mature beyond her years, gorgeous but doesn't even know it, smart but not arrogant about it, and just the nicest girl ever. We will have been dating for 6 months on Wednesday and I don't see it ending anytime soon, if ever.

So best of luck to all of you with shit luck out there, and never give up or stop working to better yourself. It'll work out for you someday.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
October 10 2011 20:32 GMT
#399
On October 11 2011 05:22 Jayjay54 wrote:
I sincerely, SINCERELY hope u r trollin


I dont understand you...What they are saying is right. While im in a fully committed relationship engaged to be married sex is overrated, i'd rather give myself a hand job to be perfectly honest, its faster and gets the job done ^_^

I had poor luck with dating.

First girl i dated turned round in the middle of our "supposed" date (i did mention the word DATE to her and her to me following it" and asked me if X liked her and could she say something for her. Erm, WTF? - never did get to eat my dessert, walked right outta there lol.

2nd i met at a party, had a bit of a snog n a touchy feely session, met up a few times afterwards, only to be dragged 4 hours away from my house to be completely ignored while she ran about with some "gay" bloke - fucking bitch. (I went back to my area, met up with my mates, got a quater ounce of weed and smoked the night away, ooo yeah!)

I met my fiance in a weird situation (could almost say i "took advantage" :S), she had a shitty life with an arranged marriage and all that bollocks, she was being beaten ( i knew her from work ) we got talking and she took me to church (lol) after that we got pretty friendly, one day i noticed she was really fucked up at work so i gave her a call afterwards, she was crying i went and met her by a lake near us - she cried and told me all about it, during this she took my hand..etc etc, it next her head was on myy shoulder then an arm round me with her hand tucked down my shirt, then she (yes she) lunged in for a kiss. boo yah! :D I never woulda had the balls to try something with her as she is 6 years my elder and as i worked with her could have had all sorts of repercussions.
Useless wet fish.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 10 2011 20:34 GMT
#400
On October 11 2011 05:30 couches wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 05:20 Brees wrote:
ya ill be the first to say it, sex is insanely overrated LOL

People overrate it because they aren't getting it.



says the guy named couches? rofl
Brees on in
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