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Keep your off topic discussions out of this thread and show some damn respect!
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
July 24 2011 01:12 GMT
#1541
great, now the Australian media has aluded a bit to his Modern Warfare playing, and tied that directly in our new R18+ video game agenda, asking if the law should be revoked. Thank god people aren't dumbasses.

My heart goes out to you Norway.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
July 24 2011 01:12 GMT
#1542
On July 24 2011 10:11 butchji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 10:09 valaki wrote:
Wow I just read the manifesto and it's extremely interesting.


I doubt you've read the 1.5k pages!


I'm starting to worry about so many people reading his thoughts. If 50K people read it and even 5 people are affected by it in the way that he hopes, that can quickly snowball into something extremely hard to control.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
July 24 2011 01:12 GMT
#1543
On July 24 2011 10:08 reisada wrote:
hes not emntally ill, some psychiatrists have said.
hes an extremist, but as much extremist as extremism can go.
he takes his ideas to the extreme.
but now we have a problem, he has the capacity to spread the word with these documents and the speeches hell probably make. and then god knows how people will listen to what he says.
imagine 10000 people listen and read waht he says.
i think its a fair guess that at least 5 agree with him
from those 5 its fair to assume that at least 1 would take the measures he says.
and thats really worrying and frightens me.
also on the matter of taliban terrorists, they are exactly the same thing as him, extremists on their ideas.



Assumptions are just that, assumptions. Your speculation doesn't matter. Everyone in the world could hear it, and agree with him, that doesn't mean anyone will act.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
July 24 2011 01:13 GMT
#1544
On July 24 2011 10:12 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 10:11 butchji wrote:
On July 24 2011 10:09 valaki wrote:
Wow I just read the manifesto and it's extremely interesting.


I doubt you've read the 1.5k pages!


I'm starting to worry about so many people reading his thoughts. If 50K people read it and even 5 people are affected by it in the way that he hopes, that can quickly snowball into something extremely hard to control.


freedom of expression
Kemy
Profile Joined November 2010
105 Posts
July 24 2011 01:13 GMT
#1545
Reading some of the manifesto I think his ultimate goal was to publish said manifesto. Since he couldn't raise enough money to do it the usual way he killed these teenagers as some kind of marketing action. Plus he took a first step in the civil war he wants to start.

Only to write this is feels so wrong and saddens me to no end...

FunkQue
Profile Joined October 2010
United States165 Posts
July 24 2011 01:14 GMT
#1546
On July 24 2011 10:10 Grettin wrote:
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On July 24 2011 10:08 FunkQue wrote:
I would remove links to this guys book. Looks like it contains instructions for making and handling explosives....


Yeah, and you can get those by just using Google. Jesus people..


Then why would he recommend hiding your IP before searching most of the shit he is listing you dumb fuck?

Maybe it's shit you shouldn't "Google" if you enjoy your freedom.

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TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 01:16:39
July 24 2011 01:15 GMT
#1547
On July 24 2011 10:12 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 10:11 butchji wrote:
On July 24 2011 10:09 valaki wrote:
Wow I just read the manifesto and it's extremely interesting.


I doubt you've read the 1.5k pages!


I'm starting to worry about so many people reading his thoughts. If 50K people read it and even 5 people are affected by it in the way that he hopes, that can quickly snowball into something extremely hard to control.


Quick, burn everything that doesn't represent your ideals or your perception, god forbid people read them and develop their own judgment.

On July 24 2011 10:14 FunkQue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 10:10 Grettin wrote:
On July 24 2011 10:08 FunkQue wrote:
I would remove links to this guys book. Looks like it contains instructions for making and handling explosives....


Yeah, and you can get those by just using Google. Jesus people..


Then why would he recommend hiding your IP before searching most of the shit he is listing you dumb fuck?

Maybe it's shit you shouldn't "Google" if you enjoy your freedom.


I'm afraid studying chemistry is not yet a crime punishable by imprisonment.
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Gatsbi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1134 Posts
July 24 2011 01:15 GMT
#1548
On July 24 2011 10:14 FunkQue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 10:10 Grettin wrote:
On July 24 2011 10:08 FunkQue wrote:
I would remove links to this guys book. Looks like it contains instructions for making and handling explosives....


Yeah, and you can get those by just using Google. Jesus people..


Then why would he recommend hiding your IP before searching most of the shit he is listing you dumb fuck?

Maybe it's shit you shouldn't "Google" if you enjoy your freedom.


All he said was "You can get those by just using Google". I don't see what your point is..

Besides, looking up instructions on how to make bombs isn't illegal in it's own right.

Calm down
"IF WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE KNOWN. THEN YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN ANYTHINIG YET." - Rev Kojo Smith
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
July 24 2011 01:16 GMT
#1549
On July 24 2011 09:51 XRaDiiX wrote:
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On July 24 2011 08:28 MasterFischer wrote:
On July 24 2011 08:20 Techno wrote:
On July 24 2011 08:15 XRaDiiX wrote:
Its Easy to Say no Death Penalty Because of the 'Law'

But IMO this guy is really a sub-human he deserves not to live

That is a photo of him standing there with several dead bodies laying around him and floating in the water

Whilst a kid in the water Begs for his life.

And your going to stand there and tell me this guy deserves to live!

He should be Tortured even the crimes he has committed are the most atrocious ever.

I wish he would be skinned alive Honestly!!!!!

Why? You'd only be martyring him for his cause. He would die a happy man.

If you keep him alive and treat him like a human being, he may realize how despicable his actions were. Endless guilt is a worse torture then any physical pain.


Have you read what this guy wrote?

He won't realize anything other than wanting to kill you, and the entire society. He is clearly insane. He won't EVER have any guilt for what he has done. That should basically be CRYSTAL CLEAR for everybody at this fucking moment.. dude.. he even WANTED To be arrested, so he could glorify himself, and continue to his "cause"... you think this guy repents his actions? Not a fucking chance..

I say, torture this fucking guy, sever him limb from limb, make him experience pain you and I will never imagine. And perhaps when he cries for mercy, then you might give it to him, or just continue for marathons of marathons of endless gutwrenchy torture, until he finally dies.. At that point he should be set afire, and thrown into a lake.

What I'm getting at is... This person, should not be considered a human being, he must not have the pleasure of being compared to the homo sapiens speciies that you and I come from.


I know They just can't see it

Its nice for people to claim the moral high ground and call us animals for wanting this man to be dealt with in the same manner he dealt with the 90 Children on that Island.

He Deserves it and more Every bit of Torture or pain and suffering he caused to these innocent lives he took on Friday.

RIP

There is no way this guy should be allowed to be put back into society ever and this man should be executed

He is deranged reading what he wrote clarifies even more the psychopathic mentality of this sick man.

He has been twisted beyond saving.

All those claiming that he should not be executed try to imagine being the family members of your children who were brutally murdered mercilessly by this sub-human

RIP NORWAY My ancestors.



u cant see it

u are driven be hatred and anger

seriously.. if u let him die it wont take away any of the victims relatives pain and agony

there are studies about this.. trying to forgive him and accepting what has happened is a much more proper healing process than seeing him being executed

it generates a even bigger and larger emptyness and no joy .. a feeling of redemption maybe shortly but not in the long run

hatred outlives the hateful
sorrowptoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1431 Posts
July 24 2011 01:17 GMT
#1550
Terrible terrible news. Norway is such a peaceful country and never knew such a surge of violence since WW2. My heartfelt feelings to the Norwegian People.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42383 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 01:18:29
July 24 2011 01:17 GMT
#1551
On July 24 2011 10:14 FunkQue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 10:10 Grettin wrote:
On July 24 2011 10:08 FunkQue wrote:
I would remove links to this guys book. Looks like it contains instructions for making and handling explosives....


Yeah, and you can get those by just using Google. Jesus people..


Then why would he recommend hiding your IP before searching most of the shit he is listing you dumb fuck?

Maybe it's shit you shouldn't "Google" if you enjoy your freedom.


But the point was that you can get all that stuff just by using Google. We never talked about what he recommended, we talked about removing the link of the manifesto document. I just told you that you don't actually need to download and read the book to get insturctions for making explosives.

Calling my a dumb fuck just shows how stupid you really are.

User was warned for this post
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
July 24 2011 01:19 GMT
#1552
On July 24 2011 10:11 butchji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 10:09 valaki wrote:
Wow I just read the manifesto and it's extremely interesting.


I doubt you've read the 1.5k pages!


Nah, not that. The google docs one what I was referring to.
ggaemo fan
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
July 24 2011 01:19 GMT
#1553
Quick, burn everything that doesn't represent your ideals or your perception, god forbid people read them and develop their own judgment.


lolzz way to put words in my mouth. ^^

all i'm saying is that he now has mad publicity for his thoughts on a global scale.
FunkQue
Profile Joined October 2010
United States165 Posts
July 24 2011 01:20 GMT
#1554
On July 24 2011 10:17 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 10:14 FunkQue wrote:
On July 24 2011 10:10 Grettin wrote:
On July 24 2011 10:08 FunkQue wrote:
I would remove links to this guys book. Looks like it contains instructions for making and handling explosives....


Yeah, and you can get those by just using Google. Jesus people..


Then why would he recommend hiding your IP before searching most of the shit he is listing you dumb fuck?

Maybe it's shit you shouldn't "Google" if you enjoy your freedom.


But the point was that you can get all that stuff just by using Google. We never talked about what he recommended, we talked about removing the link of the manifesto document. I just told you that you don't actually need to download and read the book to get insturctions for making explosives.

Calling my a dumb fuck just shows how stupid you really are.


You are an idiot, because you obviously haven't read the sections I'm referring to.

User was warned for this post
reisada
Profile Joined September 2010
183 Posts
July 24 2011 01:21 GMT
#1555
On July 24 2011 10:19 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
Quick, burn everything that doesn't represent your ideals or your perception, god forbid people read them and develop their own judgment.


lolzz way to put words in my mouth. ^^

all i'm saying is that he now has mad publicity for his thoughts on a global scale.

and i agree totaly with you sir, now its not just some document, its also his speech. hes probably an amazing speecher and tomorrow he said hell talk
graan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany589 Posts
July 24 2011 01:21 GMT
#1556
what disturbs me right now is that his message will get out through his manifest - dont read that stuff, dont link it what so ever, sure like 99.99% read this and know how damaged this stuff is, but there will be people who pick things off of that...

hitlers mein kampf is banned for a reaseon, even though ppl might say read it and you see how fucked up his mind was and that teaches us a leason - there are stupid mind leaking morons like that misanthropic soul..
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 01:24:13
July 24 2011 01:23 GMT
#1557
On July 24 2011 10:21 graan wrote:
what disturbs me right now is that his message will get out through his manifest - dont read that stuff, dont link it what so ever, sure like 99.99% read this and know how damaged this stuff is, but there will be people who pick things off of that...

hitlers mein kampf is banned for a reaseon, even though ppl might say read it and you see how fucked up his mind was and that teaches us a leason - there are stupid mind leaking morons like that misanthropic soul..


Mein Kampf is only banned in Germany afaik... in other countries in the world there is something called freedom of expression.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 01:31:51
July 24 2011 01:24 GMT
#1558
On July 24 2011 10:13 Kemy wrote:
Reading some of the manifesto I think his ultimate goal was to publish said manifesto. Since he couldn't raise enough money to do it the usual way he killed these teenagers as some kind of marketing action. Plus he took a first step in the civil war he wants to start.

Only to write this is feels so wrong and saddens me to no end...



He actually refers to what he did yesterday as his 'marketing operation' in the manifesto.

What the manisfesto shows more then anything is that any ideology can be taken to it's extremes and that they all end up at the same final decision: killing innocent people in order to get noticed. Yet, we seem to hold all muslims (to some extent) responsible for the attacks committed in the name of islam. I wonder if the same thing happens here.


On July 24 2011 10:23 butchji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 10:21 graan wrote:
what disturbs me right now is that his message will get out through his manifest - dont read that stuff, dont link it what so ever, sure like 99.99% read this and know how damaged this stuff is, but there will be people who pick things off of that...

hitlers mein kampf is banned for a reaseon, even though ppl might say read it and you see how fucked up his mind was and that teaches us a leason - there are stupid mind leaking morons like that misanthropic soul..


Mein Kampf is only banned in Germany afaik... in other countries in the world there is something called freedom of expression.


It's banned in quite a few countries in Europe. Technically not in Germany tho, it's just that the state holds the copyright and doesn't issue reprints. You're free to own a copy or sell a copy that's already yours.
Atasu
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada98 Posts
July 24 2011 01:30 GMT
#1559
The resiliance to not change their ways and be so determined to not undermine thier belifes under the current situation is what is making me love the norwegian people, if only the american's had such solidarity, something to think about.

VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
July 24 2011 01:30 GMT
#1560
On July 24 2011 10:23 butchji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 10:21 graan wrote:
what disturbs me right now is that his message will get out through his manifest - dont read that stuff, dont link it what so ever, sure like 99.99% read this and know how damaged this stuff is, but there will be people who pick things off of that...

hitlers mein kampf is banned for a reaseon, even though ppl might say read it and you see how fucked up his mind was and that teaches us a leason - there are stupid mind leaking morons like that misanthropic soul..


Mein Kampf is only banned in Germany afaik... in other countries in the world there is something called freedom of expression.


Not to mention that in the end, banning an ideology or a piece of propaganda is likely to do more to further the cause of that ideology than when it is left open for everyone to see.

Sadly, a large reason to why people like Breivik and islamophobes and right wing nationalist parties are seeing success in Europe today is because it has been taboo for 20 years to even criticize islam or to even suggest there could be something wrong with the immigration policy. It has driven people who had mild, rational and down to earth criticism into the fangs of the extremists, because society left them no room to voice their opinions and no scene to discuss the topics.

Part of the success off nationalist extremism in Europe is the fault of postmodernist political correctness, and this is something we will all have to live with.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
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