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Keep your off topic discussions out of this thread and show some damn respect!
Zalitara
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway361 Posts
July 24 2011 00:06 GMT
#1501
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10080673 Some kids had a summer job at the island picking up empty bottles, some of them down to the age of 7-8 years old. Atleast 2 of them were supposedly shot and killed by this guy.
Live to win
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
July 24 2011 00:06 GMT
#1502
On July 24 2011 08:58 DirtYLOu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 08:54 Awesomeness wrote:
On July 24 2011 08:49 xarthaz wrote:
Yes, But you know why people do these things in the first place? Child hood trauma. You see, things in tender youth change a person for life. He couldnt help but become the monster, through the trauma that he must have gone through as a kid.


And this statement is based on what? Nothing? From what I head he even had a pretty normal childhood and was even one of the more popular guys in school. Don't try to be smart without knowing anything about this guy's childhood.


Ye. From what I read in the diary, he had normal life.

The crazy thing about all his things he have done, he lived normal life.

When I read that one day he wen't clubbing and then he came back and thought about "phases" that will be ahead of him i almost collapsed.

He was one cold motherfucker. I almost wanna say he had like 2 sides of him. The one that only he himself new about, and the other the "nice" cool guy, that you can go party and have fun.

It's really disturbing.


I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that he has some level of narcissistic personality disorder, as well some psychopathic traits.

Anyway... I'm tried of thinking about this motherfucker and his beliefs or how he should be punished. So many people are dead, that and preventing things like this from happeing in the future is all that matters. If he was locked away for life and erased from history, it'd only make the world a better place.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 24 2011 00:09 GMT
#1503
On July 24 2011 09:03 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
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On July 24 2011 08:45 MasterFischer wrote:
On July 24 2011 08:35 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
MasterFischer:

Imagine your dad having a psychic disease and doing a bad thing. Do you think it would be right to torture him because he did something due to being sick?

Not saying its definitely the case with this guy but still.

My main point being:

Shut the fuck up


This guy seems determined, intelligent and knows EXACTLY what he is doing.

There is a huge difference



read his manifesto and tell me there is no way he is insane

Im sure u have a PhD in Psychology or something..


Being insane, doesn't mean you can't be intelligent or know what the fuck you are doing. Or vice versa.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
July 24 2011 00:11 GMT
#1504
so you are actually backing up my point
ty
hatred outlives the hateful
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
July 24 2011 00:13 GMT
#1505
On July 24 2011 07:47 Quotidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 07:42 Thorakh wrote:
It's obvious the games didn't inspire him, he would've done this even without them. It might've made it a little easier, but hey if we're going to ban everything that can make a psychopath's job easier we might as ban books, movies, music, any sharp object, any blunt object, any object that fires a projectile, discussing, talking, thoughts, etc.


I don't mean inspire in terms of ideology, but in terms of the form of the actual actions. People were talking about how simular the whole thing was to the airport level in MW2 from the get go. There's a reason for that...

i dont see why the airport scene is so noteworthy, just because a bunch of soccer moms got butthurt seeing violence in videogames doesn't mean violent videogames inspire this kind of thing. This guy was obviously a lunatic and a generic far right extremist
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 24 2011 00:13 GMT
#1506
On July 24 2011 09:11 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
so you are actually backing up my point
ty


I also said vice versa. His views are pretty disturbing but he seems pretty intelligent at least if you look at what he is writing and talking about. And for sure he knew exactly what he was doing.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
July 24 2011 00:14 GMT
#1507
On July 24 2011 09:06 Quotidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 08:58 DirtYLOu wrote:
On July 24 2011 08:54 Awesomeness wrote:
On July 24 2011 08:49 xarthaz wrote:
Yes, But you know why people do these things in the first place? Child hood trauma. You see, things in tender youth change a person for life. He couldnt help but become the monster, through the trauma that he must have gone through as a kid.


And this statement is based on what? Nothing? From what I head he even had a pretty normal childhood and was even one of the more popular guys in school. Don't try to be smart without knowing anything about this guy's childhood.


Ye. From what I read in the diary, he had normal life.

The crazy thing about all his things he have done, he lived normal life.

When I read that one day he wen't clubbing and then he came back and thought about "phases" that will be ahead of him i almost collapsed.

He was one cold motherfucker. I almost wanna say he had like 2 sides of him. The one that only he himself new about, and the other the "nice" cool guy, that you can go party and have fun.

It's really disturbing.


I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that he has some level of narcissistic personality disorder, as well some psychopathic traits.

Those are kind of a precondition for being a successful politician you know..
Aah thats the stuff..
NiNi
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany9 Posts
July 24 2011 00:15 GMT
#1508
Must see video. Speech by the prime minister of norway:


And the highest ranked comment, by PullyElbow27, says it all
And this is how you run a country humanely.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
July 24 2011 00:24 GMT
#1509
On July 24 2011 09:14 xarthaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 09:06 Quotidian wrote:
On July 24 2011 08:58 DirtYLOu wrote:
On July 24 2011 08:54 Awesomeness wrote:
On July 24 2011 08:49 xarthaz wrote:
Yes, But you know why people do these things in the first place? Child hood trauma. You see, things in tender youth change a person for life. He couldnt help but become the monster, through the trauma that he must have gone through as a kid.


And this statement is based on what? Nothing? From what I head he even had a pretty normal childhood and was even one of the more popular guys in school. Don't try to be smart without knowing anything about this guy's childhood.


Ye. From what I read in the diary, he had normal life.

The crazy thing about all his things he have done, he lived normal life.

When I read that one day he wen't clubbing and then he came back and thought about "phases" that will be ahead of him i almost collapsed.

He was one cold motherfucker. I almost wanna say he had like 2 sides of him. The one that only he himself new about, and the other the "nice" cool guy, that you can go party and have fun.

It's really disturbing.


I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that he has some level of narcissistic personality disorder, as well some psychopathic traits.

Those are kind of a precondition for being a successful politician you know..



True. Appearantly, psychopathy is also very common among top business executives as well. I was being slightly facetious though. Of course he'll get some labels slapped on him - whether it's paranoid delusional or psychopathic or whatever.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
July 24 2011 00:26 GMT
#1510
Death toll up to 85 on the island. This is awful.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Qno
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden15 Posts
July 24 2011 00:26 GMT
#1511
offering deepest of my condoleances to the public of Norway and to the families affected to this abomination of friendly societies.

From Sweden with love!
Outstanding!
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
July 24 2011 00:26 GMT
#1512
MaGic~PhiL please stop arguing about insanity it does not seem to be your expertise and it's cluttering up the thread.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
July 24 2011 00:30 GMT
#1513
On July 24 2011 09:15 NiNi wrote:
Must see video. Speech by the prime minister of norway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb2fTQO31GQ

And the highest ranked comment, by PullyElbow27, says it all
Show nested quote +
And this is how you run a country humanely.


Added. Can't tell often enough that while going through all this material is like digging through a pile of shit the reactions from the norwegian people and especially the PM are simply.. amazing.

Great guy you have there, I'd keep him for a while. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
MoneyHypeMike
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada305 Posts
July 24 2011 00:30 GMT
#1514
Just the title of this chapter is making me sick...


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3.29 How to stay motivated for longer periods – perform a daily mental check
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
July 24 2011 00:31 GMT
#1515
I wouldn't use the word insane here. He doesn't seem to have schizophrenia nor psychotic disorders. He had strong convictions and clearly did not believed in laws and certain societal norms but that doesn't mean that he's mentally ill.

Is being obsessive a sign of mental illness ? I wouldn't think so but then again I'm no psychiatrist.
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
Neeh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway458 Posts
July 24 2011 00:33 GMT
#1516
Been browsing through the manifesto. It's so sureal to have access to something like this..
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
July 24 2011 00:34 GMT
#1517
On July 24 2011 09:26 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
MaGic~PhiL please stop arguing about insanity it does not seem to be your expertise and it's cluttering up the thread.

No problem. But you know that one person is not enough for an argument, do you? Just saying..
hatred outlives the hateful
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
July 24 2011 00:40 GMT
#1518
NYTimes with an excellent article on what happened so far:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/world/europe/24oslo.html?pagewanted=3&_r=1&hp
Sotamursu
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland612 Posts
July 24 2011 00:42 GMT
#1519
Can someone summarize the manifesto? I tried looking for it a bit, but going through 76 pages in this thread just to find it is a bit hard.
dubol
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada56 Posts
July 24 2011 00:46 GMT
#1520
it's hard to summarize the manifesto since it's 1500 pages long, and talks about TONS of things. I only read specific things and then stopped reading it because it was too fucked up. He's very meticulous and talks about lots of things including his life.
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