EPT
[Old] The massacre in Norway - Page 15
| Forum Index > General Forum |
Keep your off topic discussions out of this thread and show some damn respect! | ||
|
Wivyx
Norway624 Posts
| ||
|
Broxxi
Norway48 Posts
On July 23 2011 18:08 Plexa wrote: For those calling for his death, from what I understand that would be playing into his hands. He wanted to cause political change with this abomination, and what your suggesting will do exactly that. The best thing for Norway to do is what they are doing right now - nothing out of the ordinary but following their laws that are currently in place. Adding to this as a typical norwegian young man, killing someone is against our values; mass murderer or not. He will (hopefully unless he's totally gone) have more pain by having to answer for his crimes for what is likely to be the rest of his life in our justice systems hands compared to having a quick, painless death. | ||
|
zeru
8156 Posts
| ||
|
Dreis1337
32 Posts
Norway is an extremely nice place to live and I feel lucky to have grown up here and all I would want is more of the same. It is not a time for Norway to turn her back on the ideas of democracy, tolerance and rationality. I think Jens Stoltenberg was correct in how he said Norway would go about it. | ||
|
Awesomeness
Germany1361 Posts
On July 23 2011 18:06 p0lyph0ny wrote: Just don't see the point in revenge imo. what's done is done. Just kill him and be over with it You managed to contradict yourself in an one-liner, wow. Of course they are not going to kill him in a justice system with no death penalty. Do you honestly expect them to change that system just because of him? btw. are norwegian courts public? Would be kinda interesting what he has to say to defend himself or at least explain what was going on in his head if that's even possible... | ||
|
Smapz
Norway405 Posts
On July 23 2011 18:12 Awesomeness wrote: You managed to contradict yourself in an one-liner, wow. Of course they are not going to kill him in a justice system with no death penalty. Do you honestly expect them to change that system just because of him? btw. are norwegian courts public? Would be kinda interesting what he has to say to defend himself or at least explain what was going on in his head if that's even possible... Some are public, some aren't. | ||
|
Ghad
Norway2551 Posts
On July 23 2011 18:12 Awesomeness wrote: btw. are norwegian courts public? Would be kinda interesting what he has to say to defend himself or at least explain what was going on in his head if that's even possible... Yes. In extreme cases the hearings will go behind closed doors, so no public audience or live cameras, but press reporters will be present and free to report from them. | ||
|
HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
And with democracy you have no power to change things, so idealists like him are driven in to these senseless things. I've read a lot on many of the school shooters and people on killing spree and in many cases it's just frustration that strikes from their texts and actions. The killing is so random too.... This was the biggest killing spree by a invidual ever, more victims than that korean policeman got in the eighties. sad times | ||
|
Ciraxis
Australia400 Posts
On July 23 2011 17:33 SuperYo1000 wrote: are you joking. most of the survivors have id'd the guy. Maybe its about time that people get upset and actually do something to protect thier children On July 23 2011 17:36 HoldenR wrote: Are you trolling right now? Eyewitnesses have identified him. The police caught him. He basically admitted to it. What the fuck is the matter with you? Yes, he has the right to a fair trial, but when he basically already says "Hey guys I'm guilty" and just about 100 eyewitnesses can pick him out of a line up, there's really no need to bring forth this stupid argument. I'm not trolling - my point is that whenever there is a massacre, bombing or shooting spree caused by an alienated individual or group of alienated individuals, everyone is quick to "justify" or "make sense of" the tragedy with abusive, hate-driven, garble directed at the perpetrators. These "paroxysms of rage" as I called them are inappropriate and distracting from the discussion of the event itself. I don't want to discuss this perspective anymore. It was only, that at the time of my original post, I feared that this was to become a thread solely for the discussion of how bad the accused murder is, and how he should be executed and rot in hell, etc, etc. I withdraw my original comments since it seems the discussion has cooled down a bit and features less of these extreme hateful statements. Similarly, I hope this thread doesn't turn into "execution vs. life imprisonment". | ||
|
maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
At least 80 people killed at Utoya.. That's just horrible. 80 people killed by one person. I can barely get my mind around it. Putting him to death would pretty much make us as bad as he is. Retaliation is never the answer, and must never be. | ||
|
Steamroller
Finland756 Posts
On July 23 2011 18:10 Wivyx wrote: Went to bed last night with 10 confirmed death from the shooting at Utøya. Woke up to 84 confirmed. Same, im shocked | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 23 2011 18:15 maartendq wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/23/norway-attack-utoya-shooting-oslo At least 80 people killed at Utoya.. That's just horrible. 80 people killed by one person. I can barely get my mind around it. Last official count that I heard was 84 at Utoya + 7 in the bombing | ||
|
koalemos
United States31 Posts
He did get the high score though. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
|
Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
It is never okay to kill innocents. | ||
|
Garm
Norway222 Posts
Fuck you. | ||
|
Broxxi
Norway48 Posts
We don't know where the 80 to 84 count at Utøya was, but depending if it was 4 more found on land or 4 in the water it will be higher. Eyewitnesses from boats confirmed there was corpses in the water. So expect the number to go up. | ||
|
Laevateinn
Norway115 Posts
Get out. | ||
|
Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On July 23 2011 18:15 HwangjaeTerran wrote: Well the guy was probably just super frustrated, all the hate ideologies taking over the world. And with democracy you have no power to change things, so idealists like him are driven in to these senseless things. I've read a lot on many of the school shooters and people on killing spree and in many cases it's just frustration that strikes from their texts and actions. The killing is so random too.... This was the biggest killing spree by a invidual ever, more victims than that korean policeman got in the eighties. sad times Hate ideologies taking over the world? The only place hate ideologies were taking over was his head. Democracy gives us enough power, what people like that need is a mental institute. | ||
|
Ghad
Norway2551 Posts
Yeah go fuck yourself buddy. | ||
|
Broxxi
Norway48 Posts
| ||
| ||
