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Bobble
Australia1493 Posts
My heart goes out to you Norway. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
I'm starting to worry about so many people reading his thoughts. If 50K people read it and even 5 people are affected by it in the way that he hopes, that can quickly snowball into something extremely hard to control. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On July 24 2011 10:08 reisada wrote: hes not emntally ill, some psychiatrists have said. hes an extremist, but as much extremist as extremism can go. he takes his ideas to the extreme. but now we have a problem, he has the capacity to spread the word with these documents and the speeches hell probably make. and then god knows how people will listen to what he says. imagine 10000 people listen and read waht he says. i think its a fair guess that at least 5 agree with him from those 5 its fair to assume that at least 1 would take the measures he says. and thats really worrying and frightens me. also on the matter of taliban terrorists, they are exactly the same thing as him, extremists on their ideas. Assumptions are just that, assumptions. Your speculation doesn't matter. Everyone in the world could hear it, and agree with him, that doesn't mean anyone will act. | ||
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
On July 24 2011 10:12 nvs. wrote: I'm starting to worry about so many people reading his thoughts. If 50K people read it and even 5 people are affected by it in the way that he hopes, that can quickly snowball into something extremely hard to control. freedom of expression | ||
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Kemy
105 Posts
Only to write this is feels so wrong and saddens me to no end... | ||
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FunkQue
United States165 Posts
On July 24 2011 10:10 Grettin wrote: Yeah, and you can get those by just using Google. Jesus people.. Then why would he recommend hiding your IP before searching most of the shit he is listing you dumb fuck? Maybe it's shit you shouldn't "Google" if you enjoy your freedom. User was warned for this post | ||
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TuElite
Canada2123 Posts
On July 24 2011 10:12 nvs. wrote: I'm starting to worry about so many people reading his thoughts. If 50K people read it and even 5 people are affected by it in the way that he hopes, that can quickly snowball into something extremely hard to control. Quick, burn everything that doesn't represent your ideals or your perception, god forbid people read them and develop their own judgment. On July 24 2011 10:14 FunkQue wrote: Then why would he recommend hiding your IP before searching most of the shit he is listing you dumb fuck? Maybe it's shit you shouldn't "Google" if you enjoy your freedom. I'm afraid studying chemistry is not yet a crime punishable by imprisonment. | ||
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Gatsbi
United States1134 Posts
On July 24 2011 10:14 FunkQue wrote: Then why would he recommend hiding your IP before searching most of the shit he is listing you dumb fuck? Maybe it's shit you shouldn't "Google" if you enjoy your freedom. All he said was "You can get those by just using Google". I don't see what your point is.. Besides, looking up instructions on how to make bombs isn't illegal in it's own right. Calm down | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On July 24 2011 09:51 XRaDiiX wrote: I know They just can't see it Its nice for people to claim the moral high ground and call us animals for wanting this man to be dealt with in the same manner he dealt with the 90 Children on that Island. He Deserves it and more Every bit of Torture or pain and suffering he caused to these innocent lives he took on Friday. RIP There is no way this guy should be allowed to be put back into society ever and this man should be executed He is deranged reading what he wrote clarifies even more the psychopathic mentality of this sick man. He has been twisted beyond saving. All those claiming that he should not be executed try to imagine being the family members of your children who were brutally murdered mercilessly by this sub-human RIP NORWAY My ancestors. u cant see it u are driven be hatred and anger seriously.. if u let him die it wont take away any of the victims relatives pain and agony there are studies about this.. trying to forgive him and accepting what has happened is a much more proper healing process than seeing him being executed it generates a even bigger and larger emptyness and no joy .. a feeling of redemption maybe shortly but not in the long run | ||
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sorrowptoss
Canada1431 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On July 24 2011 10:14 FunkQue wrote: Then why would he recommend hiding your IP before searching most of the shit he is listing you dumb fuck? Maybe it's shit you shouldn't "Google" if you enjoy your freedom. But the point was that you can get all that stuff just by using Google. We never talked about what he recommended, we talked about removing the link of the manifesto document. I just told you that you don't actually need to download and read the book to get insturctions for making explosives. Calling my a dumb fuck just shows how stupid you really are. User was warned for this post | ||
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valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
Nah, not that. The google docs one what I was referring to. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
Quick, burn everything that doesn't represent your ideals or your perception, god forbid people read them and develop their own judgment. lolzz way to put words in my mouth. ^^ all i'm saying is that he now has mad publicity for his thoughts on a global scale. | ||
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FunkQue
United States165 Posts
On July 24 2011 10:17 Grettin wrote: But the point was that you can get all that stuff just by using Google. We never talked about what he recommended, we talked about removing the link of the manifesto document. I just told you that you don't actually need to download and read the book to get insturctions for making explosives. Calling my a dumb fuck just shows how stupid you really are. You are an idiot, because you obviously haven't read the sections I'm referring to. User was warned for this post | ||
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reisada
183 Posts
On July 24 2011 10:19 nvs. wrote: lolzz way to put words in my mouth. ^^ all i'm saying is that he now has mad publicity for his thoughts on a global scale. and i agree totaly with you sir, now its not just some document, its also his speech. hes probably an amazing speecher and tomorrow he said hell talk | ||
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graan
Germany589 Posts
hitlers mein kampf is banned for a reaseon, even though ppl might say read it and you see how fucked up his mind was and that teaches us a leason - there are stupid mind leaking morons like that misanthropic soul.. | ||
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
On July 24 2011 10:21 graan wrote: what disturbs me right now is that his message will get out through his manifest - dont read that stuff, dont link it what so ever, sure like 99.99% read this and know how damaged this stuff is, but there will be people who pick things off of that... hitlers mein kampf is banned for a reaseon, even though ppl might say read it and you see how fucked up his mind was and that teaches us a leason - there are stupid mind leaking morons like that misanthropic soul.. Mein Kampf is only banned in Germany afaik... in other countries in the world there is something called freedom of expression. | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
On July 24 2011 10:13 Kemy wrote: Reading some of the manifesto I think his ultimate goal was to publish said manifesto. Since he couldn't raise enough money to do it the usual way he killed these teenagers as some kind of marketing action. Plus he took a first step in the civil war he wants to start. Only to write this is feels so wrong and saddens me to no end... He actually refers to what he did yesterday as his 'marketing operation' in the manifesto. What the manisfesto shows more then anything is that any ideology can be taken to it's extremes and that they all end up at the same final decision: killing innocent people in order to get noticed. Yet, we seem to hold all muslims (to some extent) responsible for the attacks committed in the name of islam. I wonder if the same thing happens here. On July 24 2011 10:23 butchji wrote: Mein Kampf is only banned in Germany afaik... in other countries in the world there is something called freedom of expression. It's banned in quite a few countries in Europe. Technically not in Germany tho, it's just that the state holds the copyright and doesn't issue reprints. You're free to own a copy or sell a copy that's already yours. | ||
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Atasu
Canada98 Posts
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VanGarde
Sweden755 Posts
On July 24 2011 10:23 butchji wrote: Mein Kampf is only banned in Germany afaik... in other countries in the world there is something called freedom of expression. Not to mention that in the end, banning an ideology or a piece of propaganda is likely to do more to further the cause of that ideology than when it is left open for everyone to see. Sadly, a large reason to why people like Breivik and islamophobes and right wing nationalist parties are seeing success in Europe today is because it has been taboo for 20 years to even criticize islam or to even suggest there could be something wrong with the immigration policy. It has driven people who had mild, rational and down to earth criticism into the fangs of the extremists, because society left them no room to voice their opinions and no scene to discuss the topics. Part of the success off nationalist extremism in Europe is the fault of postmodernist political correctness, and this is something we will all have to live with. | ||
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